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  • @prrrpa1511
    @prrrpa1511 Год назад +193

    Damn we gotta give vata credit for following along Yunho's tutorial so well.

  • @vikzytoria
    @vikzytoria Год назад +293

    It made me super proud this week to hear how LOUD the arena exploded for Ateez when Say My Name began. It was the loudest crowd song of the night. Promising them to always have their backs.

  • @deijipark
    @deijipark 2 года назад +1592

    We have eyes, don't we. We also have minds. We can use both. Why do they treat us like idiots? Are we stupid? They must see themselves as the only intelligent one.. It's funny, isn't it?

  • @nanafullsun
    @nanafullsun Год назад +25

    not them wanting to shut down wooyoung cuz he's an idol.. he's a dancer too damnnnn

  • @maedariku03
    @maedariku03 Год назад +169

    what's annoying was the fact that Vata claimed that it was an original dance move created by him, but the fact that he is "friends" with San doesn't sit right, like how do you not know that dance move already existed when it's one of your friend's viral dance move.

  • @hobispreciouseusmile
    @hobispreciouseusmile 2 года назад +1734

    Eden unfollowed this person.....
    NICE!
    ATEEZ ONLY HAVE ATINYS AND KQ FAMILY

    • @ateezManiac
      @ateezManiac  2 года назад +68

      True dat

    • @wyldlyorah1238
      @wyldlyorah1238 2 года назад +33

      King

    • @curiositylikeacat8119
      @curiositylikeacat8119 Год назад +66

      atiny is a strongest fandom and we proved it by supporting our boys
      it's really bad they copy things so easily
      Ateez is a self producing group from small agency and they take it for granted

    • @hobispreciouseusmile
      @hobispreciouseusmile Год назад +8

      @@curiositylikeacat8119 true

    • @alexandra31882
      @alexandra31882 Год назад +26

      I am a new stay who recently discovered ATEEZ though kingdom.. who dare disrespect my babies’ bffs??! Do we need to throw hands or hide a body??

  • @PNuwus
    @PNuwus 2 года назад +965

    All those dancing videos that he used were totally different while vata used the exact timing to the dance of say my name 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @djinn5658
      @djinn5658 Год назад +90

      And that's the whole argument, isn't it? It's not just that he used a similar motion, similar beat, or the basic gross framework, he copied it down to the timing and fine motor movements

    • @SaucyMuffins
      @SaucyMuffins Год назад +23

      👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 He’s acting like people are THAT dumb and won’t notice.

    • @Chanifist
      @Chanifist Год назад +14

      Atleast theirs had a twist and their own flavor vata just copy and pasted

  • @kimjongunsjanitor4683
    @kimjongunsjanitor4683 2 года назад +839

    Delusion at its finest 😒. Plagiarizing ateez has become a trend and its the 5th time this year. These people don't let ateez and atinys live in peace.

    • @SOOLEEHAHMAY_85
      @SOOLEEHAHMAY_85 Год назад +44

      yes it is true and very tiring.
      if we get angry they say we are toxic fans. if we just sit quietly sad they will run rampant to continue imitating Ateez.

    • @msuakn
      @msuakn Год назад +2

      it’s a dance move?

    • @yunhosmile
      @yunhosmile Год назад +18

      ​@@msuakn it's actually a series of moves. It's easy to use similar moves. But when you put a series of different moves together exactly like another artist, in the same timing as that artist, it's theft. VATA stole the iconic "Say My Name" series of moves and ppl are actually defending him bc of their loyalty to him. It's disgusting.

    • @rachaelmolene
      @rachaelmolene Год назад

      ​@@Maysoon3121 lol ok

    • @Nonofyobusiness-ppl
      @Nonofyobusiness-ppl Год назад +2

      ​@@Maysoon3121no one said it's from them but it's a disrespect to the choreographer

  • @tonytonysannie
    @tonytonysannie 2 года назад +261

    I'm kind of speechless.. How is this even still an argument? Do they really think we are that blind?

  • @LadyRawkuzOne
    @LadyRawkuzOne Год назад +5

    I get it ATEEZ IS ART! so ppl will try to imitate but will never come close.

  • @everydaycrisday
    @everydaycrisday Год назад +153

    The stupidest part is the example video that 1Million posted, the moves are nothing like the move in question.

  • @exowerone.
    @exowerone. Год назад +13

    There’s a difference between similarities and full blown copying. He did it exactly like ateez’s choreography. Like it’s not even a resemblance it’s the EXACT SAME.

  • @ms_mozzy
    @ms_mozzy Год назад +61

    No need to tell me to respect both dancers coz I do. 🙏 Straight up when I saw Vata's choreo, Ateez popped in my head. It's a very distinct move. When I first saw it on Ateez MV, I had goosebumps and got me screaming. Sure basics carry across many choreo however there are injected subtleties which are a choreographer's stamp. No dancer can refute that. Personally didn't mind Vata doing the Ateez move but I am ignorant if Vata claimed it as his own. Whatever. Bottom line, it's the Ateez glide. I am no A-tiny but I'll recognize it again if I see it danced elsewhere. 👀 Sorry 😔 but I am on Team Woo on this one.

  • @familielechner2497
    @familielechner2497 10 месяцев назад +1

    Omg Yunho you cutiepie 😍😍😍

  • @FizaRoland
    @FizaRoland Год назад +4

    ATEEZ with their dopest choreographies, great choreographer, dang

  • @hafizhassan2266
    @hafizhassan2266 Год назад +2

    They : it's our routine dance
    Atiny : hahahhahahaha after saw say my name it's become routine dance

  • @stephanielemons2995
    @stephanielemons2995 Год назад +13

    I find it interesting that it was not spoken about until after Vata performed, but it seems that Vata and San were good friends. So much so that Vata had been to KQ and even filmed a Tik Tok with San. So to me it feels like Vata flat out used San. And if for nothing else, apologizing doesn't even come close to what Vata needs to do...

  • @tahia3773
    @tahia3773 Год назад +71

    I don't know alot about the situation but from the info I have gathered, if that guy who did the move had just accepted already that 'yes, I took inspiration/i did copy ateez' it would've just ended right there. Why do people have such big egos when it comes to admitting to their doings. No one told him to apologise, or make multiple explanations. All he had to do was admit it.
    People till date look down upon kpop artists and it just annoys the shit outta me. What more do they need to achieve for people to stop downplaying their hard work and efforts. Ateez are one of the most creative artists ever and such powerful dancers, is it that hard to just recognize them for what they are?

    • @yunhosmile
      @yunhosmile Год назад +2

      He can't say he got inspiration bc it's more than a move & he knows it. It's a series of moves put together exactly the same way, in the same timing and order as Ateez. He knows it's not inspiration. He knows his reputation is over if he admits it so he keeps denying and relying on the loyalty of others. Ateez and their choreographers worked really hard creating this series of moves.... just to be stolen & for VATA to be celebrated for his "creativity" & talent? It's wrong. He needs to be held accountable.

    • @yawnzeen
      @yawnzeen Год назад

      + the issue was there from the beginning, but raised up before SMF ended, literally near the final selection. So he can't just said "oh I did copy/got inspiration from them" so he made a not so good and a bit vague statement on instagram (don't get me wrong, i still hate his statement ㅠㅠ). I actually doesn't really care about this problem, I just wait for it to end, I didn'twant to be too biased. At first I also cursed Vata tho, because he is so damn silent about it (after New Things got aired on SMF). But as the time passed by, I noticed the detail on the moves was a bit different. What tamzin choi (kpop abeoji aka Choi YoungJun) means was probably about the footwork, Vata's look more like a moonwalk and the tempo was also different. But Gestalt principle always work so I get why this became an issue. Anyway, Choi Youngjun shouldn't have stepped out to help his friends, he kinda bring a bad impact to his crew lol.
      However it's also a pitty seeing Ateez didn't even reconsider to talk in private with Vata but rather immediately called him out in public, I was a bit worried that they would ended up messing with someone else's career. Even if Vata was wrong, that's not a good way to "punish" him. As both Ateez and Vata are artist, they should have known how difficult it was to get into their position. How difficult it is to life as a trainee under a new entertainment, and how difficult it is to dropped out from a good university to focus on dancing. Both should have a wise conversation to resolve this issue.

    • @enzanXcrystal
      @enzanXcrystal Год назад +1

      @@yawnzeen we don´t know if they had tried to solve it in private first or not. Maybe Wooyoung called him out because they had tried and Vata refused? It´s possible, with how Wooyoung had acted before

  • @lisa.222
    @lisa.222 Год назад +27

    I'm tired fsm. I understand everyone's perspective. But imma always ride for my babes ateez

  • @zeroseblooms
    @zeroseblooms Год назад +10

    Yes, dancing has been around for years & many moves have been similar but when something is quite specific as to what it is, it isn't hard to call out when someone tries to copy or claim it for their own.

  • @yoondami1127
    @yoondami1127 Год назад +1

    We know. Oh we know. #SAYMYNAME 🔥🔥

  • @IM_THE_CHARMER
    @IM_THE_CHARMER Год назад +13

    Everytime Atiny's try to show that we're a peaceful and loving fandom someone just has to do something to make us angry 😡
    WE NOT BLIND PEOPLE 😒😡

  • @atinysoul9054
    @atinysoul9054 Год назад +46

    Okay, if copying ICONIC step then calling it 'basic' isn't peak copycat behaviour then idk what else is.... And people are protecting them 🗿🗿... Disgusting

  • @happyhermit5280
    @happyhermit5280 Год назад +78

    They be acting like it's a common dance when it's a exact copy🤦‍♀️ good for wooyoung for calling the choreographer out

  • @regina_9769
    @regina_9769 2 года назад +438

    The disrespect towards Korean artists and dance moves they’ve actually made is unreal, Americans literally jump down their throats for using meaningful cultural things in their concepts but when it comes to something they use of theirs, they wanna act like we’re all the same people and it’s okay

    • @tonytonysannie
      @tonytonysannie 2 года назад +15

      Someone said it! Thank you! 👏

    • @yoshiii7212
      @yoshiii7212 Год назад +42

      The move was created by a non Korean choreographer that they worked with so ....

    • @yourlocalfiend5716
      @yourlocalfiend5716 Год назад

      @@yoshiii7212 oh was it? Proof.

    • @karina_kh
      @karina_kh Год назад +46

      @@yourlocalfiend5716 the proof can be found by simply googling who created the Ateez choreography for SMN and 3 names of American choreographers, who Ateez have worked with on multiple occasions, will pop up. Or here’s the link to a video with that dance posted on the official channel of the choreographer with all the credits in the description ruclips.net/video/VqHazh3HMik/видео.html

    • @sjohnso123
      @sjohnso123 Год назад +22

      @@yourlocalfiend5716 Yup True Most Of Their First Album & Debut Dances Were Choreographed By American Dancers. They Trained In L.A A Month Before Their Debut

  • @margarittrodriguez8143
    @margarittrodriguez8143 2 года назад +36

    ateez signature only .vata hopebu credit to anze don't ever be a boastful man

  • @devsan121
    @devsan121 Год назад +2

    They want to be them so bad it’s just sad 😔

  • @leriahslife341
    @leriahslife341 Год назад +1

    1 million dance studio is know for this, it’s not just ATEEZ they’re doing it to

    • @rachaelmolene
      @rachaelmolene Год назад +1

      The original choreographer Anze is a part of 1milliom dance studio and he himself said that that entire sequence was made for ATEEZ. Not just the gliding move. Bata did not just copy a move, he copied an entire sequence. That's the problem here.

  • @ateezatiny1180
    @ateezatiny1180 Год назад +2

    Hongjoong you are right

  • @lanasmith1420
    @lanasmith1420 Год назад +54

    We know the truth. Who has eyes, those people can see, that Vata's dance move is not just similar, it is absolutely identical with Ateez's. So we will say the name of Ateez, not Vata. He is disrespect, maybe he is ok danser, but not a good people. It's plagiarism, but he has no respect and no conscience to admit it 🤷🏼‍♀️ Atiny will always support our Ateez! ✊🏻

  • @silyi1184
    @silyi1184 2 года назад +36

    ATEEZ amazing kisses from Paraguay Sudamérica Atiny present.

  • @amisha1720
    @amisha1720 Год назад +2

    don't this people have shame as dancers calling themselves professional and playing victim card I STAND WITH ATEEZ

  • @ateezatiny1180
    @ateezatiny1180 Год назад +1

    Ateez the best all time

  • @sunitajain3183
    @sunitajain3183 Год назад

    ateez is the blueprint

  • @hyacein
    @hyacein Год назад +1

    the disrespect they have towards idol dancers are just infuriating

  • @SOOLEEHAHMAY_85
    @SOOLEEHAHMAY_85 Год назад +22

    We try to avoid debate, and mention that it looks similar and first say It's very similar to Ateez.. Then another says it doesn't even look like it and says again that Atiny is a fandom who gets offended by little things.
    Even when I write on tiktok.
    I say that's one of the reasons why so many people become Atiny because the song SAY MY NAME is so deep in my memory.
    Others said that I was too excited for such little things and said that I was too stupid not to understand what basic dancing is.
    So I was considered a fool for defending Ateez. I love their work and when they are insulted I feel sad not angry. But they said I was too weak to be sad. If I get angry they will say I'm a Toxic fan.
    How hard is it to like a quality artist? Will they turn a blind eye and ear if quality is defeated by popularity? I am surprised.
    I'm not a person who understands dance or music, I'm just an ordinary music lover. Don't say I'm exaggerating but it's just that I'm too tired to explain at length about my disappointment because WDB imitates Ateez and then a lot of people look down on Ateez.

  • @Papalapotato
    @Papalapotato Год назад +12

    Bruh the gliding car dance is literally a whole choreography, people with actual eyes can tell that! Stop being delusional

  • @silyi1184
    @silyi1184 2 года назад +19

    Respect ATEEZ Atiny present... Atiny grita basta ya.. Stop Copy kisses from Paraguay Sudamérica Atiny present.

  • @phoebeahn8941
    @phoebeahn8941 Год назад

    Vata forgot his citations

  • @8makes1team_0
    @8makes1team_0 Год назад

    There is a big difference between one arm movement being similar and all body movements being the same. We are not stupid. We can understand.

  • @sarahelvetral3710
    @sarahelvetral3710 Год назад +39

    I'm a dancer and I understand both sides. It's true that it's a common move but if ateez choreographers felt like it was their own trademark then I understand their reaction. In the dance community, this type of respect is very important. I know the choreographer of ateez is American and the guy who "copied" it on TV is Korean, which is why in the community people were speaking badly of Korean dancers and how they always copy America. But I don't think that's necessarily true either though. Maybe he just liked the move. Though I don't see why are fans bringing ateez into it since they're just performing this move in one of their song. It's not like they created it so if the guy really did biting on this move then it's a disrespect to the choreographer not to Ateez. I was glad Ateez showed support to their choreographer though by speaking out on the biting. It shows singers are starting to respect the dance community more and vice versa.

    • @flaggov6949
      @flaggov6949 Год назад +14

      Vata said he created the move when he clearly did not.

    • @SilverAlaunt
      @SilverAlaunt Год назад +8

      Wooyoung was the first to call it out if I recall. And that was only when people were asking them why they were doing the “new thing challenge” in their choreo. Choreo they’ve had for several years.
      The choreographers didn’t step in until Vata wanted to plead ignorance and not apologize. All they were asking for was credit to the original dancers/choreographers. Vata apparently felt that was too hard of an ask.

  • @robyn._.
    @robyn._. Год назад +2

    Personally, the only issue I have is Vata claiming that he created the move when its clearly been around before SMF. To all the people I've seen saying Ateez didn't create it either, I know but it's just that Ateez is the only group in KPop that I've seen use the gliding move and so it's valid to say that Ateez used it first within Kpop choreo and that was BEFORE Vata claimed to have created it.
    *The point being that the SMN glide is used as proof to expose Vata's lie in saying he created the move (within Korean media because realistically neither of them, Ateez or Vata, created it)*
    Justice for Ateez
    Edited: Dec 2nd if anyone decides to fight me

  • @harno97
    @harno97 Год назад +1

    If this is a huge case, we need to start talking from the kpop history.

  • @rinxu4737
    @rinxu4737 Год назад +6

    If u say inspired..I might say ok...but created it's like wth,.. I first saw the move after watching say my name.,.

  • @wangxianspirit
    @wangxianspirit Год назад +2

    When I saw this trend I saw exactly the similarity with Ateez song 'say my name' and I thought they would talk with their choreographers or at least give the credits to the group. It's a shame they're still pretending they're the original creators, I can't see this trend anymore without feeling disgusted.

  • @junniejunekim4548
    @junniejunekim4548 Год назад +2

    This is not likely to be forgotten.. people can forget but it is still written in the folds of ateez history ...History where a friend.. no no no a buch of 'friends' betrays a friendship.. that man And his friends can life normaly in they country but internasionaly they just a plagiarisme.. That fact cannot be erased.. atiny always gonna Remember it.

  • @ronahemara-wahanui2383
    @ronahemara-wahanui2383 Год назад +1

    People will cast shade on Kpop yet give 'no fu%#s' when it come to claiming a dance that even this Maori girl in New Zealand recognized straight away that it's the choreography Ateez used in 'Say My Name' attributed to Wooyong
    #Acknowledge_your_source
    #Imitation_is_the_greatest_form_of_flattery
    #1_millon_Vata_BITERS

  • @Blap15
    @Blap15 Год назад +5

    Not them being shameless about it
    I stopped supporting them after this, Ateez is the type of artists we need in the industry, ACTUAL artists and they get disrespected so much when they are one of the most respected artists
    Dont people feel no shame ??

  • @Luvlynxrome
    @Luvlynxrome Год назад +2

    If it was a group from one of the big three the fans or even casual listeners would go crazy on how their group was plagiarised (which is a good thing) but now those freaking fans are saying how this is (WHICH CLEARLY IS PLAGIARISM) a common move when its nothing like the ones shown at the start...make it make sense...y'all foul for not treating one of the most talented groups right 🥲

  • @mjmi7544
    @mjmi7544 Год назад

    Lo gracioso es que AZ tiene un fandom en su totalidad extranjera, no se dejan llevar tanto por los rumores como en Corea y los dejan ser "personas" :)

  • @alesonu
    @alesonu Год назад

    If it was one or two people claiming that the move looks similar, I could have understand but they are literally claiming that thousand of people are blind and idiots!! Do they really think we cannot see the similarity?? Or do they thing we are that unintelligent and gullible that they will gaslight us and we will be gaslighted 😒😒

  • @sooeunkim9945
    @sooeunkim9945 Год назад +27

    If it a common dance like what 1million had say... Then who the fuck else dance to that signature dance in this kpop industry??? I never seen someone dance this signature dance in 1million..
    #justiceforATEEZ #AteezAnzeownit

  • @anjukumari2621
    @anjukumari2621 Год назад +6

    I just don't understand what they want to prove man like atiny never do anything bad to others or say anything bad to others or other artists nor ateez ever do anything like that then what's others problem man i don't understand like it's a simple thing why they can't able to understand this that we don't care if u copied or not but why u said u created it when u didn't just tell the truth na why it's so hard to tell the truth when it's not for u to copy bro.

  • @ArmyTiny-nz8od
    @ArmyTiny-nz8od Год назад

    The traitor friend of San

  • @stefano-zj1vm
    @stefano-zj1vm Год назад +4

    I’m not even an atiny but this is just too much😤

  • @Spiderpunkrocks
    @Spiderpunkrocks Год назад +2

    The only thing that needs to be clear for most atiny tho is, ATEEZ THEMSELVES DID NOT CREATE THIS DANCE MOVE best you could argue is it's made for them by the choreographer. I'm speaking as a hardcore atiny during this era I watch every content ATEEZ related and I did stumble upon the original choreographer which I believe their name is Anze and has worked with ateez on their several songs as well, for example the wave choreography. Their statement about this situation is actually what I'm waiting for (if they hadn't already yet). It needs to be clear cause it's cringy seeing comments of people saying "stealing from ATEEZ" when it's not their choreography, it's astonishing the ammount of people who jumps in this conflict not knowing that detail

    • @AWansia
      @AWansia Год назад +3

      Isn't this dance partly owned by Ateez as it was created specifically for their song and bought by the company?
      The original choreographer Anze Scrube supported Ateez and said that the sequence was copied, and if you are inspired by someone the least you can do is give credits.
      It's exactly the same sequence: steps, hands position - one leads, the other on the hip; body - leaning back; head - to the side, not forward; direction and specific path of movement.
      Also Vata follows the original Say my name choreographers and knows Ateez personally. How likely is a coincidence?

  • @rae.elaine92
    @rae.elaine92 Год назад

    It is super hard to create a choreo with individual moves that no one has seen before- dance has always existed so something entirely new is difficult to produce. What you can do is acknowledge what inspired you (a motorcycle, really- if the move really was as basic as he said, why make this excuse?), give them credit. ALL dancers do this if asked. But the fact that he had the nerve to do the same pace/ path/ everything and say he didn't copy anything- nah, that's where I have a problem.

  • @Shrekteez
    @Shrekteez Год назад

    Lol the painfully obvious copy. It wasn't even a single pose or dance move, it was a WHOLE sequence and yet he thought no would notice.

  • @tellmeaboutit2328
    @tellmeaboutit2328 Год назад

    "Simple and basic move" and proceeds to copy the main killing part of the choreo like

  • @deeuphrosyne
    @deeuphrosyne Год назад +2

    I’m so disappointed with 1Million, I really like to watch them since I was in high school, but how can they use different dance move as an example? And that dancer who still disregarded Idol, I think 4th generation idols now already do their best and do all that crazy, hard, and tiring performance to prove themselves as a performer and artist, what’s wrong with idol doing ‘biting’?! It’s his group choreo and he proud of it.

  • @j.m251
    @j.m251 Год назад

    They do look alike…those are the same moves really

  • @Frofg-j4b
    @Frofg-j4b Год назад

    Credits to vata fot following allong with yunho so well💀

  • @urwnrwl5396
    @urwnrwl5396 Год назад

    If ATEEZ’s choreographers themselves are speaking out that’s enough to know that it was copied 😭

  • @remmywale6671
    @remmywale6671 Год назад +3

    I'm not a dancer so I don't know but dont you think the footwork thingy looks like front ward moonwalk?

  • @aqua.-6782
    @aqua.-6782 Год назад

    Entre más intentan justificar que no es una copia más en evidencia se dejan. Parte de ser artista es saber reconocer tus errores. The more they try to justify it, the more obvious it is. Part of be a artist is accept your mistakes and Vata is copying of ATEEZ, they try but is obvious.

  • @alyssabeagley1703
    @alyssabeagley1703 Год назад +2

    The beginning dance moves I see the difference between the slide walk or whatever it's called but the move that's being accused for copying Ateez is the exact same, I don't see the difference like I do with the moves at the start of the video. There is a differ3nce between similarities and copying the exact move claiming its yours first.

  • @teidiana
    @teidiana Год назад

    i literally hate other artists copying kq's work just because they are a small company :/

  • @TheCandygirl93
    @TheCandygirl93 Год назад

    The 1st person I saw do that was MJ

    • @Ansi_Rev
      @Ansi_Rev Год назад +2

      No one has ever argued with the original dance moves, from which any version of the choreography is created. But the sequences of movements for each choreographer always differ in details, the problem is that these 2 are exactly the same.

    • @ateezManiac
      @ateezManiac  Год назад +4

      Exactly 💯 well said

  • @laughimfunny7928
    @laughimfunny7928 Год назад +1

    When will these people realize that they don’t have to get cancelled by the planet if they give credit

  • @sanyangi
    @sanyangi Год назад +1

    Seeing this after Ateez got plagiarized again😭😭😭😭😭

  • @kimimarakianda3157
    @kimimarakianda3157 Год назад +1

    We're not stupid, you're for trying so hard to show what is clear...

  • @Enhypenbiassunghoon
    @Enhypenbiassunghoon 6 месяцев назад

    If he wanted to have that move at least give credit instead of claiming I made the move is annoying that people choose to be sides with vata and think is not wrong like dude look at how it is the same

  • @totallyawkwardrandomstream3948
    @totallyawkwardrandomstream3948 Год назад +6

    Bruh those videos were similar but vata copied the exact choreo

  • @meee8612
    @meee8612 Год назад

    Let's be honest if this was BTS they wouldn't be like this ....but since it's ateez they say stuff like ateez are being dramatic 🧍‍♀️

  • @kpopanimefan6557
    @kpopanimefan6557 Год назад +2

    Can someone tell me what happened I am kinda new in K-pop 😅?

    • @sim_dtch
      @sim_dtch Год назад +3

      So ateez has this song called say my name in which this is the main move. And in the korean variety show called Street man fighter, vata(1 of the dancers) added this step to his challenge. So people have come out in support of and against him for allegedly plagiarising the move from ateez(incl 1 of the mems of the group as well as the main choreographers of the say my name choreo). Tbvh(I hope I don't get hate for this), but I find that particular move to be common and it could just have struck him to use that sort of moonwalk move to fit the music, and don't think it's that big of a deal. But like me, other people do have the right to form their opinions and disagree w me, like wooyoung from ateez who did the biting sign which represents plagiarism in the dance scene.

    • @kpopanimefan6557
      @kpopanimefan6557 Год назад +1

      @@sim_dtch Ouu thank you so much ♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @yuki.04
    @yuki.04 Год назад

    Bro these days the slide point dance isnt done during challenges, even in china they're trying not to do that particular move. All these people all over from the world understand and they act like the world revolves around them.

  • @user-gv7px1dt9g
    @user-gv7px1dt9g Год назад

    he was reaching with that evidence and it’s embarrassing

  • @pratibhasingh1505
    @pratibhasingh1505 Год назад

    They must have thought that ateez is not as popular as the other groups like blackpink and others and ateez fandom is not as big so we won't be able to know or do anything about the fact that he copied

  • @loveworld3401
    @loveworld3401 Год назад

    whats the name of the songggggggg

  • @rufydatasnur4204
    @rufydatasnur4204 Год назад

    I agree with the dancer .

  • @jaehyperth
    @jaehyperth Год назад

    I honestly don't understand like I don't think there is explaining to do here.

  • @darshanaverma7726
    @darshanaverma7726 Год назад

    I don't get why but it really doesn't seems common to me??
    Seriously how can they just copy and not apolozise
    So damn disappointed

  • @asilaman
    @asilaman Год назад

    This is so bad how many times is ateez plagiarized I saw another short there it was Abt music production they copied the chorus as it is literally what's the company how long can atinys protect ateez I know forever but actions should be taken

  • @pradyotkumarbanerjee5675
    @pradyotkumarbanerjee5675 7 месяцев назад

    Its not similar but its like copy paste some dared to call ateez copycats like wtf their song released before smf

  • @alynn95
    @alynn95 Год назад

    a rapper just copies ateez mvs

  • @msuakn
    @msuakn Год назад

    it’s a dance move? isn’t choreography just made with pre made moves?

    • @AWansia
      @AWansia Год назад

      Yes, all choreographies in this style are made on basic moves, but it's always differ in details for each choregrapher. This is exactly the same sequence: steps, hands position - one leads, the other on the hip; body - leaning back; head - to the side, not forward; direction and specific path of movement. No one has found exactly the same.
      The original choreographer Anze Scrube supported Ateez and said that the sequence was copied, and if you are inspired by someone the least you can do is give credits.
      Also Vata follows the original Say my name choreographers and knows Ateez personally. How likely is a coincidence?

  • @yunhosmile
    @yunhosmile Год назад +2

    🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
    Ateez has been plagiarized 5 or 6 times now. When will it end?

  • @Vixenallure365
    @Vixenallure365 Год назад

    It’s not plagiarism if you do it better kids. 🤣

  • @sunitajain3183
    @sunitajain3183 Год назад

    if u have eyes and brain u can see how exactly vata copied ateez while the other moves were so diff.
    this is not tge first time ateez got plagiarised
    stop copying ateez!!!!

  • @210292S
    @210292S Год назад +1

    What's up with all you non dancers getting worked up. Every dance move has been inspired by previous versions. Nobody claims dance moves.

    • @AWansia
      @AWansia Год назад

      Nobody claims basic moves created a long time ago. But all dances in this style always differ in details for each choreographer. Here is exactly the same sequence: steps, hands position - one leads, the other on the hip; body - leaning back; head - to the side, not forward; direction and specific path of movement. No one has found exactly the same.
      The original choreographer Anze Scrube supported Ateez and said that the sequence was copied, and if you are inspired by someone the least you can do is give credits.
      Also Vata follows the original Say my name choreographers and knows Ateez personally. How likely is a coincidence?

    • @daisie4505
      @daisie4505 Год назад

      Vata has made varying statements that really riled people up because he was super rude about the situation and fans also found out Vata knows ateez so people were even more annoyed, not really that he "copied" the move but refused to say he took inspiration, trying to claim it as his own

  • @abinaya7900
    @abinaya7900 Год назад

    From a neutral POV i think vata has a point since there are so many dance moves that are common and suddenly become trendy and overused, so i think this is one of those scenarios.. plus what do the fans expect him to do, apologise and/or give credits? And what about all these TikTok challenges which are literally trendy moves copied off of many content creators of dance.. Atinys please show me your reason on why this is not accepted

    • @flaggov6949
      @flaggov6949 Год назад +2

      The original choreographer was part of Anze's crew which created this sequence for ATEEZ's Say My Name choreo late in 2018. Three years later, Vata submitted this for an original choreo challenge on SMF. He very clearly did not create it. Then he used it for the New Things dance challenge which resulted in comments under ATEEZ's performances asking why ATEEZ was doing the New Things dance challenge in their stages. BTW, Anze explained the creation of this move on Steezy's channel earlier in the year (before the SMF episode) and came out during this controversy and said that Vata had copied the sequence.

    • @daisie4505
      @daisie4505 Год назад +1

      That's actually exactly what fans want, they just wanted him to give credit where it was due, what really stirred the pot tho was his statements made about the situation which were rude for no reason and fans finding out he is friends with ateez themselves which makes people skeptical that it was a coincidence

  • @-.-9762
    @-.-9762 Год назад

    it is a common dance though

    • @ateezManiac
      @ateezManiac  Год назад +5

      It's not. The Original choreographer Anze skrube have given a statement about it! Check it out
      Even if it's a move, you can't make some else's dance challenge as your dance challenge without even giving credit lol

  • @thankmelaterguys
    @thankmelaterguys Год назад +2

    Ateez and atiny took it too far.... Simple movements can never be yours

    • @flaggov6949
      @flaggov6949 Год назад +1

      The original choreographer said Vata copied the sequence.

    • @thankmelaterguys
      @thankmelaterguys Год назад

      @@flaggov6949 simple body movements cant be yours only

    • @flaggov6949
      @flaggov6949 Год назад +1

      @@thankmelaterguys Anze Skrube is a professional choreographer and dance instructor for the most well known dance studio in the United States and arguably the world (Millennium Dance Complex). He has a lot more knowledge about whether this is a unique dance sequence or "simple moves" than you do.

    • @ateezManiac
      @ateezManiac  Год назад +1

      Hi, please have some research before throwing opinions randomly

    • @thankmelaterguys
      @thankmelaterguys Год назад

      @@flaggov6949 lets be real here
      It cant be regarded as copying or plagiarism.
      Fangirl mentality should disappear from this world
      Idc what you feel or think.

  • @smomzly
    @smomzly Год назад

    Are we gonna see posts about this for the whole of eternity? Old news

  • @QuirkyBoy
    @QuirkyBoy Год назад

    They wanna get plagiarized so bad 😭😭😭😭🤡🤡😭🤡😭🤡😭🤡😭🤡😭🤡

    • @AWansia
      @AWansia Год назад +5

      Ateez just didn't like the insults and accusations of copying this New thing challenge after their Say my name performances. Then they decided to show "biting" sign to all accusers, and the situation reversed.😂

    • @QuirkyBoy
      @QuirkyBoy Год назад

      @@AWansia ateez didn't created the Movement they BUY it
      And its a basic MOVEMENT 🤣 everybody can do/create it without copying 🤡🤡🤡
      Atezz acl like they own stuff which is petty 🤪🤣🤣🤪🤣🤪🤣🤪🤣🤪🤣🤪🤣

    • @AWansia
      @AWansia Год назад +6

      @@QuirkyBoy Yes, all choreographies in this style made on basic moves, but it's always differ in details for each choreographer. It's exactly the same sequence: steps; hands position - one leads, the other on the hip; body - leaning back; head - to the side, not forward; direction and specific path of movement.
      The original choreographer Anze Scrube supported Ateez and said that "the sequence was copied, and if you are inspired by someone the least you can do is give credits".
      Also Vata follows the original Say my name choreographers and knows Ateez personally. Coincidence?

    • @Shrekteez
      @Shrekteez Год назад +3

      ​@@QuirkyBoy Laughable logic. I GUESS VATA IS ALSO A CLOWN BECAUSE HE ALSO CLAIMED THE DANCE MOVE AND EVEN SAID "HIS THOUGHT PROCESS" OF HOW HE "created" the dance move. He just played himself there. 😭🤡

  • @aaronthapa4588
    @aaronthapa4588 Год назад

    Whats the song