@@commonsenseapproach101 You can't argue with success. Maybe one or two championships come because of good luck, but you can't be a horrible player and have seventeen.
Exactly. Need to be 3 betting from the sb there w/ QJos ( if you chose to play). The opener will 4 bet with his premiums and you can easily let it go and save all those chips. ICM basics, I’m sure he’s learned his lesson.
It potentially was. If he shoves preflop and gets McKeehen to fold, who knows what could have happened after. Poker is full of surprises, and we hear stories all the time about a player spinning their small stack up and going on to win the tournament.
@JazzYachtrocker NOT true. You CANNOT win a tournament without getting lucky at least twice. Doesn't matter who you are, there will ALWAYS be a hand where you get it in good and have to hold, and a hand where you get it in bad and suck out.
Yes, he could have went all in pre, with A4 and possibly got the fold. But he was extremely lucky to win a lot of preflop races. And to have the Ks hold up.
He would’ve got the fold from J-3 McKeehen has the chips to lean on everyone every hand and w 800k invested he folds to a 3bet shove of just about 4m more that could’ve cut his stack in half and double upped one of (if not) the strongest player at the table. He def won his share of races you’re right I feel like you’re gonna have to have st least 3 or 4 lucky spots,win a lot flips and have the deck hit you to win the Main
Sometimes when it’s your time it’s your time! McKeehan played like a beast and ran like god. The poker gods work in weird and funny ways. Thanks for the video!
No, the QJ hand and that final hand were both really big blunders. He should have folded the QJ hand preflop, and he should have shoved with the A4. Very unlikely McKeehan would have called his all in.
He didnt play small ball w/ JQ and A4. He shouldve folded on the turn or river w/ JQ and shoved pre w/ A4. He couldve call w/ A4 if he had more than 40bb and played sb post flop. as great a player as he is, JQ and A4 were played suboptimal.
I wouldn't call that a mistake. It was a calculated risk that almost paid off. I'm not sure I would take a flop against a guy running as hot as Joe was, but I'm not half the player Daniel is so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Great video, thanks! I have a wish though, if you could please turn the music down a smidge during big hands so we can clearly hear the table talk. Otherwise great video 👍
i've played a fair bit of "small ball" - especially back 10-15 years ago. Comes with the risk of letting your opponents catch up and takes solid live reading skills (which dnegs has in spades.) but its a profitable strategy if you can avoid making errors that cost you big. Some errors are ok, and if playing small ball, those errors cost you, small. When hands gain momentum, and the opponent ends up with the better showdown value, it feels like you've made a mistake, which is not wrong, but not right either.
It is generally not correct to make statements about counting other people's money. I believe that only Daniel can say how much he lost or how much he earned. Good video. I hope that the author will draw conclusions for himself and in the future there will be only high-quality content with a correct description, and this will not only increase views, but will also inspire respect for the author. All the best and prosperity!
Getting super lucky right before the bubble usually is a must bc you’ll have people who will fire 5-10x buy ins and the bubble will be full of min stacks. Getting lucky goes wo saying but if you can get past that bubble with a good stack you can really start to see the field fall fast bc and level off. As long as you have 5x I think you are doing fine but people usually get satisfied with bubble pop so play all the way down to best start hands and don’t just punt bc 5x goes to 35x goes to 100x and then your arrested for public intoxication with zero regret!
These tournaments are basically an expensive version of "all in or fold". Sure, they nibble for awhile, and then go all in. To win such a tournament, you don't have to be a good poker player. You simply need to sun run. It is very rare to see anyone bluffing to cause someone with stronger cards to fold.
I consider myself an amateur and I would have pushed all-in with any A as the short stack. So I'm not second guessing Danny, Its just that's what I would have done. McKeehen probably would have called anyway and the results would have been the same. However, if Danny pushed all-in preflop, perhaps McKeehen would have folded because it wasn't an amateur pushing all-in preflop.
Its a great compilation of Daniel's play in this event, but you don't point out the mistake, was it in JQ v KK? Or in the final hand? And if the final hand its hardly an $8m mistake as winning the pot with a pre-flop shove still has Daniel as one of the short stacks.
Thanks for watching. You may have missed it, but I did point out the mistake. In the video I talk about how his decision to not shove preflop with A4 was the mistake that led to his elimination. If he shoves preflop, I strongly believe McKeehen would have folded.
Dan thought he was the Man with winning Aces , but cards are cards he took the chance , I think he didn’t take enough time to think things out . Oh well there will be other games . Great entertainment 👍👍👍👍🍺🍺🍺
A4 is an all-in or fold at that point and he would be the first to admit it. It did not matter who he was playing in the hand, being short stack, he could not pass too many opportunity to go in.
I would have mucked the A4o. You’re dominated by almost every other ace, unless the flop comes 2,3,5 rainbow or 4,4 x you likely won’t have the best hand. Jamming pre might have been the way to go but it’s so easy to be dominated there. If you get to the flop yes you hit your ace but you could easily be shoving into a bigger ace. If the other player has just diamonds the still are about 36% to win. KT would just have flopped 2 pair so you’re dead in that scenario. All in all I obviously wasn’t there so my opinion doesn’t matter but I would have mocked the A4 and waited for a better spot.
I don't agree he should have pushed pre flop. Joe was dominating the table woth his chip stack. When that happens your a4 vs him looks to be strong. You don't call on pre flop woth a 4. A4 is a strong hand 5 handed especially when blinds are high. I play to win and push odds. Theres a lot of players who will grind there stacks down and play tight for me I don't do that. I go for it.
With the Ace of diamonds in his hand, he blocks many of the flushes his opponent can have. If he didn't have the Ace of diamonds I think he would probably just call.
If skill had anything to do with it Daniel would of won. Both his pocket cards were higher than Mckennon pocket cards, the flop, the turn, the river were all by chance or luck
I agree that as a shortstack Daniel had to make a decision preflop all in or fold based of his feeling about Joe's hand strenght. But when he called he had no other choice when A hit the board. Someone said before that was only the end QJ hand was the one which decided the outcome, even if Daniel won this one still he would have little chance against chip leader.
So he lost a flip and that is a mistake? Sure, A4o could shove preflop and win, but on the other hand, that would not have confirmed him the first place, not even nearly. To get there he needs to double up sooner or later. I bet his strategy was to play a lot of pots and use the skill edge he has, of course we can argue if he should have changed it when stack is so shallow already, but calling this 8 million dollar mistake is obviously hyperbolic to the extreme.
A4 off is NOT a goo preflop all in with that many in the table still, he has at least 9 hands to get some better, but if he is going to go with it, ALWAY go all in with the Ace, never limp it being low(he wasn't THAT low yet), I would of dumped it in that position.
I don't even have 1/1000th the talent that Dnegs has for reading people...but WHY did he have to play so many hands when he was up...Too bad he didn't pick better spots(Easy for me to say).
I think he was getting frustrated with McKeehan. He felt like McKeehan was running over the table and decided to take a stand. But luck just wasn't on his side that day.
It’s tough too say about Daniel’s pre flop play because although A-4 is ahead of button raises in most cases daniel would be a coin flip if they got it all in with other ranges the button would be raising with but let’s take it for what it is in this situation although a small favorite in most situations Daniel had enough of a chip stack too apply pressure back to the big stack I think it might actually be a shove it’s close but a shove is the superior play
I appreciate your detailed breakdown of the hand - always good to learn from different perspectives. You pointed out a key factor - "applying pressure to the big stack". McKeehen wants to maintain his chip lead going into the FT. Therefore he does not want to take high variance spots like this one. Great point!
Commentators are usually pretty knowledgeable, but in this case I have to disagree. It was bad luck and not a mistake - at least, not THAT one; the QJ hand was more the mistake - that did Daniel in, because I think the chip leader calls him even if he does move pre-flop.
Lol, what a ridiculous premise for a video. Its not an 8 Million dollar mistake if there are still 10 other players. He was even extremely below the average stack being at 17.5 millio and Daniel having a stack of about 8 million. (Assuming he goes all in pre flop and Gets the fold) 15:06 But even if, number one got 7.6 million - 0.5 Million Daniël got is 7.1 million at best.
@@RoyalFlushMediaCompany don't feel sorry, either say yes you are right that's a good point I agree. Or say no I disagree I stand by my title. Props on you for listening to a critique and responding to people. And adjusting the title. Better title.
IMO I don’t think my title was click bait but putting myself in the shoes of my viewers, I can understand how it might seem that way. It’s never my intention to use click bait to get people to watch my videos. My goal is to share my passion for poker and make high quality content for people to enjoy.
A4 is a pure shove pre. To try and play postflop with that hand, out of position and short stack against a guy who who will put pressure on you is ridiculous
If a mistake was made(IF a mistake was actually made), it was not post flop….It happened pre flop.I believe with his chip count, he should of shoved all in.That is just my opinion, i am not saying it is the correct move.I believe that opponents hand was foldable even with his large stack. Just wondering, did anyone ever ask opponent if he would of folded or call the “ all in” pre flop.? Either way, playing the hand like Daniel did , i don’t think it was wrong, just shitty river luck. Easy for judging after the fact.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the hand! I don't think McKeehen has ever stated publicly if he would have folded, but I think a player as good as him would have recognized that calling with J3 would have been a bad call.
If he doubles up there, he would have a little over 30 big blinds. And given that he was the best player remaining in the field, he would have been in great contention to win.
He got his money in good 56% played the hand perfect. His reading ability is world class so going with his read even with the qj v kk is the right play because on the long run his reads are usually correct. Mcheon just had the perfect flop vs his opponents over and over.@RoyalFlushMediaCompany
Negranu totally messed up not shoving preflop a 4 doesnt play strong post flop. Very very bad play. He would have picked up the million pre flop and lived to fight another day. I wonder what would have happened if he won that hand at the end how far he would have made it?
DNEG lost his stack because he refuses to fold when beaten......sure he made some amazing folds and calls, but I am 1000% certain that he would have had many more bracelets and wins if he folded when losing the hand
No, I spent a week researching and writing the script myself. I used a voiceover artist to narrate the story. What do you think? Does any the script or voiceover need improvement?
Dude is negative 100s of millions of dollars when it comes to actually PLAYING poker in his career... If it wasn't for his sponsorships (PokerStars) and his new sponsorship to (GG) he would be broke lol
Yeah it looks like he just ran into a guy that was running super hot. It really stinks, but poker still has luck (or randomness) involved at the end of the day.
First of all, after playing casino poker for 40 years (when I started, 7-card stud was actually the premiere game being spread everywhere in Nevada), let's see.....how can I sum it up? Poker is bullshit. Hmmmmmm.......... Yeah, that looks about right.
Not on a regular basis in casinos anymore. Back in the late 80's-early 90's, I sat around in limit stud games for 6 years. Then I finally gradually started playing less and less. I played long enough to get a couple of royal flush prizes, and to be seated at tables where 4-of-a-kind bad beats occurred a few times (meaning I got a chunk of the prize a few times; I never held the winning or losing hand in such cases, though). The most amazing thing I ever saw in a 7-stud game at a casino was a straight flush getting beat by a royal. But what was even more amazing about the hand was that one player held the 4 thru 8 of diamonds, and the winner of the hand held not 5, but 6 straight flush cards (including the royal flush) IN THE SAME SUIT that the loser's straight flush was in! The winner held the 9 thru Ace of diamonds. (Six consecutive staright flush diamonds--against the other player's lower straight flush in the same suit!) On my grandma's eyeballs, I was seated at the table when it happened (and I got a piece of the bad beat) back around 1990 at Harrah's Tahoe poker room at Stateline, Nevada in Lake Tahoe. (I don't think Harrah's Tahoe even still has a poker room anymore--but they did for years.) By the way, the winner of that hand won both a decent chunk of the bad beat prize for holding the winning hand (the loser got the lion's share), PLUS the prize for getting a royal. Two house jackpots in one hand. What were the odds of this incredible, phenomenonal hand playing out exactly the way that it did, and the two players getting dealt those cards, I wonder? Another time, I was dealt 8 clubs in a 7-card stud game (yes, you heard that right; I got dealt 8 cards in a 7-card stud game, and they were ALL CLUBS), including a straight flush that got taken away from me about 10 seconds after I got dealt the 5th card that made the straight flush. Yeah, I know, I just said a mouthful. You just about gotta take a deep breath, and let that all sink in for a minute....... I ended up winning the hand with just a regular flush, anyway. EXPLANATION: What happened was, in a 7-stud game, I've got three clubs rolled up on 3rd street, so I'm in. Let's go. Lets' make this flush. 4th street comes a club, so now I'm almost definitely going all the way to 7th street to see what happens. I make my flush on 5th street , and there's still myself and three other players in the pot! It doesn't look to me like anyone else has shit, and now, I've got three clubs showing face-up on the board. Everyone checks to that. I bet showing strength, and everyone else slows down. One guy drops out. The other two just call. I'm in the first position to the dealer's left, by the way, so when he deals, I get the first card, then everyone else gets their cards in succession. I'm thinking of a card (I think it was the 5 of clubs), and on 6th street, the dealer gives it to me! I couldn't believe it! I now have a straight flush! I can't lose!! But the dealer in his haste to deal 6th street made a critical mistake, and dealt an upcard to the guy who was in second position right after me, but who folded on 5th street, plus he deals a card to the other two guys who are still in. FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!! Someone says "MISDEAL!", but then the dealer says "No, we don't have to declare a misdeal and give everyone back their money on this hand. All I have to do is take back the four upcards that I just dealt for 6th street, put them back in the deck, reshuffle the cards that are left in the deck, and then cut the cards, and then re-deal you three players that are still in the hand another 6th street upcard. Remember, this was 7-card stud--so streets 3 thru 6 are all upcards, so the dealer knew EXACTLY which cards he first dealt on 6th street, which was why he could do what he did, and just take back all the 6th street upcards that he first dealt, and give the players who were still in the hand NEW cards for 6th street. So, the Lord gaveth, and then the devil poked me right in the ass all within seconds, as I watched in agony as the dealer took back that five of clubs, along with the other player's 6th street cards, mixed the cards up all facedown on the table, then arranged them all in a thin deck, shuffled, cut and dealt a new and different upcard to the 3 remaining players. (What was I gonna do, bitch about it? I wonder how many players would have stuck around in the hand if I had done that.) I just sat there in disbelief with my stomach up in my throat when the dealer took back the 5 of clubs. By the way, I am the only player who actually received the card that he was supposed to receive on 6th street THE FIRST TIME. It was only the other two guys in the hand who would have received different cards if the dealer hadn't made his mistake, since the error occurred in a position that came AFTER I received my 6th street card--all of which only added to my utter frustration when my straight flush card got confiscated, nullifying the strength of my hand, and making it just a regular flush again. I couldn't freakin' believe it! Of all the motherfreakin' times for some stinking bizarre bullshit to happen which takes away a card that I rightfully got dealt! I was literally in shock. So. mind you, I've now already been dealt 6 clubs in this hand. But now 6th street gets taken away, and redealt. It's another club. But this time, it's the 8 of clubs, so no straight flush. We're just adding what is now a pretty insignificant overkill card to what was already a regular flush. But I have indeed now been dealt 7 cards--all clubs--in this hand, and so far, I've been allowed to keep 6 of them. The strength of my hand is pretty transparent at this point, showing all puppy feet (clubs) as upcards, so I bet and another guy drops out, and one guy still calls. Here comes 7th street, down and dirty. It's the Queen of clubs. I'm holding 7 cards, all the same suit, after getting dealt 8 clubs in the hand, and at one brief moment, having what would have been a straight flush, which promptly got removed by the dealer. When he saw what I had, he said "Well, you wouldn't have won any more money (with the straight flush), anyway."--which was true. I won handily with the regular flush. My opponent at showdown couldn't even come close to beating it--but still, come on. It's just the principle of the thing. You just don't take away a man's glory when he finally gets that straight flush that he's been playing thousands of hands for since the last time he got one. Why does the most bizarre shit happen at such critical moments when it makes THAT kind of difference, and then no such preposterous circumstance happens again for the next ten thousand hands, when it DOESN'T make that kind of a difference? WHY?? I wanna know!! On yet another occasion, I got dealt all paints in a 7-stud game; 3 kings, 2 Queens, and 2 Jacks. That only ever happened to me one time in all the years I played 7-stud. I wonder what the odds were on that. I also only ever made a four-of-a-kind IN THE FIRST FOUR Cards I got dealt in 7-stud ONCE. Just once! One thing I always loved about the game was turning over your two hole cards on 3rd St. to see that you're rolled up, and that you already have 3-of-a-kind. Of course you want to see that 4th card hit--and how sweet it'll be if it's the very next card. It WAS once for me, at Boomtown near Reno, back when they spread 7-stud. It never happened again like that in all the times I got rolled up with trips. Let's face it, you're very lucky to make quads on ANY street when you're rolled up with trips, let alone to hit it on 4th street. But you just about piss your pants when it actually happens.......
Phones, sun glasses, pc of any kind and eating at or around the table should be all be banned . Phil h swearing as well he never so much as a warning, we all serar yes, but 30 times in row? In one hand ? ..
Players will lose their minds if you ban phones at the tables 😂 But I completely agree. I would also add "any and all types of face coverings" to that list. Players nowadays are coming to the table looking like Kenny from South Park ...SMH 😂
True, luck win in short term, and between two skilled players luck surely matter, no doubt.... Also I can beat Daniel with luck if we play just one hand, but if I play 1000 hands I guarantee I will be beat, because his skill outperform my luck in long run
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Phil Helmuth has 17 bracelets. 17. Let that sink in. Next person down on that list has 10. Most of the all-time greats have 2 or 3.
I've played with HOFers who haven't got ten, but do have more than two or three.
I have zero respect for PH, horrible poker player actually. Very poor person as well.
@@commonsenseapproach101 You can't argue with success. Maybe one or two championships come because of good luck, but you can't be a horrible player and have seventeen.
How is it he has 17 bracelets yet there's not a single video on RUclips of him winning a hand?
@@MewtwoStruckBack Lemme get back to you on that.
Clearly the QJ against KK hand broke him
Yes that was another hand where I think he made a mistake. I believe he should have folded that preflop versus the chip leader.
Exactly. Need to be 3 betting from the sb there w/ QJos ( if you chose to play). The opener will 4 bet with his premiums and you can easily let it go and save all those chips. ICM basics, I’m sure he’s learned his lesson.
Yeah and he called it, he knew he was running hot
it was not an 8 million dollar mistake, if he wanted to win he would have had to flip sooner or later.
It potentially was. If he shoves preflop and gets McKeehen to fold, who knows what could have happened after. Poker is full of surprises, and we hear stories all the time about a player spinning their small stack up and going on to win the tournament.
@@RoyalFlushMediaCompany then why you do put title "wich cost him 8 milions" you implied that it did like he would won that
ya he at 11 place long way for that 1st place
@RoyalFlushMediaCompany as you say " who knows what would have happened" so to say it was an 8 million dollar mistake is a massive assumption
That literally makes no sense
Daniel should've avoided getting into hands with the chip leader. The Jack Queen hand did him in. Never fall in love with top pair.
i don’t remember a JT hand
100% agreed. But I think you mean the QJ hand.
Yeah - but Mckeehan was running over the table w the big stack. Was making plays without having it. Wasn’t a foolish call, IMO
100% . Sometimes people just run hot and you have to respect that.
@@RoyalFlushMediaCompany yeah, he said the same thing you just did, just with the cards in a different order...rofl...
Nothing against McKeehen, but it did bother the hell out of me how lucky he was in that tournament. ggs
Agreed but luck plays a huge role in who wins. Greg Merson is the perfect example of being a lucky winner.
Luck has a little to do with who wins
@JazzYachtrocker NOT true. You CANNOT win a tournament without getting lucky at least twice. Doesn't matter who you are, there will ALWAYS be a hand where you get it in good and have to hold, and a hand where you get it in bad and suck out.
Oooops. Sorry, did not see that you said a little luck.
@@WinterBorn61 lol chill bro
That last hand can't be considered a mistake (in my opinion).
That's a mistake, coz flush chance is there on flop
Yes, he could have went all in pre, with A4 and possibly got the fold. But he was extremely lucky to win a lot of preflop races. And to have the Ks hold up.
Yes those hands we're critical. Especially the one versus Hellmuth. If you don't win your flips, then you won't win the tournament.
Yes the best play is clearly to rip it pre , but considering this is last 2 tables in the Main , I can see why he just called
He would’ve got the fold from J-3 McKeehen has the chips to lean on everyone every hand and w 800k invested he folds to a 3bet shove of just about 4m more that could’ve cut his stack in half and double upped one of (if not) the strongest player at the table. He def won his share of races you’re right I feel like you’re gonna have to have st least 3 or 4 lucky spots,win a lot flips and have the deck hit you to win the Main
I love Daniel and couldn’t finish watching👀❤
Sometimes when it’s your time it’s your time! McKeehan played like a beast and ran like god. The poker gods work in weird and funny ways. Thanks for the video!
Daniel’s small ball approach taught him to do exactly what he did and I’m sure he would do again in the same spot. You can be results oriented…
No, the QJ hand and that final hand were both really big blunders. He should have folded the QJ hand preflop, and he should have shoved with the A4. Very unlikely McKeehan would have called his all in.
@@okiepokertraveler1718 100% agreed
He didnt play small ball w/ JQ and A4. He shouldve folded on the turn or river w/ JQ and shoved pre w/ A4. He couldve call w/ A4 if he had more than 40bb and played sb post flop. as great a player as he is, JQ and A4 were played suboptimal.
I think he should have folded QJ preflop but I think he was getting tired of McKeehen running over the table and decided to take a stand.
I wouldn't call that a mistake. It was a calculated risk that almost paid off. I'm not sure I would take a flop against a guy running as hot as Joe was, but I'm not half the player Daniel is so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Great video, thanks! I have a wish though, if you could please turn the music down a smidge during big hands so we can clearly hear the table talk. Otherwise great video 👍
Will do! Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it.
Fantastic video! Great work!
Thank you for watching! 😎
At 5:59 Daniel look 👀 was the whole video 😂😂
😂😂 What do you think he was thinking in that moment?
i've played a fair bit of "small ball" - especially back 10-15 years ago. Comes with the risk of letting your opponents catch up and takes solid live reading skills (which dnegs has in spades.) but its a profitable strategy if you can avoid making errors that cost you big. Some errors are ok, and if playing small ball, those errors cost you, small. When hands gain momentum, and the opponent ends up with the better showdown value, it feels like you've made a mistake, which is not wrong, but not right either.
Small ball poker is much better for viewing. It doesn't feel like a game of skill when it turns into wait for the premium hand and then shove preflop.
loved the video. love kidpoker.
Thank you! 😎
enjoyed this one, I remember watching this and rooting for him, tough loss
It is generally not correct to make statements about counting other people's money. I believe that only Daniel can say how much he lost or how much he earned. Good video. I hope that the author will draw conclusions for himself and in the future there will be only high-quality content with a correct description, and this will not only increase views, but will also inspire respect for the author. All the best and prosperity!
Thank you for your thoughtful comment and feedback!
Where was the mistake? Getting unlucky isn't a mistake, it's called... Poker
It's called click bait bud, you got suckered!
The mistake is not shoving the a4 if he shoves he takes pot instead of allowing j3 to see flop
@@loudorchen9897 sooo... Shove every hand where your opponent has outs?
@@prideofalion with 12 BBS and a hand that doesn't flop well, yes of course
great video
TY! Glad you enjoyed it
Getting super lucky right before the bubble usually is a must bc you’ll have people who will fire 5-10x buy ins and the bubble will be full of min stacks. Getting lucky goes wo saying but if you can get past that bubble with a good stack you can really start to see the field fall fast bc and level off. As long as you have 5x I think you are doing fine but people usually get satisfied with bubble pop so play all the way down to best start hands and don’t just punt bc 5x goes to 35x goes to 100x and then your arrested for public intoxication with zero regret!
Awesome video
Thank you! 😎
Getting to the final table and winning the tournament is two different thing. If this was an Olympic event, he didn’t make it past semifinals
I would love say I would have played it the exact same and been out in 11th place too but more likely I would have busted out on day 1 😂😂😂
😂😂 then head to the Roulette table to try and win back that $10k buy in 😂
Same and Same! 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Mckeehen looks like he's made it big playing online poker from his mom's basement
Fantastic .couldn't happen to a worse guy
McKeehan has an unfair advantage - the huge ecosystem inside his beard team up vs Daniel Negreafish every hand!
Such is life. My last WSOP tournament, got it in with AA and got 4 flushed by KK. You have to get lucky in so many spots to win any tournament.
Extremely lucky. I don’t think any poker player will argue that
Negreanu turning into Big Ern McCracken
It’s criminal that Daniel has not won the main event.
Not really. These things aren't easy to do. Even Ivey doesn't have a Holdem bracelet.
How is it “shocking” when a hand that is 50/50 pre flop and 80%+ after the turn holds?
Cool video. Would be great without the music though.
Music adds drama. Hard to tell a good story without it. I'll try turning it down in future videos. Thanks for watching!
dang i’d feel awful if i lost a bracelet too
These tournaments are basically an expensive version of "all in or fold". Sure, they nibble for awhile, and then go all in. To win such a tournament, you don't have to be a good poker player. You simply need to sun run. It is very rare to see anyone bluffing to cause someone with stronger cards to fold.
Played it right got coolered
Even an all-in pre-flop would not have resulted in a fold. IMO
You always think you should have played your hand differently when you getting knocked out a tournament 😅
😂😂100%
I consider myself an amateur and I would have pushed all-in with any A as the short stack. So I'm not second guessing Danny, Its just that's what I would have done. McKeehen probably would have called anyway and the results would have been the same. However, if Danny pushed all-in preflop, perhaps McKeehen would have folded because it wasn't an amateur pushing all-in preflop.
Its a great compilation of Daniel's play in this event, but you don't point out the mistake, was it in JQ v KK? Or in the final hand? And if the final hand its hardly an $8m mistake as winning the pot with a pre-flop shove still has Daniel as one of the short stacks.
Thanks for watching. You may have missed it, but I did point out the mistake. In the video I talk about how his decision to not shove preflop with A4 was the mistake that led to his elimination. If he shoves preflop, I strongly believe McKeehen would have folded.
Dan thought he was the Man with winning Aces , but cards are cards he took the chance , I think he didn’t take enough time to think things out . Oh well there will be other games . Great entertainment 👍👍👍👍🍺🍺🍺
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A4 is an all-in or fold at that point and he would be the first to admit it.
It did not matter who he was playing in the hand, being short stack, he could not pass too many opportunity to go in.
Agreed! Especially when you know the chip leader is opening 100% of hands from the button.
How did this cost him 8 mil ? He didn't even make the final table...
That stupid stare was so tilting. Not like he had a read, just starring to stare. So dumb.
so the catastrophic mistake was calling the raise pre-flop raise instead of shoving? I thought it was going to be something far more regrettable
Sorry to disappoint. In poker, a small mistake can be catastrophic. I hope you still enjoyed the video.
Good lord that trust fall at the end looked painful. My back hurts just watching it.
😂😂 I’m sure he felt it the next day
Never ever EVER go all in preflop without a pocket pair unless you’re short stacked
I would have mucked the A4o. You’re dominated by almost every other ace, unless the flop comes 2,3,5 rainbow or 4,4 x you likely won’t have the best hand. Jamming pre might have been the way to go but it’s so easy to be dominated there.
If you get to the flop yes you hit your ace but you could easily be shoving into a bigger ace. If the other player has just diamonds the still are about 36% to win. KT would just have flopped 2 pair so you’re dead in that scenario.
All in all I obviously wasn’t there so my opinion doesn’t matter but I would have mocked the A4 and waited for a better spot.
I don't agree he should have pushed pre flop. Joe was dominating the table woth his chip stack. When that happens your a4 vs him looks to be strong. You don't call on pre flop woth a 4. A4 is a strong hand 5 handed especially when blinds are high. I play to win and push odds. Theres a lot of players who will grind there stacks down and play tight for me I don't do that. I go for it.
there has never been an 8 million dollar mistake in poker
Pretty hard to beat a monster stack that running super hot 🤷♂️..
Facts!
Poker hated this year, I totally forgot the Amish won the ME. No one heard anything from that whole FT ever again...
Not true joe mckhean is a crusher still to this day.
I don’t like the raise with broadway, all flushes call while all worse (which opponent had) easily fold.
With the Ace of diamonds in his hand, he blocks many of the flushes his opponent can have. If he didn't have the Ace of diamonds I think he would probably just call.
If skill had anything to do with it Daniel would of won. Both his pocket cards were higher than Mckennon pocket cards, the flop, the turn, the river were all by chance or luck
Daniel said the key words , go against the guy running hot, =bad move
lol Poker 101
Oh Canada 🇨🇦 ask Daniel for money lol
What a scam i got knocked out the very first day cost me 8 million as well
I agree that as a shortstack Daniel had to make a decision preflop all in or fold based of his feeling about Joe's hand strenght. But when he called he had no other choice when A hit the board.
Someone said before that was only the end QJ hand was the one which decided the outcome, even if Daniel won this one still he would have little chance against chip leader.
If you were in Daniel's shoes, what would you have done?
The latest from 2015 posted 12 days ago. Jesus. Is there really that little poker?
No it was just a great untold story
So he lost a flip and that is a mistake? Sure, A4o could shove preflop and win, but on the other hand, that would not have confirmed him the first place, not even nearly. To get there he needs to double up sooner or later. I bet his strategy was to play a lot of pots and use the skill edge he has, of course we can argue if he should have changed it when stack is so shallow already, but calling this 8 million dollar mistake is obviously hyperbolic to the extreme.
One of those people that look better with age
Can't tell if McKeehen has skill or not....When you run that hot, you don't need skill.
I’ve played with him a few times in the past few years. I don’t know about back then, but he’s a solid player now.
There a sheet on which player got more premium hands in tournies like this?
I don't think they start tracking every hand until the final table is reached. But I could be wrong.
Joe McKeehen ...all the skill, but not a speck of memorable, or marketable, personality
all the skill, that's debatable
A4 off is NOT a goo preflop all in with that many in the table still, he has at least 9 hands to get some better, but if he is going to go with it, ALWAY go all in with the Ace, never limp it being low(he wasn't THAT low yet), I would of dumped it in that position.
This video is a lesson in turning BACKGROUND music into FOREGROUND music!
Is the music too loud?
He saw AK and then acted like Phil
Negreanu: "Straight."
🎤: "Me too."
It's only a result oriented mistake. I think Daniel knows what he is doing deep in the $10k main
I don't even have 1/1000th the talent that Dnegs has for reading people...but WHY did he have to play so many hands when he was up...Too bad he didn't pick better spots(Easy for me to say).
I think he was getting frustrated with McKeehan. He felt like McKeehan was running over the table and decided to take a stand. But luck just wasn't on his side that day.
It’s tough too say about Daniel’s pre flop play because although A-4 is ahead of button raises in most cases daniel would be a coin flip if they got it all in with other ranges the button would be raising with but let’s take it for what it is in this situation although a small favorite in most situations Daniel had enough of a chip stack too apply pressure back to the big stack I think it might actually be a shove it’s close but a shove is the superior play
I appreciate your detailed breakdown of the hand - always good to learn from different perspectives. You pointed out a key factor - "applying pressure to the big stack". McKeehen wants to maintain his chip lead going into the FT. Therefore he does not want to take high variance spots like this one. Great point!
7:00 why would dicarlo win if it was a flush? Wouldn't that be a chop???
He fell short cuz he wasn't lucky enough, period!
Commentators are usually pretty knowledgeable, but in this case I have to disagree. It was bad luck and not a mistake - at least, not THAT one; the QJ hand was more the mistake - that did Daniel in, because I think the chip leader calls him even if he does move pre-flop.
Lol, what a ridiculous premise for a video. Its not an 8 Million dollar mistake if there are still 10 other players. He was even extremely below the average stack being at 17.5 millio and Daniel having a stack of about 8 million. (Assuming he goes all in pre flop and Gets the fold) 15:06
But even if, number one got 7.6 million - 0.5 Million Daniël got is 7.1 million at best.
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@@RoyalFlushMediaCompany don't feel sorry, either say yes you are right that's a good point I agree.
Or say no I disagree I stand by my title.
Props on you for listening to a critique and responding to people. And adjusting the title.
Better title.
IMO I don’t think my title was click bait but putting myself in the shoes of my viewers, I can understand how it might seem that way. It’s never my intention to use click bait to get people to watch my videos. My goal is to share my passion for poker and make high quality content for people to enjoy.
the "mistake" doesnt nean he lost 8 mil...
A4 is a pure shove pre. To try and play postflop with that hand, out of position and short stack against a guy who who will put pressure on you is ridiculous
100% Agreed!
If a mistake was made(IF a mistake was actually made), it was not post flop….It happened pre flop.I believe with his chip count, he should of shoved all in.That is just my opinion, i am not saying it is the correct move.I believe that opponents hand was foldable even with his large stack.
Just wondering, did anyone ever ask opponent if he would of folded or call the “ all in” pre flop.?
Either way, playing the hand like Daniel did , i don’t think it was wrong, just shitty river luck.
Easy for judging after the fact.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the hand! I don't think McKeehen has ever stated publicly if he would have folded, but I think a player as good as him would have recognized that calling with J3 would have been a bad call.
Two AK all ins lost him the 🏆
I would have folded A 4 off I think...i hope DNegs gets one.
I mean, he finished 11th, not 2nd. That's far from a "mistake that cost $8 million"
If he doubles up there, he would have a little over 30 big blinds. And given that he was the best player remaining in the field, he would have been in great contention to win.
He got his money in good 56% played the hand perfect. His reading ability is world class so going with his read even with the qj v kk is the right play because on the long run his reads are usually correct. Mcheon just had the perfect flop vs his opponents over and over.@RoyalFlushMediaCompany
You are doing well till your luck runs out.
so not really a mistake.. just bad luck
Negranu totally messed up not shoving preflop a 4 doesnt play strong post flop. Very very bad play. He would have picked up the million pre flop and lived to fight another day. I wonder what would have happened if he won that hand at the end how far he would have made it?
Same here. It’s crazy to think that a small mistake may have prevented him from winning $8M
One small mistake and a 17 min video.... something is wrong here.
Its about the journey and the mistake. Every story needs context.
DNEG lost his stack because he refuses to fold when beaten......sure he made some amazing folds and calls, but I am 1000% certain that he would have had many more bracelets and wins if he folded when losing the hand
Did AI write this Voice Over?
No, I spent a week researching and writing the script myself. I used a voiceover artist to narrate the story. What do you think? Does any the script or voiceover need improvement?
Dez what’s your name on 2+2?
Im not on 2+2
Dude is negative 100s of millions of dollars when it comes to actually PLAYING poker in his career... If it wasn't for his sponsorships (PokerStars) and his new sponsorship to (GG) he would be broke lol
One of the top 5 players of all time.
Who else is in your top 5?
why 8 million mistake? if he would won the hand he at least had to win 5 more showdowns to win the tournament
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9:00
Yeah it looks like he just ran into a guy that was running super hot. It really stinks, but poker still has luck (or randomness) involved at the end of the day.
Keeps calling behind and hitting. It's luck
Are you referring to Negreanu or McKeehen?
Luck runs out sooner or later
Indeed!
For 12 big blinds, McKeehen is calling anyway if Negreanu raises pre.
Possibly. But with J3s it would be a really bad call on his part.
100 % Mckeehen is folding if Daniel jams pre .. J5 is a horrid call there for a 12 bb jam
@@Ladosligese Agreed! What hands would you call with if you were McKeehen?
it was J3
First of all, after playing casino poker for 40 years (when I started, 7-card stud was actually the premiere game being spread everywhere in Nevada), let's see.....how can I sum it up?
Poker is bullshit.
Hmmmmmm..........
Yeah, that looks about right.
lol It can be a frustrating game for sure. Do you still play?
Not on a regular basis in casinos anymore.
Back in the late 80's-early 90's, I sat around in limit stud games for 6 years. Then I finally gradually started playing less and less. I played long enough to get a couple of royal flush prizes, and to be seated at tables where 4-of-a-kind bad beats occurred a few times (meaning I got a chunk of the prize a few times; I never held the winning or losing hand in such cases, though).
The most amazing thing I ever saw in a 7-stud game at a casino was a straight flush getting beat by a royal. But what was even more amazing about the hand was that one player held the 4 thru 8 of diamonds, and the winner of the hand held not 5, but 6 straight flush cards (including the royal flush) IN THE SAME SUIT that the loser's straight flush was in! The winner held the 9 thru Ace of diamonds. (Six consecutive staright flush diamonds--against the other player's lower straight flush in the same suit!) On my grandma's eyeballs, I was seated at the table when it happened (and I got a piece of the bad beat) back around 1990 at Harrah's Tahoe poker room at Stateline, Nevada in Lake Tahoe. (I don't think Harrah's Tahoe even still has a poker room anymore--but they did for years.)
By the way, the winner of that hand won both a decent chunk of the bad beat prize for holding the winning hand (the loser got the lion's share), PLUS the prize for getting a royal. Two house jackpots in one hand. What were the odds of this incredible, phenomenonal hand playing out exactly the way that it did, and the two players getting dealt those cards, I wonder?
Another time, I was dealt 8 clubs in a 7-card stud game (yes, you heard that right; I got dealt 8 cards in a 7-card stud game, and they were ALL CLUBS), including a straight flush that got taken away from me about 10 seconds after I got dealt the 5th card that made the straight flush. Yeah, I know, I just said a mouthful. You just about gotta take a deep breath, and let that all sink in for a minute.......
I ended up winning the hand with just a regular flush, anyway.
EXPLANATION: What happened was, in a 7-stud game, I've got three clubs rolled up on 3rd street, so I'm in. Let's go. Lets' make this flush.
4th street comes a club, so now I'm almost definitely going all the way to 7th street to see what happens. I make my flush on 5th street , and there's still myself and three other players in the pot! It doesn't look to me like anyone else has shit, and now, I've got three clubs showing face-up on the board. Everyone checks to that. I bet showing strength, and everyone else slows down. One guy drops out. The other two just call. I'm in the first position to the dealer's left, by the way, so when he deals, I get the first card, then everyone else gets their cards in succession. I'm thinking of a card (I think it was the 5 of clubs), and on 6th street, the dealer gives it to me! I couldn't believe it! I now have a straight flush! I can't lose!! But the dealer in his haste to deal 6th street made a critical mistake, and dealt an upcard to the guy who was in second position right after me, but who folded on 5th street, plus he deals a card to the other two guys who are still in.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!
Someone says "MISDEAL!", but then the dealer says "No, we don't have to declare a misdeal and give everyone back their money on this hand. All I have to do is take back the four upcards that I just dealt for 6th street, put them back in the deck, reshuffle the cards that are left in the deck, and then cut the cards, and then re-deal you three players that are still in the hand another 6th street upcard. Remember, this was 7-card stud--so streets 3 thru 6 are all upcards, so the dealer knew EXACTLY which cards he first dealt on 6th street, which was why he could do what he did, and just take back all the 6th street upcards that he first dealt, and give the players who were still in the hand NEW cards for 6th street.
So, the Lord gaveth, and then the devil poked me right in the ass all within seconds, as I watched in agony as the dealer took back that five of clubs, along with the other player's 6th street cards, mixed the cards up all facedown on the table, then arranged them all in a thin deck, shuffled, cut and dealt a new and different upcard to the 3 remaining players. (What was I gonna do, bitch about it? I wonder how many players would have stuck around in the hand if I had done that.) I just sat there in disbelief with my stomach up in my throat when the dealer took back the 5 of clubs. By the way, I am the only player who actually received the card that he was supposed to receive on 6th street THE FIRST TIME. It was only the other two guys in the hand who would have received different cards if the dealer hadn't made his mistake, since the error occurred in a position that came AFTER I received my 6th street card--all of which only added to my utter frustration when my straight flush card got confiscated, nullifying the strength of my hand, and making it just a regular flush again.
I couldn't freakin' believe it! Of all the motherfreakin' times for some stinking bizarre bullshit to happen which takes away a card that I rightfully got dealt! I was literally in shock.
So. mind you, I've now already been dealt 6 clubs in this hand. But now 6th street gets taken away, and redealt. It's another club. But this time, it's the 8 of clubs, so no straight flush. We're just adding what is now a pretty insignificant overkill card to what was already a regular flush. But I have indeed now been dealt 7 cards--all clubs--in this hand, and so far, I've been allowed to keep 6 of them. The strength of my hand is pretty transparent at this point, showing all puppy feet (clubs) as upcards, so I bet and another guy drops out, and one guy still calls. Here comes 7th street, down and dirty. It's the Queen of clubs. I'm holding 7 cards, all the same suit, after getting dealt 8 clubs in the hand, and at one brief moment, having what would have been a straight flush, which promptly got removed by the dealer. When he saw what I had, he said "Well, you wouldn't have won any more money (with the straight flush), anyway."--which was true. I won handily with the regular flush. My opponent at showdown couldn't even come close to beating it--but still, come on. It's just the principle of the thing. You just don't take away a man's glory when he finally gets that straight flush that he's been playing thousands of hands for since the last time he got one. Why does the most bizarre shit happen at such critical moments when it makes THAT kind of difference, and then no such preposterous circumstance happens again for the next ten thousand hands, when it DOESN'T make that kind of a difference?
WHY??
I wanna know!!
On yet another occasion, I got dealt all paints in a 7-stud game; 3 kings, 2 Queens, and 2 Jacks. That only ever happened to me one time in all the years I played 7-stud. I wonder what the odds were on that. I also only ever made a four-of-a-kind IN THE FIRST FOUR Cards I got dealt in 7-stud ONCE.
Just once!
One thing I always loved about the game was turning over your two hole cards on 3rd St. to see that you're rolled up, and that you already have 3-of-a-kind. Of course you want to see that 4th card hit--and how sweet it'll be if it's the very next card. It WAS once for me, at Boomtown near Reno, back when they spread 7-stud. It never happened again like that in all the times I got rolled up with trips. Let's face it, you're very lucky to make quads on ANY street when you're rolled up with trips, let alone to hit it on 4th street.
But you just about piss your pants when it actually happens.......
Phones, sun glasses, pc of any kind and eating at or around the table should be all be banned . Phil h swearing as well he never so much as a warning, we all serar yes, but 30 times in row? In one hand ? ..
Players will lose their minds if you ban phones at the tables 😂 But I completely agree. I would also add "any and all types of face coverings" to that list. Players nowadays are coming to the table looking like Kenny from South Park ...SMH 😂
How the &$_# am I gonna tell Daniel anything
This is why he will never be the greatest
Who do you think is the GOAT in poker?
Poor daniel I am glad he lost they say all skill BS all luck any person can play this game
Poker is definitely more skill than luck. But when your running bad, it can definitely feel like its all luck lol
True, luck win in short term, and between two skilled players luck surely matter, no doubt....
Also I can beat Daniel with luck if we play just one hand, but if I play 1000 hands I guarantee I will be beat, because his skill outperform my luck in long run