AMAZING discovery detecting the 1,000+ year old church!!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Another great days detecting on the medieval church site with plenty of coins including silver and an epic relic 🤩
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The well worn silver coin is definitely French. It is a 1 Franc Semeuse named after the female sower figured at the reverse. It was minted after the original design from the engraver Louis-Oscar Roty between 1898 and 1920 - 15 million coins in 1898 and 440 million in total. It contains 835/1000 silver and weigthed originally 5 grammes each. Demonatized in 1924, the 1 Franc silver coin was replaced in 1920 by an ugly cooper-aluminium coin... The same design 1 Franc Semeuse came back between 1960 and 2001 (until the Euro took over) but, this time, it was made out of nickel.
Thanks Serge for the great information, much appreciated
Nicely done Serge - although I think it's a half Franc, so 50 centimes. Everything else I'd agree with. The date on a 1 Fr is right at the bottom milling and whereas John's has the date higher up - the same as the French 50c. Easy way to tell, the 50 centimes is 2.5 grams while the 1 Fr as you correctly say is 5g while the 2 Fr is 10g and the 5 Fr is 25g. The beauty of a silver standard! Great work John again !!
@@AndyGraceMedia Damn it! You are absolutely right!
The Chalice is Absolutely amazing John!
Have you ever thought about checking those rock walls or fences with the detector?
The chalice could be really old, which it could well be, as pewter when in common use had 'Hall marks'.
That Goblet with the Dutch Iris pattern is gorgeous! Wow! What a treasure!
Bearded Iris, not dutch.....
Many thanks Marianne, glad you like 👍
Holy Molly when you brought the HG into camera shot, Oh my word GORGEOUS it’s Beautiful 💞 so excited with you👍
Congratulations beautiful find. 👏
Classic art nouveau motif.
The chalice with the irises on it is lovely. What a find. The coins were all great too.
Thanks Maggie and I’m glad you enjoyed
Iris
The chalice could have some age…. When you said “scrap value of pewter” I was shouting “NO!!!!!” (I’m sure I was not the only one! ). Pewter can be repaired fairly easily but needs to be done professionally. Gorgeous find!!!! You are so lucky to have found such a treasure!!
You were not the only one! LOL
Definitely not the only one! I think my soul felt that deeply lol.
😅the chalice looks art nouveau to me and most probably used for communion
Looked up the meaning of an iris flower, it means faith, hope courage and wisdom. The chalice you found could very well be older than you think and possibly from the old church and was used as a communion chalice. When a church fell out of use it wasn't uncommon for some of the churches items to be sold for revenue.
Many thanks Vivien… it definitely had a church chalice look to it doesn’t it
@@thescottishdetectorist absolutely and the chalise is well worth doing more research on.. Stands to reason a smaller church in an area where people were not necessarily affluent would have pewter accoutrements rather than silver ones.
Absolutely love the pewter cup / chalice could hav3 age to it
Agree it's likely ecclesiastical.I' feel it's Victorian. Maybe it was stolen in mistake for silver plate and dumped by the wall many years ago? A 'whodunnit'!
Agree!
Hi, good news, the Holy Grail could be very auspicious for you.... the flowers look like Iris, and back in the day the Iris stood for hope, courage, wisdom and admiration = hope for great finds ahead, and you have all our admiration with your historical wisdom and courage to go and dig in all weathers... Ta da. Thanks for another interesting dig and delve video. Have a great week, cheers.
Many thanks for the kind words Cate and great information!! Much appreciated and glad you’re enjoying!!
“What happened in 1965?” you asked- I was born 😂 Another great day of treasure hunting for sure 👌🏻
Haha 😂 well done!
Great day for finds for you, the coins are really nice but the Chalice is gorgeous. Well done 💕🇦🇺
Many thanks Liz. Much appreciated
You have me laughing right out of the gate, only someone who lives where you live in would consider that as "not a cloud in the sky"! I'm glad you have some sunshine finally, though, just giving you a hard time. Great video as always!
Good Morning John from Atlanta. Seriously brother, you make me more homesick with each video (originally from Berwick). Fantastic finds, top pop and a belter of a chalice after a near fatal injury! Brilliant stuff!
Many thanks and best wishes. Glad you like the shots of home! 🏴
"Near fatal injury"....😂😂😂
@@thescottishdetectorist You're definitely in one of the most beautiful parts of the world. I used to visit libraries all over Scotland as part of a previous job and I used to drive through Fife and Perthshire a lot. I kick myself now of all those missed opportunities and how I didn't spend enough time admiring the view. You live and learn!
You left a glorious part of the world, Hotstonez. Me and the wife live in the middle of nowhere midway between Alnwick and Berwick. Absolutely stunning. Not native Northumbrians, but we fell in love with the place nearly forty years ago. How could we not? I'm a wannabe detectorist (not even a newbie), but John's videos are a constant inspiration that make me curse my knackered, arthritic knees every day and dare me to splash out on the gear and hope for the best. Maybe I will.
@@thescottishdetectorist Hope you recorded that cut finger in the worksite accident book, John. Titter.
Wow John! That feild has treated you very well! That chalice is a show stopper for sure with all the coins a bonus!!! What a video!! Congrats John! 👍👍👍👍👍
Much appreciated Ray. I can’t wait until this field is harvested and I can get on the fields properly because where I’ve been able to do so far seems littered with finds!!
Get yersel some saline capsules, there about pinkie length. I alway's had them in my bag when dry stone dyking in sw 🏴 , I was alway's getting cuts and scratches. Great Sunday viewing. Have a good day man..
Many thanks Billy. Much appreciated
Good Morning from your biggest Alaskan fan! The flowers on The Holy Grail look like irises. Wonderful video, as usual!
Much appreciated Miss Alaska!
That goblet is the find of a lifetime! Congratulations! Well done!
Great finds as always, almost always (lol), John! I’d say a funeral urn. Probably a lid out there yet. The inside lip no doubt was to support its’ lid. Happy hunting and continued good luck!
Nice hunt! Very entertaining with the "holy grail!" I think my fave was that you found both halves of the skeleton key.
Many thanks Scott…. Shame I might have chopped it in two!!
I see a pattern of irises and automatically think late 19th/early 20th century. Very very popular Art Nouveau motif. Solidly Edwardian.
Thanks Peter. Much appreciated
I agree Peter. Art Nouveau rather than Art Deco.
I agree Art Nouveau all day long... (in my non-expert opinion anyway!) 🙂
@@lisacrandall409 If it was for the church it would have been silver, so must have been drinking goblet. Very fine repousse details.
Hi John, I felt that the 3rd from last coin might have been a farting rather than a halfpenny. But I’m no expert! Also the grail looks more Art Nouveau to me. I really loved the clod imprint of the gorgeous George coin….his ear was early shown!! Fabulous vlog, as ever. thanks x
Much appreciated Susan and you’re right art nouveau was the words I was looking for! Many thanks
Belter finds john, love that goblet and the design you are blessed with great Fields pal 😊
Much appreciated Andrew. Many thanks
Hi John , Its appears to be a Victorian finger bowl which held water for dinner guests to rinse there fingers pre dessert course then put to one side by guests to be used again at the end of the meal.
Much appreciated Ray, thanks for the id
Wow John, just wow!!! That chalice is amazing and yes probably used in your medieval church a long time ago!! What a find, still fascinated at the amount of coins you find - great video 🎉🎉
Oh yes a congratulations on 28k subscribers 👏👏👏
The pewter item could have been a part of the communion service to hold wafers (the 'body' of The Lamb) or wine (the 'blood' of The Lamb) to serve to the congregation. An integral part of the worship service. Well done! How lovely to have it see the light of day again.
Thanks Okie. An exceptional find! Amazing what can turn up isn’t it!
Google says irises are associated with the passion of Christ and the Resurrection because they bloom in spring. So, could be a church connection if the church was active during the Arts and Crafts period.
as much as we enjoy when you find an old coin, i can’t help but wonder how much of a privation it was for the person who lost it
Love your videos John, they’re so relaxing, exciting and informative all at the same time. You’re wonderful accent is a bonus 😂
Thanks for sharing! 😊
Great adventure! Thanks for taking us along.
GRAIL form would be called a FOOTED BOWL or a PEDISTAL BASED BOWL.
The flowers are irises and the decoration reminds me of the Arts and Crafts style of the William Morris period. In the US, Tiffany studios used similar relief images of irises and daffodils on architectural and decorative items. If you could find an Arts and Crafts metal worker they might tell you more. Take a picture with Google Photo and let Google do an image search.
The quality of the piece makes me think that it was not accidentally dropped or thrown away as trash. What would this type of item be doing on a farm? So, was it hidden against the threat of theft, tax- or debt -collectors or envious relatives? If it was purposely hidden, what else might have been hidden nearby? Was it found near any unique features that would help someone find it again? Are there any four features in the landscape that could create two lines that would intersect where you found this? What stories might this find tell?
Fabulous day! WELL DONE... AGAIN!
thanks for the knowledgeable comment!
I think it is much older than you think it is
"envious relatives"...I love it...the way you inserted that into your statement. Sounds like you've had experience with those kind of relative as have I. Lol! They are the worst!
Those are some great finds, John. The chalice or goblet looks like it has a recessed rim around the top, so there is a chance that there was a top portion that fitted into it. So maybe there is a chance that there is more of it to be found in the field. I enjoy your videos immensely. Cheers from Texas.
Hello! Glad to see another viewer of John's Scottish Dectectorist from Texas! I love his videos but laughed out loud at summer being mid 60° F! If he only knew our summers!
I know, it was 91 degrees here in San Angelo, TX. But I guess if the weather is generally cool in Scotland, 60s and sunny would feel a little warm.😁
Such amazing finds, triple silver and of course the holy grail what a unique artefact well done John 👌🏻
Many thanks Jimbo. Always amazes me what can turn up out the fields of Perthshire!!
John, here’s an easy way to remember art deco vs art nouveau - art deco is design related, art nouveau is nature related. Not 100% accurate but pretty danged close. 99.99% 😊
Hello, I am having to really listen to you. You accent is great to listen to you. Loving what you are showing. I am from Arizona, USA, Have a great day.
Thanks for the kind words Jo! Glad you’re enjoying!!!
Such wonderful fun & interesting finds. Worth getting up early on a Sunday morning. Always enjoyable. Thanks.
Congratulations just love the Chalice, lucky man…💖🇦🇺😊
Much appreciated
😂 loved the reference to monty python got a laugh out of that
Haha 😂 glad you enjoyed Marc
What great finds, love the holy grail!!
Thanks Mel. Glad you enjoyed
The pewter challice is stunning with the Irises and reminds me of the Seagull Canada Pewter Co. in Pugwash, Nova Scotia, Canada. I have a couple of pieces from the 1990's, one which has the Iris pattern. I live in Ontario and my daughter and I enjoy your videos very much.
Wait! What? D'you mean to say there's a place called Pugwash? That when I watched the true and accurate adventures of Captain Horatio Pugwash, skipper of The Black Pig, when I got home from school he was named after a real place?
Colour me shocked 'n' stunned!
Yes i thought irises .
Beautiful chalice! Just stunning! Great job my good man!
Beautiful sky ❤So excited for this dig!
Many thanks and hope you enjoyed
WOW!! What an AMAZING find! That’s a BEAUTIFUL goblet! Congratulations!
Wow. That’s a lovely chalice. ⛪️. Great finds again John. Love your channel
Much appreciated Suze. Glad you enjoyed
Great finds John fantastic presentation as usual can’t wait to hear the story of the chalice
Many thanks Paul. Glad you enjoyed
Another cracker of a video.Thank you bunches. Love the chalice its iris design reminds me of William Morris wallpaper designs during Arts and Crafts Period of design with many of the organic elements of Art Nouveau. Please let us know if you find out more about the"grial".Awesome!
A good lot of finds finds here John and,I particularly like the pewter chalice, the fields you've used in this video have been well occupied and could very well throw up a lot more interesting stuff if you stick with it, well done pal
You do find some amazing treasures John. That iris “grail” even cracked…must have a story. In it’s day must have been stunning. Trifecta silvers…what a sweet day! Thank you for sharing!
Much appreciated Dyane. Glad you enjoyed
Wow what a beautiful chalice! It may have been used in the church possibly, how awesome. Love the video and lots of coins to boot
Amazing find ! It may be older than you think . It will be interesting to see if you find out more about it .
What a stunning find that goblet is. Well saved John 👏 👏👏
Wonderful finds.Imagine if all these could talk what tales they would tell.Subscribed👍🏻
Many thanks Michael and welcome to the channel. Lots of older videos for you to get your teeth into!! Enjoy and thanks again
Last name is buckley also
I've watched enough of you videos that I have been able to recognized two of your coins before you told us. Thanks. Your videos are so much fu😊n
Thanks Tina!! Glad you’re learning and enjoying!! Best wishes
Amazing find... Reminds me of the show... "The Detectorist".
Haha 😂 except I remove most of the tin cans and ring pulls from the finds
Great finds, love the chalice. Great video as usual. Cheers
Many thanks Nick. Glad you enjoyed
I'm hooked! I watched one of your videos--and 3 videos later... :-) Love your videos and vicariously living your treasure hunts and adventures from the States. Thank you!
The pewter vessel has a recess on the interior of the lip which suggests there would have been a lid to accompany it. Pewter is/was a popular material for grave Urns. Might be worth another search of the area.
I was back there yesterday! Many thanks!! New video just uploaded 🤩 my best days detecting in 24 years!!! I may even cry a little 😂
Great bunch of finds as usual 👏 👍 that grail is awesome!!!
Glad you enjoyed! Many thanks and best wishes
Don’t drink out of the Iris cup. Lead was used in early pewter works… beautiful regardless. 🥰💕❤️👍👍
You had a great day! The cup/bowl is gorgeous! ❤
Many thanks. A really great day and plenty of finds! See you on the nect
Gorgeous iris chalice find! It was fun to watch what you got this day, John!
I have a suggestion on the item you found after the doorknob. It could be a handle from a kettle is what I think is likely.
When you said 'holy grail', I immediately pictured an Angel of Richard III..! 🤣 You had a great day anyway. The grail has iris flowers, and I agree that it looks Art Deco or maybe Art Nouveau. It looks a bit like flower bowls you can get at the florist's. You put some foam in the bottom, and stick flowers in it. There should be a cemetery nearby...
The pewter chalice is, as you say amazing. The flowers look like irises, lovely in relief work, fantastic find. Well done. It's very art nouveau in design too. I looked into the language of flowers and irises are used to tell the receiver they will soon be getting a message, maybe from a loved one. Victorian's were really into the meanings of flowers.
I didn't know that there was a message in the flowers! I'm going to look into it now. I have a pitcher from the 1880s that's porcelain, soft pink, with white lillies of the valley in relief in panels on each side of it. I just assumed it was a pretty design, and i have saved it for my 13 year old whose middle name is Lily.
The bowl/cup is gorgeous! It's decorated with iris'. Fantastic find!!
Reminds me of a holy communion cup from a Catholic church. About the same size with the rounded bottom making it easier to remove the contents. Could be way off, but what a neat & interesting find john!
Definitely looks like a church type chalice that’s for sure
Based on my extensive knowledge of one Google search, i think that coin is a 1 French Franc
I've watched a few other metal detectorist youtubers and your channel is the most interesting and educational one.
What a beautiful find is that goblet! Wow!
That chalice is gorgeous! It looks art deco or around that time. Maybe used in an Easter service. So gorgeous. It looks like there might be a mark on the bottom on the edge of the center. You might want to get the metal checked before you drink out of it. The big flowers are Iris. I agree with greenspiritarts when you said scrap value, I yelled "NO!" in my head so loudly I figured you could hear it even two days ago. 😊 I am impressed at how hard you work. You must have incredible strength the way you dig.
Floral patterns are art neuvau not art deco which has architectural lines and came after In the 1930s
The chalice/ goblet/ cup is (I think) a great deal older than 20th Century. Look for a connection to the ancient chapel/ church site. What a find. Well done.
30:10 the holy grail!!
Amen 🙏
Great finds John. That challis blew me away. Question: is it possible for you to detect right along that stone wall? I’d be curious to see what you’d turn up. I’m a new subscriber and really enjoying your videos. Cheers from Australia 👏🏻🇦🇺🦘
Thanks Libby and welcome to the new channel. Definitely going back to look for more!! Enjoy my beck catalogue of videos!
@@thescottishdetectorist Have already been enjoying (and ‘liking’) them. Great viewing.
Blessings, my Scottish Detectorist friend. Hmmm…a “plaster”…we would call it by the leading manufacturer name…bandaid. It’s kinda like “facial tissues”…here in Tennessee, we just call them Kleenex…OHHHHH, John…the holy grail. Watch out, my friend. The Vatican is gonna come after you now…or perhaps the knights Templar. I truly appreciate your live digs. Showing every step of the dig, as well as the imprint of the coin, is awesome. Other American metal detecting folks, show the coin down in a pre-dug hole…not so good…could’ve been tossed into an open hole. Hmmm. I like your process. BTW…that toy gun handle looks like it has the devil on the grip…ooooo…that’s bad. Blessings, John, from this old man in Tennessee.
Much appreciated as ever! Have a great weekend. I’ve drink from the chalice but so far I’m not immortal 😆
Now you have something to hold the coppers from those fields! 🎉
The "Holy Grail' is spectacular. It looks like a cup my Aunt Beatrice had from the 1920's. She was a "Flapper" and she performed at dance halls in Atlantic City, New Jersey. She lived in the old Claridge Hotel, and worked as a secretary for many years for a law firm. The things she had in her suite were beautiful, although my family thought they were all junk, so they put most of her things in a rummage sale. I kept a couple of things she had, but unfortunately not the cup.
I think the French coin is a 2 Franc piece, that's a very nice find from a field in Perthshire, Scotland.
John, you must continue searching on that field! Take care!
p.s. my wife says you need to put some triple antibiotic ointment on that cut!
Wow! Another fruitful day. Thanks for sharing.
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nice finds. greetings from Ireland ☘️ 👋👋👋
Many thanks and best wishes
Cheers to another great upload mate!
Hope you enjoy the video Trent!
@@thescottishdetectorist It was lovely as usual, the grail/cup was a spectacular find!
I now have a metal detector!!! I went for the Nokta Simplex mate. Now I just need somewhere where I can dig!!!🤣🤣I think Art Nuevo too John, nice find. 👏👏I think that is a 1Franc, like you said.👍👍 1916, Battle of The Somme. Do you use distilled water in the bottle? Enjoyed the video as always John.👍👍
Many thanks Al. And welcome to the detecting fraternity!!!
Just good old Scottish tap water, we’ll unless I run out and have to resort to bottled water 😂
@@thescottishdetectorist Thanks John.👍👍
As always a awesome hunt and video, thank you John
The flowers on the cup are irises. I love your videos and your Scottish accent.
I wondered what a 'willy hat' was....then I translated. :) What a beautiful cup! (or chalice) with Irises on it....maybe it's a pewter Irish Mullingar. (prob. not) I am dog sitting two dogs for a month, they are old so maybe won't mind if I do a bit of detecting on our walks. :) Cheers everyone.
Many thanks my friend
I feel badly for the man that lost his knob in the field.😂
Could happen to anyone 😂
Great sense of humour
I can’t stop chuckling
The man would have been well brassed off
😂😂
😂😂😂😂 I can’t breathe 😂😂😂
It's late at night here in Arizona, and the wife is sleeping. I had to watch. Now the wife will be mad because I didn't wait to watch it with her 😂
Oh oh…. Sorry to hear I’ve created such marital strife Chuck! Best wishes
Haha 😆
It was so nice waking up at 4 in the morning and watching yr vidio.
Having watched a few of your vids it’s making me get the itch again after 10 years away from detecting.
Great video with interesting finds as you never fail to disappoint, thanks John!
Many thanks for the kind words Peter
Wait what? Never fail to disappoint? You sure?
Great finds John:,BRAVO!!!
Much appreciated Gustavo
This is kinda off the wall but I have been a coin collector for about 63 years although I specialize in far eastern back to about 400 BC. One of my co-authors was a chemistry professor who used to do the xray spectography on odd and curious money in my collection before we published. He himself collectred mostly English hammered coins.
Anyway, there is a way to remove heavily encrusted patinas off coins. You heat them red hot and drop them into alcohol. In the case of otherwise unreadable or unidentifiable cash coins that were copper alloys with many mixed metals in them made that way so the castings would flow into the sand molds, but also so the metal would be nearly useless to make weapons from, you could see stuff like lead and antimony boil out of tiny pores in the surface. The resulting coin was usually a deep red. But whenyou are dealing with thick and hard patinas that were vitually impossible to remove to let you ead the coin, it was an alternative. Understand that many of therpse came from long time earth burials and even shipwrecks and in some cases were produced at as much as a billion a year and one emperor ruled for sixty years.
What a day!! Unbelievable video and finds John absolutely love the chalice keep up the hard work mate and thanks for sharing 👍
The 1916 .925 sixpence with the imprint upon clay is cool to see all that action. Beautiful coin and the Queen Victoria 1897 threepence as well. Nice
Yes amazing condition and detail….. wow
Very pretty chalice, nice finds today! A good day for you!
Silver threepennt bit ! Keep it for yer christmas pudd'n x
Thanks Jenny, bring me some luck!!
Sometimes churches used pewter communion cups - years ago. My Mum's old church had a set of old pewter communion stuff dating back 100s of years. They were quite puritan looking - no decoration. Your cup is more flamboyant. Could the flowers be orange lilies? William lll?
You're probably right - Victorian romantic/deco. But you never know!
Well done. 👍
Irises, lovely.
Another great video John! Thanks for the tip that a faint signal might be something small, a coin on it’s edge or a deep target. I find extremely dry conditions always present a challenge as the signals are different than they are in wetter conditions. The pinpointer doesn’t seem to allocate the target as well.🇨🇦
The chalice is beautiful. No matter the age or use. Worth investigating for sure. I agree if it is pewter, it would be easy to repair.
Lovely finds! That chalice design looks art nouveau to me so maybe 1890-1910? I always think of stories behind finds like this.... somebody knicked it and buried it but forgot where 😂
Thank you for all the information on your finds. I have learned so much!
ciao... sacro graal,, very very beatiful..!!!! medieval...
U have the holy grail having the owner allowed you to swing that property..truly wonderful digs John🍻🍀
3 cracking silvers John, then wow how many detectorists have dug up a chalice great day again thanks
Probably a candle holder for a pillar candle to provide light so that the farmers could work after sunset. Most likely this candle stood on the stone wall at the gateway between the fields. The flower motif embossed on the surface are definitely Bearded Irises. The metal is most likely sterling silver since pewter would have had a patina that would have turned the object completely black in my opinion.
Great find you’re finding on this permission. Loved the chalice.
The flowers are Iris. The rim suggests it might have had a lid. Lovely find that pewter cup.