It might mean that the Ishtar Colective made a bargain with Taranis and he fullfiled a wish for them. Most likely that wish was to keep Neomuna safe and hidden away, because it contained The Veil. That's why that place is still as it was during the Golden Age and the Vex started attacking it in earnest only after the death of Taranis, when his protection expired.
One thing I thought of as we were collecting wish glass in The Coil is how Riven talks about it coming from a "poorly worded" wish and I think she also says the wish was about revenge? Not entire sure about that 2nd part, but the "poorly worded" part and the fact that its glass is very interesting to me, because I think it might actually be related to Praedyth. See, Praedyth made a wish. He wished his hunt would never end. "Never end" is the key word of that wish. What ended up happening to Praedyth? He got trapped in the Vault of Glass, presumably fighting forever. This lore comes from the Age Old Bond Legendary Auto Rifle, Ill put in parenthesis the key parts. The driving bass line of a classic song from Old Earth drove their prey before them. No less than a half-dozen wyverns snarled and clawed at the trio as they stabbed and blasted their way through the wilds of Mars. (Praedyth wished hard. Wished it would never end) Alongside him, Kabr was a towering giant. An Awoken-made weapon roared in his hands and in his head. Pahanin was a force, a living embodiment of the Void. (Where he pointed, Ahamkhara died.) In the middle, between them, Praedyth smiled. (A winged and scaled lion with a boar's tusks leapt at him, and he could swear he saw the thing wink at him) as he tore it apart. Beneath the song, (Praedyth heard static, like a comm signal.) Best not to think about it. (Praedyth wished again, and the hunt went on.) The "winged and scaled lion with boar's tusks" could have been an ahamkara. Now that I think about it, they do kinda resemble those features. Scaled, lion-like, tusks (tentacles), etc. And when Ahamkara granting a wish, they do show signs of them granting it.Their eyes glow, whispers are heard, etc. So, could the wish glass we pick up in The Coil be related to Praedyth and his wish for his hunt to never end? I think so.
noticing a huge theme of !lettinggo amongst the characters. lightfall started with the river flows story from nimbus and there is a continuing theme of hope and peace. it started even earlier with hidden dossier lore with "placing our heart in the face of the enemy and saying, 'change your ways'"
This could be build up for Episode 1 the vex looking episode. We could dive into the garden or network and rescue people/guardians trapped in the vex network like the VoG team or research members. In season of the dawn we did use the sundial and vex tech to rescue saint 14 and we also recently saw Asher in the vex network so there is the possibility we can open a door and pulls these people through
@@TheShuuman Well, we already know that Asher got inside Vex network, and he sad that not he will became part of Vex network, it is Vex network ITSELF will be part of Asher, so if we truly go "fully" inside Vex network to save some peoples (or VoG team) and it will be a trap, Asher will defenetly help us.
man seeing red death in this video, makes me happy, cause i know in about 100+ more days ill be able to also have it in d2.... i hope its a craftable exotic....
I really hope we get content years to come. I would love the entire map of the Cosmodrome to be open. Have world events, bosses, even secrets. Think Guild Wars 2 or SWTOR
Yeah I thought it felt different without all the overgrowth - more like the Vault or the Pyramidion... The emblem is called The Well Tended Garden though right? (I think that's what he said) so that WOULD suggest we were still in the Garden... Maybe deep underneath it it somewhere. Does the reward at the end of the GoS raid look like this? I've only done it once and can't remember, but you drop down after the boss right?
I'm glad about a season ago I said on social media towards bungie I Tag them and told them that I want to see more missions like shield or Outbreak prime that I'm getting sick of seasonal contact and then a season later we got star-crossed! I just hope they listen to the right people that season content is okay the way it is but make the rewards make the missions more of a focus. I just want the seasonal content to feel like a actual DLC having new destination new npcs every season shouldn't feel like the same!
I haven't even finished that bow quest at all for the season of The wish are my way until I level a lot to the right level of doing the star cross mission the only thing that gets me wondering is if I'm able to get all the catalyst to drop at once or I might have to do it all separate that's what really gets me thinking
you can do it all at once, if u do all the missions beforehand so they are all on the finish starcrossed on legend difficulty however there are two of those missions that are hidden in the starcrossed mission themselves
@@James-zo1uy yeah I'm aware of the one in the Star-Crossed mission but I really want to wait till I hit 1830. But don't get me wrong I love the mission but sometimes it can be a pain if you get what I mean LOL but thanks for the advice man
Welll…hey it’s time man. Time for Praydeth to come home man. He’s a real soldier, trapped in the Vex loop tortured. Still won’t snitch to the Vex Collective. It’s time Bungie, bring him home. We owe him for his heroics in the Vault of Glass.
If I Remember correctly did we not find praedyths Skeleton body in one secret missions in D1? We’re you visit the VOG for something ? Unless they pull saint-14 to bring him back
We did but also didn’t, sorta like how we found saints body but where able to save him due to the time anomaly on mercury, time in the VOG is all screwy so even though we saw his corpse we can still save him
It really just feels at this point like John Bungie sits up in his office saying “Oh, they’re still not happy? Bring this mysterious guy from the lore back and finish their story line!” We’re gonna have no legendary guardians left in a year. Just characters bungies killed by trying to give them life.
I dont know what are you guys talking about, I start play this game since November 2022, my first mission was a quest from witch queen dlc and I don't know what happen before that. 😂
I did all 4 catalysts in one run but was unaware of this vex portal until ages after we finished it. Do I have to run it on legend again or will doing it in regular still spawn the portal?
Of course I'm talking about the original bungee but this could be the indication of the collective that Venus may return in the first episode content between March and June.. I say the original bungee because the current bungee they don't have a really good story creative process they want to constantly do everything the lazy way recycle or reuse. Well that's OK but if they reuse it in a proper story manner and not just a lazy way just to make content! My problem with the seasonal content is that it needs to be more story-driven and not so much of a title ornament chase! I saw the chart for the episode content I just hope we are not gonna have titles anymore I'm sick and tired of it I just want good story good rewards! I want destiny 2 to feel like destiny one story driven best rewards vs time invested in all aspects of content! Personally if it wasn't for the dungeons I would have stopped playing destiny 2 a long time ago. I would never spend money on the seasonal content that's why I'm waiting for the first episode content to see if bungie is actually listening. I'm not the only one who is sick and tired of titles! I seen plenty of videos from other RUclipsrs who say something very similar that they are sick of titles they want the game to be harder and they want the game to be more rewarding. Titles should not be the main focus of seasonal content!
Bungie need to unsunset all dlc they stole from us 150 dollars worth of dlc and add it back and that would fix a lot of peoples complaints and mine the game was so much better then and since ahadow keep all they have done is resold us old content with different enemies and activity's that where far worse than original content the problem is there double dipping and we are the ones paying the price twice for same crap
Sadly this is what u get when u play live service. It sucks I know. I completely agree but it's sadly a fever dream. Sunsetting and shitty new dlc is why I stopped playing it
It might mean that the Ishtar Colective made a bargain with Taranis and he fullfiled a wish for them. Most likely that wish was to keep Neomuna safe and hidden away, because it contained The Veil. That's why that place is still as it was during the Golden Age and the Vex started attacking it in earnest only after the death of Taranis, when his protection expired.
Yeah that sounds plausible
So are we never going to talk about how the Collective’s logo is almost identical to a Hive rune?
Which one?
One thing I thought of as we were collecting wish glass in The Coil is how Riven talks about it coming from a "poorly worded" wish and I think she also says the wish was about revenge? Not entire sure about that 2nd part, but the "poorly worded" part and the fact that its glass is very interesting to me, because I think it might actually be related to Praedyth.
See, Praedyth made a wish. He wished his hunt would never end. "Never end" is the key word of that wish. What ended up happening to Praedyth? He got trapped in the Vault of Glass, presumably fighting forever.
This lore comes from the Age Old Bond Legendary Auto Rifle, Ill put in parenthesis the key parts.
The driving bass line of a classic song from Old Earth drove their prey before them. No less than a half-dozen wyverns snarled and clawed at the trio as they stabbed and blasted their way through the wilds of Mars.
(Praedyth wished hard. Wished it would never end)
Alongside him, Kabr was a towering giant. An Awoken-made weapon roared in his hands and in his head.
Pahanin was a force, a living embodiment of the Void. (Where he pointed, Ahamkhara died.)
In the middle, between them, Praedyth smiled. (A winged and scaled lion with a boar's tusks leapt at him, and he could swear he saw the thing wink at him) as he tore it apart.
Beneath the song, (Praedyth heard static, like a comm signal.) Best not to think about it.
(Praedyth wished again, and the hunt went on.)
The "winged and scaled lion with boar's tusks" could have been an ahamkara. Now that I think about it, they do kinda resemble those features. Scaled, lion-like, tusks (tentacles), etc. And when Ahamkara granting a wish, they do show signs of them granting it.Their eyes glow, whispers are heard, etc. So, could the wish glass we pick up in The Coil be related to Praedyth and his wish for his hunt to never end? I think so.
noticing a huge theme of !lettinggo amongst the characters. lightfall started with the river flows story from nimbus and there is a continuing theme of hope and peace. it started even earlier with hidden dossier lore with "placing our heart in the face of the enemy and saying, 'change your ways'"
And you can see Praedyth being shown in the Final Shape trailer. Fighting forever.
This could be build up for Episode 1 the vex looking episode. We could dive into the garden or network and rescue people/guardians trapped in the vex network like the VoG team or research members. In season of the dawn we did use the sundial and vex tech to rescue saint 14 and we also recently saw Asher in the vex network so there is the possibility we can open a door and pulls these people through
As much as I want to rescue the VoG team if they can be, I can see the Vex baiting us for a trap
@@TheShuuman Well, we already know that Asher got inside Vex network, and he sad that not he will became part of Vex network, it is Vex network ITSELF will be part of Asher, so if we truly go "fully" inside Vex network to save some peoples (or VoG team) and it will be a trap, Asher will defenetly help us.
guessing they're setting up for a storyline featuring Msund12?
aka Maya SUNDaresh?
there were simulated versions, this could be the 12th simulated version of maya sundaresh@@James-zo1uy
@@Brrrstrument So I guess the vex had a hand in that huh
But, what is OXA? And who is Otzot? (This is a joke. I already know what they are.)
man seeing red death in this video, makes me happy, cause i know in about 100+ more days ill be able to also have it in d2.... i hope its a craftable exotic....
I really hope we get content years to come. I would love the entire map of the Cosmodrome to be open. Have world events, bosses, even secrets. Think Guild Wars 2 or SWTOR
Would be nice but bungie doesn’t wanna set expectations 🤦🏼♂️
Well we do have another saga after tfs
this is probably the greatest mission (besides operation seraph shield)
I’d say zero hour is pretty great too
@@gibby03exe79, my list is
#1: operation seraph shield
#2: star-crossed
#3: zero hour
#4: presage
#5: node.ovrd
#6: whisper mission
#7: vox obscura
#8: whet stone
#9: ager's scepters quest
(honorable mention: the conversation)
But why? Yes its visually stunning but the encounters are incredibly boring. Legend is even worse, filled with enemies that have far too much hp
@@carlislewoudsma4717Putting Zero Hour beneath Seraph's and Star-Crossed is criminal
Nice voice and diction. I could listen to you for hours! Thank you!
i would love to see more of this. definitely on a Destiny 3 though, i want a true fresh start. Tired of old content being removed.
The Ishtar collective created the Vex, and they have used time travel to the point we never realized we created them.
I miss rasputin. Can we bring him back
Why does it feel like bungie is taking mara down a daenerys targaryen parallel? "The dragons are my children."
"Dracarys..."
I did a double take at the 4 shaders from the insight terminus clip. That takes me back haha
It’s epic lore but we get no dialogue. Some would be nice.
Ahamkara lesson from Riven? Appropriate!! And as for Mara taking on responsibility for the raising of Riven's clutch? Hmmm.
Maybe even the return of Venus at some point since Ishtar is heavily connected to that.
Is it in the black garden tho? It looks similar to the io vex architecture
Yeah I thought it felt different without all the overgrowth - more like the Vault or the Pyramidion... The emblem is called The Well Tended Garden though right? (I think that's what he said) so that WOULD suggest we were still in the Garden... Maybe deep underneath it it somewhere. Does the reward at the end of the GoS raid look like this? I've only done it once and can't remember, but you drop down after the boss right?
I'm glad about a season ago I said on social media towards bungie I Tag them and told them that I want to see more missions like shield or Outbreak prime that I'm getting sick of seasonal contact and then a season later we got star-crossed!
I just hope they listen to the right people that season content is okay the way it is but make the rewards make the missions more of a focus. I just want the seasonal content to feel like a actual DLC having new destination new npcs every season shouldn't feel like the same!
Definite world building for the Episodes.
I agree would be nice to just play everything again.
Well….in a mission of the Taken king it shows how we went to rescue Praydith and that he was dead
Shout-out to DookieBootyFartWater for making another legendary appearance!
I haven't even finished that bow quest at all for the season of The wish are my way until I level a lot to the right level of doing the star cross mission the only thing that gets me wondering is if I'm able to get all the catalyst to drop at once or I might have to do it all separate that's what really gets me thinking
you can do it all at once, if u do all the missions beforehand so they are all on the finish starcrossed on legend difficulty however there are two of those missions that are hidden in the starcrossed mission themselves
@@James-zo1uy yeah I'm aware of the one in the Star-Crossed mission but I really want to wait till I hit 1830. But don't get me wrong I love the mission but sometimes it can be a pain if you get what I mean LOL but thanks for the advice man
@@82teamo you only need 1815 tho, legends sets your effective level to that.
@@PhantomMiria22 then I have to see what's up then because not all the time I get anxious to jump in there so I'm going to see when
@@PhantomMiria22 then I have to see what's up then because not all the time I get anxious to jump in there so I'm going to see when
How bad is it that I deleted Destiny 2 but still listen to the stories via this channel?
Looks like the vexcalibur. Wonder if it has any interaction with that symbol.
Welll…hey it’s time man. Time for Praydeth to come home man. He’s a real soldier, trapped in the Vex loop tortured. Still won’t snitch to the Vex Collective. It’s time Bungie, bring him home. We owe him for his heroics in the Vault of Glass.
Still think the wish was a bad idea, still think we should have found the vex connection...and met Janus, Architect Mind
Seriously hope anyone who sees this remembers for later
Fuckin
Asher and sundaresh just vibing in the vex network
is no one mentioning the guardian 'dookiebootyfartwater' in the footage
If I Remember correctly did we not find praedyths Skeleton body in one secret missions in D1? We’re you visit the VOG for something ? Unless they pull saint-14 to bring him back
We did but also didn’t, sorta like how we found saints body but where able to save him due to the time anomaly on mercury, time in the VOG is all screwy so even though we saw his corpse we can still save him
It really just feels at this point like John Bungie sits up in his office saying “Oh, they’re still not happy? Bring this mysterious guy from the lore back and finish their story line!”
We’re gonna have no legendary guardians left in a year. Just characters bungies killed by trying to give them life.
Does this have to be done on legendary mode?
Yes
I dont know what are you guys talking about, I start play this game since November 2022, my first mission was a quest from witch queen dlc and I don't know what happen before that. 😂
I did all 4 catalysts in one run but was unaware of this vex portal until ages after we finished it.
Do I have to run it on legend again or will doing it in regular still spawn the portal?
I have the same question
Soooooo... Riven's young are the final shape..?
what gun is that at 2 minutes 12 seconds
Red Death from D1
@@rab819 thanks i didnt play d 1 and i was looking thru collection. i couldnt figure it out
Where’s The Witness?
Well that was a let down
Of course I'm talking about the original bungee but this could be the indication of the collective that Venus may return in the first episode content between March and June..
I say the original bungee because the current bungee they don't have a really good story creative process they want to constantly do everything the lazy way recycle or reuse. Well that's OK but if they reuse it in a proper story manner and not just a lazy way just to make content!
My problem with the seasonal content is that it needs to be more story-driven and not so much of a title ornament chase! I saw the chart for the episode content I just hope we are not gonna have titles anymore I'm sick and tired of it I just want good story good rewards! I want destiny 2 to feel like destiny one story driven best rewards vs time invested in all aspects of content!
Personally if it wasn't for the dungeons I would have stopped playing destiny 2 a long time ago. I would never spend money on the seasonal content that's why I'm waiting for the first episode content to see if bungie is actually listening. I'm not the only one who is sick and tired of titles! I seen plenty of videos from other RUclipsrs who say something very similar that they are sick of titles they want the game to be harder and they want the game to be more rewarding. Titles should not be the main focus of seasonal content!
Titles used to be special , its not really anymore - with just about everything being tied to one
Bungie need to unsunset all dlc they stole from us 150 dollars worth of dlc and add it back and that would fix a lot of peoples complaints and mine the game was so much better then and since ahadow keep all they have done is resold us old content with different enemies and activity's that where far worse than original content the problem is there double dipping and we are the ones paying the price twice for same crap
It's not legally our man. All games are subject to be taken down.
Sadly this is what u get when u play live service. It sucks I know. I completely agree but it's sadly a fever dream. Sunsetting and shitty new dlc is why I stopped playing it
I want to believe that once we defeat the darkness all the planets will be able to be playable again but im really not too sure about the content
bro you need to learn punctuation 😂
I heard their main reason was because the storage needed would be insane
Is it just me, or is 90% of characters gay in destiny?
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First like and comment!!😅
Wont fucking matter because its timegated.
Also it'll be entering the exotic mission rotation at some point during final shape