HOW the 747 carried a SPACE SHUTTLE? Explained by CAPTAIN JOE
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Dear friends and followers welcome back to my channel. Today we'll be looking at the famous SCA, Shuttle Carrier Aircraft. The Boeing 747 which carried a Space Shuttle on top of its roof. We'll go deep into the history of the space shuttle program and the origins of the 747. How this iconic combo came together. What John Kiker, Nasa engineer had to do with it, what structural changes had to be made at the Boeing 747 to carry the orbiter and many more very interesting facts.
A big thank you to the Space Center Houston and Nasa for allowing me to record at their facilities and providing me with incredible video footage. I can't wait to be back in Houston for some more recordings!
Thank you very much for your time! I hope you enjoy this video!
Wishing you all the best!
Your "Captain" Joe
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Sorry guys, it’s liquid oxygen and hydrogen! My bad! I was sweating like crazy that day, it’s humid in Texas😂
Thanks for all your support!
Hehe!
I got family in San Antonio and the heat and humidity is no joke, it gets hot af there lol
I know it. Did you see the texas aviation museum at Ellington field?
Thanks for replying Captain. It takes balls to admit mistakes in such a public forum but it shows that you love what you do and you want to present the correct facts because you take pride in your work...
If you visit India, it would be hotter there, Joe😂
Who wouldn’t mind an hours long video of Joe rambling about the Shuttle/747 combo? I sure don’t mind.
Christopher Taylor I wouldn’t mind that at all
But volume is very low
nobody should mind about the informative,educational videos no matter how long they are in my opinion.
Christopher Taylor True! I actually wish all his videos were way longer...but sadly he has a real job too lol
I'm very interested in this as well.
5:28 car casually driving backwards
The video was taken backwards
Kyle Butzerin I am aware of this
It’s NASA - it was an autonomous car, but somebody reversed the polarity on the battery by accident.
🤣🤣
😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
So here we are at 100000 likes. Waiting for that space shuttle cockpit video captain! :D
Yes sir! We are!!!
hello captain
Yea I did my part!
Jan 2022, still waiting.
Juli 2022 still waiting
Imagine being that engineer with his models and seeing his idea and dream take flight. (Quite literally)
Lmao hi rg
or her... (just sayin...)
@@eftieell Huh
@@eftieell there was a picture of the guy. Get your sjw bs outta here
@@jacobh674 The Under Dog should've known better but theres no need to be so aggressive about it. I can't stand trigger warnings and stuff of that nature but your response shows you got triggered lol.
I remember in the 80s my mum woke me up early and said I wasn’t going to school today because the space shuttle on the back of the 747 was coming to RAF Fairford in the UK and we were going to go and watch it land .
It was an amazing day out
Lucky you.
@Acid Trip Mine aren't good enough for you anymore? I have some more for you, you know with the flavour you like "man juice".
I would love that
Wow
How could it go overseas given the quite limited range?
I like how you used the “liftoff! We have liftoff” as an alternative for the ATC communications. Very cool video Joe!
For the intro?
Captain Joe Mama
nicholaslokos yep
FL 380 caught that, too. Nice touch!
jackpast :D
Everyone: Strap Engines to the shuttle
John Kiker: No
Everyone: But...
John Kikier: I built a model that works so shut up.
Haha, that's probably how it went down ;)
I think the shuttle could be something like the X-15 with the 747, they could add fuel inside of the cargo bay, make it so the main engines could be used, then strap it to the 747 and at some high height they could fire the shuttle's engines, detach it, and it could fly! I'm no rocket scientist so don't go insane if this is stupid and wouldn't work. I just think it sounds cool. (maybe perform a science experiment if it could make it to space)
DreaRockets 09 it was a concept for other launchers, but with a lot of issues. Space shuttle definitely couldnt do it b
@@goldbird0315
I wondered about that when I was a teen, but there are at least problems:
#1 The 747 could barely carry the shuttle empty - no way it could with a full fuel load.
#2 Not room for enough fuel to get close to orbit.
#3 Five or six miles of altitude and a couple hundred MPH of velocity is such a TINY percentage of the altitude and speed needed, it would hardly be different than a ground launch.
The X-15 being comparatively tiny could be carried higher and faster, and it was not capable of reaching orbit.
Matthew Lui ikr
I was in middle school when the 747 carried the shuttle for the last time. Our school let us leave the period early to see it but told us it likely wouldn’t be close enough for us to see. A few moments later 2 fighter jets zoom right over us followed by the beautiful roar of the 747 and the space shuttle gently resting on top flew right over us. Still bring a tear to my eye :,)
I was lucky enough to see the 747 + Shuttle when it came across the pond to display at the Paris Air Show in the early 1980s. When it overflew the centre of Paris, traffic literally stopped on the Periphique - a 4 lane motorway - and people got out of their cars to watch ! Back in the UK, i then went to Stansted Airport to see it when it staged through there on it's way home. Taking my Grandmother to see it was incredible - she was born only a few years after the Wright Brother first flight, showing the incredible pace of change in aviation. In pictures of the Stansted visit, our sandy brown motor caravan with its distinctive white roof is clearly visible in the car park ! Fantastic memories. Thanks for bringing them back Captain Joe.
I believe the orange tank contained Oxygen and Hydrogen. Not Nitrogen.
Your right
@@mosestomfelix Mine left
hydroxygen
Am glad you caught that mistake... It's a thing to remember next time I get to fly this little bird... 😂😂
yeah, i was like.. Nitrogen isn't fuel
7-8 years ago, the 747 carrying the shuttle flew over my house at a low altitude (less than 1000 feet). Very awesome!
By the way, I live only 8 minutes away from the Space Center! I really wish I could have met you :(
elephant35e I live in League City, and I saw it fly over my house when I was getting ready for school.
@@Jedi_Knigga Nice! I live in Seabrook.
@@chippymunks1827 I did too. It was either 1978 or '79 when the 747/Enterprise combo was parked at the old Stapleton airport in Denver. I was totally amazed then, and the amazement has never left me.
@@Jedi_Knigga Dickinson here. Crazy with how big this world is and how big youtube is that you can still see comments from people right next to you.
Baytown here. Ah the small world and even smaller YT strikes again!
"Attach Orbiter here....Note: Black side down"....I will be back in a minute, need to clean the diet coke off my screen, that is to funny.
In the 4WD exploration community (at least down here in Australia) we have an expression: "Keep it coloured side up..."
I have that as my wallpaper.
"...clean the diet coke off my screen"
The first time I saw that label, it was coffee, not coke and a good thing that I had a spare keyboard.
Evan Stedman spotted on a Defender a few years back, printed upside down below rear window: “if you can read this, please turn over”.
Diet Pepsi > Diet Choke
I remember seeing one pass by our house (the farewell tour) it has been one of the most memorable things I've seen in my life
Wow. The really wrote "Attach orbiter here. NOTE: BLACK SIDE DOWN".
Dude I lost my soul laughing at that.
you know there was that one intern that made that warning nessecary
“Who the hell put the shuttle upside down?!? How do you even do that? Fine, I’ll make a note. Silica tiles down... no not specific enough. Black side down. There”
Recently I really had to laugh as friend of mine, who happens to be Captain at Cargolux, dropped this line: "Captain Joe is my F/O!" :D
Christoph Hopfner and I know exactly who that is
The F/O who cares to share his knowledge...
Eh, small world we live in
Captain Joe Do the Captains u work with razz u about this in fun? 😁 You're a positive guy so imo it makes total sense, you're livin' the goal 🙌🏼
Thank you for visiting my city and we Houstonians are VERY PROUD of our NASA folks! The JSC is a great place to visit and take the family, full of knowledge for them to absorb and fun.
Agreed. Went there all the time as a kid!
I even applied to work there a few months ago. I had an interview, but sadly I didn't get hired :(
Thank you Joe‼️ For everything; I’m a 15 year old in High School and ever since I started watching your videos my passion for aviation grew bigger than ever; Keep Up The Good Work‼️💙💛 Greeting from Chicago‼️😁
Same just I'm 13 greetings from Lithuania
brainwashef
I was actually there for the ALT test in 1977! Thunderous applause when the wheels came down and then made contact with the runway. As a 10 year old at the time it's something I will never forget. Plus, this was the same year Star Wars came out so I was primed for everything and anything space related.
"Attach orbiter here. Note: black side down"
What is this, an Ikea product?
Green side up....sod
Yes
Sounds like something from KSP.
If it were an IKEA product, the instructions wouldn't have any words - just a drawing of the orbiter above the 747, with arrows between the attachment points showing which screws to use. And it would come with a cheap little allen wrench.
*Note:* If incorrectly fitted could void warranty
One of the coolest sites I’ve ever seen was a shuttle reentering earth atmosphere at night. Orange streak was amazing. Miss seeing them go up since I live in FL.
Same! That was the coolest sight!
Wow! Count yourself soooo lucky. I would travel across the world to see that!
I'm from East TX, we saw the Columbia explode
I live in Ireland, and on a number of occasions I saw the separated tank and shuttle fly over my house a short while after launch. A incredible sight.
Noel Griffin I’m coming to your house for the next launch! Ha ha
For the record: replace nitrogen with hydrogen and the shuttle will start. Thumbs!
For the record: Don't forget to fill nitrogen tanks too unless you want the shuttle's engines flame out too early.
I noted the nitrogen / hydrogen goof as well. The only plane I know of to carry nitrogen with regards to the fuel system is the SR-71. On most aircraft as fuel is used the empty space is filled with air. On the SR-71 the empty space is filled with nitrogen to prevent the fuel (JP7) from ignition.
I thought it was hydrogen. When I heard nitrogen I got really confused.
6:15 - that's interesting to know that a 747-100's capacity of passengers and luggage is about equal to the weight of a space shuttle.
Don't forget the mail and overnite freight.
not really equal though remember a 747 with passengers will have all of the insides of the plane where the shuttle one had the inside removed
@@juliej9187 Yeah, that's right. It's capacity is all the passengers, plus all their baggage, plus all their seats, IFEs, Flooring and overhead compartments. ;-)
Plus the mayonnaise. Don't forget the mayonnaise.
It doesnt usually max out with passengers, but cargo, that is a lot more dense.
I just saw the Space Shuttle about 2 weeks ago in NY, I didn’t expect it to be this big. It’s amazing how the 747 can carry this massive structure.!
Great video. Back in 1999 i believe, i was attending a flight school in Phoenix. Somewhere between there and Tucson was an aiport with stored aircraft that was supposedly an ex cia site. I flew in for fuel and low and behold there was the shuttle transporter. They let myself and a buddy i had with me go inside and check it out. One of the most memorable things of my time in Arizona. I keep wanting to think Avra Valley but i dont thing thats right. Would have to dig up my old logbook.
Captain Joe if you in Houston you're just a few hours away from the future of space exploration you need to head south to Brownsville Texas and visit the new Space X space center.
BORDERMAN2000 Man I would love to see both these places. Goals :)
I had the opportunity to see two Enterprise ALT landings at Edward's! As well as two Columbia landings. At one of those the Challenger was mated mated to the 747 carrier, did a flyby wagging it's wings! So long ago but memories never to be forgotten. I still have pics and Super8 film of the events somewhere.
When 2 of my passions collide, space and planes. Now we need an airplane that could go into space 🤔
I think I that may actually be possible sometime in the future. The Space Shuttle, to me, was the first step in that process.
Virgin is on it my man
We already did that/came close many years ago, but it depends what you qualify as "in space", because there are several layers. Some planes get ridiculously high.
Maybe one day
There have been several aircraft that have gone to space. The X-15, Space Shuttle, Buran, Spaceship One and the X-35.
And to be fair only the Space Shuttle, Buran and X-35 went to orbit.
I was lucky enough to see it fly by super close to the school where I used to work. My 1st grade class and I had been outside ready to see it. Needless to say, my kids were super excited! So was I! 😉 The thing is, one of my little boys named Anthony, watched it fly by and excitedly came to tell me; “Miss Luna, it was the mom and 2 babies!!!” 🥰
anybody else love the shape of the 747 or is it just me🤷🏼♀️😂
True it's not just you
Some might like it. I think it's a very ugly aircraft although it's not bad with the space shuttle attached.
You obviously know it's not just you
Shit post
easily one of the most iconic and influential airframes in our history. And yes, i love her curves.
This story cannot be without mention of the plane that the Russians built especially for transporting their space shuttle: the Antonov AN-225.
Which is still going strong, largest cargo plane on earth in active service capable of taking of and landing on mostly unprepared runways!
Also, they used the "strap some jet engine" approach to their shuttle for aerodynamics testing....
Yes! It's a shame the Buran program didn't go further, and didn't give us more images and videos of it operating. It must have been just as crazy and epic as the 747 shuttle carrier.
Cool too that they designed the vertical stabilizers of the AN-225 as dual stabilizers on the sides right from the start, also a great idea to make it as a cargo plane as well, now it can keep performing jobs only itself can do.
Too bad they didn't make more of that monster, it would be amazing.
Also the Buran had an interesting way of making it lighter: the shuttle itself had no engines. Given it would not need 'em anymore after detaching the extra tank and boosters, it's just pointless to keep carrying them to space and back after all.
hi R...
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american space shuttle and 747 jumbo are the best top airplanes in the world...
not ussr russia...
ussr russia is a very cheap low classic buran with an225
@@bestamerica Yep, that's totally not a bait, not at all
A RUclips channel named Mustard has made a great video on Buran
I remember being outside with my cousin one day at school. He is into sci-fi and planes so when he heard a jet going overhead and looked up and shouted "LOOK! The space shuttle!". So sometime in 1984, the shuttle was piggybacking over Port Chester, NY.
Hey Captian Joe, come out to Kennedy Space Center some time, my dad works there! I bet they could clear you to land at the shuttle landing facility if you ask nicely :)
I happy to know the 74 and shuttle combo didn't end up scrapped. This was terrific. The 747 and Concorde are my favorite a/c's.
In either 1980 or 1981 (or really close to that), my father was stationed at Tinker AFB in Oklahoma. The 747 and STS landed here to refuel and we watched it land and refuel. I remember that we were not allowed to take any photos. But my 10-11 year old self thought this contraption was just the coolest thing ever. Thanks for the reminder of this childhood memory Captain Joe!
As a child I thought that they mated mid-air lol
Alasdair Howell uuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmm waht
Imagine how epic that would be tho
Loool
They did - and then they turned into a robot
YES! Thought I was alone
Black side down guys, I once read that most of the time there are signs because someone screwed something up at first... Let that sink in, and ignore the physics of how that is impossible.
I don't think I can ignore the possibility for professionals to put a PLANE on upside down. Makes me giggle.
1. Nothing is impossible. ever.
2. Remember the astronaut mantra...
No situation is so bad that you can't make it worse.
3. The Shepard's (Alan Shepard) prayer: "Dear Lord, please don't let me f*** up."
Note: Hinted he might have said, "Don't f*** up, Shepard".
Either way, you get the point.
4. QED
Who here watched Moonraker in the movie theaters back in 1979 ! I did an I was 7 years old !!!!
I was 16 and wondered how the main engines started without the ET.
@@patricklowe1039 ET?
@@starlight7830 External Tank
I didn't know enough about the shuttle back then, just that Drax had hijacked one... paging Mr. Bond, James Bond.
The Space Shuttle Missions were so inspiring!
I have a lot of love for the Space shuttle and space program my dad was an engineer who worked with the team that designed the tiles. He also was part of a team that did the investigation on Columbia. He passed back in 2010
1:17 Sooooo.... who's gonna tell him that the Space Shuttle main engines use LOX (liquid oxygen) and hydrogen, not nitrogen.
Enut Peanut Where?
@@brentjabris.ceballos
His comment is literally pinned to the top of the comment section dude lmao...
yea I was going say lol
The comment section is plagued with these commemts
747's little buddy! Please everyone like button so we can see more of this amazing combo from Captain Joe!!!😊👍
1:17 Not nitrogen but HYDROGEN.
I remember in 77 ' the space shuttle test off the 747 ,,, it was a time to be proud to be an American. Thanks for sharing this video with us all .
This video is what i live for.
Best video ive seen in 2019
Awesome video!! "Let's make sure history never forgets the name, Enterprise."
It's just a shame that it was built without engines or a heat shield and neither went into space nor shuttled anything anywhere and so was, therefore, a test vehicle, not a space shuttle.
While it carried out many important tests, first flight on the back of a 747 chief among them and furthered the development of both the vehicle and the programme in no small measure, to Trekkies everywhere it was an ignominious career for a vehicle bearing the name Enterprise.
Last sunday i was flying home from Luxembourg after a trip with my dad and we arrived at the airport at 1pm and had lunch in the terminal and watched all the traffic on the runway and in 15 minutes 4 747 cargo jets landed, 3 of them CargoLux and 1 Silkway.
M flight was at 5pm and in the 4 hours i was at the airport here is the count i had
3 Cargolux 747-400F
1 Cargolux 747-8F
1 Silkway 747-8F
1 Air China Cargo 747-8F
1 Atlas Air 747-400F (parked)
4 Cargolux 747s (parked i couldnt tell what model as they were at the Cargolux Terminal)
You missed the 777's from emirates and quatar
@@eltondelgado4289 i see enough 777s at Gatwick i want more 747s
He was talking about 747s only
1:17 pardon me Mr joe i think its liquid "hydrogen" not "Nitrogen"
Tumpa Talapatra yeah
Stumbled over that one too. It shoukd be "Hydrogen" for sure. Voice-typos happen to the best of us. =)
We all make mistakes! 😉
OUI BAGUETTE CROISSANT
Oohhh no.... Quickly unsubscribe, and ignore all future content from him. Totally unacceptable that he made a mistake!!!!
I watched this so many times growing up in Tulsa. The piggyback came many times as all of the shuttle's bay doors were assembled and fitted at the McDonnel-Douglas factory in Tulsa! Great memories!
I’ve been lucky to see 2 shuttle liftoffs STS 76 in March 96 (Atlantis) and STS 114 in July 2005 (discovery). One night and one day launch. My dad personally knew one of the astronauts on 76 and got to sit in the VIP area. We met up with a photographer with a telescope lens and watched the shuttle al the way into MECO (main engine cut off). Incredible experience and memory!
Then being in northern va we saw the shuttle ride and land at Dulles international airport to then be kept at closeby Udvar-Hazy museum. I have tons of awesome pictures and sorely miss the program. Great video Capt.
So, seeing as when it has the shuttle in the back it has two sets of wings. Does that make this the world's biggest biplane?
Mr Sunshines someone’s mad lmao
Mr Sunshines Hey! Check this out....You are a mean person.Now say you’re sorry and then sit silently .
Despite the fact that Mr. Sunshine is an ass... The two craft is but is not a biplane. Together they are a joined flight configuration. Apart speaks for itself. I can see your point though.
No , the An-225 with the Soviet Buran Shuttle would be a little bigger. I was fortunate to see them in air display in 1989.
@Mr Sunshines You sound kinda mad that someone tried to find a funny technicality. I would highly recommend reconsidering whats important enough to get mad about in your life.
I hope you figure out how fix your anger problems and be happier :)
100k likes reached, now for the hours long video !!!
I just want that model airplane.
Me too
I remember being 9 and standing out in the playground at school here in Glasgow, Scotland on 6 June 1983 watching Enterprise being piggy backed on one of the 747s. I remember having a toy 747 and a toy shuttle and using an elastic band to put them together after that. Great memories and thanks for the video..
I remember watching the test flight in 1977. I was just 7 years old at the time and remember thinking to myself that that was really cool. My eyes were glued to the tv during the whole test.
I remember this! Superman saved everybody in the end
The NotFlat Earth You just unlocked a memory that I didn’t know I had.
Geez you trolls get around....Earth is flat and space is fake.
Tranquility Pyramids You are hilarious. Good joke.
@@billyk1334 I never joke. Space only exists in your imagination. You saw it on TV.
Dude make that space shuttle video, that would be so dope. EVERYONE NUKE THAT LIKE BUTTON!
Today we're going to learn how Cessnas are made.
lol , when a mummy space shuttle and a daddy 747 have some us time in a hanger
@@888johnmac What if daddy wants to be the Space Shuttle?
The 747 is the most beautiful and perfectly proportioned passenger airliner ever made. It is a stunningly beautiful aircraft. Perfection!
A small Mobile Training Team from Lowry AFB CO developed and taught contractor technicians how to utilize strain gauges when the initial Shuttle/747 load testing was being conducted at Edwards AFB CA. Air Force NCOs , not officers or engineers, taught Missile Electronics Instrumentation to airmen assigned to laboratories and research and development centers. These young airmen were major players in Gemini, Apollo, and the Shuttle programs. I was honored to be the Course Supervisor at the Technical Training Center in Denver CO.
why are they called "cheat lines"?
On a car it is normally the tape stripe that divides two different body paint colors. The tape covers imperfections in the border between the colors. Not sure about aircraft. Hard to believe that a line that big would be tape. Hopefully an expert will chime in.
@@jnichols3 I am no expert but masking is used in most aircraft paint shops and part of that is the use of tape to mask smaller areas as shown in the video at the following link ruclips.net/video/RYyPvXIgKX0/видео.html
The paint line masks the windows on the lower deck, making the plane look sleeker.
Thanks everyone!
Thanks for the responses.
Fun fact: the SCA in this video was disassembled and reassembled to Boeing standards and it technically able to be certified airworthy. 😀
Except who want's to fly a 747-100 anymore.
Ehm... It hasn't been maintained for years... So it's as air worthy as the shuttle on top.
Must I remind you it's an mockup?
100k likes. Get to it!
Yeah a year later lol. He probably forgot at this point.
Saw it flying over Toronto 1979 Awesome moment. Belfastie visiting Canada.
I was working on the Space Shuttle program at that time. It was an amazing experience working with the brilliant folks on the program, I wasn’t one of the smart ones, I was your basic grunt, trash can emptier, floor sweeper and window cleaner
Alright over 103.000 likes it is :D Waiting for the video out of the cockpit :)
I live a few miles from Kennedy let's toss back some beers at Grill's Tiki Bar
1:16 you meant to say liquid hydrogen, not liquid nitrogen
My parents lived in Cape Canaveral. Later I lived in Melbourne. My parents would go to the beach and watch the plane fly by with the piggyback space shuttle. I got to work launches, selling the souvenirs, then they let us close up and watch the launch. I’d then drive to my parent’s place and by the time I got there the shuttle would be over Africa. I could hear the double sonic boom of the shuttle landing at my house, too. All great memories.
Thank you Captain Joe for putting this up. I have seen several videos at remote controlled plane air shows where a few people have built models of the Boeing airplane that carried a model of the shuttle and after several passes around the area where the viewers were at, the shuttle was released and glided back down to the runway. I have been a fan of space since I was 3 years old and my dad took me to his friend who was an amateur radio operator and he was able to tune in to the beeps sent back by Sputnik.
Who else got to see it fly overhead? 🤷🏼♂️
Me, right over my house!
I sure loved the sound of those old engines!
/^\inutemen/^\edia I saw it orbit Washington D.C.
@@mikebeacom4883 that's awesome. I was able to see it in Socal and i also saw it from Mt Diablo summit as it flew over dublin Ca.
I saw it fly over Glasgow in 1980?
Challenger flying out of Edward's after Columbia landed!
"Reusuble" is a bit of a misnomer when it cane to the space shuttle. Much of the space craft had to be refurbished at great expense which is one of the reasons it was eventually retired (well, that and the two accidents which cost the lives of its astronauts). While it was a feat of engineering, it was also doomed from the beginning as the Space Shuttle was meant to be part of a larger system hence the name STS or Space Transport System. That system was shrunk significantly due to Congress cutting its budget during the 70s and 80s leaving only the Shuttle with no where to go until the ISS came along. The idea was to have dozens of flights per year, but due to the aforementioned complexities of the design, esp. the large number of customized heat tiles, that plan never materialized. Instead, the number of flights per year had to be cut back significantly due the high turn-around time.
I was living and working in the DC area in the early 2010s when I saw the final flight of the 747 with the Space Shuttle on top. It did a fly over the Capitol which was very cool.
Technically, it was mostly reused hardware (only the orange tank was dumped despite being designed to be recovered), but man-rating and its associated sever security constrains necessitated to actually dismantle the whole thing each time, including engines that were completely inspected and refurbished in advance at a separate factory.
When sending peoples in space, no one plays fool with security. And that why as of today there still is no plan for reusable space hardware to ferry peoples to space (nope, sorry for Musk's fanboy, but the Crew Dragon will only be used once with astronauts, then will be flown for cargo, and manned flights will always use a brand new Falcon 9 booster).
I remember when they flew it into Dulles, I lived in Manassas right below the approach path and just by chance happened to be outside that night when it flew over at low altitude with its escorts. That image is still burned into my mind to this day, it was the craziest thing to see by chance as a kid.
@@Damien.D You are so sure. But nothing is set into a stone. I think that once the reliability of Crew Dragon is confirmed they can use it more than once for manned flights.
Captain: "Ludicrous speed, NOW!".
Flight engineer: flicks on Orbiter main engines.
747: OMG #@!
Congratulate yourself Captain Joe, this is a wonderful and informative video.👍🏽
Great video! One note, the SCA was initially planned to be used to transport the Orbiter between the factory, Kennedy, and Vandenberg, the second planned launch site. This second site was scrapped after the Challenger accident. The SCA would also be used to return the Orbiter from alternative landing sites! Please keep making these great videos!
This is awesome! I think that CJ channel is the best in my subscriptions!
Joe, in Moscow we have museum of BURAN ( russian space shuttle ), and the history is that REAL BURAN and his prototype us still standing in Baikonour's secret hangar ( there are several videos from russian guys, check them out ).
You can visit russian museum of BURAN & Cosmonautics, and make video about it))
And BURAN,s carrier AN-225 - largest cargo plane in the world.
Are you referring to the museum at VDNH? or there's some other Buran dedicated museum?
@@ci7alex1 Yep, Buran at VDNKH, and The museum of cosmonautics near the VDNKH
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I feel as a species we have regressed so much, lost the ability to fly to the moon, retired supersonic passenger aircraft, retired the space shuttle.
U need to take a few steps back to make a leap forward
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Absolutely amazing.
Side note: Is it even possible to get into Atlantis' cockpit at Kennedy Space Centre? It is suspended in the air.
From what I understand and have heard in another video with Adam Savage (Mythbusters fame), he was at KSC in Florida doing a video about the Shuttle with a NASA Museum curator and the curator stated that NOBODY is allowed inside the Shuttle due to the floor actually being too delicate to support actual human weight. Since you are weightless in space, there isn't a load applied to the floor and it was never designed to support weight...also was a factor in reducing the weight of the Shuttle.
@@j.scottcaudill7543 Then how did they get inside?I think you mean the payload bay.
@@MrSlim1959 negative...I meant what I said. There are just a few rigid structural beams in the floor area of the cockpit and you need to carefully stand/walk on those in order to get into your seat 💺
@@j.scottcaudill7543 i think that the lightest intern at nasa could make an inside tour for vr or ar
My dad used to build the space shuttle. We went to ALL the air shows. I’ve seen this land in person and also got to tour a shuttle. It was pretty cool as a child.
Watched her fly over a high rise in Sacramento CA and got some great pics. It was a awesome sight!
Thats like R2D2 version of Jack and Rose Titanic scene.
At 01:16, The space shuttle used liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen not liquid nitrogen.
Good thing pilots only need physics and not a lot of chemistry
@@brofights3138 hahaha
JOE, it’s great to see you post new videos more often like you used to! Long haul flights and a girlfriend have been limiting your time, eh? 🤙
I recall this visiting the UK in 1983. I saw it pass overhead Birmingham city centre at quite low level due to the piss awful weather that day. It did be pass and was gone into the murk. Heck of a sight
I've visited the Space Center last year in August and also booked the tour. When I arrived there and the group was ready to begin the tour literally the hell broke loose. The employees there said that this was possibly the worst thunderstorm they had (excluding Hurricanes) and they cancelled all other tours later that day. Even though I had the chance to explore the 747 and the Space Shuttle and it was an amazing feeling and experience.
I never realized you was a first officer lol 😂
I like how we just put it on a 747, meanwhile the Russians made some oversized 6 engine cargo plane for theirs. Like our little power house 747 did it!
Edward Myers it was a heavily modified 747 not “just put it on a 747” . The Russians modified the existing Antonov 124.
@@user-ky6vw5up9m Dont forget that the Soviet shuttle was bigger and more powerfull. But he forgot to mention that.
And I bet you that the 225 was better at its job then the 747 was.
@@adamhlali8106 That's why they're still in use today?
Russian version was a modified an-124, a 4 engine heavy carrier. It was needed because of the size and the need of tailwings and the an225 was HELLA COOL
Sun 225 was made to carry the buran, there is almost no other cargo that requires that kind of plane so they use the 124 mostly. That 747 also is not in use, i mean the version used to carry the shuttle. Yours was a weird comparison.
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You are right. We were proud to be working on the Shuttle program. People often ask how you get into such work? There are many contractors building many parts on a project that big. I was lucky enough to work for two. Just the right place at the right time. Most of us who worked such programs are now retired, but we will always great memories of what we accomplished, and great regret for our failures, even those we had no responsibility for.
My late grandfather, Vic Horton, was 905's original flight engineer from the start of the Shuttle program until his retirement after the Challenger (STS-51L) disaster in 1986. He also designed the auxiliary stabilizers on the tail and the crew escape systems (the 747 wasn't originally going to have them) in case the Enterprise collided with 905's vertical tail during the Approach & Landing Tests.
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Is it just me or did that car back there drive backwards? 5:28
Hello Joe can you do a video on the truly amazing Antonov AN-225 please? This was also built to carry a space shuttle but has had an incredible history and is now flying around the world as a giant cargo carrier. I know there are plenty of other videos on the plane but it would be great if it got the Captain Joe treatment!
Now it is sadly dystroyed
ALWAYS A PLEASURE WATCHING YOUR VIDS. VERY INFORMATIVE!!!!
Also, when there’s a will, there’s a way! And never give up! That’s what this video reminds me of!
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Imagine going to that space museum seeing a weirdo wearing a pilot suit without flying an aircraft filming himself.
Psychopath and calling himself a captain, when in fact he's not. Now you know why many people in the industry can't stand this guy.
Thank you for talking about John Kiker. Not only was he a brilliant engineer but he could communicate with the average person in ordinary language; a rare skill for people so gifted. I got him to make his presentation and show the original films of the models at a couple of model airplane clubs near JSC. The original landing site was Edwards so transportation back to the Cape was part of the original plan. There was also the need to test glide the orbiter several times before launching so the 747 was used long before the first launch. There were other plans floating around JSC including shipping by ocean ($1.1MIL US/day for 14 days) and flying it on its own airframe as you mentioned. That would have meant stopping for fuel every 400 miles and beating the airframe up while flying it through the atmosphere for hours on end on its undersized wings. The flight on a 747 to the Cape cost about $100,000 US when it was started. John was an accomplished aerobatic pilot. He got to sit in the right seat of the 747 with the orbiter on its back and take the controls in flight before he left this world. He also designed every parachute that brought an American back from space on an American spacecraft through the end of the STS program. He also came up with the idea to build the red, white and blue chute shown in the test glide footage.
I was there a couple of years ago and it was incredible! Enjoyed every minute of it esp being inside the 747 and the shuttle. Wow!
A stand out episode, Captn Joe! This highlights your all-things aviation enthusiasm to a 'T'! And a very good presentation of the visuals and the history of the 747 as shuttle carrier. If you ever get to Seattle do NOT miss the Museum of Flight and the Crew Compartment tour. This is a test article of a whole shuttle mock up but the crew compartment is the real thing. AND every shuttle crew trained in it. The rest of the place is amazing (there's a Concorde parked outside...) but that experience was stirring.