I Spent 24 HOURS Learning ASH In Paladins!
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- I decided to ONLY play Ash for a day in paladins and this is what happened...
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As a frontline main, yes it is painful being the center of attraction and it's even harder when you're a Raum or Yagorath with many counters and you can't do anything about it. Also yeah, I keep getting on matches too where the other team are pros and my teammates are just newbies... I hate the matchmaking in Paladins, it's not well balanced.
I mean, you shouldn't ever point-tank with Yag, like Khan. Raum can sorta do it but not really. Yag is just a Flank with a big health pool, but an even bigger Hitbox. And their defense ability makes them more vulnerable in most situations. Rush down their backline and cause mayhem
Had a game today were first guy picked ying and then second guy picked grohk i picked raum and 4th guy took zhin and the smart 5th guy took io. They all said they playing healer. Zhin wasn’t flanking at all just standing on the side staring at their healer and the other three healers on my team in a 3-4 game had a combined 60k healing
I'm Terminus main, and you really don't know how right you are saying we are miserable. But awsome job with Ash. Respect
Well you gotta shoot the right people during the chaos. Help your healer soften the flank on them or make the enemy healer reposition instead of tickling the enemy tank
This is a nice series! I look forward to your videos (like always) ☺️
I'm glad!
for ash pointtank, you can play it with batteling ram or fortress breaker, the latter one is a lot simpler, and if you play the 2. one.
1. place shield
2. when shield goes out give knockback (legit just there to reset your shield cooldown)
3.repeat
also, if you play fortress braker, in mid-lategame shield yourself while in ult and you need heals, not cause you can die, but cause you get out of caut:
And for ashes best talent, they are pretty much all similar, sllugshot is definitely more fun, but it's not necessarily a lot better than the other talents. Also, ash can play pointtank ^^
About slows, ash doesn't really give a shit, about stuns, she hella does. Unbound doesn'T really help since it's about the dash, but she actually doesn'T get hardcountered by it. You just need to play around it (there are quite some ways to do that)
honestly i recommend playing with friends if your getting noobs that dont turn around everytime to vgs "enemies behind us" spam
I wish you had gotten to play with a point tank. That's when Ash is enjoyable.
I frontline main and your sentiments are on point...but also I don't think most players realize how frustrating playing a frontline can be either...up to HiRez to make them more fun at this point.
Ash is great. My main tankn since years
Keep trying tanks you will realize your pain
Do nexte one mal'damba 24 h pls
I'm doing this from A-Z sadly 😂
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I kinda got a love hate relationship with ash i love playing her but i hate playing agenst her, her ult is so fucking annoying bro.
Also if you need any help with these A to Z vids i could help
You miss her best Item which is morale boost. You should rush it every game. Also, fortress breaker is her worst talent. And great thing to do when you must go back is placing you shield in direction that you will go and walking back with it. It make you harder to hit from sides and delete problem with shields going lower than you and stop being cover like we saen on shattered desert.
I'd actually say her charge talent is her worst, despite being a solid talent. She doesn't really have a bad talent
Also, point tank Ash should absolutely not rush Morale Boost, that's dumb AF. Off tank sure, works great
@@techwizsmith7963 Ash shouldn't be point tank, and i absolutely love charge talent. Also world's best Ash playing ram in almost every case. Only think u must change is that isn't escape ability. It's mostly a weapon
@@KudlatyV2 As an Off tank, you're right. I've played as and against an absolute ton of Point-tank Ashes, Ash works great as a point tank if you know what you're doing. And on point tank, yes, her charge talent is the worst. As off tank, it's her best, while the shield talent is the worst. But all are still good. I consistently outperform my entire team as point-ash, I know what I'm talking about
@@techwizsmith7963 but she is still weaker than any point tank, lack of dps, dr and no flexible shield don't give her any chance aginist point tank. Ok i can agree, in casuals it might works if u better than enemy tank but if u in you elo its basically gg, can buy some time but not win. Better way is to use this bonus dps (if enemy have main tank and u not is some advantage in offence) and try to kill backline asap.
Stealing ideas are we squiddy
New here?
get help bro.
@@landxxx1 put on some knee pads, it'll help with the bruising
@@CoDrNoooWhy, are you planning on falling for me?
Before you come here accusing me of "Stealing" do some research first because SO MANY other youtubers have done this. I also did this A-Z challenge back in 2022, do some research lil squiddy 💀
I feel sorry for your poor soul. That character is probably the worst in the game.
whaat ? she just sucks as a point tank, but shes fine as an off tank
That's the problem with paladins, when people see you lock in a tank they just go straight to something else. I've immediately clicked tanks like Torvald just so someone else would pick a point tank and no one ever does
Everyone gotta go double flank or double Dps in casual smh
@@techwizsmith7963 that isn't even a bad thing, i've come to the conclusion after hearing all the top players thoughts that double tank (1 point 1 off) is ideal, alongside either double support or double dps. So two is fine but when everyone makes a mad dash to koga, vatu, vora etc. because they're the "cool" characters you end up just getting sh*t on the whole match lol
I've played a lot of Main-tank Ash, here's what I've come to learn
Your first map was rough. You kinda can't play point ash on Mill, way better to dance between off and point with Slug Shot. Disrupt their backline on that bigass high ground, help your flank get in, then turn around and dive point
Shield reset is absolutely absurd when they have a proper point tank too. The more sustain they have, the more you have. Kinetic Burst has a way lower cooldown than Shield, and it ends up making that your new shield cooldown.
She gets a life rip card that goes up to 50%. Because she has so little damage. You don't need it at 50 if you're confident in your support, you're gonna be behind a shield so much that you'll basically never be in caut. Always have it at max for off tank, it's so good
Monitor how fast your health is going down, your escape tool has a wind-up. It's always better to pussy out than to die, much less downtime to get back on point
Her ult charges really fast, and you will never be able to kill someone solo with it. Use it to turn their support off at the start of a fight, hopefully your dps or flank can actually take advantage of it and kill them but even if they don't that's a whole lotta downtime that the enemy support can't heal their point tank
Roleplay her. It's stupid, I know, but the best way to play her is to lean into her personality. Get right up in their faces and bully them, they can't do shit to stop you from throwing them around like trash (unless they wanna waste a ton of credits to reduce your knockback, but that doesn't stop your shield reset)
It can be really funny to walk behind the enemy tank and throw them into your team, then slap a shield behind them so their support doesn't have LoS. You stay on point, you can defend and still get healed. They kinda can't. Also a great way to force out their escape tool since it'll usually have a way longer cooldown than your Burst, which also served a second purpose of resetting your shield
Your last shot is for Burst, do not fire it and then be caught reloading when your shield goes down. If you don't have a good target for it, start walking towards cover before your shield drops and you're completely caught out
Dude just don't play main tank ash. She's a dive off tank. Point Tank Ash is trolling against decent players. HP card Lvl 3-5 and 50% Lifesteal is always needed in your loadout. Her shield really isn't good for point tanking. It's just a side ability to enable push for yourself. You do not use it for your team.
You can go through her shield with ease just ignore it and go around her, the shield isn't all that except two maps: ice mines and jaguar falls. Slug Shot and Battering Ram are overall more efficient and reliable so why run a shield talent or shield spam loadout that makes her play passive when she's a dive character.
@@a.k.axurai5678 The enemy tank can walk through your shield, sure, but if their entire team can walk to and through point for free then it's your team trolling, not point ash. Same can generally be said about Barik, yes?
You 100% don't need max life steal when you're on point, you have a main healer shoved up your ass. If you play around their tank well, you can drop out of caut and they can heal you up easily. I don't think I even run her health card, though admittedly I should. I just enjoy her big knockback on burst, it's funny. I'm not super worried if they buy sentinel against it, that's credits they're not spending to counter the rest of my team
There are absolutely tanks that counter a point-Ash, but most of them aren't point tanks themselves and can't easily hold against your Dps. The main contenders for hard counters are Nando and Term, and they are rather popular in ranked so I can understand why you'd think she's a weak point tank. She's off-meta, which I understand is a cardinal sin for you
@@techwizsmith7963 She isn't off meta. She is a dive off tank. period.
@@a.k.axurai5678 Sounds like you're just bad with her ;)
@@techwizsmith7963 im not lmao. i actually understand her. point tank ash is throwing and easy. actually play her as she is designed. your elo is garbage if point tank ash works. Stop watching Kirbz who is a casual player and watch Zarini a pro good frontline player who knows how to ash. Everyone who's decent at frontline knows that Ash should not be on point. Take your clown takes in your casual elo.
As someone that mainly plays support and point tanks I relate so much. You gotta stay on point and alive while everyone is hitting you and when you lose the point everyone complains lol.
And your conclusion is very true! No matter what you do and how much you hold the point you don't have enough damage to make tons of kills unless your teammates do their job. Being tank isn't as easy!
as someone who also mains support and tank thats what i really like about the tanks, being in the middle of chaos trying to survive
Guys that's not how you play frontline. The point is for you to take damage for the team and create space whether it be off point or on point. You should never point bot. Your point tank stays on point depending on the comp especially the support you have. Otherwise your point tank also pushes up unless it's a team reliant main support. For example a rei, corvus, lilith, combat medic pip are reliant on team when they go main healer. If you have enough experience with those champions you'll know why they can't push point by themselves. As soon as they targeted they are an easy kill unless you go their off support talents. Rei and Lilith best talents are both decent for dealing damage and healing at the same time but they rely on healing teammates to heal themselves. They always need peek to heal others especially corvus. To heal players who push up he needs someone to heal at all times.
@@a.k.axurai5678I just main damba, best support, good stun, decent dmg and good escape
6:36 yes there are actually several champs u can stun mid or at begging of movement ability like ash, khan, tiberius etc. and ur putting them on cool down
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Just telling me what i already know. DPS loses games. not the healer, not the tank. and the worst part is they are completely unaware
if the DPS are relying on healers to save them it's because they are out of position and not landing their shots.
but it doesn't stop their 6/15/7 44k damage asses from flaming you.
Rough times trying to solo with off-tank. Best to make sure point-tank is covered. It's a fill role like dps support. Also, I feel your pain playing with noobs that aren't playing their roles well.
This is why I don't play Ash. She has a point tank kit, but it doesn't work.
as an ash my movement ability makes me a better flank unfortunately
As a tank main, i relate to your frustation in the end..
Kirbzm 💯
I like Ash a lot but she is clunky. Charge to shoulder bash. Charge to knockback with ammo. Ult you can get knocked or grabbed out.
I think just get rid of or greatly reduce charge time. And give her CC res in ult. Or maybe immune to stuns and displacement.
Maybe make Kinetic burst a free hit, and like an "attack reset". Primary, knockback, primary midair.
I wouldn't call it clunky personally, you just gotta get used to the timings. I'd call Atlas Clunky despite enjoying him, the lock outs on every ability and animation hurt me
9:28 nice ult
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I've uninstalled paladins forever. Too many bugs, afks, toxic people, balances are shit in this game. They buff Lian, they buff vii then nerf him like what was the point in the first place? Where buff terminus, where true nerfs like Cassie. I moved to ow2 and it's funnier to me, yeah no load out items or talent but it's better in my opinion, not all this crap that makes the game stupid with "creativity"
I was with you until you said OW was better balanced. That's so fucking funny
@@techwizsmith7963 only widow maker one shots in ha, not even hanzo or mcree
@@Chommy-up2on Hog, Sigma, Most Dps with a Mercy, Zen
Sure, it's not **technically** one shot, but it might as well be with how much you can react to it
@@techwizsmith7963 hog needs close range, easy counterable, sigma (I play him a lot) has limited range and easy escapable. I can say orisa is op, I would have said it instead of the 2 you mentioned
@@Chommy-up2on You have not played against a proper hog, I'm not sure I can respect your opinions enough to continue this debate
"Hog needs to get close" is cracking me up big time