INVERTED "L" ANTENNAS ` some neat Options and a Unique Trick!

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
  • The inverted "L" antenna has been one of the oldest and most popular antennas, particularly for the lower frequency ham bands. Peter G3OJV, takes a look at this antenna and highlights the many options for installing and feeding this antenna. One particular option is a unique way of feeding this antenna from the far end rather than from the base.
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  • @Dan-56
    @Dan-56 2 месяца назад +2

    The idea of feeding a vertical from the top always reminds me of the ones I saw in a HOA neighborhood. Two different length (1/4 wave) wires hanging down from a large oak tree limb, each with a dog bone insulator and a bird feeder attached below it to help hold it taught. Two coax runs went up the tree and out the limb to feed each vertical from the top. A clever and inconspicuous antenna installation. 73 de Dan WD4DB

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад +1

      Interesting! Let's hope the birds did not suffer from excessive RF exposure!

  • @robinbrown7019
    @robinbrown7019 2 месяца назад +10

    You by fair have the best ham videos on the internet

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад +4

      Nice to get your support. 73 Peter

  • @mikewalsh511
    @mikewalsh511 2 месяца назад +4

    Best instructor to explain it all very clearly. Thank you again.

  • @wshanney
    @wshanney 18 дней назад

    Great idea Peter. Thanks and 73...W6QR

  • @Alvin-we3mt
    @Alvin-we3mt 2 месяца назад

    Very useful! Thanks, Peter.

  • @mikesmith5139
    @mikesmith5139 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for yet another excellent tutorial Peter. I have never thought of this configuration. Very welcome ideas! 73, Mike. M0MTJ

  • @user-yt7cg8kf9z
    @user-yt7cg8kf9z 2 месяца назад

    Nice video, thank you,I constructed an "L" antenna using lengths of 4 meters and 2.5 meters combined with a 9:1 or 49:1 balun, and it's performing exceptionally well across all bands including 80M band, having good height of 13m

  • @tamstutz921
    @tamstutz921 2 месяца назад +1

    Wonderful, useful information presented with class.

  • @tlebryk
    @tlebryk 2 месяца назад +1

    Wonderful idea! I would never have thought of this. ❤

  • @Kinetic79
    @Kinetic79 2 месяца назад +2

    When feeding from the upper floor window (with either a 49:1 or 9:1 located well above earth), with the radiating element going horizontal for a ways and then making the downward turn towards the grass out in the lawn/garden, you're suggesting that you might actually want to connect that radiating element (i.e., energized by the center pin of the coax) to a ground rod? Or you're suggesting that you would rather put radials at the ground level that are not actually connected to the antenna element itself (since the ground terminal is upstairs--either at the unun or at/near the radio)? While I'm not in the UK, thanks for your contributions to the hobby there commercially & otherwise, and in non-commercial form to those of us elsewhere!

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад

      Direct coax feed only at bass centre to element. For end feed the radials attach to antenna bass.

  • @ROBByJONEs-2
    @ROBByJONEs-2 2 месяца назад

    TY Peter what a wonderfull article you published..im tryin this .. 73 Sir

  • @xenia5101
    @xenia5101 Месяц назад

    Good explanations, thanks very much

  • @ka4dqe606
    @ka4dqe606 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video and great topic. Thanks much. Subscribed. Cheers from Florida, USA ...

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад +1

      Welcome aboard! Regards to you in Florida.

  • @philipdoherty2072
    @philipdoherty2072 2 месяца назад

    Brilliant video, thank you.very interesting.

  • @Steve-GM0HUU
    @Steve-GM0HUU 2 месяца назад

    👍Thanks for video.

  • @brianfields4479
    @brianfields4479 2 месяца назад

    Great video on a great ant. If fed at the base, it's a great dx ant and very quiet on rx. Apparently there is 2000 ft in a average house hi.
    I've use a inv L on 80m, it goes really well, even at 7m, as mine was.
    73 zl3xdj

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад

      Thanks Brian. I guess we can add copper piping for central heating to that figure!! 73 Peter

  • @JayN4GO
    @JayN4GO 2 месяца назад

    I run a 80m efhw like this. It’s a cloud burner compared to the inverted V for 80. The noise level is very quiet on 40,20,15. I’ve used it on 160m as well but it’s not good there at all. I plan to revisit the orientation at higher max current elevations.

  • @stevemahonphoto
    @stevemahonphoto 2 месяца назад +1

    Another great video. Can this be fed with ladder line.

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад +2

      From top possibly but interesting experimental project.

  • @robertvandersanden
    @robertvandersanden 2 месяца назад

    If you create a way to disconnect the antenna wire from the low earthed point and raise it a little then it becomes a true efhw which resonates on harmonics. The same antenna construction can then do 40/15m but also 20 by simply disconnecting the bottom.
    I have a similar situation with a 40m efhw as inverted L, fed at the top with a 49:1. If I drop it down a little and add a few radials it resonates on 80m. I never optimized or used it as such but it does work.

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад

      Yes I was looking at that possibility but have nit had a chance to see whether the grounded resonant length on 40m translates perfectly to 20m when open circuit. In other words dies 7MHz become 14MHz or perhaps 14.4MHz etc.

    • @robertvandersanden
      @robertvandersanden 2 месяца назад +1

      @@watersstanton there is a good chance that the resonance is a bit off but that can be solved by either leaving a bit of the wire on the ground side, ie. have the disconnect slightly up the vertical section, or make the ground connection a little up the verticale wire, leaving a short unused stub in grounded configuration which adds a bit of length to the antenna in open config.
      An option to draw a simple sketch in a YT comment would be such a handy feature 😀
      Another thing I noticed when measuring the SWR over freq is that an inverted L doesn’t really give a good dip at harmonics, only on the base frequency. Maybe because of the L shape, a straight efhw gives a more pronounced dip at harmonics.

    • @Steve-GM0HUU
      @Steve-GM0HUU 2 месяца назад

      I was wondering if you could add an extra band using a trap? For example, would adding a 20m trap just above the ground connection effectively disconnect it from ground on 20m?

  • @jerrycahill2447
    @jerrycahill2447 2 месяца назад

    Hi Peter, love your videos but why do you draw the antenna as two pieces of wire. Confusing for newbies.

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад

      Good point! Will join them next time.

  • @wildbill1
    @wildbill1 2 месяца назад +1

    throw down some fence wire for your radials ive done it and it works rather well

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад

      Yes provided it can be sunk so that it is not a hazard when walking over it.

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад

      Yes a good option.

  • @TheTim16964
    @TheTim16964 2 месяца назад +1

    Is it illegal to put an antenna in the yard in England? I always hear everyone talking about putting antennas up in gardens. Wouldn't you have more room in the yard?

    • @pixeluser175
      @pixeluser175 2 месяца назад +1

      @TheTim16964 Yards are forbidden in England. Waters and Stanton advice Scotland Yard to put an inverted L in.

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  2 месяца назад +1

      In the UK we refer to our house outside space as "gardens." In the USA you refer to them as yards. .

    • @TheTim16964
      @TheTim16964 2 месяца назад

      @watersstanton that makes sense, my question seems kind of silly now 🤭

  • @bodstrup
    @bodstrup 2 месяца назад

    If you ever heard a ham from Australia - you know the antenna can be fed from the top 😂

  • @jerryKB2GCG
    @jerryKB2GCG 2 месяца назад

    Mmmm….1/4 wave on 20M…might be workable for POTA

  • @OJ71081
    @OJ71081 2 месяца назад

    Not completely relevant to the topic under discussion but; I notice your digital pianos in the room you film in. I've recently been dabbling in 10m FM both simplex and via repeaters. Anyway after I put a call out on a repeater i could hear a bit of feedback/echo. Strange I thought, why can i hear my voice coming out of the speakers? I don't have the monitor facility turned on. Even more strange the power light on my digital piano is on, I'm sure I didn't turn the piano on, very strange! I turned to he piano off and carried on calling on the KQ2H repeater, but hang on I can hear myself again, the piano is turned on again too. It seems transmitting in FM on the 10m band is turning my piano on and my voice is coming out of the piano's speakers.
    Easily remedied by turning the piano off at the mains, but thought you might find it funny! 73

  • @jerryKB2GCG
    @jerryKB2GCG 2 месяца назад

    inverted L vs pure vertical ?

  • @robertallbright
    @robertallbright 2 месяца назад

    Definitely the best👍
    Robert G3RCE