Oh my! Another wish granted 🎉 I hope YT's algorithm puts you on top whenever someone looks for bass mixing as this is the most comprehensive tutorial showing different approaches for different genres!
@@spinlightstudios Definitely! I think the biggest take away I have is to make sure the DI sounds good in the first place and pick up a pick if you need one! hahaha
Haha that’s it, there is so much importance in getting a good source tone, makes mixing easier and more enjoyable to be honest. I’ve been mixing a troublesome vocal recording today (was sent to me) and it’s been a real challenge to get it to sound right, lots of plosives and proximity effect and I’m just thinking, I wish they just came to the studio and recorded it properly haha so yes, very important to get a good sound while tracking!
@@spinlightstudios What do you do in that case? Do you tell the artist to re-record the vocals or try to salvage what you can? Another thing - you said in the vid that you track the bass through and opto or 76, may I ask what does the chain look like? Is it Bass > Sans Amp > Some sort of pre? > opto/76?
@@edwardkenemorales most cases it’s just do the best you can! Sometimes you have to perform a miracle haha Yes pretty much what you said: Bass > sansamp/di> preamp > compressor > interface
2 week update - Squier P bass acquired 🤣 It's dead simple and sounds like a record, why did I ever use anything else. Only thing better would be a Fender.
@@ringomaharaj1268 I usually capture a di and some sort of bass preamp or bass head type thing simultaneously! But sometimes when I’m moving quick I’ll just plug the bass straight in and just use that.
I started learning to play bass not long ago. I wanted to be able to lay down live basslines for my own tunes (I make D+B, and really like the old live sounding organic D+B tracks from the 90's like Roni Size stuff as an example). I built a few bits of hardware specifically for recording and mixing my bass (specifically with giving me the most options in mind). I built a 3 mode DI with a FET/Tube and a clean transformer only input (the FET input sounds money on my bass), a vari-mu compressor/limiter (I'm also building an opto compressor soon for it too, for when I learn to play a bit better and can control the dynamics of my playing a bit more myself) and an old Neumann EQ clone which sounds sooooo dam good (I'm already wanting to build more of them as I've never heard a mix focused EQ that sounds so dang good, it blows my SSL E292 clones from the original SL4000G desk out the water!). It's only got 3 bands (and only the mid has adjustable frequency), but it has 5 DOAs in it lol (all with matched transistors)! I also built a 3 mode saturation box with varying types and intensities of distortion available. I'm thinking about getting a new mic and an amp to record to give me even more tone possibilities. I can also re-amp from my DI, so would be able to run anything through it to the amp and mic if I really wanted. *Any suggestions of a good mic for recording bass amps?* I'll probably be going for a really deep fat tone, rather than a more low-mid/upper low end heavy rock style tone. Something that would work well in a jazz style of playing might be good as they really lean on the deep lows of the bass quite often in jazz. I ofc still want some presence, but the low end of DnB is ofc the focus of the track, so it tends to get more space than in rock etc as well as generally going lower too, and small speakers are less of a concern as it's main playing environment is a club/rave (even though I still want it heard on small speakers, it's just not the main focus and getting the low lows right is the most important, hence why I'll be running the lower 4 strings of a low B 5 string on my bass next time I change strings ;P). Ta in advance!
@@spinlightstudios Nice one! That makes a lot of sense actually. And there's a few U47fet clone DIY kits floating about too what's ideal for me. There's also a bunch of documentation on how to build your own without buying a kit, and I might go down that route as it's cheaper, and you can get way closer to the original neumann one that way as the kits are often simplified (which isn't always a bad thing, but could be in some cases). Mics are the one area I hardly know anything about lol, other than the basic types and pick up patterns (although I'm constantly trying to leaen more) . These's a few I know really really well from past jobs (hence hearing that broken SM58 instantly lol), as they're all we would use (courperate gigs), but I've never done live band work as I'm on the electronic dance side of music mostly and very little recording work (which I'm trying to change). I'll let you know if I end up building one and how it sounds 👍. Thanks.
Thanks mate. The Q appears when you have multiple channels set to a group and have them Phase Locked. The Q stands for which tracks determine quantizing when using flextime. If that’s hard to understand, you could watch my how to flextime drums video, I explain it in there I think 🤔
@spinlightstudios Oh wow okay that makes perfect sense! It's crazy I've been using Logic for a couple years now and no one has ever mentioned this. Thanks for the quick response you're the man! I subscribed earlier today, and I'm gonna binge all your videos for sure.
Wow, super helpful video, many thanks! Question for you- in your opinion, can you get the same results using these techniques to mix a VST bass guitar? I’m struggling with my bass mixes, but in many of my cases, I am mixing Bass VST instruments. Just wanting to see if that would make a difference in the mix quality at the end of the day. Thx
Thanks! I know plenty of people who use midi bass and get great results, but mostly they are working on heavier styles of music. I think the trick is to play with the velocity’s to try and get it to sound a little more human. And picking the right vst tone so you don’t actually need to mix it too much, try and find a tone that is very close to what you like.
Should the low end of the punchy bass be going through the amp on the bus like this? I've seen other people recommend the DI is left untouched, besides compression?
There’s no rules! What ever sounds best. For me, If I have a processed signal like a sansamp preamp and a clean di - i like to blend them and then process them together - this minimizes the chances of phase issues too.
@spinlightstudios Thanks man! Only recently discovered your channel and loving it. Planning on sitting down to do the indie rock mix tutorial with your multi tracks when I have a minute.
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Absolutely!
would love a video on how you processed the guitars in that starfish song, they sound great!
U're doing your job very well dude! Thanks
Thanks mate!
Well, done! Thank you for covering the process for those of us mixing songs in our home. This is so relatable and helpful.
Glad you found it helpful mate!
Good bass tones. And as soon you unsolo that buss, those full mixes are sounding great too!
Thanks mate!
I stopped by for the Sanszampy 😂 loved it!!
More good stuff. Thanks again sir!
I’m gonna have starfish stuck in my head tonight😂😂
Haha so catchy 😂
Oh my! Another wish granted 🎉 I hope YT's algorithm puts you on top whenever someone looks for bass mixing as this is the most comprehensive tutorial showing different approaches for different genres!
Hope you get something useful out of it!
@@spinlightstudios Definitely! I think the biggest take away I have is to make sure the DI sounds good in the first place and pick up a pick if you need one! hahaha
Haha that’s it, there is so much importance in getting a good source tone, makes mixing easier and more enjoyable to be honest. I’ve been mixing a troublesome vocal recording today (was sent to me) and it’s been a real challenge to get it to sound right, lots of plosives and proximity effect and I’m just thinking, I wish they just came to the studio and recorded it properly haha so yes, very important to get a good sound while tracking!
@@spinlightstudios What do you do in that case? Do you tell the artist to re-record the vocals or try to salvage what you can? Another thing - you said in the vid that you track the bass through and opto or 76, may I ask what does the chain look like? Is it Bass > Sans Amp > Some sort of pre? > opto/76?
@@edwardkenemorales most cases it’s just do the best you can! Sometimes you have to perform a miracle haha
Yes pretty much what you said:
Bass > sansamp/di> preamp > compressor > interface
Omg the Best !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks !!!
Thanks mate!
Great getting to it! covering the info at a good clip/speed...showing - not wasting time (with whatever). Very nice!
Thanks!
YYYYYEEEESSSSS!!!!!! Been waiting for this! Bring it on!
Haha hopefully you find something useful in there!
@@spinlightstudios for sure! I know I’m buying a sans amp DI now lol, my old laney bass amp w/built in DI just doesn’t cut it
Trusty sansamp never fails!
Thanks a lot for all your helpful Videos. It's great and I love the results.
You’re welcome! Thanks 🙏🏼
Really really helpful dude. Always struggle with bass so this is really going to impact my mixes. Thank you!
You’re welcome mate!
Another quality video 👌🏼
Thanks mate!
I gotta get that SVT plugin. Probably the number one amp for bass.
thanks for the vid and tips!
No problem!
Di sounded great.
I normally go di to 1176 compressor plugin. Bus it and distort and remove the bottom end and automate to the song so it sits
Nice! Yeah I’m usually tracking di into an 1176
Great info! Man the raw DI sounds so good already, I need to get myself a p bass...
Thanks Wyatt. Dude, everyone needs a Precision Bass and a sansamp 😂 tested and true, can do no wrong!
2 week update - Squier P bass acquired 🤣 It's dead simple and sounds like a record, why did I ever use anything else. Only thing better would be a Fender.
Good stuff bro.
Thanks mate!
@@spinlightstudios Do you ever record one track of bass???
@@ringomaharaj1268 I usually capture a di and some sort of bass preamp or bass head type thing simultaneously! But sometimes when I’m moving quick I’ll just plug the bass straight in and just use that.
I started learning to play bass not long ago. I wanted to be able to lay down live basslines for my own tunes (I make D+B, and really like the old live sounding organic D+B tracks from the 90's like Roni Size stuff as an example). I built a few bits of hardware specifically for recording and mixing my bass (specifically with giving me the most options in mind). I built a 3 mode DI with a FET/Tube and a clean transformer only input (the FET input sounds money on my bass), a vari-mu compressor/limiter (I'm also building an opto compressor soon for it too, for when I learn to play a bit better and can control the dynamics of my playing a bit more myself) and an old Neumann EQ clone which sounds sooooo dam good (I'm already wanting to build more of them as I've never heard a mix focused EQ that sounds so dang good, it blows my SSL E292 clones from the original SL4000G desk out the water!). It's only got 3 bands (and only the mid has adjustable frequency), but it has 5 DOAs in it lol (all with matched transistors)! I also built a 3 mode saturation box with varying types and intensities of distortion available.
I'm thinking about getting a new mic and an amp to record to give me even more tone possibilities. I can also re-amp from my DI, so would be able to run anything through it to the amp and mic if I really wanted.
*Any suggestions of a good mic for recording bass amps?*
I'll probably be going for a really deep fat tone, rather than a more low-mid/upper low end heavy rock style tone. Something that would work well in a jazz style of playing might be good as they really lean on the deep lows of the bass quite often in jazz. I ofc still want some presence, but the low end of DnB is ofc the focus of the track, so it tends to get more space than in rock etc as well as generally going lower too, and small speakers are less of a concern as it's main playing environment is a club/rave (even though I still want it heard on small speakers, it's just not the main focus and getting the low lows right is the most important, hence why I'll be running the lower 4 strings of a low B 5 string on my bass next time I change strings ;P). Ta in advance!
I would probably look at a fet47 style mic for that! The kind of mic you would put on the front of a bass drum too!
@@spinlightstudios Nice one! That makes a lot of sense actually. And there's a few U47fet clone DIY kits floating about too what's ideal for me. There's also a bunch of documentation on how to build your own without buying a kit, and I might go down that route as it's cheaper, and you can get way closer to the original neumann one that way as the kits are often simplified (which isn't always a bad thing, but could be in some cases).
Mics are the one area I hardly know anything about lol, other than the basic types and pick up patterns (although I'm constantly trying to leaen more) . These's a few I know really really well from past jobs (hence hearing that broken SM58 instantly lol), as they're all we would use (courperate gigs), but I've never done live band work as I'm on the electronic dance side of music mostly and very little recording work (which I'm trying to change).
I'll let you know if I end up building one and how it sounds 👍. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this amazing video! Quick question though, On your tracks I see 'Q' on them. I've never seen that before. What is that?
Thanks mate. The Q appears when you have multiple channels set to a group and have them Phase Locked. The Q stands for which tracks determine quantizing when using flextime. If that’s hard to understand, you could watch my how to flextime drums video, I explain it in there I think 🤔
@spinlightstudios Oh wow okay that makes perfect sense! It's crazy I've been using Logic for a couple years now and no one has ever mentioned this. Thanks for the quick response you're the man! I subscribed earlier today, and I'm gonna binge all your videos for sure.
Thanks Jeremiah!
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Wow, super helpful video, many thanks! Question for you- in your opinion, can you get the same results using these techniques to mix a VST bass guitar? I’m struggling with my bass mixes, but in many of my cases, I am mixing Bass VST instruments. Just wanting to see if that would make a difference in the mix quality at the end of the day. Thx
Thanks! I know plenty of people who use midi bass and get great results, but mostly they are working on heavier styles of music. I think the trick is to play with the velocity’s to try and get it to sound a little more human. And picking the right vst tone so you don’t actually need to mix it too much, try and find a tone that is very close to what you like.
Great. Vid. You using a sub too or just the Yamaha's we can see?
Thanks, just the HS8’s, can hear that low end on these pretty well!
Should the low end of the punchy bass be going through the amp on the bus like this? I've seen other people recommend the DI is left untouched, besides compression?
There’s no rules! What ever sounds best. For me, If I have a processed signal like a sansamp preamp and a clean di - i like to blend them and then process them together - this minimizes the chances of phase issues too.
@spinlightstudios Thanks man! Only recently discovered your channel and loving it. Planning on sitting down to do the indie rock mix tutorial with your multi tracks when I have a minute.
Hey what desk is that? I might need to get one
Hey man! It’s actually a custom desk I built with my father. Based on some
Argosy dimensions!
Very nice. I’ve been toying with the idea of building it myself as well. Looks awesome!
Thanks!
I don’t suppose you had dimensions or plans by chance would you? I keep looking at different build idea and keep coming back to yours lol
Unfortunately I didn’t keep them, they were a mess anyway haha
You told me I had to play with a pick, then you called me a baby, so i unsubscribed and then subscribed again. I hope that's the end of this 😊
Haha only play with a pick when you want it to sound like a pick! Let’s put this in the past haha