Analyse et commentaires sur Un Cœur en hiver (1992) de Claude Sautet

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @ROVERY171272
    @ROVERY171272 11 дней назад +1

    Vous êtes un brillant commentateur et documentaliste. Merci également pour le document JFK l’image 313
    Je suis en plein écriture de mon roman Jackie JFK Marylin Maria et les autres
    Chapitre 12 en écriture bientôt fini
    2 ans de travail

    • @odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema
      @odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema  11 дней назад +1

      Je vous remercie beaucoup. Bonne chance pour votre roman. C'est dur de vivre de ce qui nous passionne, n'est-ce pas ? On a choisi la mauvaise voie, mais il faut persévérer.

    • @ROVERY171272
      @ROVERY171272 11 дней назад

      @@odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema ne vous inquiétez pas pour moi, j’ai la chance d’avoir un métier dans le médical qui me permet de bien gagner ma vie et de pouvoir écrire en toute sérénité

  • @lmnll2742
    @lmnll2742 Год назад +3

    C'est rare que je m'abonne direct, mais là, je suis obligé. Merci beaucoup pour votre travail de grande qualité.

  • @mapmap8524
    @mapmap8524 6 месяцев назад +1

    Quel magnifique travail ! Merci beaucoup.

  • @moulindors
    @moulindors 10 месяцев назад +2

    C’est remarquable ! Je découvre votre analyse et elle est… Remarquable 🙏

  • @viviendubois5780
    @viviendubois5780 Год назад +2

    Excellent, travail incroyable une des meilleures chaîne youtube.

  • @AnneGarrel
    @AnneGarrel 3 месяца назад +2

    J adore il nous manque😊❤

  • @garmonboland
    @garmonboland Год назад

    Superbe masse de travail d'analyse concentrée en 52 minutes. Bravo à tous les deux.

  • @parmentelchristine5108
    @parmentelchristine5108 7 месяцев назад +4

    Mon film préféré de Claude Sautet

  • @exylium4011
    @exylium4011 Год назад +2

    comment dire que cette vidéo m a subjugé grace a toi j ai vu des choses que je n avais pas vu a mes deux visionnages de ce film dans lequel je n arrivais pas a rentrer dedans
    merci pour tout

    • @odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema
      @odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema  Год назад +1

      Je vous remercie beaucoup. C'est le but et quand il réussit, il est atteint. Là c'est un film très fin qui change l'image que Claude Sautet avait.

    • @exylium4011
      @exylium4011 Год назад +1

      @@odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema oui effectivement

  • @TheGamesLite
    @TheGamesLite 7 месяцев назад +1

    Vidéo absolument excellente ! Merci beaucoup

  • @tarrairepascal1425
    @tarrairepascal1425 Год назад +1

    magnifique analyse qui est le pendant pour moi de votre autre magnifique analyse "Breve histoire d'amour" de Krzysztof Kieslowski

  • @labaljohn3177
    @labaljohn3177 5 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent. Merci

  • @ValentinLebret_76
    @ValentinLebret_76 Год назад +2

    Qu'est ce que j'aime le premier mouvement de Ravel ❤️
    Excellente critique !

  • @desssval
    @desssval Месяц назад +1

    My apologies for writing in English not French.
    I see the film in a different light and in my opinion the words you used to describe the musical piece of Ravel apply to Stefan. It is indeed a portrait of a heart in winter which resembles a defective violin. He loves music and understand it deeply - deeper perhaps than Maxim who, as we understand from subtle clues is a bit superficial. It is not by chance that it is Stephane who actually does the quite, backroom work of fixing the instruments, not Maxim. Each time a broken with the sound of her violin is discussed Maxim gives incorrect suggestions, Stephane - quite and withdrawn identifies the issue and improves the sound of her instrument - her heart in the film’s chosen metaphor. It is this quiet deep understanding of music that makes a strong impression on Camille. When they discuss the tempo of her recording Stephane makes a comment that it is too fast and that is precisely why she wants him to stay - because he understands her music so deeply and helped her with his work as a craftsman and his appreciation of music. That is why this otherwise unattractive and unmagnetic man gets her attention.
    One more thing about Maxim. I do not understand why no comment is made on his character as flowed. From the opening monologue we are given to understand that he is highly social but that Maxim finds him superficial both with people and music. He knows the musicians, he knows their recordings, programs etc., but this is his business. They, the musicians, are his clients and so he is a bit of manipulator too.
    A trait in his character that makes Stephane say that he is not his friend. Friendship requires deeper affinity which Maxim also does not feel for Stephane as hinted in the opening monologue.
    Compare this relationship to the connection of Stephane with his apprentice. Notice the deep, ritual like atmosphere of their work together, the way Stephane transmits his secrets to the young man. At the end of the film we see that the young man has chosen Stephane in his new workshop, not Maxim.
    Just like another personage in the film - Camille.
    Maxim is much older than Camille but has no qualms of seducing her. He explains his technique cooly, suggesting that there had been other such encounters with musicians before. But Camille is obviously different, so different in fact, that Stephane is stirred by the fact that this has happened.
    One detail on Maxim: he leaves his wife for this very young and inexperienced woman who obviously can be influenced by others - her friend/supervisor etc.
    When Stephane mentions Maxim’s wife Maxim says: “someone has to suffer”. So the wife gets the suffering, he Maxim gets the pleasure and the beautiful young girl who is too insecure to block him.
    When Stephane understands that they are moving together in the apartment, he gets sick. Jealousy plays a part for sure but also genuine feeling for the qualities of this talented girl - Camille - touched by grace. He knows Maxim too well. He is definitely not touched by grace and has not much to give her once she grows up a bit as a person as a musician. We understand that towards the end. She travels and grows, Maxim remains the same…
    One more thing about Camille. She is not perfect too. She falls for Maxim who he is sleek and attentive but moves her emotional attachment to him whenever she feels something deeper with Stephane. Just like that, Maxim is out, Stephane, the friend, is in with a suggestion to go to a hotel. This is immature and egoistical and therefore false. False note, false music. Stephane refuses.
    It is true that his response is cruel. He says that he does not love her and that she misunderstood the situation. But did Stephane understand the situation? Did this man can fix other people sound’s fix his own?
    He loves music deeply but does not play out of fear or excessive love. This is what his teacher said. He has deep knowledge of music but speaks only to the point, professionally, to fix something, to resolve an issue. This is how his love is shown including for his suffering teacher. He does the job. The all important act.
    In the end he does wake up. The words of Camille stir him and he goes to her to speak. It is her turn to reject him. The scene in the end shows him realising that just as music he has excluded himself out of love and life itself. He loves them but will look at them at a distance: admiring, helping hidden in a backroom but not really there.
    All three characters are complex, real, contradictory - manipulative and sincere, loving and egotistical, open and closed and this is what makes all parts of the music of Ravel so important. They stay together but this together goes through radically different phases, tempos, styles.

  • @Cc-dk3rd
    @Cc-dk3rd Год назад +4

    J'ai toujours été intriguée par la relation entre Lachaume et madame Amet, qui se vouvoient la journée ("Madame Amet, venez voir cette merveille", dit Lachaume devant la marionnette), et ne se tutoient que la nuit, lorsque plus personne ne les voit et les enfants ne sont plus là... Je me rends compte que nous découvrons cette relation exclusivement à travers les yeux de Stéphane et en sa présence, lorsqu'il assiste par hasard à deux scènes auxquelles il n'était pas censé assister: une dispute de vieux couple, où Lachaume finit par avouer qu'il ne veut pas que madame Amet le quitte; et ensuite le malaise de Lachaume - et là madame Amet l'appelle sans pudeur "Mon Louis". Il est clair que ce couple-là est significatif pour le personnage de Stéphane. Peut-être représente-t-il l'autre face de l'amour?

    • @odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema
      @odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema  Год назад +3

      Votre commentaire est très juste et fort bien vu. Cela m'avait un peu échappé. Comme un amour secret et authentique, jusque dans l'acceptation de la mort de Lachaume, volonté approuvée par madame Amet par amour et respect. C'est d'ailleurs en assistant en secret à ces scènes que le héros de notre temps change peu à peu... Mais trop tard.

  • @MadeleineLeGuennec
    @MadeleineLeGuennec 9 месяцев назад +2

    merci beaucoup pour votre travail, pourriez vous faire l'analyse de César et Rosalie ou de Max et les ferrailleurs ? Merci par avance, bon courage et surtout, continuez !

  • @TheHappychickadee
    @TheHappychickadee Год назад +1

    Thank you

  • @Marceaugu.71
    @Marceaugu.71 27 дней назад +1

    Le cinéma Pour moi s’est arrêté avec Sautet

  • @odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema
    @odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema  Год назад +3

    Auteur d'essais sur le cinéma : www.editions-harmattan.fr/index.asp?navig=auteurs&obj=artiste&no=26832
    et de romans : www.amazon.fr/stores/Yannick-Rolandeau/author/B0DJDR2KRX?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true
    Et pour nous aider grâce à Tipeee : fr.tipeee.com/user/yannick-102

    • @garmonboland
      @garmonboland Год назад

      La page Tipeee ne donne pas la possibilité d'aider, juste d'envoyer un message ?

    • @odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema
      @odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema  Год назад +1

      @@garmonboland Hum... je ne sais pas s'il faut s'abonner ou alors voir à : fr.tipeee.com/yannick-ro

    • @garmonboland
      @garmonboland Год назад

      @@odysseusvoyageaucentreducinema Ah oui sur ce lien ça fonctionne !