Voigtlander Bessa R my new Leica
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Well join me today where I cheat on my Leica m6 and take my new Bessa R for a stroll. Today we will be reviewing the Voigtlander Bessa R! I’ll chat about the pros and cons and all that’s in between! Let’s see if this beautiful camera is right for you!!!!
Hope you enjoy!
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Camera:
Voigtlander Bessa R
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Film:
Fuji 200
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You know you’re living right when RUclips rolls right from grainydays into bad flashes… nice shots, looked like a fun trip.
Hahaha love that … it was thanks for tuning in 🥳
I'm having a better day it seems because I just learned about grain days recently and now bad flashes. guess I have a bunch of great content to go through 😃
Oh yay!!!! :)
I love seeing Jason in Bad Flashes videos and Caleb in Grainydays videos, it feels like a constant crossover episode
🥰🥰🥰 two shows with special guests every episode 🤪
I have a Zeiss Ikon ZM and a Voitglander R4A, I actually prefer them over my Leica M6, faster shutter speed, lighter body, larger and brighter rangefinder, aperture priority mode; also somewhat cheaper compares to Leica bodies.
Oh man. I’d love to try out the R4a some day for sure :)
@@BadFlashes Cosina Leica M cameras are a must for M mount lovers imo, or a Konica Hexar RF. So guuuud
I need to try that one toooo
@@GlaciaDay had a hexar RF for a while, such a beaty and a joy to use, but sold it because i realized i dont enjoy focusing with a rangefinder unfortunatly.. hurt my soul a lil bit to sell it!
@@Benjaminjohansson93 yeah focusing with rangefinder is a bit finicky, zone focus and scale focus is the way to go I guess.
I picked up my Bessa-R about four years ago for the sweet price of $110 and I immediately fell in love with it, it was my second LTM rangefinder but my first upper end model (I was using my Zorki 4 at the time) and afterwards I ended up with a few FEDs three Leicas and a Canon model 7 but it's still one of my favorites. Absolutely cannot go wrong with the Bessa-R series. LTM Gang all day.
Oh wow that price is so so so good! Such a good camera 🥳🤩
@@BadFlashes It's my go to when I want to ram high ISO film through a rangefinder, that 1/2000 is too nice not to play with.
I'm playing with Zorkis now...the FED I got isn't working...but Zorkis are fun chunks or metal...running my first rolls through them now.
Nice!!!! Have fun 🤩
i just paid 1200 for an R2A lol.. seems prices have skyrocketed lately
The LTM Bessa R was my first rangefinder, and I still hold it in high regards. Great camera that works like a charm for cheap.
OH that's awesome! it is so so fun
Loved this one dude! LTM is the way. I have been rocking my Canon P for so long now
there are some really awesome choices for sure!
I know you!
I have the Canon P and it is a great little shooter. Heavy because like all 50's and 60's camera it is seemingly made from old battleship armor. The Canon lenses for the system are really good. I just added a Voigtlander VC Meter II to the cold shoe or bring my Pentax 1 degree spot meter. I wish the rangefinder patch was brighter but honestly that hasn't been that much of a problem. I've looked at the Bessa R but just can't bring myself to pull the trigger as my Canon P works so well, at least for me.
Oh Hell yes! I have always been curious about the canon P! if it works for you why change it that’s awesome. 😄
Could be worse I have a canon 7 I picked it over the P because I like being able to switch frame lines instead of all of them there all at once the only con for that camera is not having a coldshoe and since the light meter doesn’t work on mine I basically have a keks light meter attached to the top via some Velcro tape
Keks meters are great though haha
@@johnnytoledo Got a canon 7 not long ago and kinda wish i went for the model p for this reason, although i did get it for a steal and it has me getting better at sunny 16 so i guess thats a pro haha
My Canon 50mm f1.8 LTM lens was also offset on my Leica M8 and M9 using an LTM/M adapter. I don't know for sure but I've been told for some reason, all of the Canon lenses do the same thing. Sometimes I wonder why Voigtlander didn't come out with a digital Bessa.
Yeah that’s a good question. Maybe they just didn’t get into that digital body game …. Totally could have
Aww, so close to first. Thank you for validating my bad collecting habits as well.
I'm always there to make great camera decisions 😂
Had both a Bessa r and an Olive R2 (sexy colour scheme) but sold my soul for an m6. Genuinely miss the R2 sometimes with its unique features. Great video dude!
Aw thanks!!!
I mean I get the M6 trade!!!
But like Bessa R’s
@@BadFlashes Oh yea no regrets, but yep definitely get you
Have the exact same camera since 2017, except I got a 35mm ultron, been wanting to get a canon 50mm 1.2 though, really good camera. This got me excited to shoot with it soon.
Yaya glad to help out :)
I can't forgive the missed opportunity for "Farty McFly" staring you right in the face :P
Hah oh no. I’m soo soo soo sorry 😢
This video helped me decide on my Bessa R. Quesiton: Have you calibrated the horizontal focus on it? I'm looking for some tips. Thanks!
Oh fun!!! Great camera. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I haven’t done that yet
The R is a pretty great deal for an LTM camera. The R2 (and other M mount versions) used to great leica alternatives back when they were under $800. The build quality just isnt there, and for $1200+ dollars, it's worth it to just save for Leica M2/3/4.
I mean I wish I had an m3 and m4
Hahaa
@@BadFlashes Sell a kidney and you’re in business
I have a few of these in my collection. I find the Bessa R to be the EASIEST rangefinder to adjust than other RF's...
Oh I haven’t even gone that far yet. Good to know
Caleb, I will say that as someone with an LTM rangefinder (Canon 7), all the M-mount bros buying up LTM glass to use via adapters kinda chaps my ass. It makes it very difficult to find options for certain lenses that are both in good shape, and affordable. I found it particularly difficult to find a good-condition LTM 35mm lens option that wasn't $250 or more. I ended up choosing a Jupiter 12 because I could not justify spending $250 for a Canon 35mm f/2.8 or $300-350 for a 35mm f/2.5 Color Skopar.
Well I do get that… I initially had some problems. Unfortunately it’s the way things go at this point when looking for alternatives or cheaper options. I prefers M on M myself
I have my first goog rangefinder for two month (a Kodak Retina IIC (the big C is important)) and I am really getting in the rangefinder way of shooting. I already looking into an upgrade...
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Bessa R series are based on economy SLR Cosina chassis. I used one R exclusively as daily camera for one year or so. It worn out badly outside and shutter blades were showing some worn out as well. Despite this, R is the best from the R series, IMO. I have got new R2M later on and it was just bigger camera and nothing else, except M mount. But since all Rs are same SLR economy chassis, quality and handling is nowhere near Leica M series. If you are fast shooter.
Nice! That’s a lot of good info overall… M’s are just yummy
One of the big thing is really love about the M5 is its spot meter. The meter of the M6 was always a bit to broad for me. The meter or the Bessa sounds great.
It ain’t bad ;)
My Canon 50/1.8 LTM mounts the exact same. The middle of the scale is around 1-2 o’clock. Looks janky, but it works with the placement of the focus tab/lock deal. That focus throw is sooooo looooong though, expecially compared to the Voigtlander.
Yeah I agree with that long throw… Not a fan but I do like the results. That’s good to know it threads that way for you tooo
@@BadFlashes Same here, and from experimentation it doesn't affect focus from what I can tell. The canon LTM lenses seem to be like the soviet ones where they're just a hair off the Leica specs so throwing them without calibration on seems to get you a bit of back focus. Fuck though I really want an R so damn hard, at least they're somewhat cheap out of Japan hahaha
Leica R? They coo look solid
@@BadFlashes the lens clocks like that purposely for better visibility of the scale when coldshoe accessories were mounted on contemporary bodies such as large meters or turret finders.
But the voigtlander lenses don’t do it that way?????
Thanks brother. How does the Bessa T compare to the R?
the Bessa T only has a rangefinder ... no viewfinder... so you will have to get your own cold shew viewfinder
That‘s the reason I‘ve been hunting an Epson R-D1 for way too long… Never got one though. But I still had the chance to get my hands on one for quite some time, and I love both, the Bessa R and the R-D1
Oh wow! Yeah, I really always wanted to try that camera out
Friend of mine has the Bessa R2A, solid, solid camera. Love the blue & yellow on yours!
Thanks yo!
R2a’s looks great 🫶🏼👍🏼🤩🤘🏼
I love that SantaColor 100 film that you used in this video Caleb. It works well with the Bessa
I actually didn’t shoot Santa color, Fuji Color … I want to get my hands on some though
I got the exact same setup, nice (Bessa R + Canon 50mm F1.8)! I just bought a voigtlander 15mm F4.5 super wide heliar to upgrade my system, cant wait to try it out
I don't have the focus problems you describe wide open though
Oh that’s good! Also… dope. It’s a great setup
I've been waiting for this video! 💙
YES! Hope you enjoyed it
I have a bessa R with a Canon 50 1.4. Just started shooting with it. How do I know if my lens is centered and threaded properly?
Are you having issues with it? I’m sure it’s threaded properly. If the images come out fine also the thread mount lens on a thread, mountain body wood most likely seat correctly.
Damn that’s a pretty modern film camera, and it looks so goood…. AHHH I don’t need more cameras in my lifffe! Well, maybe another medium format…
Also that car shot of Jason of Grainydays is pure ✨a r t✨
Awwww thanks. I love art 🥰
And yeah it’s such a good one 🤘🏼
So glad to see new caleb joined you guys at 2:07
Hahahah 😂😂😂
Thanks for this video I’ve been waiting for someone to make a good video about this camera
Yayayay I’m glad to help out and make a vid :)
been loving the shots on the bessa dude, keep it up! im goin on my own route 66 trip starting saturday, thanks to ya'll for inspring me :)
also effy? good choice in wrestlers my dude, hoping to see him wrestle at FEST
OMG have so much fun that will be amazing!
@@BadFlashes hell yeah, im hyped to see the southwest for the first time, it looks so beautiful
Oh it totally is :)
@@BadFlashes well then hopefully my pics will do it justice 🙏
I have the same Canon Ltm Lens adapted on my M2 and its off centered just like yours. A little annoying to look at, but I guess we can work around it
Interesting interesting
I need to know how many miles that LS400 has !! I love them so much , the fact that the 1UZ V8 is so damn bulletproof I play a fun game of guess the mileage on LS400’s with friends when we find them on marketplaces
Great video as always, mr. Flashes
So.. range finder eh? Might have to get me one of those..
I mean.... I love them!
@@BadFlashes Yeah I've noticed, and I get it. It's the next natural step for me I guess, having used SLR's for a while. Maybe just a few more Bessa episodes from you to convince me... ;)
Hahaha ok deal
ackshully the Minolta Maxxum 9 is in first place with it's 1/12000 shutter speed.
The spread of the rangefinder seems pretty slim, but I'm use to the Keiv 4m which is from one side of the camera to the other.
I’m not sure what that means but I’m into it 😆
@@BadFlashes the distance between the two windows
Ohhhhhhhhhh I didn’t notice
I watched Jason's vid because it popped up on my feed first, but I liked your video first 🤣
haha it's ok ... I watched it first this morning as well ☺️
love the video. your humor is so well timed
Aw thanks. I’m glad you enjoy the videos ☺️
Oh the Bessas. Was really torn between an R2/R2M in olive green and an M6 back then and picked the latter, though was a really close race. Ace video and don't worry, you got me cracking a smile with that bessa camera joke, even if it's just because it sounds like the German word for better. 🙋♂
hahah thanks for entertaining that joke! But you made a good decision overall on the camera selection 😋
Gotta turn in the hipster photog card if you say anything is a solid alternative to a Leica. I generally either a Zeiss Ikon or a Minolta CLE for a rangefinder with Leica glass. I prefer the Minolta mostly, but it only has 28, 40, and 90mm frame lines :\. Not the worst, I love 40mm the most more or less, but the Zeiss having 28, 35, 50, and 85 give me 3 I love and 28 is there, I guess. I get eye squints and dark stares when I say I prefer the Zeiss and Minolta over Leica bodies for most of the same lenses (the 40mm for the Minolta that is basically welded to mine is supposedly made by Leica in Germany, but it uses a different filter and stuff so who knows, and I can't be bothered to research).
All that said, I pretty much only shoot film with my Mamiya 645 Pro TL these days. I love rangefinders but having a bag with a few backs with different films loaded in different sizes (120, 35, and Pano 35) all in one system in a formfactor I love (box/modular systems with waist-level viewfinders with the option of a solid prism finder) that I can swap between mid-roll is hard to beat. I do usually bring the Zeiss or Minolta as a backup because you never know, but that's pretty much my entire kit minus my Olympus Pen half frame collection.
That camera looks awesome! Great shots btw, well done!
Thanks a ton ... I mean I'm definitely into it 🤪
Love that Bad Boy Blue Bessa with the Cool Classic Canon Chrome...😍
That classic chrome is soo nice 😊
Awesome Vid, camera, pictures, & photographer!!!
Ah thanks Mate! 😊
The Nikon FM10 rubber eyecup will slide right onto that Bessa R (both Cosina mde)
Yum yummy that’s dope.
Picked up a range recently. The petri didn't work out so got a FED 3 with a jupiter 50mm lens. Loving it so far. It''ll hold me over until I find me a Bessa R money. Would love 1/1000 on the shutter but, shooting with a range has gotten me out of shooting f2.8 so much. f8 and f11 life now. lol An internal meter would be legit as well. Great video as always duder.
thanks my dude! I'm glad you got yourself a rangefinder ... it will only increase the obsession
Awesome camera. I have a 50s Bessa II folder that thing blows me away love it
Damn that’s awesome jelly of that
@@BadFlashes not sure what jelly means but I’ll tek it’s a compliment if it’s not don’t burst me bubble 😂📷
Complement for sure!
@@BadFlashes top man new sub for ya then 😂
❤️🫶🏼☺️
Bought mine new in 2006 and a 35mm lens and regretted selling it in 2009. It was an awesome camera.
So good!! Maybe someday you will find its way back to you
Minolta Dynax/Maxxum/Alpha 9 still reigns supreme with 1/12000th mechanical shutter, not that I’ve ever used it. Like a divers watch you only ever wear in the shower… it’s nice to know it could if you needed to.
Hahaha love that analogy. Now to eBay I go 🤩
@@BadFlashes Beware of the dreaded sticky grip. Otherwise, they’re absolute tanks. A 9 with a prime is a thing of beauty. A heavy beauty.
(Not the 9xi, which is a young pretender)
Is this the same location where Jason was testing Santa Colour? Cool video Caleb.
Yep yep
It’s a great location
That ski lift isn’t abandoned they’re still open when the mountain has enough snow
yeah ... I found that out last night hahahaha
I really like its vintage colour!!
Uh more like #1 favourite RUclipsr
ahhhhh thanks yo!!! :)
Great video as usual 😊
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Bessa R(2)'s are great shooters, no doubt!! But with a Canon Serenar 50/1,8, You, Sir, can go full circle and have a Canon P, or according to CameraQuest the best; Canon L1 or VL! Voigtlander of this class is after all a plastic Cosina.
I’m just not a fan of the Canon P design :/
They are lovely but I’m a fan of the blue hahah
Today I watched your video first before Jason's just because you have a Bessa R. I have a R2C (and also Leica's)
Oh, the R2c!!!!!
I’ve always been interested in that version.
So your Pentax 67 also failed on you? May I shouldn’t get one after all.. I have two film cameras already.
I don’t know I think Pentax is just cursed in my hands unfortunately. I love the Cameras so much though. The cool thing is that it can get fixed
@@BadFlashes May I ask what's the exact issue with the pentax 67? it just doesn't fire?
Yeah they’re just never came down
I mean, it's an amazing camera, even if I don't like rangefinders, but did you really need to spend that much to buy a Bessa?
Yep!!!! Do you see that color???????? Lol
@@BadFlashes I don't think I've ever seen another one in blue and piss yellow.
A Canon 7 is also a great camera.
@@CalumetVideo Yeah but it doesn't say Bessa on the side of the tin...
If ever decide to move on from FSU, at least i know there are ways to move my glass across.
Very true
Those Cameras are made by Cosina right?
Yep yep yep
The best rangefinder was the The Contax 3Bor Keiv 3B
Hummmmmmm
Consider the Minolta alpha 9 (the og) with its 1/12000 shutter speed
That’s the lightning fast!
Love my R2 more than any other camera I've shot
Nice!!!!! That’s solid! Love that
My Bessa R jammed on me two time during different trips... Maybe I was too fast of a shooter.
Jammed??? like how????
Exactly which part of this camera resembles a Leica , that you call it your new ' Leica '? It is a decent range finder in its own right, but a Leica it is not old or new.
Idk. Bc it’s a rangefinder and Leicas are the ultimate and I’m a click bait boy! Hahhaha
I love my Vitessa T. A little older than the bessa.
Nice that’s bad asss
Had it and sold it for my M6
M6 light meter stopt working.
Now shooting with Eos3
I recommend
All of it 😅
Lol damn. What a roller coaster of camera rides. Could you not get the M6 meter fixed?
@@BadFlashes it's 1000€ in Leica Germany. No thanks. I'll learn to read light like sunny 16. I've also got other interests like Astrophotography so can't afford a 1000€ fix.
Oh shit I definitely get that sorry yo. Have you looked into PPP Repairs?
the bessar/better joke is even better when you're from germany. wowowow.
Hahah I tried….
this was one of your Bessa videos
Hahahahahaha ❤️ that
The Nikon F801s does 1/8000 too! And is pretty cheap
🥷🏻 That's dope! 🤟🏼
So are you selling your m6 or what? ;)
HahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahafahagagahhahahagahahahahagagaggagahhahahahahaHahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahafahagagahhahahagahahahahagagaggagahhahahahaha … no
glad i bought mine before prices got the youtube bump
oh hells yeah! that's so bad ass... congrats
The one I owned, the viewfinder was noticeably un-level.
Oh that’s weird .
The way you guys use your film cameras a home made pinhole would be sufficient... :)
But only if it has a red dot
fun fact, in German the word besser means better. so I bet bessa is some gheddo slang from voigtländer. maybe.
Hahaha BETTER … what what? The world???? But that’s actually cool
I feel like you have hacked my Google account because you seem to upload a video about what I was googling about 2-3 weeks later. Creepy.
I'm very skilled at knowing what the people want hahaha
Royale with cheese!
Haha
❤️😀
love you mommy!
I wish I’d bought a Bessa when they were £200 used 🤬
Yea I totally get that
@@BadFlashes Well… rose tinted retrospect-o-vision. Yeah, they were cheap but all I wanted was a Canon 80D. Film was gone. That digital stuff was the future!
Yeah, I bought an R new from Cameraquest with a new color 35mm lens for like 450.00 in 2006, I regretfully sold it in 2009 for 500.00 and today that same kit in mint condition would be over 800 bucks.
Those were the days!!!
Oh wow I totally feel that at least you made your money though that’s good.
sick
OH HELLS YEAH 😍
@@BadFlashes lovin the positivity 👍👍
I don't understand if you're acting.
You know …. Me neither … are we in the matrix ????
I had this before. It is awful! The metering is off. Everything just awful, not saying it’s gonna be awful for you too! Anyone reading this.. DO NOT BUY THAT CAMERA.
I’m sorry yours was a dud, that sucks.
I haven’t really had much of an issue with it this far
Yea. I hope you won’t get any issues with it!!
Thanks. 🙂
1/(1/8000) of a second is 2 hours and 13 minutes.
🤯😵💫🤟🏼
@@BadFlashes Maybe a pinhole lens adaptor would make a great time lapse with that shutter speed. I saw a video recently where a German photographer, Karin Majoka, did a one year solar time lapse with a pinhole and the take aways were interesting.
Just had to Google if flie's fart. They do.
Hahhahaha I didn’t even know that. Learning so much
You’d be better off with a Canon VI-L.
I’m sure those aren’t bad but I do particularly like this one plus the color
My petri 7s feels better to use than my Leica 3 lol
Hahahahahahahaha
I shouldn't be allowed to watch your videos as I am dangerously close to spending money I don't have on another film camera I don't need 😭
Haha I don’t really mean to do it, but I understand it. Hahaha sorry. I know I’m a bad influence.
@@BadFlashes actually terrible. But also low key you're a good bad influence. Most role models be talkin bout "do drugs get rich", you're just like "hey check out this camera"
Hahaha that’s true … but the drugs are implied 🤣🤣🤣