@@sultryglebe maybe we should just take out a loan and pay it off now so Jesus can come more quickly. My wife’s loan seems to be growing instead of shrinking lol
9:35 Matthew 24:21-22: "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be SHORTENED."
President Nelson says we are in the bottom of the 9th inning. The thing about innings are…they don’t end until all the outs (prophecies) are fulfilled. There isn’t a ticking clock on that. An obviously inspired analogy.
I like your inspired look into what Nelson said and what it means to you. This is what came to my mind when hearing him: Prophet Quote, "Using a baseball analogy, we are in the last half of the ninth inning. Our Heavenly Father and His Son chose you to be on their team when the game’s on the line..." For people that love baseball, the last half of the ninth inning is known as the bottom of the inning, which is... the end of the game, when the home team is at bat, the score is not tied, the game is about to be over; the end game; the final chance!. - Search the baseball-almanac if you need a source. Lastly, I do not appreciate Gospel Lessons interpreting the prophets words for me and others. Although, I came up with something different from you, I more appreciate what you had to say and I liked your words. Just like the scriptures, each of us pulls something out that we need for us at this time! The quote ends "...This means they know you. They trust you and they’ll help you fulfill your personal mission on this earth." - Russel M Nelson.
So every knee will bow when Christ comes, but at least at the beginning of Christs return many will be Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, and other forms of Christianity
As for the “Great Famine”: There are many factors that could contribute to famine in a very short period of time, including: 1. Political and Social Factors: * Conflict and War: Armed conflicts can disrupt agriculture, displace populations, and damage infrastructure, leading to food shortages. * Illegal Immigration: Large movements of people (and terrorist attacks) can strain food resources in host regions. * Political Instability: Governments struggling with corruption, poor governance, or ineffective policies can exacerbate food insecurity. (already happening) 2. Economic Factors: * Hyperinflation: Rapid increases in prices can erode purchasing power, making food unaffordable for many people. (already happening) * Economic Instability: Financial crises and economic downturns can disrupt food production and distribution systems. (Stock Market Crash this winter) * Market Disruptions: Trade restrictions, tariffs, and supply chain issues can limit access to food and increase prices. 3. Environmental Factors: * Drought: Extended periods of low rainfall or significant amounts of water being poisoned can severely impact crop production and water availability, leading to food shortages. * Natural Disasters: Events like earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, and wormwood can disrupt food production and distribution. 4. Agricultural and Technological Factors: * Crop Failures: Diseases, pests, or climate-related issues can lead to significant losses in crop yields. * Livestock Diseases: Outbreaks of diseases affecting livestock can reduce meat and dairy supplies. * Technological Limitations: Lack of access to modern farming technology and techniques (EMP) 5. Supply Chain Disruptions: * Transportation Issues: Problems with transportation infrastructure or logistics can hinder the distribution of food products. * Labor Shortages: A lack of workers in agriculture or food processing sectors can reduce food availability. (Pandemic) 6. Health Crises: * Pandemics: Widespread health crises can disrupt food production and distribution systems, affecting food security. * Nutritional Deficiencies: Public health issues related to nutrition can impact food access and quality. (already happening)
Exactly! Every morning during the pandemic shut down I woke up and said" I can't believe this is happening! Is this real?" Yes ! And it happened over night well in a few short weeks and the whole world 🌎 shut down!! The whole world shut down! Its still hard to believe it happened. That is an important lesson we should retain a memory of. Unfathomable big events could happen fast and simultaneously.
Elder Gerrit W. Gong of the Quorum of the Twelve said Wednesday, March 13, 2024 “Throughout the ongoing Restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ, emergent technologies - including in construction, communication and transportation - have allowed this great work to reach out and touch every nation, kindred, tongue and people,” Elder Gong said as he began a presentation to thousands of Church employees around the world.
The point was also made on another channel that I liked that with all of the refugee migration that has happened in Europe and the US, it has allowed many individuals coming from those nations not currently allowing proselyting from our missionaries, to hear the gospel preached unto them. They can come to us, we don't have to go to them.
This is lovely and part of me thinks I should do this. But honestly raising kids in this time is so hard. They suck up persistent false rhetoric and they are leaving the church. Sometimes I feel like I have to say hey, look around you, its happening.
Well yes it has touched all nations. But doesn't it need to be freely taught in all nations without hindrance from governments? Or am I misunderstanding? I think what would happen to open doors for this is world war 3. Much like how world war 2 opened things up. If world war 3 ends up being china, iran, north korea, and russia against everyone else and they lose, then we could open things up for a time of freely entering those nations.
Why do you believe the signs of the Second Coming will be unmistakable? The signs of His first coming apparently escaped detection in the old world just fine.
Joseph Fielding Smith, in Conference Report, Apr. 1966: "The words of the prophets are rapidly being fulfilled, but it is done on such natural principles that most of us fail to see it."
There are certain major key events that will for those who pay attention and are righteous to likely notice and take heed to, but many we will have no idea and it is told Christ will come like a thief in the night.
Great question. I personally don’t think, to those who knew them, the signs escaped detection. I think they misunderstood them more than anything else.
I agree. Im not sure these signs will be unmistakenable. I think even the righteous may miss many of them because they want them to be bigger and louder. Like Kevin said, its fun to speculate but focusing on Christ and following Him is what matters most. :)
At my age, the second coming will be when I leave this frail existence and meet the Lord on the other side of the vail. For now! I watch with interest all the different interpretations of the second coming.🇦🇺🙏👍
So I’ve printed out a timeline that a Jewish scholar mad for the last days and cross reference it with your timeline and it’s great 👍🏻 to see how each one works hand in hand. Thanks for sharing your timeline I’ve studied it for a year now it’s great insight and been a great blessing.
thanks for the refresher. Ive watched all of your videos, and I think you make the most sense, how youre able to tease apart all these separate events so well. I still have a hard time remembering all of these even though youve covered them all so well so many times. Again, I really appreciate the review. Thanks for all your hard work.
@@generalpatton838 Yes, I've heard it here and there lately, too. I think the concept was most clearly spoken of by Elder Maxwell in April 1992. He said, Now, my brethren, “these are [your] days” (Hel. 7:9) in the history of the Church. Mark well what kind of days they will be, days when, with special visibility, the Lord will “make bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations.” (D&C 133:3.) God will also “hasten” His work. (D&C 88:73.) He will also “shorten” the last days “for the elect’s sake”; hence, there will be a compression of events. (Matt. 24:22; JS-M 1:20.) Furthermore, “all things shall be in commotion.” (D&C 88:91.) Only those in the process of becoming the men and women of Christ will be able to keep their spiritual balance.
You have spoken so much pure unadulterated truth here. Withholding opinions and quoting scripture. This undoubtedly will anger many people especially if anything mentioned goes against their uninformed opinions or the cunning deceptions of authors. The idea of necessary prophecy fulfillment indicating a period of 20 to 30 years is a hard pill for some to swallow. Of course this doesn't mean we have that much time to prepare since that time will be filled with calamity and scarcity of food. It is very soon that this next chapter will take place. Christ being at the door is not necessarily a good thing altogether considering the judgments that He will first need to dish out. If we're prepared we will not fear.
Does quoting modern prophets and citing news articles and such count as "opinion"? Regardless of the content, framing and editing will always impart its own editorial.
Loved your videos about rhe second coming and their clarity- then I started to read through the comments and found so many people still missing the plot! No wonder our Lord refers to us as sheep, we scatter in all directions at the least provocation. Please keep faith with your generous insights - you can see how much they are needed!
My whole life I grew up in the gospel, and that the Savior was coming soon, those coming soon events have come and gone. 65 years later we are still waiting for that day. Because of that narrow minded thinking, fear and forgetting to prepare for a lifetime of mortality is now showing up. It is time to live your life following gospel principles, and see the wonderful experiences this mortality has to teach you. I have taught my Grandkids that you will live along and wonderful life. Don't be blinded by what you can't control. You will raise and wonderful family and one day have grandkids of your own, teach them to find hope in Christ and joy in mortality. That is what I needed to hear when I was a young man.
That's because Christianity is not what it is suppose to be. They teach alot of false doctrine and believe what they get spoon feed only in seminaries owned by freemasons / Satan.
Home-run Kevin! If we keep 1st things 1st and give heed to our prophets then the weightier matters of the gospel will be accomplished in our lives and we will be ready on both sides of the veil to receive Him. keep up the good work!
We talked about this last Sunday school in my ward and I whispered that I hope I don't have to drag my old carcass into the millennium and still have to make dinner. The lady behind whispered back, only if you are going to the telestial. If you get to terrestrial. We just have to make lunch and celestial, we don't have to worry about it. My husband then chimed in he will need a full course meal. But all we can do is be prepared for bad things to come and look forward to the good
“Newcomers, you may even see a few leave the Church who cannot then leave the Church alone.” Neal A Maxwell, Ensign Nov 1980, pg 14. (from his conference talk). He later says this again in a 1996 conference talk and references the 1980 talk where he invented the phrase. Joseph Smith and others may have recognized the phenomenon, but never said this. It is signature Maxwell wordplay.
President Joseph Fielding Smith (The Signs of the Lord's Coming) defined the "Times of the Gentiles" a bit differently than Ezra Taft Benson, "The times of the Gentiles commenced shortly after the death of our Redeemer. The Jews soon rejected the Gospel and it was then taken to the Gentiles… Jesus said the Jews would be scattered among all nations and Jerusalem would be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles were fulfilled. (Luke 21:24) The prophecy in Section 45, verses 24-29, of the Doctrine and Covenants regarding the Jews was literally fulfilled. Jerusalem, which was trodden down by the Gentiles, is no longer trodden down but is made the home for the Jews. They are returning to Palestine, and by this we may know that the times of the Gentiles are near their close.” Joseph Fielding Smith, Apr. 1966. I feel that Ezra Taft Benson reiterated that the times of the Gentiles are near their close. He also stated it was from the time the gospel was restored (1830). So... how are they both right? President Smith was talking about the 'gospel' and President Benson was speaking of the restored or 'fulness of the gospel'. In President Benson's talk he makes a distinction between the two. The majority of the gentiles have been rejecting the 'fulness of the gospel' (Book of Mormon, prophets, modern revelation) for a long time, many are now rejecting the 'gospel' (the Bible) as it was originally accepted by them.
I used to take the words of the prophet as a sense of urgency that the 2nd coming could be any day. Once I realized that every prophet since Joseph Smith has talked about the 2nd coming being at the doorstep, it was frustrating trying to determine what "soon" meant. I instead turned to studying the signs rather of listening to the same variances of "it's really close." I appreciate these types of videos to help guide in my studies, and I at least feel more confident that I'll be able to recognize the true signs when they are happening.
Let me tell you that my repentance changed dramatically when I realized the second coming is soon. Even if it takes another century for Christ to return I now have a healthy relationship with Jesus Christ. When you stop procrastinating your repentance God starts to reveal himself to you. "And now, my beloved brethren, I desire that ye should remember these things, and that ye should work out your salvation with fear before God, and that ye should no more deny the coming of Christ;" (Alma 34:37)
Check out Christian Homestead's spreadsheet on this. The mentions of the second coming have ramped up big time in recent years. And after that, just read every talk from the last 3-5 years from the prophet and tell me if you catch a theme.
With as many videos as you have made about the 2nd coming and the signs and events leading up to it, one thing stands out as being clear from them... that the subject of the matter appears more complicated than it is simple 🙏
President Nelson-“Two things that need to happen before the Lord returns, first the gathering of Israel to the extent the Lord see’s fit, and second, the Lord comes.”
People comment with this quote all the time but no one has been able to point me to the source. Perhaps since you put it in quotes you know the original source?
@@GospelLessons1 Someone took a video of the apostle saying it and I watched it but can’t remember who it was now😅. Anyways, I’m sure the gathering will continue on till the Savior comes and other things are going on🤷🏼♀️
Elder Treadway of the Seventy, February 3, 2024 said it in Southern California stake conference. I think the channel Temples of Jesus posted the video. I’m sure it wasn’t supposed to be recorded but it’s there.
Same review for all of your videos - interesting, thought provoking, some things I agree with, some things I don't, some things sound sane, some sound crazy, but Hey I'm still coming back for more.
If we only rely on opinion of what we think the scriptures mean we are not becoming righteous. The process of becoming righteous includes seeking out and receiving personal revelation. This is how we build upon the rock of Christ. If we have not received the spirit of revelation and prophecy to see how god understands the scriptures we will be deceived. Those who have been fed by the Good Shepard will regularly tell the people they teach to seek out answers from God for themselves. Those that are hungry tend to forget to remind those they teach to approach God to know the truth for themselves.
There is no process of becoming righteous. One is either 100% righteous or they are not at all righteous. You do not at all understand the Bible and are completely Biblically illiterate, and this is why you have been snared into the Godless abomination of mormonism. Repent!
We tend to place all prophecies here in America but it seems to me that we need to include the world. There are starving people everywhere. I realize that famines will take place near the end but how close? President Nelson seems to think it is very close to His return but a lot of members think it could be another hundred years. I have to believe the prophet. Elder Featherstone left his message to us in the cornerstone saying something about 2033 being after the Savior came. The point seems to be that we must watch for the signs of Christ's coming. So exciting!
You keep saying this happens “prior to the second coming”, but as you know, that can be misleading since there are many appearances as part of His second coming. Most of The big signs seem to happen before His coming to the Jews and before His coming to the world in glory. Very few in my opinion need to happen before he could make an appearance to His saints and then a few more signs are needed before He comes to an established Zion. Most saints are looking for those earlier comings of His. This may be a big source as to why those who feel it is much closer can not see eye to eye with your view that EVERYTHING must still be fulfilled before we start thinking that way. We are looking at two different comings. I know you understand this doctrine because you mention different comings but then you say “this all must happen before His coming” which is only true of certain of His appearances.
@@elliotmorrell425 I agree and have asked this question before. The signs of the last days is really what we’re all discussing. We know of at least 4 appearances, which together would make up His Second Coming. There are different signs associated with each appearance. Yes, His final coming in glory may be far off, but other comings, such as on the Mount of Olives could very well be imminent. We should be prepared for all of them because they come with judgments and blessings.
It seems to me that all the bad stuff is supposed to happen before the 2nd Coming and the rest of the good stuff is supposed to happen after. All the bad stuff that is left could easily happen during the 3 1/2 years.
But then Elder Holland in April 2024 General Conference ends his talk “do not delay; it’s getting late”. That was 12.5 years ago. How are we supposed to interpret that as members?
The fact is, the Godless abomination of mormonism is a 100% false manmade fraud. All those snared into this antigod, antibible, antichrist religion will all be thrown into the lake of fire for all eternity. Repent and get away from this Godless abomination!
We talk easily about how we will go to Missouri and build the New Jerusalem. But what must be the conditions in our land in order for that to happen? Will the City of Independence and State of Missouri just step aside and allow us to waltz in and build a new city? Will the federal government have nothing to say about this? I think that it is self evident that in order for us to fulfill the prophecy regarding building the New Jerusalem that the local, state, and federal governments must first have collapsed. That's what happened to the Nephites. Their government collapsed and the people divided themselves into tribes. I expect that we will see something similar. But imagine the kinds of events that would lead up to and bring about the collapse of government, and the chaos that would result. The very fact that the Lord has revealed that we will build the New Jerusalem tells me that we must pass through great tribulation first.
Listen to President Nelson’s talk , Oct 2024 General Conference? I don’t think events are going to happen how you think they will happen. Second coming is very close. 3 years? 6 years? But less than 10 years away. I personally think it’s only 3 years away. But I have no great insight. Just my personal belief.
I thought President Hinckley said that the following had already happened. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come. Take a look at his talk “Living in the Fullness of Times” October 2001 General Conference. I may be wrong and will appreciate any insight. Thank you.
Elder Christopherson stated during a general conference in 2019 that the gospel had been preached in ALL the world so for sure when you count 30 countries left without the church is misinterpreted by you. Perhaps is due to the fact that the real meaning of nation is not synonymous to independent state. In other words there’s one Arab nation even though there ara tens of Arab states. That can be applied to Hispanic countries so Cuba even though is an independent state is part of the Hispanic nation. You have to review the way for approaching things for they can’t contradict general conferences.
"When the testimony of the Elders ceases to be given, and the Lord says to them, “Come home; I will now preach my own sermons to the nations of the earth,” all you now know can scarcely be called a preface to the sermon that will be preached with fire and sword, tempests, earthquakes, hail, rain, thunders and lightnings, and fearful destruction. What matters the destruction of a few railway cars? You will hear of magnificent cities, now idolized by the people, sinking in the earth, entombing the inhabitants. The sea will heave itself beyond its bounds, engulfing mighty cities. Famine will spread over the nations and nation will rise up against nation, kingdom against kingdom and states against states, in our own country and in foreign lands; and they will destroy each other, caring not for the blood and lives of their neighbors, of their families, or for their own lives" (Discourses of Brigham Young, 111-12).
What do you think of the Isaiah Institute and their translation of Isaiah? Their claim, which seems well substantiated with the imbedded literary structures in the book, is that the book of Isaiah is written specifically about the end-time events right before the Second Coming and into the Millennium (people, places, and events act as types of future events). What about the Davidic Servant, who is the forerunner to Christ's Second Coming and acts as the counterbalance to the Anti-Christ?
Interesting you should say that because Satan attempts to replicate everything God does, so if he has the Antichrist in physical form we should have something like that in comparison. It only makes sense..
I thought that Isaiah being about the last days and 2nd coming was common knowledge. Yeah, what is that Davidic servant deal? Sounds like a Church President.
Some characteristics of the Davidic servant from the book of Isaiah (this is not a comprehensive list): -Name is David -Face will be marred -Hidden from the world until his calling (probably means not current apostles) -Leads the efforts to restore the house of Israel -Initiates the rebuilding of the third temple -Brings forth additional scripture Isaiah describes him like Moses, Cyrus, and King David. Maybe he’ll be ordained like King David was by the prophet Samuel.
Good presentation. I do like hearing your "long game" take on the timeline to balance out all of the "imminent" versions. I like the organization of events. I'm going to look through your references. I think many don't doubt that these prophecies need to be fulfilled but believe they could happen in short order, using Joseph Smith-Mathew 1: 20. Your timeline does feel like a long drawn out calamitous time period. Can the Saints endure punch after punch for years on end?
The _first_ sign of the end times is the appearance of the end-time restoring Elias who restores all things, as prophesied by Jesus in Matt. 17:10-11. Prior to Elias showing up on the scene, we will remain in *the times of types and shadows* , which are the times immediately preceding the end times, and which only manifest out-of-order prophetic _shadows_ and types, not the literal fulfillment of end-time prophecy. After Elias appears, he will proceed to _destroy the shadows_ and then he will _initiate_ the end times, causing all end-time prophecies to _literally_ fulfill and _in their correct order_ . Your video gives an excellent review of the multitude of prophecies that must be fulfilled by Elias, but this is not all. Elias will bring forth other records, which contain many other end-time prophecies, which he will be tasked with making come to pass exactly as spoken by the prophets. His is the "all things" mission, therefore God had his ancients prophets prophecy _all things_ so that there would a challenge meet for Elias. Just as Isaiah 48:5-6 (which speaks of the end-time restoring Elias) said that "it is a light thing" (it is too small a task) for Elias to restore Israel (and thus he also needs to be a light to the Gentiles and be God's "salvation unto the end of the earth"), so it is too easy for Elias to fulfill a small number of end-time prophecies. Therefore the prophecies were multiplied, seemingly _endlessly_ , and the new scriptures will show this, so as to make his mission a real challenge to complete.
President Hinckley said the prophesy of Joel (the pillars of smoke, the sun being darkened, and the moon turned to blood) had been fulfilled, didn't he? Also, didn't President Nelson say the only two things that still need to be fulfilled before Christ comes are the gathering of Israel and Christ returning?
Could you make a video that maps all of this to the events of the Book of Mormon? Something I’ve noticed is that there is a lot that happens in scripture that’s a type of future events and the Savior’s visit to the Americas is one massive type for the last days. SOOO many times when I watch your videos I think “oh that reminds me of this thing that happened in the Book of Mormon” or I’ll read be reading in it and think “oh that’s just like this prophecy about the last days” I understand that that might take a while to put together but it would likely add a 3rd/4th witness to what you’ve laid out here
The "Great Scourge" could certainly be the Famine or the " noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image."
I wonder if we’re in the scourge now. A scourge is a whipping or to make suffer.. If Covid was the desolating sickness.. which it did make people desolate. Isolating ourselves in our homes and people dying alone in hospitals… but the scourge comes after that… people are suffering with the economy right now.. high inflation.. can’t make bills.. debt..? I dunno.. just thinking.
Love your work. Just a thought about the earthquake, scourge etc. maybe those things won’t be as enormous as some think? Scriptures say he comes as a thief in the night right? Part of that meaning is that if we aren’t watching we may be taken by surprise and it might serve those not watching as a thief in the night if they were not such unusually enormous events? Pretty sure if there was an apocalyptic event many more people would wake up to that. 🤷♀️
I think the Spanish flu qualifies as the great scourge. A third of the world population died from that. Yes 1918 was a long time ago but not from the Lords point of view.
those who aren't watching will most likely be those who don't believe, therefore nothing will convince them until the actual coming happens. Then they will wish to hide or pull the mountains down upon themselves out of fear. Joseph Smith says the sign of coming of the Son of Man will be written off as a planet or comet and not seen as a spiritual sign at all.
There’s so much that needs to happen, like it needs to get so much worse, so much. I don’t know why people think it’s in the next 10 years, that might have to do with Ezra Eagle theory. Or it being “200 years” after christs resurrection. I hope for his coming but I doubt I will even be here when it happens, I’m 33. I do believe our next prophet will be pivotal in helping protect the church then after his Death things will start to get really bad. I think it will get to the point we won’t have a church anymore. That I can see in my lifetime. Thank you for your videos and being a more sound mind.
The rock cut out of the mountain without hands continues to grow. The rock has been interpreted by prophets to be the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. Daniel 2 and OT institute manual.
Regarding the earthquake, we know that can’t have happened yet as Rev 16:18 says it will be greater than any prior and 3 Nephi 10 basically says their earthquake lasted for three days (and there’s greater descriptions in chapter 8). I don’t think we’ve seen one of that magnitude in recent years.
6:11 Do you have a source for the "missionaries being called home"? I've heard it before but I can't place the source, however there are several sources that say missionary work will continue until the second coming. It may shift from the gentiles to the House of Israel/Jews, but it will not end. And if it does say that somewhere (I know you love these examples) it has already happened during covid ;)
It is a statement said to be made by Joseph Smith and can be found in the Juvenile Instructor, Vol. XXVII, 1892, p. 492. The Juvenile Instructor is an old periodical of sorts and can be found in the Church History Catalog. Here's an excerpt: When the Prophet had ended telling how he had been treated, Brother Behunnin remarked: 'If I should leave this Church I would not do as those men have done: I would go to some remote place where Mormonism had never been heard of settle down, and no one would ever learn that I knew anything about it.' The great Seer immediately replied : 'Brother Behunnin, you don't know what you would do. No doubt these men once thought as you do. Before you joined this Church you stood on neutral ground. When the gospel was preached good and evil were set before you. You could choose either or neither. There were two opposite masters inviting you to serve them. When you joined this Church you enlisted to serve God. When you did that you left the neutral ground, and you never can get back on to it. Should you forsake the Master you enlisted to serve it will be by the instigation of the evil one, and you will follow his dictation and be his servant.' He emphasized the fact that a man or woman who had not taken sides either with Christ or belial could maintain a neutral position, but when they enlisted under either the one or the other they left the neutral ground forever.
I actually think that is a Neal Maxwell quote from 1996 conference talk. I don’t think Joseph Smith ever said it. I could be wrong. I asked him for his source as well.
@@sultryglebe Okay. Well the source I provided is church published and was published 1892 and the article is a personal experience this person had hearing Joseph state those words. So . . .
The phrase as quoted is actually from Neal A. Maxwell who paraphrased a statement by Brigham Young (ournal of Discourses (Vol. 8, pp. 130-131) who I believe said he heard it from Joseph Smith.
I didn’t know that the Time of the Gentiles needed to happen before the Time of the Jews. Ngl your in-depth work on this deserves a sub. Your explanation for “Gospel taught in All the World” is factual. The following countries do not have any members or missionaries: Abkhazia, Akrotiri and Dhekelia, Āland, Anguilla, Artsakh, British Indian Ocean Territory, Christmas Island, Cocos Island, Faroe Islands, Liechtenstein, Maceodonia, Monaco, Montserrat, Norfolk Island, North Macedonia, North Ossetia-Alania, Northern Cyprus, Palestine, Pitcairn Islands, Saba, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Helena Ascension and Tristan da Cunha, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, San Marino, Senegal, Sint Eustatius, Somaliland, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, South Ossetia, Spratly Islands, Tokelau, Transnistria, U.S. Minor Outlying Islands, Vatican City, Wallis and Futuna.
I don’t think “gospel” only refers to the restored Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There are Christians in many of the countries you listed.
Country boundaries are in constant flux. Not sure we can be that literal as to call this prophecy unfulfilled unless every man-made boundary has received its own personal message. Fifteen years ago we had members in Sudan, but civil war created South Sudan. So now the prophecy can’t be fulfilled without members in South Sudan? And we can have the message preached to everyone around the tiny 5-mile radius country of Monaco, but unless Monaco specifically hears it, it doesn’t count? What if Spain absorbs Monaco? Then we can say ok, technically now every country has heard the message?
Most of those countries have the internet where the gospel can be found also we must remember John the beloved and the three Nephites can teach anywhere they are called to.
I'm not sure this is accurate. I took stats from the church's website and there were very few that didn't have at least one branch or gathering in the church that meets regularly, it was less than 15.
You’re speaking a little fast for most of us and the playback speed is to slow at 0.75 the normal speed is to fast. In case you don’t know it’s adjustable in the gear icon of the upper right hand corner. Thanks for your work.
Looking at this time line you place Christ's 2nd coming in glory at the end of the millennium. I have always understood that he will be the King during the millennium. Which of your videos should I rewatch to gain more clarity on this?
@GospelLessons1 Excellent video! Although, I was surprised to hear that you hold to a belief in THE (singular) Anti-Christ. As far as I can find (and I've looked), this is not an LDS doctrine. It seems to be one that we've borrowed from our evangelical cousins. None of the prophets or apostles have taught it. They have taught about multiple anti-Christ's rising in the last days, but as far as a singular ONE person Anti-Christ, they're always referring to Lucifer himself. Richard Draper addressed this in his fantastic commentary on the Book of Revelation. He said (and sorry if this is long, but it's an excellent explanation of where this seems to come from and why it is incorrect): "Many works on Revelation use the term Antichrist as a synonym for the beast. Such a designation really does not work. Admittedly, from the early Christian period on, some Christians felt that an evil individual would arise in the last days who would oppose God. The idea is based on the logical assumption that the antichrist is the exact counterpoint to the Lord himself. The problem is that there is no mention of an antichrist anywhere in Revelation. The term shows up only in 1 John 2:18-22; 4:3; and 2 John 1:7, and in each instance identifies certain heretics living in John's day who taught false doctrines about Jesus, most notably those who ascribed to the docetist position (defined below). The menacing nature of the term, however, has made it catch on. A number of people, over the ages, have kept the idea of eschatological opponents of Christ alive. On this subject, two LDS scholars have noted that, 'The Greek preposition anti, roughly translated, means instead of. It also carried the meaning of 'face to face' or mirror image. The image in the mirror, looking back at you, is face to face with you. It looks like you. Yet it has no substance. It is a counterfeit of you, in a sense. It only appears to be you. So when John in his epistles spoke of antichrists, he was speaking of the belief of the Gnostics that God is a substanceless spirit rather than a resurrected being...Such a god is like the image in the mirror - really nothing, a counterfeit. Through the centuries thereafter, the term antichrist became Anti-Christ, and by Joseph Smith's day it referred to those who oppose Christ.' Today many believe in THE Anti-Christ, the definite article being important for it points to a definite person but, as noted, these people have taken the idea out of context and transformed and imposed it on the last days. It is not scriptural. There is another view that fits better with Revelation and which has been promulgated from the earliest times. This is that antichrist (note the absence of the definite article) is an evil power or spiritual influence that permeates the last days inspiring those who succumb to its spell to preach false doctrines and do the work of devils. Indeed, John warned the Saints that 'every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that of antichrist' (1 Jn 4:3). Thus, the spirit of antichrist is that which teaches false doctrines about Christ. John goes on to warn, 'wherefore ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world' (1 Jn. 4:3). Thus, John reveals that its work had already begun and, in Revelation, he shows it would continue. Still, it never manifests itself as the hypothesized "Anti-Christ," the eschatological figure with near superhuman powers that plays such a big part in evangelical expectations. It is best to understand 'antichrist,' then, as the malevolent evil spirit that permeates the last days and is promulgated by the dragon and his minions." (The Revelation of John the Apostle BYU New Testament Commentary Series)
Hi Gospel Lessons, would you ever consider doing a video on whether or not LDS believe in an infinite regress of Gods and how God the Father was a man? Many LDS apologists and scholars like Blake Ostler, Jacob Hansen, and Robert Boylan argue strongly against infinite regress and that when God the Father was a man it was much like how Jesus was a man, but from what I've seen it is a common speculative belief among members that there is an infinite regress of Gods and God the Father was just a random man who was exalted by being faithful. From what I've read in the gospel topics essays it seems like the Church doesn't have an official stance but I feel like canonized scripture and teachings from prophets lean more towards the LDS apologists understanding.
"Infinite regress," as some have called it, is the more standard or "orthodox" view of most of the Church, including it's leaders. The view held by those you listed above is the outlier and, frankly, seems to be a combination of old sectarian Christian views of God mixed with LDS theology. As one prophet, Lorenzo Snow said, "As man now is, God once was. As God now is, man may be."
@jaredshipp9207 Yeah, that doesn't necessarily imply infinite regression, though that only says God was once mortal on an earth like we are, and one day, we will be resurrected and perfect and reign with God. However, Jesus was a man like we are once, and when he was a man, he was sinless and divine still before he was resurrected and perfected, and before he was man, he was the God of Israel. Even if there is infinite regress of Gods I think from the King Follet discourse it's heavily implied that when God the Father was a man he was sinless and divine and that's what Jesus based how to live his life. Given the King Follet discourse explains how the plan of salvation was authored by God the Father and that's what enables us to progress like him and the many times Joseph talks about a head God you can build a strong argument against infinite regress. The sermon on the grove is one of the better supports for infinite regression. One of the things written is, "But the holy ghost is yet a spiritual body and waiting to take to himself a body. as the Savior did or as god did or the gods before them took bodies," from that statement and others it looks like members of the Godhead when they descend to mortality are sinless and divine. it is worth it to note that "the gods before them" could be interpreted in a way to make it fit without an infinite regress model. It's just something that needs expanding on by prophets and apostles and needs to be interpreted by them because people can argue back and forth about it, but I don't think we'll get an answer soon because the gathering of israel and raising up a nation of celestial minded people for the millennium are more important. When Gordon B. Hinckley was prophet he was asked in an interview about God being man he said "‘I don’t know that we teach it. I don’t know that we emphasize it ... I understand the philosophical background behind it, but I don’t know a lot about it, and I don’t think others know a lot about it,’" so I don't think it's really a major area of concern from the general authority because there's bigger fish to fry for them. until an apostle or prophet comes forth with a well transcribed revelation or interpretation of the text that supports infinite regress or no infinite regress, people will just argue back and forth.
@@dr.downsyndrome1844 I'd argue "Head God" simply means The Father was preeminent among those of His children who had also attained godhood by that point, i.e. Jehovah and the Holy Spirit. Not that He was the first of all with no Creator of His own. That's just Blake Ostler, Jacob, etc. bringing sectarian theology and ex-nihilo back into it. This life is a microcosm of the eternities with each son having a father before he becomes one himself. I'm not sure how our Father in Heaven would have lived as a mortal on an earth with nobody to resurrect him (or our Heavenly Mother for that matter). Moreover, if that were the case, then we really are different from Him (which again is what the sectarian Christians believe) and it would be highly questionable how much we could ever truly be like Him.
@jaredshipp9207 I mean the King Follet discourse says that God the Father resurrected via his own power or at least that was my interpretation of "as the Father hath power in himself, even so hath the Son power-to do what? Why, what the Father did. The answer is obvious-in a manner to lay down his body and take it up again." We're the same species as God, just in different states of our development. As Abraham 3:18-19 says when we were intelligences, we differed in greatness and intelligences, but God the Father is the most intelligent which Joseph talks about in the King Follet discourse when he says "The first principles of man are self-existent with God. God himself, finding he was in the midst of spirits and glory, because he was more intelligent, saw proper to institute laws whereby the rest could have a privilege to advance like himself. The relationship we have with God places us in a situation to advance in knowledge. He has power to institute laws to instruct the weaker intelligences, that they may be exalted with Himself. " We're not created and neither was God because Gods can't be created they just exist which is why Isaiah 43:10 doesn't conflict with our theology despite so many protestants using it as a gotcha. The way i see it is the difference between us and our Heavenly Father is that he's vastly more intelligent and can organize matter(which we'll have the ability to do if we inherit celestial glory) which he did to create us spiritual bodies and create a way which we may advance and be like him. For Heavenly Mother, the most we know is that she exists, she loves us, and she's important, but we haven't had any specifics revealed to us, so anything about her origin or role not spoken by an apostle or prophet is speculation. It really just boils down to how you interpret what is being said by Joseph and other prophets and so until a modern prophet provides authoritative clarification and more revelation on whether it's infinite regress or that Heavenly Father is the most supreme and started the chain of Gods, people will just argue which way we should interpret texts and what's right. We'll just have to wait and see what's revealed in the future to get a clear answer, which I don't think will happen soon because there's more important things.
I know the second coming will happen soon, His return is imminent. The lord shall compress events for the good of the righteous, sad to see so many wondering at noon day about this matter. Today is the day to prepare to meet the Lord at His second coming.
It sounds to me like you're expecting every sign to be obvious and in our faces; visible to all. How do you substantiate that when so much of God's communication is symbolic? How would He "come as a thief in the night" if the moon had literally turned to blood? I'm not saying you're wrong, but you don't seem to be giving any less personal opinion that other people who do videos on this topic. Personally, my family's lives have changed drastically since we started preparing for an imminent day. We aren't holding our breath or setting a date to it, but realizing that the gathering of Israel needs to be our top priority has changed the way we live. I know it's similar for many.
I just want to know when the building of New Jerusalem will begin. Is it true that the City of Zion will come down again and this will be in Adam Ondi Ahman?
4:44 Aren't ALL people who are not direct descendent Israelites and not under the covenanant considered 'Gentiles'? Not just Christians that are not under the covenant.
i wonder if youve changed your mind and those in these comments have, due to the prophet telling everyone that "Christ is Coming" and that it is emminant. These signs can be done in the span of 3 and a half years. It doesnt have to be one by one. I pray that you truly reconsider Ezra Eagle and the other Prophecies in Esdras. The Esdras books are inspired and it would be foolosh to not heed them.
Where do you get the idea that the dead sea would be healed BEFORE the 2nd coming? That doesn't make sense. The healing of the Dead Sea, as described in Ezekiel and Zechariah, is generally understood to take place after the Second Coming, during the millennial reign of Christ. This healing is part of a broader vision of restoration and renewal that characterizes the period following Christ’s return.
So are we interpreting the leaders of the church incorrectly when those words they speak suggest to so many that the the second coming is imminent? Or are they just using the same type of language given in the modern revelations contained in the D&C - "even at the doors"? Why do you think our leaders, who have authority to interpret scripture, don't speak much of the prophecies and signs, or lay out relative timelines like you have attempted to do? Does this suggest that we shouldn't talk about it or teach of it either? Instead, study it out on our own and keep it to ourselves?
I agree that all need to be fulfilled for Jesus to come in Red and usher in the millennium, but I’m looking forward to Adam ondi omen, or his appearance to the Jews first. Might be a lot quicker than we all think
Why is everyone herein ignoring that all professied events in Revelation, (except for the white throne judgement of the last days) occurred at the end of the first century? Why is everyone herein ignoring that Jesus Christ repeatedly said His second coming was imminent and “coming quickly” and within the lifetime of many of His (their present) disciples?
@kaylahall1219 Yes, in antiquity, her name was Babylon. However, in modern times, Babylon can refer to "the world." But "the center place" of modern day Babylon has a name. Her name is...
Wait if the moment that the Jews accept the gospel of JC is when they would see him coming with power, how is it posible that the time of the gentiles has to be over and deliver to the Jews again before the second coming? Well this is my answer, I think is because the scriptures consider Jews also to those who are the descendants of the Lamanites, in the Book of Mormon says that they are also Jews, maybe this prophecy about the end of the times of the gentiles is referring to the Lamanites, who now are in South America in their majority where the church is really strong. And about Missouri, there was a temple who was built there and destroyed or almost built and there is a scripture on DyC that if they have worked so hard to built one and it was not posible because of the opposition then the Lord requires no more, maybe one temple that is already built in Missouri or maybe SLC temple. Well this is only my opinion. Thank you for the video
Have you read “Visions of Glory”? I feel like it follows your timeline well. Maybe you have already done a video of it. I like your videos. The truth is; any of us could die at any moment. Repent now and don’t procrastinate the day of your salvation, my friends. Be prepared to meet Him at any moment. Be a virgin with a full lamp.
Well, this is kind of disappointing. If all of what you’ve said is correct and true (and I tend to think it is) than, I’m going to extend my thought of thinking the second coming was within the next 20 years, to the next 200 years. I will die before that and experience my own second coming, but I must admit I really wanted to be here living on the earth when it happened. I’m 45. ☹️
The second coming is very close. Did you listen to president Nelson's talk in Sunday afternoon session of the October 2024 General Conference? President Nelson has been making many comments about the imminence of the second coming. You and I will still be alive when the Christ comes unless we die prematurely.
@@davidroberts2927 yes, but everything that still needs to happen will take many, many years. The prophets have said it’s close for years and in the grand scheme of things, I’m sure it is, but there’s still A LOT that hasn’t happened according to this video. I don’t think everything can happen in just a couple years just using logic alone, but I can hope!
I wanted to say thank you for the content you put on here! I'm currently working on trying to make content like this on my channel and was wondering if you'd like to make a video together:)
I am convinced that the Second Coming will happen the day after I make my last student loan payment. So, you know, not any time soon.
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haha this is awesome!
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@@sultryglebe maybe we should just take out a loan and pay it off now so Jesus can come more quickly. My wife’s loan seems to be growing instead of shrinking lol
LOL!
9:35 Matthew 24:21-22: "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be SHORTENED."
I was born in 88; days now feel shorter than when I was young. Idk why that is. 🤷🏻♀️
President Nelson says we are in the bottom of the 9th inning. The thing about innings are…they don’t end until all the outs (prophecies) are fulfilled. There isn’t a ticking clock on that. An obviously inspired analogy.
I like your inspired look into what Nelson said and what it means to you. This is what came to my mind when hearing him: Prophet Quote, "Using a baseball analogy, we are in the last half of the ninth inning. Our Heavenly Father and His Son chose you to be on their team when the game’s on the line..."
For people that love baseball, the last half of the ninth inning is known as the bottom of the inning, which is... the end of the game, when the home team is at bat, the score is not tied, the game is about to be over; the end game; the final chance!. - Search the baseball-almanac if you need a source.
Lastly, I do not appreciate Gospel Lessons interpreting the prophets words for me and others. Although, I came up with something different from you, I more appreciate what you had to say and I liked your words. Just like the scriptures, each of us pulls something out that we need for us at this time! The quote ends "...This means they know you. They trust you and they’ll help you fulfill your personal mission on this earth." - Russel M Nelson.
So every knee will bow when Christ comes, but at least at the beginning of Christs return many will be Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, and other forms of Christianity
As for the “Great Famine”: There are many factors that could contribute to famine in a very short period of time, including:
1. Political and Social Factors:
* Conflict and War: Armed conflicts can disrupt agriculture, displace populations, and damage infrastructure, leading to food shortages.
* Illegal Immigration: Large movements of people (and terrorist attacks) can strain food resources in host regions.
* Political Instability: Governments struggling with corruption, poor governance, or ineffective policies can exacerbate food insecurity. (already happening)
2. Economic Factors:
* Hyperinflation: Rapid increases in prices can erode purchasing power, making food unaffordable for many people. (already happening)
* Economic Instability: Financial crises and economic downturns can disrupt food production and distribution systems. (Stock Market Crash this winter)
* Market Disruptions: Trade restrictions, tariffs, and supply chain issues can limit access to food and increase prices.
3. Environmental Factors:
* Drought: Extended periods of low rainfall or significant amounts of water being poisoned can severely impact crop production and water availability, leading to food shortages.
* Natural Disasters: Events like earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, and wormwood can disrupt food production and distribution.
4. Agricultural and Technological Factors:
* Crop Failures: Diseases, pests, or climate-related issues can lead to significant losses in crop yields.
* Livestock Diseases: Outbreaks of diseases affecting livestock can reduce meat and dairy supplies.
* Technological Limitations: Lack of access to modern farming technology and techniques (EMP)
5. Supply Chain Disruptions:
* Transportation Issues: Problems with transportation infrastructure or logistics can hinder the distribution of food products.
* Labor Shortages: A lack of workers in agriculture or food processing sectors can reduce food availability. (Pandemic)
6. Health Crises:
* Pandemics: Widespread health crises can disrupt food production and distribution systems, affecting food security.
* Nutritional Deficiencies: Public health issues related to nutrition can impact food access and quality. (already happening)
This is awesome, thanks for sharing! 💕
Exactly! Every morning during the pandemic shut down I woke up and said" I can't believe this is happening! Is this real?" Yes ! And it happened over night well in a few short weeks and the whole world 🌎 shut down!! The whole world shut down! Its still hard to believe it happened. That is an important lesson we should retain a memory of. Unfathomable big events could happen fast and simultaneously.
May also refer to a spiritual famine
Elder Gerrit W. Gong of the Quorum of the Twelve said Wednesday, March 13, 2024
“Throughout the ongoing Restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ, emergent technologies - including in construction, communication and transportation - have allowed this great work to reach out and touch every nation, kindred, tongue and people,” Elder Gong said as he began a presentation to thousands of Church employees around the world.
The point was also made on another channel that I liked that with all of the refugee migration that has happened in Europe and the US, it has allowed many individuals coming from those nations not currently allowing proselyting from our missionaries, to hear the gospel preached unto them. They can come to us, we don't have to go to them.
Reaching out and touching may not necessarily be the same as the gospel being preached. At any rate, that is a very interesting quote to consider.
We can also make a distinction between the restoration of the gospel (ongoing) and the restoration of the house of Israel (yet to be fulfilled)
This is lovely and part of me thinks I should do this. But honestly raising kids in this time is so hard. They suck up persistent false rhetoric and they are leaving the church. Sometimes I feel like I have to say hey, look around you, its happening.
Well yes it has touched all nations. But doesn't it need to be freely taught in all nations without hindrance from governments? Or am I misunderstanding? I think what would happen to open doors for this is world war 3. Much like how world war 2 opened things up. If world war 3 ends up being china, iran, north korea, and russia against everyone else and they lose, then we could open things up for a time of freely entering those nations.
Why do you believe the signs of the Second Coming will be unmistakable? The signs of His first coming apparently escaped detection in the old world just fine.
Joseph Fielding Smith, in Conference Report, Apr. 1966: "The words of the prophets are rapidly being fulfilled, but it is done on such natural principles that most of us fail to see it."
There are certain major key events that will for those who pay attention and are righteous to likely notice and take heed to, but many we will have no idea and it is told Christ will come like a thief in the night.
Great question. I personally don’t think, to those who knew them, the signs escaped detection. I think they misunderstood them more than anything else.
To John the Baptist (the faithful) it was obvious. To the pharisees (the confused) it wasn't
I agree. Im not sure these signs will be unmistakenable. I think even the righteous may miss many of them because they want them to be bigger and louder. Like Kevin said, its fun to speculate but focusing on Christ and following Him is what matters most. :)
At my age, the second coming will be when I leave this frail existence and meet the Lord on the other side of the vail. For now! I watch with interest all the different interpretations of the second coming.🇦🇺🙏👍
I really appreciate your words of wisdom. My late father taught me, Almost Word for Word, which you are teaching me now. Thank you.
So I’ve printed out a timeline that a Jewish scholar mad for the last days and cross reference it with your timeline and it’s great 👍🏻 to see how each one works hand in hand. Thanks for sharing your timeline I’ve studied it for a year now it’s great insight and been a great blessing.
thanks for the refresher. Ive watched all of your videos, and I think you make the most sense, how youre able to tease apart all these separate events so well. I still have a hard time remembering all of these even though youve covered them all so well so many times.
Again, I really appreciate the review. Thanks for all your hard work.
I think any of these events could happen very quickly if God wants them to.
And many can happen simultaneously.
I heard a recent Church leader talk about a "compression of events".
@@generalpatton838 Yes, I've heard it here and there lately, too. I think the concept was most clearly spoken of by Elder Maxwell in April 1992. He said, Now, my brethren, “these are [your] days” (Hel. 7:9) in the history of the Church. Mark well what kind of days they will be, days when, with special visibility, the Lord will “make bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations.” (D&C 133:3.) God will also “hasten” His work. (D&C 88:73.) He will also “shorten” the last days “for the elect’s sake”; hence, there will be a compression of events. (Matt. 24:22; JS-M 1:20.) Furthermore, “all things shall be in commotion.” (D&C 88:91.) Only those in the process of becoming the men and women of Christ will be able to keep their spiritual balance.
Its closer than people realize
And further than we think.
Thank goodness
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What's your profile picture about ?
@@evelynspaghetti4978my thoughts exactly
Love it. I could listen to you go for hours. Thank you for your hard work and effort you put into these videos they are awesome
You have spoken so much pure unadulterated truth here. Withholding opinions and quoting scripture. This undoubtedly will anger many people especially if anything mentioned goes against their uninformed opinions or the cunning deceptions of authors. The idea of necessary prophecy fulfillment indicating a period of 20 to 30 years is a hard pill for some to swallow. Of course this doesn't mean we have that much time to prepare since that time will be filled with calamity and scarcity of food. It is very soon that this next chapter will take place. Christ being at the door is not necessarily a good thing altogether considering the judgments that He will first need to dish out. If we're prepared we will not fear.
Does quoting modern prophets and citing news articles and such count as "opinion"? Regardless of the content, framing and editing will always impart its own editorial.
Loved your videos about rhe second coming and their clarity- then I started to read through the comments and found so many people still missing the plot! No wonder our Lord refers to us as sheep, we scatter in all directions at the least provocation. Please keep faith with your generous insights - you can see how much they are needed!
My whole life I grew up in the gospel, and that the Savior was coming soon, those coming soon events have come and gone. 65 years later we are still waiting for that day. Because of that narrow minded thinking, fear and forgetting to prepare for a lifetime of mortality is now showing up. It is time to live your life following gospel principles, and see the wonderful experiences this mortality has to teach you. I have taught my Grandkids that you will live along and wonderful life. Don't be blinded by what you can't control. You will raise and wonderful family and one day have grandkids of your own, teach them to find hope in Christ and joy in mortality. That is what I needed to hear when I was a young man.
That's because Christianity is not what it is suppose to be. They teach alot of false doctrine and believe what they get spoon feed only in seminaries owned by freemasons / Satan.
Home-run Kevin! If we keep 1st things 1st and give heed to our prophets then the weightier matters of the gospel will be accomplished in our lives and we will be ready on both sides of the veil to receive Him. keep up the good work!
We talked about this last Sunday school in my ward and I whispered that I hope I don't have to drag my old carcass into the millennium and still have to make dinner. The lady behind whispered back, only if you are going to the telestial. If you get to terrestrial. We just have to make lunch and celestial, we don't have to worry about it. My husband then chimed in he will need a full course meal. But all we can do is be prepared for bad things to come and look forward to the good
“Newcomers, you may even see a few leave the Church who cannot then leave the Church alone.”
Neal A Maxwell, Ensign Nov 1980, pg 14. (from his conference talk). He later says this again in a 1996 conference talk and references the 1980 talk where he invented the phrase. Joseph Smith and others may have recognized the phenomenon, but never said this. It is signature Maxwell wordplay.
President Joseph Fielding Smith (The Signs of the Lord's Coming) defined the "Times of the Gentiles" a bit differently than Ezra Taft Benson, "The times of the Gentiles commenced shortly after the death of our Redeemer. The Jews soon rejected the Gospel and it was then taken to the Gentiles… Jesus said the Jews would be scattered among all nations and Jerusalem would be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles were fulfilled. (Luke 21:24) The prophecy in Section 45, verses 24-29, of the Doctrine and Covenants regarding the Jews was literally fulfilled. Jerusalem, which was trodden down by the Gentiles, is no longer trodden down but is made the home for the Jews. They are returning to Palestine, and by this we may know that the times of the Gentiles are near their close.” Joseph Fielding Smith, Apr. 1966. I feel that Ezra Taft Benson reiterated that the times of the Gentiles are near their close. He also stated it was from the time the gospel was restored (1830). So... how are they both right? President Smith was talking about the 'gospel' and President Benson was speaking of the restored or 'fulness of the gospel'. In President Benson's talk he makes a distinction between the two. The majority of the gentiles have been rejecting the 'fulness of the gospel' (Book of Mormon, prophets, modern revelation) for a long time, many are now rejecting the 'gospel' (the Bible) as it was originally accepted by them.
I used to take the words of the prophet as a sense of urgency that the 2nd coming could be any day. Once I realized that every prophet since Joseph Smith has talked about the 2nd coming being at the doorstep, it was frustrating trying to determine what "soon" meant. I instead turned to studying the signs rather of listening to the same variances of "it's really close." I appreciate these types of videos to help guide in my studies, and I at least feel more confident that I'll be able to recognize the true signs when they are happening.
Even the early disciples in the Bible thought it was very near. 🤷♀️
Let me tell you that my repentance changed dramatically when I realized the second coming is soon. Even if it takes another century for Christ to return I now have a healthy relationship with Jesus Christ. When you stop procrastinating your repentance God starts to reveal himself to you.
"And now, my beloved brethren, I desire that ye should remember these things, and that ye should work out your salvation with fear before God, and that ye should no more deny the coming of Christ;" (Alma 34:37)
Check out Christian Homestead's spreadsheet on this. The mentions of the second coming have ramped up big time in recent years. And after that, just read every talk from the last 3-5 years from the prophet and tell me if you catch a theme.
I think an interesting video would be prophecies/signs of the times that have already been fulfilled!
I always enjoy your videos! Excellent job!
Another fantastic video! Thank you!
With as many videos as you have made about the 2nd coming and the signs and events leading up to it, one thing stands out as being clear from them... that the subject of the matter appears more complicated than it is simple 🙏
President Nelson-“Two things that need to happen before the Lord returns, first the gathering of Israel to the extent the Lord see’s fit, and second, the Lord comes.”
People comment with this quote all the time but no one has been able to point me to the source. Perhaps since you put it in quotes you know the original source?
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Someone took a video of the apostle saying it and I watched it but can’t remember who it was now😅. Anyways, I’m sure the gathering will continue on till the Savior comes and other things are going on🤷🏼♀️
Elder Treadway of the Seventy, February 3, 2024 said it in Southern California stake conference. I think the channel Temples of Jesus posted the video. I’m sure it wasn’t supposed to be recorded but it’s there.
Though that doesn't say other things don't also need to happen. Just that those are two things that need to happen.
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Many will say: He delayeth His coming
Yep
Same review for all of your videos - interesting, thought provoking, some things I agree with, some things I don't, some things sound sane, some sound crazy, but Hey I'm still coming back for more.
Just helping the algorithm. Love it love it love it keep posting more.
If we only rely on opinion of what we think the scriptures mean we are not becoming righteous. The process of becoming righteous includes seeking out and receiving personal revelation. This is how we build upon the rock of Christ. If we have not received the spirit of revelation and prophecy to see how god understands the scriptures we will be deceived. Those who have been fed by the Good Shepard will regularly tell the people they teach to seek out answers from God for themselves. Those that are hungry tend to forget to remind those they teach to approach God to know the truth for themselves.
There is no process of becoming righteous. One is either 100% righteous or they are not at all righteous. You do not at all understand the Bible and are completely Biblically illiterate, and this is why you have been snared into the Godless abomination of mormonism. Repent!
We tend to place all prophecies here in America but it seems to me that we need to include the world. There are starving people everywhere. I realize that famines will take place near the end but how close? President Nelson seems to think it is very close to His return but a lot of members think it could be another hundred years. I have to believe the prophet.
Elder Featherstone left his message to us in the cornerstone
saying something about 2033 being after the Savior came. The point seems to be that we must watch for the signs of Christ's coming. So exciting!
Amazing video like always!
The more videos I see concerning this topic from many different u-tubers, the more I am convinced that NOBODY KNOWS when it will all happen.
You keep saying this happens “prior to the second coming”, but as you know, that can be misleading since there are many appearances as part of His second coming. Most of
The big signs seem to happen before His coming to the Jews and before His coming to the world in glory. Very few in my opinion need to happen before he could make an appearance to His saints and then a few more signs are needed before He comes to an established Zion. Most saints are looking for those earlier comings of His. This may be a big source as to why those who feel it is much closer can not see eye to eye with your view that EVERYTHING must still be fulfilled before we start thinking that way. We are looking at two different comings. I know you understand this doctrine because you mention different comings but then you say “this all must happen before His coming” which is only true of certain of His appearances.
I explain this in the video
@@elliotmorrell425 I agree and have asked this question before. The signs of the last days is really what we’re all discussing. We know of at least 4 appearances, which together would make up His Second Coming. There are different signs associated with each appearance. Yes, His final coming in glory may be far off, but other comings, such as on the Mount of Olives could very well be imminent. We should be prepared for all of them because they come with judgments and blessings.
It seems to me that all the bad stuff is supposed to happen before the 2nd Coming and the rest of the good stuff is supposed to happen after. All the bad stuff that is left could easily happen during the 3 1/2 years.
But then Elder Holland in April 2024 General Conference ends his talk “do not delay; it’s getting late”. That was 12.5 years ago. How are we supposed to interpret that as members?
The fact is, the Godless abomination of mormonism is a 100% false manmade fraud. All those snared into this antigod, antibible, antichrist religion will all be thrown into the lake of fire for all eternity. Repent and get away from this Godless abomination!
We talk easily about how we will go to Missouri and build the New Jerusalem. But what must be the conditions in our land in order for that to happen? Will the City of Independence and State of Missouri just step aside and allow us to waltz in and build a new city? Will the federal government have nothing to say about this? I think that it is self evident that in order for us to fulfill the prophecy regarding building the New Jerusalem that the local, state, and federal governments must first have collapsed. That's what happened to the Nephites. Their government collapsed and the people divided themselves into tribes. I expect that we will see something similar. But imagine the kinds of events that would lead up to and bring about the collapse of government, and the chaos that would result. The very fact that the Lord has revealed that we will build the New Jerusalem tells me that we must pass through great tribulation first.
I think we are watching this play out before our eyes in the world. Look at great Britain. Look at the US
Listen to President Nelson’s talk , Oct 2024 General Conference? I don’t think events are going to happen how you think they will happen. Second coming is very close. 3 years? 6 years? But less than 10 years away. I personally think it’s only 3 years away. But I have no great insight. Just my personal belief.
Why less than 10? I’d love to hear your thoughts
I thought President Hinckley said that the following had already happened.
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come.
Take a look at his talk “Living in the Fullness of Times” October 2001 General Conference.
I may be wrong and will appreciate any insight. Thank you.
Elder Christopherson stated during a general conference in 2019 that the gospel had been preached in ALL the world so for sure when you count 30 countries left without the church is misinterpreted by you. Perhaps is due to the fact that the real meaning of nation is not synonymous to independent state. In other words there’s one Arab nation even though there ara tens of Arab states. That can be applied to Hispanic countries so Cuba even though is an independent state is part of the Hispanic nation. You have to review the way for approaching things for they can’t contradict general conferences.
How about when the prophet said that, time is running out. And we're in the second half of the ninth inning?
"When the testimony of the Elders ceases to be given, and the Lord says to them, “Come home; I will now preach my own sermons to the nations of the earth,” all you now know can scarcely be called a preface to the sermon that will be preached with fire and sword, tempests, earthquakes, hail, rain, thunders and lightnings, and fearful destruction. What matters the destruction of a few railway cars? You will hear of magnificent cities, now idolized by the people, sinking in the earth, entombing the inhabitants. The sea will heave itself beyond its bounds, engulfing mighty cities. Famine will spread over the nations and nation will rise up against nation, kingdom against kingdom and states against states, in our own country and in foreign lands; and they will destroy each other, caring not for the blood and lives of their neighbors, of their families, or for their own lives" (Discourses of Brigham Young, 111-12).
@vanevans645 it didn't say they the Elders wouldn't return while His sermons of fire etc. went on. So this could already be happening.
What do you think of the Isaiah Institute and their translation of Isaiah? Their claim, which seems well substantiated with the imbedded literary structures in the book, is that the book of Isaiah is written specifically about the end-time events right before the Second Coming and into the Millennium (people, places, and events act as types of future events). What about the Davidic Servant, who is the forerunner to Christ's Second Coming and acts as the counterbalance to the Anti-Christ?
Interesting you should say that because Satan attempts to replicate everything God does, so if he has the Antichrist in physical form we should have something like that in comparison.
It only makes sense..
This!
I thought that Isaiah being about the last days and 2nd coming was common knowledge. Yeah, what is that Davidic servant deal? Sounds like a Church President.
I wonder if Elder David Bednar is the Davidic Servant?
Some characteristics of the Davidic servant from the book of Isaiah (this is not a comprehensive list):
-Name is David
-Face will be marred
-Hidden from the world until his calling (probably means not current apostles)
-Leads the efforts to restore the house of Israel
-Initiates the rebuilding of the third temple
-Brings forth additional scripture
Isaiah describes him like Moses, Cyrus, and King David. Maybe he’ll be ordained like King David was by the prophet Samuel.
excellent work. Thank you!
Good presentation. I do like hearing your "long game" take on the timeline to balance out all of the "imminent" versions. I like the organization of events. I'm going to look through your references. I think many don't doubt that these prophecies need to be fulfilled but believe they could happen in short order, using Joseph Smith-Mathew 1: 20. Your timeline does feel like a long drawn out calamitous time period. Can the Saints endure punch after punch for years on end?
The _first_ sign of the end times is the appearance of the end-time restoring Elias who restores all things, as prophesied by Jesus in Matt. 17:10-11. Prior to Elias showing up on the scene, we will remain in *the times of types and shadows* , which are the times immediately preceding the end times, and which only manifest out-of-order prophetic _shadows_ and types, not the literal fulfillment of end-time prophecy.
After Elias appears, he will proceed to _destroy the shadows_ and then he will _initiate_ the end times, causing all end-time prophecies to _literally_ fulfill and _in their correct order_ .
Your video gives an excellent review of the multitude of prophecies that must be fulfilled by Elias, but this is not all. Elias will bring forth other records, which contain many other end-time prophecies, which he will be tasked with making come to pass exactly as spoken by the prophets. His is the "all things" mission, therefore God had his ancients prophets prophecy _all things_ so that there would a challenge meet for Elias. Just as Isaiah 48:5-6 (which speaks of the end-time restoring Elias) said that "it is a light thing" (it is too small a task) for Elias to restore Israel (and thus he also needs to be a light to the Gentiles and be God's "salvation unto the end of the earth"), so it is too easy for Elias to fulfill a small number of end-time prophecies. Therefore the prophecies were multiplied, seemingly _endlessly_ , and the new scriptures will show this, so as to make his mission a real challenge to complete.
Question: Could a “Gentile government” forbidding the proselytizing of the gospel in their country be considered rejecting it under that definition?
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Great question.
President Hinckley said the prophesy of Joel (the pillars of smoke, the sun being darkened, and the moon turned to blood) had been fulfilled, didn't he? Also, didn't President Nelson say the only two things that still need to be fulfilled before Christ comes are the gathering of Israel and Christ returning?
Could you make a video that maps all of this to the events of the Book of Mormon? Something I’ve noticed is that there is a lot that happens in scripture that’s a type of future events and the Savior’s visit to the Americas is one massive type for the last days.
SOOO many times when I watch your videos I think “oh that reminds me of this thing that happened in the Book of Mormon” or I’ll read be reading in it and think “oh that’s just like this prophecy about the last days”
I understand that that might take a while to put together but it would likely add a 3rd/4th witness to what you’ve laid out here
The "Great Scourge" could certainly be the Famine or the " noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image."
I wonder if we’re in the scourge now. A scourge is a whipping or to make suffer..
If Covid was the desolating sickness.. which it did make people desolate. Isolating ourselves in our homes and people dying alone in hospitals… but the scourge comes after that… people are suffering with the economy right now.. high inflation.. can’t make bills.. debt..? I dunno.. just thinking.
Love your work. Just a thought about the earthquake, scourge etc. maybe those things won’t be as enormous as some think? Scriptures say he comes as a thief in the night right? Part of that meaning is that if we aren’t watching we may be taken by surprise and it might serve those not watching as a thief in the night if they were not such unusually enormous events? Pretty sure if there was an apocalyptic event many more people would wake up to that. 🤷♀️
I think the Spanish flu qualifies as the great scourge. A third of the world population died from that. Yes 1918 was a long time ago but not from the Lords point of view.
those who aren't watching will most likely be those who don't believe, therefore nothing will convince them until the actual coming happens. Then they will wish to hide or pull the mountains down upon themselves out of fear.
Joseph Smith says the sign of coming of the Son of Man will be written off as a planet or comet and not seen as a spiritual sign at all.
There’s so much that needs to happen, like it needs to get so much worse, so much. I don’t know why people think it’s in the next 10 years, that might have to do with Ezra Eagle theory. Or it being “200 years” after christs resurrection. I hope for his coming but I doubt I will even be here when it happens, I’m 33.
I do believe our next prophet will be pivotal in helping protect the church then after his Death things will start to get really bad. I think it will get to the point we won’t have a church anymore. That I can see in my lifetime.
Thank you for your videos and being a more sound mind.
No
We will lose the ability to attend?
The rock cut out of the mountain without hands continues to grow. The rock has been interpreted by prophets to be the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. Daniel 2 and OT institute manual.
Regarding the earthquake, we know that can’t have happened yet as Rev 16:18 says it will be greater than any prior and 3 Nephi 10 basically says their earthquake lasted for three days (and there’s greater descriptions in chapter 8). I don’t think we’ve seen one of that magnitude in recent years.
And it’s at the time, or around the time that Christ sets foot on the Mount of Olives.
The 3 Nephi earthquake (and tempests, etc.) lasted 3 hours, the darkness lasted 3 days. See 3 Nephi 8:19
It will probably cause all the land masses to come back together.
All of the things you are looking for could happen within 10 years people are preaching the gospel in the forbidden countries behind closed doors.
True
6:11 Do you have a source for the "missionaries being called home"? I've heard it before but I can't place the source, however there are several sources that say missionary work will continue until the second coming. It may shift from the gentiles to the House of Israel/Jews, but it will not end. And if it does say that somewhere (I know you love these examples) it has already happened during covid ;)
5:47 Do you have a source for that quote about leaving the Church, but not leaving it alone?
It is a statement said to be made by Joseph Smith and can be found in the Juvenile Instructor, Vol. XXVII, 1892, p. 492. The Juvenile Instructor is an old periodical of sorts and can be found in the Church History Catalog.
Here's an excerpt:
When the Prophet had ended telling how he had been treated, Brother Behunnin remarked: 'If I should leave this Church I would not do as those men have done: I would go to some remote place where Mormonism had never been heard of settle down, and no one would ever learn that I knew anything about it.'
The great Seer immediately replied : 'Brother Behunnin, you don't know what you would do. No doubt these men once thought as you do. Before you joined this Church you stood on neutral ground. When the gospel was preached good and evil were set before you. You could choose either or neither. There were two opposite masters inviting you to serve them. When you joined this Church you enlisted to serve God. When you did that you left the neutral ground, and you never can get back on to it. Should you forsake the Master you enlisted to serve it will be by the instigation of the evil one, and you will follow his dictation and be his servant.'
He emphasized the fact that a man or woman who had not taken sides either with Christ or belial could maintain a neutral position, but when they enlisted under either the one or the other they left the neutral ground forever.
I actually think that is a Neal Maxwell quote from 1996 conference talk. I don’t think Joseph Smith ever said it. I could be wrong. I asked him for his source as well.
@@sultryglebe Okay. Well the source I provided is church published and was published 1892 and the article is a personal experience this person had hearing Joseph state those words. So . . .
@@snoweyriver oh, that's great thanks!
The phrase as quoted is actually from Neal A. Maxwell who paraphrased a statement by Brigham Young (ournal of Discourses (Vol. 8, pp. 130-131) who I believe said he heard it from Joseph Smith.
8:16 these look like last days merit badges 🤣
I didn’t know that the Time of the Gentiles needed to happen before the Time of the Jews.
Ngl your in-depth work on this deserves a sub.
Your explanation for “Gospel taught in All the World” is factual. The following countries do not have any members or missionaries: Abkhazia, Akrotiri and Dhekelia, Āland, Anguilla, Artsakh, British Indian Ocean Territory, Christmas Island, Cocos Island, Faroe Islands, Liechtenstein, Maceodonia, Monaco, Montserrat, Norfolk Island, North Macedonia, North Ossetia-Alania, Northern Cyprus, Palestine, Pitcairn Islands, Saba, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Helena Ascension and Tristan da Cunha, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, San Marino, Senegal, Sint Eustatius, Somaliland, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, South Ossetia, Spratly Islands, Tokelau, Transnistria, U.S. Minor Outlying Islands, Vatican City, Wallis and Futuna.
I don’t think “gospel” only refers to the restored Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There are Christians in many of the countries you listed.
@@1004ajI agree, there are scriptures that refer to gospel, and others that refer to fullness of the gospel (restoration).
Country boundaries are in constant flux. Not sure we can be that literal as to call this prophecy unfulfilled unless every man-made boundary has received its own personal message. Fifteen years ago we had members in Sudan, but civil war created South Sudan. So now the prophecy can’t be fulfilled without members in South Sudan? And we can have the message preached to everyone around the tiny 5-mile radius country of Monaco, but unless Monaco specifically hears it, it doesn’t count? What if Spain absorbs Monaco? Then we can say ok, technically now every country has heard the message?
Most of those countries have the internet where the gospel can be found also we must remember John the beloved and the three Nephites can teach anywhere they are called to.
I'm not sure this is accurate. I took stats from the church's website and there were very few that didn't have at least one branch or gathering in the church that meets regularly, it was less than 15.
Could the witnesses in the New Jerusalem be the 3 Nephites?
His other video on the two witnesses does a pretty good job of explaining who he might think they would be. But not the three Nephites.
Pienso que la segunda venida podría ser entre el año 2033 al 2034 , que piensa usted hermano ?
You’re speaking a little fast for most of us and the playback speed is to slow at 0.75 the normal speed is to fast. In case you don’t know it’s adjustable in the gear icon of the upper right hand corner.
Thanks for your work.
Thank you so much for sharing. Do you have any videos on whether the interpretation of the Davidic servant is true and his supposed mission?
Looking at this time line you place Christ's 2nd coming in glory at the end of the millennium. I have always understood that he will be the King during the millennium.
Which of your videos should I rewatch to gain more clarity on this?
The Millennium isn't even on that chart. The Millennium is after his coming in glory.
@@GospelLessons1 oh okay, I feel better. What is the picture with the Lion? It's in the World section just above the 1/2 hour of silence?
Thanks for the reference :)
@GospelLessons1 Excellent video! Although, I was surprised to hear that you hold to a belief in THE (singular) Anti-Christ. As far as I can find (and I've looked), this is not an LDS doctrine. It seems to be one that we've borrowed from our evangelical cousins. None of the prophets or apostles have taught it. They have taught about multiple anti-Christ's rising in the last days, but as far as a singular ONE person Anti-Christ, they're always referring to Lucifer himself. Richard Draper addressed this in his fantastic commentary on the Book of Revelation. He said (and sorry if this is long, but it's an excellent explanation of where this seems to come from and why it is incorrect):
"Many works on Revelation use the term Antichrist as a synonym for the beast. Such a designation really does not work. Admittedly, from the early Christian period on, some Christians felt that an evil individual would arise in the last days who would oppose God. The idea is based on the logical assumption that the antichrist is the exact counterpoint to the Lord himself. The problem is that there is no mention of an antichrist anywhere in Revelation. The term shows up only in 1 John 2:18-22; 4:3; and 2 John 1:7, and in each instance identifies certain heretics living in John's day who taught false doctrines about Jesus, most notably those who ascribed to the docetist position (defined below).
The menacing nature of the term, however, has made it catch on. A number of people, over the ages, have kept the idea of eschatological opponents of Christ alive. On this subject, two LDS scholars have noted that, 'The Greek preposition anti, roughly translated, means instead of. It also carried the meaning of 'face to face' or mirror image. The image in the mirror, looking back at you, is face to face with you. It looks like you. Yet it has no substance. It is a counterfeit of you, in a sense. It only appears to be you. So when John in his epistles spoke of antichrists, he was speaking of the belief of the Gnostics that God is a substanceless spirit rather than a resurrected being...Such a god is like the image in the mirror - really nothing, a counterfeit. Through the centuries thereafter, the term antichrist became Anti-Christ, and by Joseph Smith's day it referred to those who oppose Christ.'
Today many believe in THE Anti-Christ, the definite article being important for it points to a definite person but, as noted, these people have taken the idea out of context and transformed and imposed it on the last days. It is not scriptural.
There is another view that fits better with Revelation and which has been promulgated from the earliest times. This is that antichrist (note the absence of the definite article) is an evil power or spiritual influence that permeates the last days inspiring those who succumb to its spell to preach false doctrines and do the work of devils. Indeed, John warned the Saints that 'every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that of antichrist' (1 Jn 4:3). Thus, the spirit of antichrist is that which teaches false doctrines about Christ. John goes on to warn, 'wherefore ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world' (1 Jn. 4:3). Thus, John reveals that its work had already begun and, in Revelation, he shows it would continue. Still, it never manifests itself as the hypothesized "Anti-Christ," the eschatological figure with near superhuman powers that plays such a big part in evangelical expectations. It is best to understand 'antichrist,' then, as the malevolent evil spirit that permeates the last days and is promulgated by the dragon and his minions."
(The Revelation of John the Apostle BYU New Testament Commentary Series)
I agree with you about the anti-Christ and will be addressing this in a future video.
Richard Draper is excellent. Thank you for sharing. I agree with his interpretation.
Hi Gospel Lessons, would you ever consider doing a video on whether or not LDS believe in an infinite regress of Gods and how God the Father was a man? Many LDS apologists and scholars like Blake Ostler, Jacob Hansen, and Robert Boylan argue strongly against infinite regress and that when God the Father was a man it was much like how Jesus was a man, but from what I've seen it is a common speculative belief among members that there is an infinite regress of Gods and God the Father was just a random man who was exalted by being faithful. From what I've read in the gospel topics essays it seems like the Church doesn't have an official stance but I feel like canonized scripture and teachings from prophets lean more towards the LDS apologists understanding.
"Infinite regress," as some have called it, is the more standard or "orthodox" view of most of the Church, including it's leaders. The view held by those you listed above is the outlier and, frankly, seems to be a combination of old sectarian Christian views of God mixed with LDS theology. As one prophet, Lorenzo Snow said, "As man now is, God once was. As God now is, man may be."
@jaredshipp9207 Yeah, that doesn't necessarily imply infinite regression, though that only says God was once mortal on an earth like we are, and one day, we will be resurrected and perfect and reign with God. However, Jesus was a man like we are once, and when he was a man, he was sinless and divine still before he was resurrected and perfected, and before he was man, he was the God of Israel. Even if there is infinite regress of Gods I think from the King Follet discourse it's heavily implied that when God the Father was a man he was sinless and divine and that's what Jesus based how to live his life. Given the King Follet discourse explains how the plan of salvation was authored by God the Father and that's what enables us to progress like him and the many times Joseph talks about a head God you can build a strong argument against infinite regress. The sermon on the grove is one of the better supports for infinite regression. One of the things written is, "But the holy ghost is yet a spiritual body and waiting to take to himself a body. as the Savior did or as god did or the gods before them took bodies," from that statement and others it looks like members of the Godhead when they descend to mortality are sinless and divine. it is worth it to note that "the gods before them" could be interpreted in a way to make it fit without an infinite regress model. It's just something that needs expanding on by prophets and apostles and needs to be interpreted by them because people can argue back and forth about it, but I don't think we'll get an answer soon because the gathering of israel and raising up a nation of celestial minded people for the millennium are more important. When Gordon B. Hinckley was prophet he was asked in an interview about God being man he said "‘I don’t know that we teach it. I don’t know that we emphasize it ... I understand the philosophical background behind it, but I don’t know a lot about it, and I don’t think others know a lot about it,’" so I don't think it's really a major area of concern from the general authority because there's bigger fish to fry for them. until an apostle or prophet comes forth with a well transcribed revelation or interpretation of the text that supports infinite regress or no infinite regress, people will just argue back and forth.
@@dr.downsyndrome1844 I'd argue "Head God" simply means The Father was preeminent among those of His children who had also attained godhood by that point, i.e. Jehovah and the Holy Spirit. Not that He was the first of all with no Creator of His own. That's just Blake Ostler, Jacob, etc. bringing sectarian theology and ex-nihilo back into it. This life is a microcosm of the eternities with each son having a father before he becomes one himself. I'm not sure how our Father in Heaven would have lived as a mortal on an earth with nobody to resurrect him (or our Heavenly Mother for that matter). Moreover, if that were the case, then we really are different from Him (which again is what the sectarian Christians believe) and it would be highly questionable how much we could ever truly be like Him.
@jaredshipp9207 I mean the King Follet discourse says that God the Father resurrected via his own power or at least that was my interpretation of "as the Father hath power in himself, even so hath the Son power-to do what? Why, what the Father did. The answer is obvious-in a manner to lay down his body and take it up again."
We're the same species as God, just in different states of our development. As Abraham 3:18-19 says when we were intelligences, we differed in greatness and intelligences, but God the Father is the most intelligent which Joseph talks about in the King Follet discourse when he says "The first principles of man are self-existent with God. God himself, finding he was in the midst of spirits and glory, because he was more intelligent, saw proper to institute laws whereby the rest could have a privilege to advance like himself. The relationship we have with God places us in a situation to advance in knowledge. He has power to institute laws to instruct the weaker intelligences, that they may be exalted with Himself. " We're not created and neither was God because Gods can't be created they just exist which is why Isaiah 43:10 doesn't conflict with our theology despite so many protestants using it as a gotcha. The way i see it is the difference between us and our Heavenly Father is that he's vastly more intelligent and can organize matter(which we'll have the ability to do if we inherit celestial glory) which he did to create us spiritual bodies and create a way which we may advance and be like him.
For Heavenly Mother, the most we know is that she exists, she loves us, and she's important, but we haven't had any specifics revealed to us, so anything about her origin or role not spoken by an apostle or prophet is speculation.
It really just boils down to how you interpret what is being said by Joseph and other prophets and so until a modern prophet provides authoritative clarification and more revelation on whether it's infinite regress or that Heavenly Father is the most supreme and started the chain of Gods, people will just argue which way we should interpret texts and what's right. We'll just have to wait and see what's revealed in the future to get a clear answer, which I don't think will happen soon because there's more important things.
A sure sign that someone once had a bright testimony, is the sign of an inverted testimony that comes with persecution.
I know the second coming will happen soon, His return is imminent. The lord shall compress events for the good of the righteous, sad to see so many wondering at noon day about this matter. Today is the day to prepare to meet the Lord at His second coming.
There are fish appearing in the Dead Sea. Quick search will render video proof.
It sounds to me like you're expecting every sign to be obvious and in our faces; visible to all. How do you substantiate that when so much of God's communication is symbolic? How would He "come as a thief in the night" if the moon had literally turned to blood?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you don't seem to be giving any less personal opinion that other people who do videos on this topic. Personally, my family's lives have changed drastically since we started preparing for an imminent day. We aren't holding our breath or setting a date to it, but realizing that the gathering of Israel needs to be our top priority has changed the way we live. I know it's similar for many.
What can you say about Pres Nelson's talk this last conference?
I just want to know when the building of New Jerusalem will begin. Is it true that the City of Zion will come down again and this will be in Adam Ondi Ahman?
Yes, New Jerusalem will be built there.
There are lots of compelling theories.
@@fireslasher23 the City of Zion? If you're referring to the City of Enoch, then that'll be in the Gulf of Mexico
How has the Red Heifer prophecy already been fulfilled?
4:44 Aren't ALL people who are not direct descendent Israelites and not under the covenanant considered 'Gentiles'? Not just Christians that are not under the covenant.
i wonder if youve changed your mind and those in these comments have, due to the prophet telling everyone that "Christ is Coming" and that it is emminant.
These signs can be done in the span of 3 and a half years. It doesnt have to be one by one.
I pray that you truly reconsider Ezra Eagle and the other Prophecies in Esdras. The Esdras books are inspired and it would be foolosh to not heed them.
Where do you get the idea that the dead sea would be healed BEFORE the 2nd coming? That doesn't make sense. The healing of the Dead Sea, as described in Ezekiel and Zechariah, is generally understood to take place after the Second Coming, during the millennial reign of Christ. This healing is part of a broader vision of restoration and renewal that characterizes the period following Christ’s return.
So are we interpreting the leaders of the church incorrectly when those words they speak suggest to so many that the the second coming is imminent? Or are they just using the same type of language given in the modern revelations contained in the D&C - "even at the doors"? Why do you think our leaders, who have authority to interpret scripture, don't speak much of the prophecies and signs, or lay out relative timelines like you have attempted to do? Does this suggest that we shouldn't talk about it or teach of it either? Instead, study it out on our own and keep it to ourselves?
Thanks
I agree that all need to be fulfilled for Jesus to come in Red and usher in the millennium, but I’m looking forward to Adam ondi omen, or his appearance to the Jews first. Might be a lot quicker than we all think
I guess you don’t believe President Holland, he said in his book Jesus could come tomorrow.
It's too bad the comment section is turned off in the Ezra's Eagle video a few weeks ago. lol
Which 2nd coming R U referring to A. Adam ondi omen. B. New Jerusalem Temple. C Mt. of Olives. D. Coming in glory
When I say 2nd coming, I am referring to his coming in glory. There is also the appearance at the temple in Zion which you can add to your list.
In my opinion, there is still a great deal to do before the Second Coming. I think it will not occur for 20 years or more yet.
Question for clarity? JSM. Joseph Smith translation of Matthew?
I’m confused on how the millennium starts before Christs second coming?
Why is blindly following leaders a sign of righteousness?
Does he mean Missouri the state in the USA?
Sooner than later. Listen to the Prophet. It’s quite obvious.
That's what the early saints thought too.
Tribulation is in two parts of seven (14yrs) We are in the last 7 ,this began in march 2024.
I think between 2027-2034
I'm not so generous.
I'm thinking anywhere from
a few to several decades.
I’m a 2034 guy as well
What makes 2034 relevant?
Why 2034?
@@elliotmorrell425What is the importance, relevance and scripture evidence to 2034?
WHERE ARE THE TWO WITNESSES......
Los 7 ángeles son 7 años , desde que empiezan a tocar , creo podrían empezar a tocar después de la re dedicación del templo de salt lake
Why is everyone herein ignoring that all professied events in Revelation, (except for the white throne judgement of the last days) occurred at the end of the first century? Why is everyone herein ignoring that Jesus Christ repeatedly said His second coming was imminent and “coming quickly” and within the lifetime of many of His (their present) disciples?
You have spoken unbiblical ignorance and like the Godless abomination of mormonism, preterism is also a 100% fake manmade CONcept. Repent!
It seems like the world will get much worse before it starts to get better at the second coming.
Dead Sea is alive. Small fish and many other life are living in it. No one knows why because the salinity is still quite high.
Great vid. One huge prophecy that im not seeing is the fall of the wh0re
Her fall is happening all around us. Guess what her name is?
@@flossietube2065Babylon?
@kaylahall1219
Yes, in antiquity, her name was Babylon. However, in modern times, Babylon can refer to "the world." But "the center place" of modern day Babylon has a name. Her name is...
Sorry, disagree. This is still Satans world and call her Baylon will only get stronger not weaker, until She falls. Itll be a catastrophic event
@@flossietube2065D.C and all its politicians?
Wait if the moment that the Jews accept the gospel of JC is when they would see him coming with power, how is it posible that the time of the gentiles has to be over and deliver to the Jews again before the second coming? Well this is my answer, I think is because the scriptures consider Jews also to those who are the descendants of the Lamanites, in the Book of Mormon says that they are also Jews, maybe this prophecy about the end of the times of the gentiles is referring to the Lamanites, who now are in South America in their majority where the church is really strong. And about Missouri, there was a temple who was built there and destroyed or almost built and there is a scripture on DyC that if they have worked so hard to built one and it was not posible because of the opposition then the Lord requires no more, maybe one temple that is already built in Missouri or maybe SLC temple. Well this is only my opinion. Thank you for the video
Great thoughts. And those cornor stones are still there. My ancestor was the Mason.
Have you read “Visions of Glory”? I feel like it follows your timeline well. Maybe you have already done a video of it. I like your videos.
The truth is; any of us could die at any moment. Repent now and don’t procrastinate the day of your salvation, my friends. Be prepared to meet Him at any moment. Be a virgin with a full lamp.
RUN as fast as you can AWAY from VoG. It is bad LDS science fiction that leads one away from the truth.
Well, this is kind of disappointing. If all of what you’ve said is correct and true (and I tend to think it is) than, I’m going to extend my thought of thinking the second coming was within the next 20 years, to the next 200 years. I will die before that and experience my own second coming, but I must admit I really wanted to be here living on the earth when it happened. I’m 45. ☹️
The second coming is very close. Did you listen to president Nelson's talk in Sunday afternoon session of the October 2024 General Conference? President Nelson has been making many comments about the imminence of the second coming. You and I will still be alive when the Christ comes unless we die prematurely.
@@davidroberts2927 yes, but everything that still needs to happen will take many, many years. The prophets have said it’s close for years and in the grand scheme of things, I’m sure it is, but there’s still A LOT that hasn’t happened according to this video. I don’t think everything can happen in just a couple years just using logic alone, but I can hope!
I wanted to say thank you for the content you put on here! I'm currently working on trying to make content like this on my channel and was wondering if you'd like to make a video together:)