I'm more frustrated that after all these years the only decent way to play HERO has been frankenstein'ing the 6 different HERO archetypes. I just want to play a great E-HERO deck with just E-HERO's.
Facts. I thought we were finally going to get that with the neos support but that wave was legit trash. If people think the new evil hero stuff is bad the last neos support was dogshit.
I completely understand how frustrating it is when I read @ignister's boss, Dark Law DPE and Plasma continues to be the Deck's victory condition, when it comes to HERO Konami always creates something with a lot of restrictions unfortunately, I would like it once ONCE she would provide decent HERO support, we have been playing with practically the same deck since 2019 (since Faris was released)
I read @backup and then toxic bubble and almost crashed out. How did we become the pack filler in our own sets? Power of the elements(tear, spright, circular, rikka princess.) We are the filler while being the poster. Now, supreme darkness.
"even the OCG" I dunno, man. That implies the TCG doesn't have a major faction of people absolutely desperate to defend Konami against criticism. Remember how badly those types reacted to when people were clowning on Konami with the barfing horses? They acted like we were setting the offices on fire.
@@HYDEinallcapsI mean with how big the playerbase/general population in the west is, yeah there still gonna be ample amount of defenders. Point is, plenty of em are tired of Konami and had more reason than the OCG.
@@marioreyes6471 true I could just do that, but I seriously doubt the HERO discord server would be willing to help me out, so I would be on my own for that one 🤷
Love these types of videos. I honestly wish konami just gave us legacy support for a lot of other archetypes, like red-eyes, its been too long since they got cards.
Extra hero needs support to be their own archetypes. Remember, heroes are composed of elemental, destiny, masked, vision, and extra. Omni elemental support, do you means
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Man if you think HEROs players have it rough go see the Red-Eyes archetype, they have a Link-4 monster thats not even a Red-Eyes monster and it terrible. KONAMI should give every anime theme deck the same love they give to Blue-Eyes
the problem with red-eyes is it's identity crisis the deck doesn't know what it wants to be yet. so ever new red-eyes card feels like it's trying something new n doesn't fit into the over arching archtype.
Red eyes best build is really it's burn version,on top of lot of red eyes monsters aren't considerd red eyes ..looking at you red eyes alternative dragon...smh
They should make Red-Eyes support that works with dinosaurs as a callback to the anime. Would be good as a way to pander and it would be easier to design since Dinos already have a lot of support and solid end board pieces to work with. There's even a sub archetype within dinos - this sort of "dragon/dinosaur/sea serpent/wyrm" extradeck lock that some dino builds already play under. It could easily fit in with that, they could even design different red-eyes monsters in each of the types "Red-Eyes ultimate conductor tyranno", "Red-Eyes Wyrm", "Red-Eyes Serpent", etc. I don't know why Konami seems dead set on relegating Red-Eyes to a table 9,999 tier deck.
The issue with hero is it has the same issue a lot of anime nostalgia decks have in that it tries to include a lot of way past support like the og vanillas when designing their cards, and those said past cards are freaking awful because it was GX era design. They have to cut them and just make totally new cards that synergize very well if you want them to be good. You can't force include multiple garnets in 2024. Retrain the old materials like Sparkman and such into something playable or make them rely on only new and generic pieces.
It's not dumb of Konami to pre nerf hero support because the fanboys will buy it whether it's good or bad. I've been complaining about this for years. Honest neos/spirit of neos not being treated as Neos. Inferno rage requiring a vanilla, Winged kuriboh lvl 6 not being a hand trap, EN shuffle not being a quick play. Konami is going out of their way to really to keep the power of the HERO deck under control because they know that HERO has some very dedicated players n if they release a card that too strong the players will be break the deck. Back before Stratos was originally banned, the deck was literally unkillable, every format some varient of heroes would somehow top. so I think Konami is trying to make sure that this doesn't happen, while at the same time still getting all the financial benefits from make new hero cards cause if they make the HERO fandom will buy it.
Hero got a top in ycs like last year, bruh HERO players can’t complain compared to other anima decks. They are supported as much as blue eyes. Also, the new support from what I’ve heard is really good, maybe not in ocg because they have to deal with cards like Maxx C, but in TCG it’s good especially since the fiendsmith engine gets you full combo.
Yeah man that “burst return” is really gonna put in that work. “Most supported archetype” is the worst argument because it’s all trash or situational top decky nonsense.
They should be happy that hero is underpowered. I’ll tell you why. They gotta throttle Heroes because they know they’re gonna keep printing more and more support for heroes for years. This might be the last time Ignister EVER gets any real support.
Dark Supremacy and Dark Contact needed a QCR. But I don't know. My testing has shown me that a mostly pure Evil HERO deck works best going 2nd. You might need 3 Dark Ruler No More's and some other staples like Feather Duster. They're honestly really good at climbing past a lot of interruptions. And it's great when Neos Lord can take control of an opponent's omni-negate, Colossus, or your general deck boss monster. And most people aren't impressed with Dark Knight but I love the idea of nerfing ATK to 0 or close to it. But I do agree that Evil HERO's in the current HERO meta falls a bit on the unnecessary side imo. Like, you don't NEED Neos Lord but Doom Prism and Infernal Wing Hellback fire are useful. I like Evil HEROs personally so more waves are always welcome for me
As a HERO player myself, I'm sick of the way HEROs work in modern YGO. We basically have to go second because our first options are basically a glorified Macro Cosmos on a stick, a wipe that every deck can get around and play through, or a once-per-turn pop. And of course, since we HAVE to go second, we are always at the mercy of the opponent's omni-negates and they just aren't giving us any new cards that play around them. I would love to stop focusing on DARK HEROs, but no I literally can't have a turn if I don't main the Vision line. HEROs deserve an option in the extra deck that's at least as powerful as all the generic support. Things that any deck can play should be LESS powerful because they're so splashable. Deck-specifics should be stronger to reward commitment to the archetype.
HERO has ~300 in archetype cards. If you can't build a functional deck with that volume of in theme cards then nothing is ever going to make your deck or players good enough. HERO is done. No new HERO cards for the next decade! And instead of trying to power creep every deck type to compete with the top tier decks that are designed to be banned/mass limited from existence within a year, the game needs an apocalyptic depowering.
I agree. People act like they aren't one of the most represented decks ever lol They have plenty of cards. Just let the deck die. Play other strategies. Konami shouldn't have to cater to anyone because "mY dECk iSNt ThE bEsT deCK". Just move on to other decks and stop living in the past 😂
@@homeboy2258unfortunately for you it’s one of the most popular archetypes in the game and will continue to get support all the way until the game dies
I think if got anti handtrap style hero cards that allows the hero deck to go off an combo through hand traps and/or a new field spell that protects hero’s when summoning would fix the issue.
Konami seems to have a policy of almost never allowing anime decks to be meta. Like, wouldn't that make them sell more?Maybe i'm missing something, but i really don't underatand why we never got tier one support for dark magician, red eyes or cyber dragon....things like yubel and the ishizu cards only get good when combined with other stuff
@@jofx4051 yeah, but only when their anime was airing, also, if Blue eyes, Red eyes and dark magician got tier 1 support, they would be a lot more popular than trickstar and such had been at the time
Besides giving HERO decks a Branded Fusion for every faction what can they realistically do to change the play style? Being an older fusion based archetype limits what they can do since they don't want to make something broken enough that it has to be banned. And since GX turned 20 this past October I expect to see more HERO support next year, but I don't think it'll drastically change anything.
I really wish Shadow Mist and Liquid could use both of their effects in the same turn. A Hero Lives that can special ANY hero monster considering how costly and restrictive it is to activate that card. If not Link 1 card, a contact fusion like Yubel would also be great as well (because polymerization is another brick sometimes).
What I can't stand is the fact that we have good cards but in concert together it's decent compared to other decks. But you take Destroyer Phoenix in another already powerful nonhero deck he's just more effective. Then the hero cards get hit on the banlist like fusion Destiny or Mali and its complete bullshit like my hero deck or someone else's wasn't the reason those cards got hit it was whatever else deck using it as a mini engine. Which screws myself and other hero players who can't reach that power level to start with then you gonna kneecap us more by restricting or banning our shit for something we didn't even do that makes my blood boil with Yugioh
The issue now hero have too many good main deck cards and options when the finally get a good extra deck boss if its too generic for all hero decks its gonna be annoying
Not even just an omni negate access. We are out dated for the way we even fusion summon. We have 1 Way to get access to poly and its a huge choke point in Vyon. A Link 1 that can also get us acess to a fusion/poly card would fo wonders
F spell that on activation adds poly plus u get one extra ns( modern version of sky screper) and link one that place increase from anyware to st zone as trap.
Really HEROES just need some good in archetype negates (we shouldn't have to run 3 Forbidden Droplets just to not immediately lose) and more monsters with built-in protection, preferably from targeting, destruction, and being tributed. Contrast HERO is definitely the odd one out here and this could easily be fixed if Konami would just release main deck Masked Hero monsters, with each one having a different way to either search another Hero monster or a way to search Mask Change. I think we could also use a new Field Spell to support Heroes too (this could perhaps fix the protection issues) and if you REALLY want to throw old school fans a bone.....FIX NEOS SPACIANS!!!!! That whole archetype has been unplayable since it's inception and it's laughable that Jaden included such terrible cards in his deck as is.
I am a pure archetype player so would love some retrain evil hero wildheart, burstrix, Avion, clayman and sparkman who always treated as their original version. More visions hero support for main deck and extra deck. Destiny need more support too
I personally dont understand hero players, they have so many good cards to work with and yet they want more, other decks dont have half of the support they have. Last thing hero needs is a negate, on top of the floodgates it has. No Floodgate deck deserves a negate.
Man if only Konami maid precon products for the TCG side other than structure decks like magic the gathering than it would incentivize people to get into the physical game instead of digital. And those starter decks we got here in the TCG was azz
Any good E hero with text like special summon himself or something like that is instantly 3x e call in the main 🤔 But yeah we need it, we need bubbleman but with text like if you control another hero you can siecial it and draw 2 cards 😎
I dont think HERO is underpowered at all, and the reason its so fun its BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO PLAY. The most satisfying thing about the deck is playing through the opponents board and finding the winning lines. I sort of get the understanding that recently we had to increase the deck count which contributes to awkward hands and not drawing the power cards. But at the same time when every wave since the Vision HEROs has been quality support for a deck that started off with vanillas. I however hate how people complain about having to mix the best hero engines together. Thats what lets the deck be powerful. Pure e heros or pure d heros or pure anything is just a bad roleplay deck, or at least for casual play. Maybe i just have a different approach to the deck idk
@rogue hero, appreciate your commentary and getting back to competitive. Would you suggest to build Rescue Ace or Exodia? Got both packages, lmk. Ima come and whoop dat rogue 😮 we used to play back in da day fam
Every deck is becoming a one card combo. Or can add a one card combo engine to it. But heros are so archetype locked they can't run any other engines and the need 2 or 3 cards to combo off. So they suck in comparison
The new evil hero boss monster is actually bad in my opinion because of its summoning condition. They shouldn't have made it need a monster on the field for its condition that's so trash because you can't bring it out with neos fusion. It would have been so nice to finally have a good neos fusion target for going first not just pure going second like rainbow neos etc.
Why can't Heroes get the same love Yubel got... Aside from Phantom of Yubel the cards are insanely fair and don't do much. Yubel was hard carried by busted generic extra deck cards and the unchaineds. I loved the deck, but let's not pretend they made Yubel as busted as the cyberse crap.
Hero have 6 different dub-archetype. Elemental focus on 2 different Attributes comingtogether. destiny dark hero and time vision turning monsters into traps. Masked Attributes and summoning spells. Evil dark fusion. Extra supporting heroes
Link 1 or a poly for heroes we are the only deck to use the og poly x) . But i think konami are scarred to release a op support because the deck can be really op like tier 0. We have a lot of really good card (plasma, dark law ,dpe etc). Hero deck are just a puzzle really complicated to build and konami add some new pieces but we can still brick :(
To add insult to injury Cyberse is probably the worst slop ever created. Ignisters are blobs, one of the blobs has the broccoli hair cut like come on lmao. Who is this crap even made for?
Maybe because it is evil hero support. not every other hero support. You wr have 6 different hero sub archetype that want to do their own things within their own archetype play style.
@@dajohnniesanders6997 then maybe don’t have a fucking EVIL hero that needs ELEMENTAL HERO NEOS !! Jeez i wonder why people trying to mash all heros together idk why…
Man yall have so many cards and support this is ridiculous! blue eyes has 1 worlds top! Like can yall please be forreal 😂 is it support your mad at or that you haven’t had a tier zero deck? 🤦🏽♂️
But in fairness,weather or not the support is good,but yall got as much support as blue eyes and your the third or fourth most supported archtype in the game ..sit down
hero shouldnt get insane support that puts it at tier 1. it then puts it in banlist territory. it gets support every year to keep it at strong rogue level and i, am happy with that. what do you want, for it to ne tier 1 amd last 6 months before getting nuked?
If the only thing you end on is dark law then your not competitive hero player. Thats not the only thing the deck you would know that if you actually played the deck but like nost yugitubers your just cap
while I am kinda bitter about this, Im still playing post SUDA heroes this saturday on a konami 3v3 event. wish me luck. Deck profile on my channel (shameless plug)
We have a negate in Contrast Hero Chaos but people don't wanna give up their Dark Law for one. Favorite Contact is a step in the right direction for bringing him out but again, People don't wanna give up their "Lord Dark Law" for him. So they rather not play him. People think Dark Law and DPE are the end all be all for Heroes, I do admit they're powerful, but there are ways to get around them.
@JadenOmega Sure, like using Forbidden Droplet, or others that can easily get rid of them. Kaijus, Sphere Mode, Lava Golem can get rid of these HERO monsters, too. Yes, they would end it off with Dark with either Bloo-D or Dark Angel as a combo ender (that's if they don't get interrupted that much).
@@Order-Sol I think they mean within the archetype itself, but yeah that's exactly what I mean. It's basically like once Dark Law and DPE r gone the question is, "Do they have a follow up?" The answer is usually no. Some Hero decks do and can recover despite the set back. But most of them scoop because Dark Law/DPE was countered. Plasma is a good option for a boss but kinda suffers the same problem as the two, but to give Plasma a little more credit, he's a walking skill drain. But Dark Angel....? Some Hero players play him to lock down spells. But what if the deck isn't that reliant on spells? What if they have a link 1 monster to link him off with? Or worse case scenario, what if your dueling a mirror match?
@JadenOmega hero already have 5 different sub-dub-archetype that are doing their own thing, play style, and support. Elemental is focused on combining 2 different attributes together. Destiny is all about dark and time. Vision is about wanting to be traps and engines. Masked is about attribute tributing with spells. Evil is about evil fusioning, discarding and graveyard. They are asking for to create an omni hero archetype or omni hero spells/traps that would support all the hero at once in a single Chimera deck.
Hero players are so spoiled man. You already get support every 5 minutes, there's nothing wrong with @ignister getting strong support after multiple years of no support. Even other protagonist decks don't get as much cards as HEROs.
Hero have 6 different Archetype with their own Play Style and support. They complaining about not having the ability to make their favorite omni hero deck and how they not playing with together
You can say this about almost all anime archetype. I still believe anime brings people to the game then anime Deck should always be top tier. It's your attraction 🧲
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I'm more frustrated that after all these years the only decent way to play HERO has been frankenstein'ing the 6 different HERO archetypes. I just want to play a great E-HERO deck with just E-HERO's.
Facts. I thought we were finally going to get that with the neos support but that wave was legit trash. If people think the new evil hero stuff is bad the last neos support was dogshit.
I'm a big fan of destiny HEROs I've tried to make a pure D hero deck but it's too slow, so Konami make re makes of D heros playable
Big facts. Screw the pink cyclops.
Same here i just want pure evil hero
The 10 min combo playstyle is lame af
red eyes is more shafted then heroes save our boy atticus save our boy joey
Big facts...
I agree . Red-eyes stay getting the short end of the stick
Yes that sad
😂😂😂
With blue eyes recently get support red-eyes deserves support to fight the rival dragon
(Red-eyes ultimate...just a thought)
I completely understand how frustrating it is when I read @ignister's boss, Dark Law DPE and Plasma continues to be the Deck's victory condition, when it comes to HERO Konami always creates something with a lot of restrictions unfortunately, I would like it once ONCE she would provide decent HERO support, we have been playing with practically the same deck since 2019 (since Faris was released)
I read @backup and then toxic bubble and almost crashed out. How did we become the pack filler in our own sets? Power of the elements(tear, spright, circular, rikka princess.) We are the filler while being the poster. Now, supreme darkness.
As a Gladiator Beast player… Heroes can wait! The Colosseum Cage has finally opened! Here is a ticket so the heroes can watch the games 😈🎟️
Damn, even the OCG is tired of Konami’s BS.
"even the OCG"
I dunno, man. That implies the TCG doesn't have a major faction of people absolutely desperate to defend Konami against criticism. Remember how badly those types reacted to when people were clowning on Konami with the barfing horses? They acted like we were setting the offices on fire.
@@HYDEinallcaps You’re one of those types that get so triggered when people disagree with your views on the evil big bad Konami company.
@@Gokuvsnaruto22 Oh look, one such example of people who are traumatized by the barfing horse of no banlist. 🤭
@@HYDEinallcapsI mean with how big the playerbase/general population in the west is, yeah there still gonna be ample amount of defenders. Point is, plenty of em are tired of Konami and had more reason than the OCG.
@@MH_Zard Fair enough. Still, in regards to the former, that just means there's more people that should be shaming defenders into silent submission.
They should have never mixed heroes all together should have made they work on there own
80+ extra deck monsters only only s dozen are good
Exactly! It's frustrating that I can't play Elemental HERO at all in any capacity
@DarkSorcerer94 I mean you can if you just want to have fun . I find non competitive yugioh is a much better game
@@marioreyes6471 true I could just do that, but I seriously doubt the HERO discord server would be willing to help me out, so I would be on my own for that one 🤷
@@DarkSorcerer94 I play with my cousin. I also have a hero edison deck
Love these types of videos.
I honestly wish konami just gave us legacy support for a lot of other archetypes, like red-eyes, its been too long since they got cards.
Extra hero needs support to be their own archetypes.
Remember, heroes are composed of elemental, destiny, masked, vision, and extra.
Omni elemental support, do you means
Just make main deck Masked Heroes with good effects. Plain and simple.
A Link 1 Masked Hero sounds really good.
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Man if you think HEROs players have it rough go see the Red-Eyes archetype, they have a Link-4 monster thats not even a Red-Eyes monster and it terrible.
KONAMI should give every anime theme deck the same love they give to Blue-Eyes
the problem with red-eyes is it's identity crisis the deck doesn't know what it wants to be yet. so ever new red-eyes card feels like it's trying something new n doesn't fit into the over arching archtype.
Technically they need _more_ love than Blue-Eyes since BEWD has the beeg base stats.
Red eyes best build is really it's burn version,on top of lot of red eyes monsters aren't considerd
red eyes ..looking at you red eyes alternative dragon...smh
They should make Red-Eyes support that works with dinosaurs as a callback to the anime. Would be good as a way to pander and it would be easier to design since Dinos already have a lot of support and solid end board pieces to work with. There's even a sub archetype within dinos - this sort of "dragon/dinosaur/sea serpent/wyrm" extradeck lock that some dino builds already play under. It could easily fit in with that, they could even design different red-eyes monsters in each of the types "Red-Eyes ultimate conductor tyranno", "Red-Eyes Wyrm", "Red-Eyes Serpent", etc.
I don't know why Konami seems dead set on relegating Red-Eyes to a table 9,999 tier deck.
@DarkAuraLord but on the other hand,why give dinos more fuel when they already have to much,just keep red eyes as a burn.
They should slow down making new archetypes and focus on supporting legacy archetypes.
The issue with hero is it has the same issue a lot of anime nostalgia decks have in that it tries to include a lot of way past support like the og vanillas when designing their cards, and those said past cards are freaking awful because it was GX era design. They have to cut them and just make totally new cards that synergize very well if you want them to be good. You can't force include multiple garnets in 2024. Retrain the old materials like Sparkman and such into something playable or make them rely on only new and generic pieces.
Meanwhile Cyber Dragon support:
DON'T FUCK WITH US CYDRA PLAYERS
WE CRUMBLE AFTER ONE NEGATE
@@neonthunder3261 Infinite Impermanence is canon and frankly that's just good game design 🫡
I can understand and agree with your point! Even though I love splashing the archetypes together with Yubel, I can always use more hero cards!
It's not dumb of Konami to pre nerf hero support because the fanboys will buy it whether it's good or bad. I've been complaining about this for years. Honest neos/spirit of neos not being treated as Neos. Inferno rage requiring a vanilla, Winged kuriboh lvl 6 not being a hand trap, EN shuffle not being a quick play. Konami is going out of their way to really to keep the power of the HERO deck under control because they know that HERO has some very dedicated players n if they release a card that too strong the players will be break the deck. Back before Stratos was originally banned, the deck was literally unkillable, every format some varient of heroes would somehow top. so I think Konami is trying to make sure that this doesn't happen, while at the same time still getting all the financial benefits from make new hero cards cause if they make the HERO fandom will buy it.
Hero got a top in ycs like last year, bruh HERO players can’t complain compared to other anima decks. They are supported as much as blue eyes. Also, the new support from what I’ve heard is really good, maybe not in ocg because they have to deal with cards like Maxx C, but in TCG it’s good especially since the fiendsmith engine gets you full combo.
What are you talking about? Heros can't play fiendsmith...
Evil heroes are fiends I believe@@xlegacyzero8878
Yeah man that “burst return” is really gonna put in that work. “Most supported archetype” is the worst argument because it’s all trash or situational top decky nonsense.
@@xlegacyzero8878 they can in the next set cause adusted gold is a light fiend that searches the new evil hero that is a 1 card combo.
If the support is unplayable, it barely counts. 90% of Hero cards are straight up unusable.
They should be happy that hero is underpowered. I’ll tell you why. They gotta throttle Heroes because they know they’re gonna keep printing more and more support for heroes for years. This might be the last time Ignister EVER gets any real support.
7:44 Ehhhh sorta... .she's in a main protagonist deck. But her deck itself is a villain deck.
Dark Supremacy and Dark Contact needed a QCR. But I don't know. My testing has shown me that a mostly pure Evil HERO deck works best going 2nd. You might need 3 Dark Ruler No More's and some other staples like Feather Duster. They're honestly really good at climbing past a lot of interruptions. And it's great when Neos Lord can take control of an opponent's omni-negate, Colossus, or your general deck boss monster. And most people aren't impressed with Dark Knight but I love the idea of nerfing ATK to 0 or close to it. But I do agree that Evil HERO's in the current HERO meta falls a bit on the unnecessary side imo. Like, you don't NEED Neos Lord but Doom Prism and Infernal Wing Hellback fire are useful. I like Evil HEROs personally so more waves are always welcome for me
As a HERO player myself, I'm sick of the way HEROs work in modern YGO. We basically have to go second because our first options are basically a glorified Macro Cosmos on a stick, a wipe that every deck can get around and play through, or a once-per-turn pop.
And of course, since we HAVE to go second, we are always at the mercy of the opponent's omni-negates and they just aren't giving us any new cards that play around them. I would love to stop focusing on DARK HEROs, but no I literally can't have a turn if I don't main the Vision line.
HEROs deserve an option in the extra deck that's at least as powerful as all the generic support. Things that any deck can play should be LESS powerful because they're so splashable. Deck-specifics should be stronger to reward commitment to the archetype.
HERO has ~300 in archetype cards. If you can't build a functional deck with that volume of in theme cards then nothing is ever going to make your deck or players good enough. HERO is done. No new HERO cards for the next decade! And instead of trying to power creep every deck type to compete with the top tier decks that are designed to be banned/mass limited from existence within a year, the game needs an apocalyptic depowering.
I agree. People act like they aren't one of the most represented decks ever lol They have plenty of cards. Just let the deck die. Play other strategies. Konami shouldn't have to cater to anyone because "mY dECk iSNt ThE bEsT deCK". Just move on to other decks and stop living in the past 😂
How did you watch this video and your conclusion be that he thinks you can’t build a functional hero deck with the current options?
@@homeboy2258unfortunately for you it’s one of the most popular archetypes in the game and will continue to get support all the way until the game dies
And how many cards are unplayable in the 300? There are cards that were created not to be played.
what a bunch of reddit nonsense is this comment LMFAO
Same for black wings we haven’t gotten any good support since I started.
I think if got anti handtrap style hero cards that allows the hero deck to go off an combo through hand traps and/or a new field spell that protects hero’s when summoning would fix the issue.
Heraldic Beast players is in oblivion.
Konami seems to have a policy of almost never allowing anime decks to be meta. Like, wouldn't that make them sell more?Maybe i'm missing something, but i really don't underatand why we never got tier one support for dark magician, red eyes or cyber dragon....things like yubel and the ishizu cards only get good when combined with other stuff
Konami marketing is incompetent!
Nah Salad, Altergeist, Trickstar even being winner though
@@jofx4051 yeah, but only when their anime was airing, also, if Blue eyes, Red eyes and dark magician got tier 1 support, they would be a lot more popular than trickstar and such had been at the time
Besides giving HERO decks a Branded Fusion for every faction what can they realistically do to change the play style? Being an older fusion based archetype limits what they can do since they don't want to make something broken enough that it has to be banned.
And since GX turned 20 this past October I expect to see more HERO support next year, but I don't think it'll drastically change anything.
Surely you will just them new cards just like what happens to Ice Barrier
Extra hero was supposed to be the supporting all the different hero archetype
Maybe print new fusion monsters that don’t go - 2 in card advantage just to have their effect being battle/ destroy a monster in battle based effects.
I really wish Shadow Mist and Liquid could use both of their effects in the same turn.
A Hero Lives that can special ANY hero monster considering how costly and restrictive it is to activate that card.
If not Link 1 card, a contact fusion like Yubel would also be great as well (because polymerization is another brick sometimes).
Tbh the evil support is good but it feels like I’m just adding a whole lot of extra bricks for not an equal payoff.
5 different sub hero archetype with their own Play Style and theirowngroupoffriends. What do you expect.
Evil, masked and vision all lacking support
What I can't stand is the fact that we have good cards but in concert together it's decent compared to other decks. But you take Destroyer Phoenix in another already powerful nonhero deck he's just more effective. Then the hero cards get hit on the banlist like fusion Destiny or Mali and its complete bullshit like my hero deck or someone else's wasn't the reason those cards got hit it was whatever else deck using it as a mini engine. Which screws myself and other hero players who can't reach that power level to start with then you gonna kneecap us more by restricting or banning our shit for something we didn't even do that makes my blood boil with Yugioh
The issue now hero have too many good main deck cards and options when the finally get a good extra deck boss if its too generic for all hero decks its gonna be annoying
Elemental Absorber retrain needed lol
Not even just an omni negate access. We are out dated for the way we even fusion summon. We have 1 Way to get access to poly and its a huge choke point in Vyon. A Link 1 that can also get us acess to a fusion/poly card would fo wonders
F spell that on activation adds poly plus u get one extra ns( modern version of sky screper) and link one that place increase from anyware to st zone as trap.
that ignister bm should have been a hero bm.that negate effect is needed
Heroes has never been a bad deck (thankfully) but you have to legit be a good pilot for it to work
Really HEROES just need some good in archetype negates (we shouldn't have to run 3 Forbidden Droplets just to not immediately lose) and more monsters with built-in protection, preferably from targeting, destruction, and being tributed.
Contrast HERO is definitely the odd one out here and this could easily be fixed if Konami would just release main deck Masked Hero monsters, with each one having a different way to either search another Hero monster or a way to search Mask Change.
I think we could also use a new Field Spell to support Heroes too (this could perhaps fix the protection issues) and if you REALLY want to throw old school fans a bone.....FIX NEOS SPACIANS!!!!! That whole archetype has been unplayable since it's inception and it's laughable that Jaden included such terrible cards in his deck as is.
Yes main deck masked hero would be a great help for the masked hero archetype
I am a pure archetype player so would love some retrain evil hero wildheart, burstrix, Avion, clayman and sparkman who always treated as their original version.
More visions hero support for main deck and extra deck.
Destiny need more support too
I personally dont understand hero players, they have so many good cards to work with and yet they want more, other decks dont have half of the support they have. Last thing hero needs is a negate, on top of the floodgates it has. No Floodgate deck deserves a negate.
Man if only Konami maid precon products for the TCG side other than structure decks like magic the gathering than it would incentivize people to get into the physical game instead of digital. And those starter decks we got here in the TCG was azz
OCG players complaining how the deck is boring with the same end boards?
Ok, let's start by banning Dark Law, Dark Angel, Plasma and DPE then talk
I would like them to revamp heros and make versions of the vanilla heros as effect monsters
Any good E hero with text like special summon himself or something like that is instantly 3x e call in the main 🤔
But yeah we need it, we need bubbleman but with text like if you control another hero you can siecial it and draw 2 cards 😎
I dont think HERO is underpowered at all, and the reason its so fun its BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO PLAY.
The most satisfying thing about the deck is playing through the opponents board and finding the winning lines.
I sort of get the understanding that recently we had to increase the deck count which contributes to awkward hands and not drawing the power cards. But at the same time when every wave since the Vision HEROs has been quality support for a deck that started off with vanillas.
I however hate how people complain about having to mix the best hero engines together. Thats what lets the deck be powerful. Pure e heros or pure d heros or pure anything is just a bad roleplay deck, or at least for casual play.
Maybe i just have a different approach to the deck idk
Need some retrain of the OG heroes
@rogue hero, appreciate your commentary and getting back to competitive. Would you suggest to build Rescue Ace or Exodia? Got both packages, lmk. Ima come and whoop dat rogue 😮 we used to play back in da day fam
Exodia for sure
Every deck is becoming a one card combo. Or can add a one card combo engine to it. But heros are so archetype locked they can't run any other engines and the need 2 or 3 cards to combo off. So they suck in comparison
The new evil hero boss monster is actually bad in my opinion because of its summoning condition. They shouldn't have made it need a monster on the field for its condition that's so trash because you can't bring it out with neos fusion. It would have been so nice to finally have a good neos fusion target for going first not just pure going second like rainbow neos etc.
Heros have it bad? Try playing Egyptian gods 🙄
Why can't Heroes get the same love Yubel got... Aside from Phantom of Yubel the cards are insanely fair and don't do much. Yubel was hard carried by busted generic extra deck cards and the unchaineds.
I loved the deck, but let's not pretend they made Yubel as busted as the cyberse crap.
Hero have 6 different dub-archetype. Elemental focus on 2 different Attributes comingtogether.
destiny dark hero and time
vision turning monsters into traps.
Masked Attributes and summoning spells.
Evil dark fusion.
Extra supporting heroes
Damn lowkie i thought the hero support was sick.
Link 1 or a poly for heroes we are the only deck to use the og poly x) . But i think konami are scarred to release a op support because the deck can be really op like tier 0. We have a lot of really good card (plasma, dark law ,dpe etc). Hero deck are just a puzzle really complicated to build and konami add some new pieces but we can still brick :(
miracle fusion, whole lot of other en card fusion, neos fusion spells
The HEROs suck in comparison… like they’re really bad compared to what other decks got recently…
Normal Summon Empen....
To add insult to injury Cyberse is probably the worst slop ever created. Ignisters are blobs, one of the blobs has the broccoli hair cut like come on lmao. Who is this crap even made for?
They are not wrong. The new evil hero cards aren't bad but they don't make the current hero deck any better. They just make pure evil hero playable.
Maybe because it is evil hero support. not every other hero support.
You wr have 6 different hero sub archetype that want to do their own things within their own archetype play style.
@@dajohnniesanders6997 then maybe don’t have a fucking EVIL hero that needs ELEMENTAL HERO NEOS !! Jeez i wonder why people trying to mash all heros together idk why…
Where's the OP Synchron deck at too? They gotta do better.
Man yall have so many cards and support this is ridiculous! blue eyes has 1 worlds top! Like can yall please be forreal 😂 is it support your mad at or that you haven’t had a tier zero deck? 🤦🏽♂️
Odd eyes deck supp….
Cyber dragon players, first time huh?
Blue eyes won world's in 2016
But in fairness,weather or not the support is good,but yall got as much support as blue eyes and your the third or fourth most supported archtype in the game ..sit down
Blue eyes won 2016 world our deck might have a lot more support, but all we get is a card that stops you from playing yugioh all you play is heroes
@xalhat6584 don't matter,hero's in reality don't need anymore support.
@@xalhat6584 I'm not a hero fan nor blue eyes,y'all both got enough now make it work or don't,in reality you don't even need the new structure decks.
hero shouldnt get insane support that puts it at tier 1. it then puts it in banlist territory. it gets support every year to keep it at strong rogue level and i, am happy with that. what do you want, for it to ne tier 1 amd last 6 months before getting nuked?
That would open the doors to printing more HEROes, so...
Tier 1 then nuked to a rouge level where we are now my answer is yes
If the only thing you end on is dark law then your not competitive hero player. Thats not the only thing the deck you would know that if you actually played the deck but like nost yugitubers your just cap
He said 2015
while I am kinda bitter about this, Im still playing post SUDA heroes this saturday on a konami 3v3 event. wish me luck.
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Skeeter Jean?
I mean
Blackwings could use a bit of new support
But mostly red eyes as an archetype doesn’t get any love
Hero need negates
Negate and bounce preferably a either feild non target so you can bounce one of your own to beat nibiru or their field to interrupt
We have a negate in Contrast Hero Chaos but people don't wanna give up their Dark Law for one. Favorite Contact is a step in the right direction for bringing him out but again, People don't wanna give up their "Lord Dark Law" for him. So they rather not play him. People think Dark Law and DPE are the end all be all for Heroes, I do admit they're powerful, but there are ways to get around them.
@JadenOmega Sure, like using Forbidden Droplet, or others that can easily get rid of them.
Kaijus, Sphere Mode, Lava Golem can get rid of these HERO monsters, too.
Yes, they would end it off with Dark with either Bloo-D or Dark Angel as a combo ender (that's if they don't get interrupted that much).
@@Order-Sol I think they mean within the archetype itself, but yeah that's exactly what I mean. It's basically like once Dark Law and DPE r gone the question is, "Do they have a follow up?" The answer is usually no. Some Hero decks do and can recover despite the set back. But most of them scoop because Dark Law/DPE was countered. Plasma is a good option for a boss but kinda suffers the same problem as the two, but to give Plasma a little more credit, he's a walking skill drain. But Dark Angel....? Some Hero players play him to lock down spells. But what if the deck isn't that reliant on spells? What if they have a link 1 monster to link him off with? Or worse case scenario, what if your dueling a mirror match?
@JadenOmega hero already have 5 different sub-dub-archetype that are doing their own thing, play style, and support. Elemental is focused on combining 2 different attributes together. Destiny is all about dark and time. Vision is about wanting to be traps and engines. Masked is about attribute tributing with spells. Evil is about evil fusioning, discarding and graveyard.
They are asking for to create an omni hero archetype or omni hero spells/traps that would support all the hero at once in a single Chimera deck.
Hero players are so spoiled man. You already get support every 5 minutes, there's nothing wrong with @ignister getting strong support after multiple years of no support. Even other protagonist decks don't get as much cards as HEROs.
Hero have 6 different Archetype with their own Play Style and support. They complaining about not having the ability to make their favorite omni hero deck and how they not playing with together
That like 90 % of archetypes , all balance but the other 10 % , is Tear, SE Yubel , Tenpai 😂😂😂 etc
You can say this about almost all anime archetype. I still believe anime brings people to the game then anime Deck should always be top tier. It's your attraction 🧲