The Violent Meaning of You Were Never Really Here
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Lynne Ramsay's You Were Never Really Here isn't just a violent movie - it's a powerful piece on the struggle between blinding internal pain and it's violent externalizations, and the importance of purpose in dealing with trauma.
Not only that, but it's also Joaquin Phoenix at his best - dive into the violence and uncover its depths.
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00:00 Intro
00:44 Narrative
01:48 Typical movie violence
02:35 YWNRH's violence
03:11 Example: Nina's first rescue
05:21 Purpose and violence
07:48 Meaning
08:49 Thank you and suggest a movie!
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Music:
Scott Buckley - Intervention // Computations in a Snowstorm // Hiraeth
Lukrembo - Travel
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I felt like the reason joe collapsed after discovering the body of the governor wasnt because he didnt have the chance to kill him, but because nina had to kill him which he saw as his own burden and not hers, as killing someone espacially at that young age is traumatizing
That was my take too. That perspective made his physical collapse truly palpable.
it is also a better take on a more realistic way of looking at it from a psychological standpoint
@@stokkejanraggio9091”psychological standpoint” made up jobs viewpoint you mean
@@Man_fay_the_Bru You don't think psychology is real?
@@Man_fay_the_Bru do you legit think a "psychologist" and a "therapist" is the same???
Joe isn't upset that Nina stole his violence,
He's upset that he failed to keep Nina from becoming him.
I agree. I relate deeply to this. My grandfather, WWII. Royal Marines, decorated. My father Vietnam and Falklands. Myself, 4 tours on the line and two Purple Hearts. It took something from all of us. I tried so hard to keep my boys from following our footsteps. My oldest has now taken lives and lost mates. He's become what I feared most. US. The emotional baggage. The Xanax. The nightmares. I warned him to stay away from the Airborne. I failed him because I failed to listen as well. The anonymity helps here apparently because I have no idea why I shared this with you mate.
@@PaleoVirus im so sorry to hear that
@@nazario694 Thank you Naza
@@PaleoVirus❤️🩹
@@nathanj109 Thanks mate
Love how Joe reaches out to touch Nina near the end with such tentative doubt; as if he's not sure if she's actually there or just a figment of his fragmented mind. Joe is a protagonist used to dealing with severe mental illness, and as you brilliantly point out, violence is his coping mechanism.
I personally thought the CCTV Hammer scene was pretty chilling. Its the same element you get from seeing spooky dashcam, doorbell cam, CCTV, cell phone videos, online. Everyone has seen those, it added this element of realism that made it hard to look away, the same feelings you get from the aforementioned style of spooky vids from the internet.
I don’t want to ruin this video but this is how I’ve wanted to make a Batman film for so long. A Batman that’s more a broken hitman than a straight crime fighter. A hitman that has good in him but the rage and the sadness overtake him and he beats his victims with the same brutality they showed him. He doesn’t show mercy, he likes the pain. That’s how I want to do Batman, I’ve always liked ultra violent movies but I like them more when the violence is purposeful, focused, real.
Ahh that sounds sick, would love to see it
Sounds more like the punisher
@@aliuniversal4100 Yeah, except Batman isn't trained like Frank.
@@the.sketch.projekt8851Batman is much more trained than the punisher.
@@aliuniversal4100 The Netflix series of The Punisher. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Every time I watch a film analysis that's well crafted like this, i feel dumb that I can't pull off something like this on my own. But fortunately we have people like you who take their time and make these gems for us the commons. Thanks
Most of the films are not done solely by the one person so you’ll never have to necessarily do it on your own. I know you probably know this, but it’s a collaboration process. As long as you have a great team, and great mind, you’ll be good g
This video is one of the best video essays I've seen on RUclips. Everything was perfect from the editing to the insight itself so sincerely well done! I'd love to see your take on Titane, After Hours or Paris, Texas if you get the chance.
Thank you Adam! Glad you liked it :)
right on dude. was thinking the same thing.
any film recommendations for me?
As someone who has experienced a lot of trauma, i really appreciated this video, it framed my connection to the film i couldnt
Wish I found this channel earlier. I love breakdowns like this. This movie gave me chills the entire watch and encompasses PTSD beautifully. Coming from someone diagnosed with it. I give phoenix his roses here. He is so incredibly committed to his craft. The cinematography alone is absolutely astounding.
Thank you very much! Totally agree, phoenix absolutely killed it here
This was such an amazing analysis of the film. Your takes on trauma and its outlets were fit perfectly into the film's scope. I'm excited to watch more of your stuff, this was an excellent video.
Thank you!!
I kind of feel like I've just joined a film club on this page. It would be a great group to gather in-person. Watching and, possibly introducing others, our favoured films and then discussing them into the wee hours of the morning.
It took me 3 tries to finish this movie. As an ex-EMT that has experienced violence and the toll it can cause, my adrenaline kept spiking and crashing, anger to stoic purpose of justice. I felt empty after, sad that my rage seemed meaningless. I hope anyone that can identify with this knows that there is more. There is so much more. Life doesn't have to be all about pain, and I wish you a journey of finding a place you feel whole.
Thanks, doc
Great analysis. Genuinely top-tier in both the actual analysis and the presentation. Very adept.
Thank you!!
Your essays always help me appreciate the film on a deeper level. Thank you!
Your video essays are perfection!!! You deserve at least 1 million subscribers, please keep up with the great work 😊
please don't stop. Your videos are such high quality and augur a promising future !!!!!
This is not a video this is an essay, an excellent one. You've got a new subscriber pal.
Brilliant! Simply brilliant. Thank you, good sir!
This is a beautiful video. Thank you.
Love these video essays bro it keeps me inspired when writing my projects
Do a double feature on "Driver" and "Valhalla"...theyre by the same director, both involve stoic protaganists with little dialog, and I think the exploration of these two seemingly opposite films will yield dividends
Because without purpose, it's as if we were never really here.
Dude. You are hitting the mark!!
The Green Knight next! Keep up the good work.
Hahahah ayyyeeee!!!! Glad you liked that man! I honestly CANNOT wait to see The Green Knight, looks amazing and the reviews are overwhelmingly positive - very hype!
@@TakeTwoReviews Sure. Been waiting for almost a year for that film. Also, bro I will be the first one to take membership of your channel when it explodes and it will considering Spikima recommended you.
Much love bro.
@@aryanswaroop4177 Ahhh you're the best man, seriously, it's the support and the energy that really makes doing these videos worth it.
If I make it big I'll make sure to shout you out!
Cheers man
just seen the movie and felt like a bit lost. fantastic explanation and editing. thank you very much. Now i wanna watch more of Lynne Ramsay's works.
You should! We Need to Talk About Kevin is another fantastic watch - thanks for the comment ☺️
As a person that lives most of my life surrounded by violence this is a very thoughtful portrayed of the "primordial chaos" that is often not portrayed as. Life isn't always an open path or a set direction, and violence is the essence of that notion. To me at least
...wow, this expose' is great... places Leon into true context, an effortless and seamless transition of a memory. Thank you for sharing.
I'm new to this channel but I've already decided to watch every movie you make an essay about!
Thank you Marcos! Much appreciated :)
Excellent video essay! Loved this movie. Like almost all great movies it's about the human condition. There is a bit of Joe in all of us. Few are that broken of course. Loved how the movie makes it clear that Joe has his moral foundation still intact. He loves his mother dearly and he will never harm or use the girl. Many beautifully crafted shots in this movie. Not easy to watch, but I think it's great.
Great video! I hope you keep creating brilliant content like this.
Thanks George - that's the plan!
That was enlightening, thank you. I watched the movie for the first time last night. Very different approach which I wasn’t expecting. There’s a lot going on that you’re left to work out. I really enjoyed it and will be watching it again soon.
I find you analysis amazing to listen to and watch, i hope you upload soon.
I’m on it!!
Wow man, great job. Nice review!!
Such an amazing and underrated/unheard of film. What cinema is all about. Great vid as well.
I just realized that your channel was small, you deserve more subs with your editing skills
This is an outstanding dissection of this film!!!!
Amazing video!
What a brilliant summary and explanation of this movie.
I came here after watching this movie on television tonight (which meant I couldn't rewind to clarify or discover something). Unfortunately, subtitles were not available. I barely understood more than four words the entire time. And, yet, I still could not turn away from it.
I understood most of WHAT was happening in the plot but not WHY it was happening. (I understood Joe and his mother's characters but was confused by the rest.)
Apart from being partially deaf, I have prosopagnosia, so I couldn't tell the difference between some of the characters. For instance, who was the man who contracted Joe to find his daughter? Was he the same man as the senator? Who were these two men and what did they have to gain from this bloodshed? Was the father abusing or trafficking Nina? Who were all these other characters- police? Traffickers? Other than to draw Joe out or exact revenge, why was Joe's mother killed?
Why was Nina so trusting of Joe? Why did she so easily put her arms around one of her captors? Why was she not a total screw-ball basket case?
Ohhh... I need a chart or a graph to understand all this. I'd love to re-watch it WITH subtitles and that thing that Amazon PRIME does where I can stop and see who the characters are in a particular scene.
To the YTuber who posted this: thank you for an awesome vid. I've subscribed and will be sure to check out more of your work.
Great video! You were never really here is just crazy. So mesmerizing. Put Joaquin Phoenix's performance and Lynne Ramsay's directing together and you get a damn great movie.
It would be cool to see you talk about Ari Aster's movies or Drive. Anyway, keep up the good work!
Yup - pretty much anything with Joaquin Phoenix is instantly a must-watch for me.
I'm considering doing something from Ari Aster, but there's so many video essays about his movies out there already - would need to figure out something about them that's unique and hasn't been discussed to deeply yet hahah.
Love the Drive suggestion, probably my favorite from Refn - definitely possible for the future!
Oh you gotta do drive, dude.
Hey, great video! I didn't know Lynne Ramsay's work at all but I'll watch the rest of her filmography asap. Regarding the next one, I personally loved Under the Silver Lake and I'd like your take on it. Anyway, continue on this path!
Thanks for the praise and the suggestion Cassandre!
Amazing stuff. Well done.
Thank you! Cheers!
This is one of my favorite movies. I am a veteran. I'm the son of an abusive PTSD-effected veteran.
...this is one of my favorite movies, although I can only watch it so often.
The ending gave me goosebumps! Keep it up man
Thanks! I won't lie, was pretty proud with that closing line 😂
The ending speaks volumes.
He wanted to save her and NEEDED to save her to "make up for" his past, both as a child who couldn't fight back and as a soldier with ptsd for things that he has done.
As the director intended, and this video points out, his story is strictly one of "violence for the greater good" ...at a cost to oneself.
He breaks down at the end, because he failed the mission. In his mind he failed to do his job to protect her, perpetuating the cycle of what made him, well... him.
So he takes it out on himself through self destruction (depicted many times throughout the film, and alluded to constantly as a lifelong vice)
He ONLY had her to care about after his mother was gone... and he failed the mission.
When he found the body he didn't know where she was or what condition she was in, most likely fearing the worst of the worst. That's a truly reasonable outcome given the events.
His raison d'etre was gone.
Lose that and any person fully breaks
For me this video is old, but your commentary will hold up for years to come. Have never even seen this movie, but I can tell you really focused to get things right.
Thank you so much! Yeah, these take me wayyyy too long to produce, appreciate the kind words ❤️
Great analysis!
Thank you Spooky!
I'm in love with this channel.
Thank you! Currently working on getting back into it, going to revisit Swallow before hitting some new releases ☺️
@@TakeTwoReviews was not expecting to get a reply. Looking forward to anything you put out man. Cheers!
"Nobody watched it" - Joaquin Phoenix
Ramsay has one of the more unique visions of film in our lifetimes. Really special.
I'm equally hyped by you analysing either The Green Knight or Under the silver lake. Really liked both. Maybe do TGK first ahahah. I'm loving your videos by the way!
Gah I cant wait to do both of those. I've mentioned doing UTSL first but I really might just say fuck it and do the green knight, movie is to good to skip
@@TakeTwoReviews Looking forward to whatever you make muahahaha. Keep it uppp
Very nice i could not have said it better myself.
Thank you!!
1,000th like and damn
good vid. i'm not much of an analyst myself so i don't really know how to structure this but! good vid! subb'd!
Thank you so much!
Will you make more videos? Just found this channel and see there hasn't been a new vid in 8 months. Just watched everything in one night. You have covered a lot of my favourite films. You've done amazing work. I suggest The Rover by David Michôd as a possible next project.
Hi John - planning on it but life is a little crazy right now. I've started working on three separate ones:
The Green Knight
The Humans
After Yang
I'm also really looking forward to Men from A24 as well - will probably start on that once it comes out. Stick around, I'm hoping to have something done in 2-3 weeks time :) Cheers
@@TakeTwoReviews Amazing, thank you for the reply. I look forward to seeing all of it, especially Green Knight!
Perfect/accurate analysis of this movie and violence.
great video
Thanks Berkay! Happy you liked it 😊
Very good observations.
Thank you Tony!
I stumbled across the movie Speak No Evil, directed by Christian Tafdrup. I went in blind. Then realized in the middle of the 2nd play through, was saying that sometimes evil just simply exists. Then again as long as there are nieve & unsuspecting ppl, there will always someone or someones to prey on. It also made me think of the connection between a mother & her child/ children. Some mothers will do anything to hold onto or get their kid(s) back & there are some mothers that once he child is taken from her, her reson for existence is gone as well. I thought it was a good movie. A slow burn type movie
I'd love to see some commentary on Fast Colors. That movie deserves more attention.
Very good!
Thank you!
Cheers to you Take Two. Very lovely channel. Do you teach how to make short documentaries? If you do private lessons let me know, I'd like to do what you do with stories of songs and music.
Thank you so much! Unfortunately, I don’t teach - everything I put into videos is self-taught. But shoot me an email, I’d be happy to give my impressions on a specific song!
The hardest part of this movie was in the first rescue mission when the little girl walks out of the room cus its the first time you see how fucking awful that place truly is I didn't think I was ganna cry in this movie but seeing that little girl broke me
You deserve more subs
Tarantino made some good points about the 4th Rambo. The violence in that film is very consequential.
Awesome Film and Book
This is another one of those films i only need to watch once it was that impactful for me.
My take is Lynne Ramsay's focus (at least in We Need to Talk About Kevin and You Were Never Really Here) has been the cycle of violence. How it started, and how it could end.
This is one of my favorite movies.
I have a different take on the end of this film. I believe that when he finds the abuser dead, it breaks him because he couldn't save her innocence. She's now a murderer like him.
He also couldn't save his mother. For all of his violent intent, he has never made a difference.
And in the end, when he dreams about suicide he realises this wouldn't change a thing.
An impotent male. A broken boy. Who was never really here.
Jeremy Saulnier is also a director that uses violence very effectively, very rooted in reality which really drives it home. There is a scene in one of his films, The Green Room, where a character gets his arm stuck on a door while people are slashing at it with knives and razors. You can't see the hits connect, you can only hear them and see the agony and cries of the wounds being inflicted to him until he can finally pull his arm back inside the room again.
Then it hits you square in the face, his arm severely mangled, muscle fibers showing, his hand barely held to his arm by a sliver of skin and tendons, all covered in a very realistic shade of blood red. It's absolutely horrifying and lets the audience know that the antagonists are ruthless and savage enough to enjoy inflicting pain, which raises the stakes even higher. I always thought that it was a brilliant piece of visual storytelling, but most people I mention it to get stuck only on the graphical aspect of it and the point flies over their heads.
Well done
I think the first "the raid" movie does violence with stakes very well. The violence is brutal, but it's also effective because it's not clear who the main character even is, so no one feels safe.
You had me when you said violence. But, you know, the good kind.
The A24 streak continues - what movie do you want to see next?
Under the Silver Lake has so many things to unpack I would love to see that! Your video essays are amazing. I’m glad Spikima recommended you!
Hey, thanks Jesus! I love Spikima man, getting in touch with him was such a blessing 😊 Thats already two people that want UTSL, might be coming soon!
Hmmmmmmm The green knight just came out
That fucking Ending. Whew. Surely makes ya think.
What a film this is
The sniper scene in FMJ made my stomach turn it made me sick as a young man to see that type of violence movies and tv today is far gone from that but I’m almost use to it and I notice that movies and shows keep getting a little too close to actual death suffering it’s not a good thing I’m not completely numb but I’ve seen some things in life that never really affected me in the ways they should’ve tv needs to take it a step back 100%
When joe collapsed when he saw the governor, my take was that he first though he slight his own throat, and reflected on the fact that he wanted to kill himself too through the film, but was too "weak" to do it, as he said.
As a childhood sexual abuse survivor, this movie tackles the complicated relationship between childhood PTSD and the aimless need for vengeance a lot of us feel far better than any other movie I've ever seen.
I remember being really excited to see this. I went to the theater, it was totally empty, the perfect viewing experience. Then the movie started and I just kept waiting and waiting for it to click. Then the movie ended. After 3 times watching I just can't get past the feeling of this being a shallow movie masquerading as something deeper.
Hey ! Great video ! I'm writing my master's thesis on Lynne Ramsay and I wanted to quote your video if that's ok but you didn't put your name anywhere lmao so how should I credit you ?
Send me an email at thereal.taketwo@gmail.com ☺️
really loved under the silver lake, in s broken way maybe, would love to hear your thoughts.
Hah, I'm definitely going to cover it at some point, it's one of the funnest movies I've seen, in how many ridiculous twists and turns it makes. Will definitely consider it!
a video essay on that movie would be really interesting due to the fact that the movie sort of focuses on the purposelessness of finding meaning in things. or at least the absurdity of it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Shortstak13 Yep, definitely agree there's a nihilistic undertone to the movie, that comes across both anxiously dark, and delightfully cheery. It was a little polarizing, I'm not sure I've seen anything quite like it, but it's definitely magnetic.
I'd also like to see a video essay on this. I was pleasantly surprised by it after the not so generous reviews it received.
Under the silver lake, was such a fun watch. There's different ways to watch a movie, and fun was the only way to watch under the silver lake. I felt like I was watching in noir detective film with a ridiculous character. This movie, while people found it really hard to understand the meaning I found it very simple. It was an awesome movie
this movie has a "The Professional" feel
I love this movie so much
I’m 52, you said most of us won’t experience real violence in our life’s but I beg to differ, my father didn’t use words, just his hands and whatever he could put in them. I doubt I’m alone in this experience, I grew up to find violence extremely satiating and weirdly a protector of those that couldn’t do it for themselves. Years on things have changed but this movie definitely rings home for me.
I'm sorry to hear about your experience - thank you for sharing.
cool story bro
@@justincooper1884 Nothing cool about it!
I love this movie for the same reason I love the first Dishonored game. If you’ve played the game before I think you’ll understand the point I’m trying make. I’m too stupid to really articulate it lol
The Pacific has no memory Great quote
The Green Knight. Yes Please review. It’s a great a24 film
Could you make a video about Prisoners?
Definitely possible - love that movie! Thanks for the suggestion :)
Rally good movie I found it very random and it was up to your to interpret the story
It's THE PUNISHER : The Arthouse Years
famous sequel of im still here
I loved this movie.
Great video essay, that’s Captain America: Civil War though
So the young Joe is Bruce Wayne from Joker? Nice one
An aside; Was that one clip of Spy your opinion of the ENTIRE film?
Hahah no, the movie was fine ☺️
Ive seen enough LiveLeak to appreciate this film
Nice voice 😘👌
Anybody done a comparison between “You Were Never Really Here” and “Taxi Driver”?
the green knight or under the sliver lake please!!!
Under the Silver Lake is most likely next (and if it isn't next, it'll definitely be the one after that :D)
Most of us, but not all of us
You never wanted to be here 😭
I didn’t enjoy the movie as much as i thought i would. Everything seems to be just right for me but for some reason it falls a little flat.
It is one special movie. The kitchen favorite scene.