I have a one year old vineyard that I was planning on using a GDC but now I want to use this modified Munson System. I am a little confused about the yearly pruning. The picture at 18:18 with a description of what gets pruned off annually and what replaces it would be so helpful.
This is the best vedio of grapes wines . I have problems about the birds having party over my ripen. Do you have vedios about how to setting the birds nets...Thank you.
I just put my posts in 5 feet tall with 4 foot cross arms, six feet between posts. I plan on put a 2x4 between posts with four wire on cross arms and a single wire about 2 feet. I'm just putting this in! I'm planning on using pvc pipe to train the vine up. 2 green, One each red, purple. I like your netting if I have any problems with birds. Just south of Saint Louis MO. Thanks
Thanks for this video I learned a ton. A question I have would be after pruning to the long canes in the diagram the canes appeared to be wrapped around the inside 2 wires, has anyone tried just stretching the cane right on the wire and tying it to that inside wires every couple buds so you don't have some buds pointing down to the ground and risking breaking the shoot off when you go to position them on the catch wires? Also do you know what the tonnage would be compared to top wire cordon training (I would think it would be about the same or slightly more since this is similar to GDC)?
Great video's! I started watching them by skipping around, but now have been watching them all from #1 on up. One big question I have is, the Modified Munson grapevine training system you say is for growing table grapes. Why not wine grapes? Is it because, as you said in the video, that this system is not good for growing cordons, and needs to use long [4'] cane pruning? Are table grapes better suited to cane pruning than wine grapes?
I'm no expert, I have planted wine and table, but they are only a year old. From what I've read, table grapes have the bunches on the 5th-6th node from the base. Wine grapes are closer to the base on the 2nd-3rd node. So you could have munson for wine grapes but they get enough sun being closer to the base and thus closer to the wire. The additional cost of wire and cross members and pruning labor makes it a waste. Table grapes bunches being farther away will get to much shade since there is 3-4 more leaves of shade. The outer wire holds up the shoot at the top wire level allowing the bunches to get more sun. Sort or holding the shoot it up to the sun a little longer before it drapes over and causes shading. I don't know why it has to be cane pruned and not spur, but I have seen that method for every table grape I've read about, so there must be something to it.
So I have watched this +100 times and really studied every single word lol - I built one in my backyard and wanted to see your opinion. I posted a video. Also I don't talk in the video but I do show the vine and how it's like 3" from the wire at the top of the vine it's real skinny and where the cane starts it's more than pencil thick. So my question is: should the top of the vine where it's going to connect to the wire be pencil sickness or should I be pencil thickness where it comes out of the trunk? For canes that I'll be training this year and next?
By the way thanks for taking the time to read this :) if you can check out the video I posted and lmk 👍🤓 you have no idea how much I'd appreciate it...✌🏻🌻🌱
I have a one year old vineyard that I was planning on using a GDC but now I want to use this modified Munson System. I am a little confused about the yearly pruning. The picture at 18:18 with a description of what gets pruned off annually and what replaces it would be so helpful.
Excellent video! Very clear illustration and explanation.
This is the best vedio of grapes wines .
I have problems about the birds having party over my ripen. Do you have vedios about how to setting the birds nets...Thank you.
Very helpful video - thank you!
I just put my posts in 5 feet tall with 4 foot cross arms, six feet between posts. I plan on put a 2x4 between posts with four wire on cross arms and a single wire about 2 feet. I'm just putting this in! I'm planning on using pvc pipe to train the vine up. 2 green, One each red, purple. I like your netting if I have any problems with birds. Just south of Saint Louis MO. Thanks
Thanks for this video I learned a ton. A question I have would be after pruning to the long canes in the diagram the canes appeared to be wrapped around the inside 2 wires, has anyone tried just stretching the cane right on the wire and tying it to that inside wires every couple buds so you don't have some buds pointing down to the ground and risking breaking the shoot off when you go to position them on the catch wires? Also do you know what the tonnage would be compared to top wire cordon training (I would think it would be about the same or slightly more since this is similar to GDC)?
Best place to learn how to long cane prune?
Great video's! I started watching them by skipping around, but now have been watching them all from #1 on up.
One big question I have is, the Modified Munson grapevine training system you say is for growing table grapes. Why not wine grapes? Is it because, as you said in the video, that this system is not good for growing cordons, and needs to use long [4'] cane pruning? Are table grapes better suited to cane pruning than wine grapes?
I'm no expert, I have planted wine and table, but they are only a year old. From what I've read, table grapes have the bunches on the 5th-6th node from the base. Wine grapes are closer to the base on the 2nd-3rd node. So you could have munson for wine grapes but they get enough sun being closer to the base and thus closer to the wire. The additional cost of wire and cross members and pruning labor makes it a waste. Table grapes bunches being farther away will get to much shade since there is 3-4 more leaves of shade. The outer wire holds up the shoot at the top wire level allowing the bunches to get more sun. Sort or holding the shoot it up to the sun a little longer before it drapes over and causes shading. I don't know why it has to be cane pruned and not spur, but I have seen that method for every table grape I've read about, so there must be something to it.
Good day, I've learned Thompson seedless has to be cane pruned but could I cane prune concord grapes with the modified Munson training system? Thanks.
So I have watched this +100 times and really studied every single word lol - I built one in my backyard and wanted to see your opinion. I posted a video. Also I don't talk in the video but I do show the vine and how it's like 3" from the wire at the top of the vine it's real skinny and where the cane starts it's more than pencil thick. So my question is: should the top of the vine where it's going to connect to the wire be pencil sickness or should I be pencil thickness where it comes out of the trunk? For canes that I'll be training this year and next?
By the way thanks for taking the time to read this :) if you can check out the video I posted and lmk 👍🤓 you have no idea how much I'd appreciate it...✌🏻🌻🌱
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