I’ve got a 2001 X5 at 155k. When I bought it the transmission was juddering between gear shifts and skipping when cruising at 50mph. I did the double fluid change and it’s been fine for the last 4 years. Trans service is a must every 50k in my book.
2003 330xi w/GM auto. "Lifetime" fluid. Started having some shift problems, during the 3 days a year that it gets below 40 degrees here in Florida, at about 125k. Did some research, knowing full well that there is no such thing as a "lifetime" fluid, unless you consider 100k miles a lifetime. After communicating with Castrol, I decided to use their 'All Import ATF'. Changed the fluid and filter, and it has shifted firm and strong for the past 55k miles.
Been using the Valvoline Maxlife in ZF & GM transmissions for a while now, done a few fluid changes without issue. It’s good stuff but you’re spot on about the smell!
@@gail6904 I have had 2 N52 cars. 1 was a 128i with RWD and had a plastic pan. The other was Xdrive (AWD in BMW-eese) and had a metal pan. I'm pretty sure the ZF gearboxes (6 speed) use a plastic pan and the GM gearboxes (5 speed) use a metal one. Either way they have an integrated filter and should therefore be replaced any time you're changing the fluid.
ZF in Germany told me it should be done at 150k km so some 90k miles and for sportier types or people often cruising at freeways in high speeds even earlier. They do not recommend flush but only to drain it and change the gasket which contains filter. This changes about 2/3 of the oil. I did this and my transmision 6hp feels softer now.
I changed the fluid & filter (myself) at 100k in my 2001 ( purchased new) 525. It has the ZF trans. Had no problem at all afterwards. Btw i live in Massachusetts. I used the ZF fluid. Now has 227k on it and still tight. Ready to change again. I went to Fcp euro for the fluid & filter.
Great videos man. I'm a first time used BMW owner... you've helped me out a ton with all your information. I'm about to take my 325i to hopefully 300k miles haha. I can hope right!
I just hit over 300,000 on my 06 530i and transmission malfunction light came on Faith changing the trans filter oil solenoids , crank shaft spark plugs and terminals will fix it .
The Valvoline multi vehicle synthetic ATF is liquid gold! Used on the family E60 550i going on almost 2 years. Your channel inspired me to DIY it. Almost used Castrol but went with this instead. I also used Valvoline for the power steering fluid! I know it calls for CHF, but sofar so good! I bought an Amazon sourced cheap transmission pan/filter and it sealed up perfectly! It was missing 2 new bolts so I just reused the old bolts in separate areas on the pan. 🤞🏽
Eiron Warrington Yep the ZF 6HP!! Make sure you look up videos on how to fill it to proper level. Idle and top off the trans in less than 10mins or the fluid gets too hot and spews out. Use a scanner to monitor temp or just go by time. I remember seeing a write up on a forum, but there was also RUclips vids on other cars that have ZF (Chrysler for instance). Good luck!
Short answer: Yes. It'll help prolong the life of your gearbox. Will it fix an already bad one? Probably not. My ZF 5HP24 out of my 2001 540i had 148k miles on it and had never been changed in 18 years. I dropped the fluid and refilled it using the correct procedure and it made an improvement - contrary to the horror stories I read online.
@James Edward same tranny in my e38. I changed it with the Max Life at 220k and no problems to report in 1.5 years since the fluid change. That stuff does stink though. Don't open it in your kitchen, and get that neat little pump deal on Amazon. It works great.
vviiper I changed the transmission fluid in a lot of high mileage cars and I never had any issues after the service was done, If your transmission is in good condition you shouldn’t have any problems no matter how many miles the car have.
@@makemoneyonline8793 Yeah basically if it's operating as normal, servicing it is fine and should help prolong the life and improve gearbox operation. If it's already knackered, a service won't help in most cases.
Thank you so dang much for the information bubba! I'm gonna drain my transmission fluid and replace it 1st then when I get money issues out the way, I'll do the pan and filter! Thank u
I emailed ZF re: my 8 speed and they told me the change interval should be 40k to 6pk. I had my dealer change it at about 40k. Have now gone another 20k miles with no issues. Changing it too late may cause problems.
Nathan thank you! Next project on my car is changing the transmission fluid. Seriously was talking to my boss just today about this. Thanks for the fluid recommend.
John Azhderian it’s still a sarcastic term to mislead customers, if you call any bmw dealership and mention anything about tranny fluid change, they will tell you they don’t do that.
Yep. But why is there a gearbox oil change manual in ISTA+? hahaha. The only thing they want is to change your megatronic unit ($2500)( because it failed by bad gear oil!!!). Here in Europe, they're called Stealerships aswell. Dutch regards, Nico
Oil in engine or gearbox it's exactly like the oil which you use when cooking and potatos or meat or anything else,loose his propertys and need replaced!JUST CHANGE HIM
Ive own 728 E38,bought it 3 years ago,didn't saw it nothing in his history anything about gearbox oil.Last year ive been replaced 3 times and this year one more time,6 liters of ATF and the filter which her in Englad was cost me just 55£(58$ or 57 €)!Its not a big deal,just do it!KEEP UP NATHAN
Well, I went to a independent BMW transmission specialist. He confirmed the transmission had some issues related to the torque converter, and the valve body needed to come down and taken apart and cleaned. The sleeves needed to be replaced. Again no codes, no leaks, proper level. The technician said nothing about the transmission slipping like Norwood BMW, MA. I’m taking a week off after this covid 19 is over, and doing it my self. I’m going to make a video. I’m going to do what you said. The technician wanted to do a flush, my eye brows raised lol. No way. The fluid has never been changed since 2008.
Thats what used when i changed my e46 this past summer. I did the e60 with the brown zf atf this past summer aswell. I probably stick with valvaline next time i do the e60.
My 97 528i has developed a shifting issue. 224000 on the dial. It will only shift up manually. As if I had the sport shift option. Pretty sure I don’t. So, if I put it in drive. And take off on the highway, it will not shift up. If I put shift in 1st, then nurse the throttle up, until close to redline, it will shift. And I have to do this through each gear.felt lucky, it got me home . Don’t know what to do? It’s not leaking.
Thanks for the reassurance. I have 185,000 on my 335i and I just want to get a few more years out of it and using Valvoline and saving over $150 will be preferred.
I worked for ZF and remember having many transmissions coming in with red fluid. Clutches were burnt and yes smelled like burnt. Cost thousands to fix those transmissions.
As the owner of 2 ZF 5HP19 equipped E46's, driven aggressively, YES, change the fluid!!! FYI: Don't waste your $90 on Redline ATF, Valvoline MAX Life works great for ~$30. Don't ask me how I know!
I have a Touring with GM auto trans. Changed trans fluid, filter, and new pan bolts and gasket. Wow much smoother shifting especially in cold weather. Bottom of pan near magnet had dark sludge.
I have a '06 330i with 100k miles on it. I took it to the dealer to have the transmission fluid changed and to fix 3 recalls. The dealer told me that the transmission fluid did not need to be changed on that model. I didn't think that sounded right.
I bought a 2015 BMW X5 DIESEL 107000 Miles runs great. Since I do not know when it was last serviced, should I get all the fluids changed motor oil, trans, exhaust fluid?
Ok, i did a drain and fill on my zf6hp19 with the valvoline. I had a 4-5 flare before i did it and it seemed to fix that for me. No more ZF fluid for me, only Valvoline max life. I have a lot of miles on the car. Changed fluid and pan @ 150k miles with ZF and drove 90 K with flare if pushed hard it would flare so i just drove it easy for the 90 K to prevent it flaring. Drain and fill with Valvoline @ 240k. ZF fluid is about 5 times more expensive also
I'm really on the fence about having preventative maintenance done with my 2011 e90 transmission. BMW dealers and a transmission expert told me to leave it alone since I don't have any issues, other mechanics tell me to change it before I have a problem (currently at 95K). The transmission expert told me he's been specializing in transmissions for 40 years and if I get some work done now and nothing is wrong I am asking for problems. I'm so confused!
@saeedh2603 I did. Long story short, I wish I would have done it sooner. I waited too long (133K) and my transmission may be going out. Best to get done around 100K... that is what the maker (GM) of the transmissions say. DO NOT BELIEVE BMW WHO SAYS IT IS "LIFETIME"... it is only good for 100K. I started to get codes telling me the fluid was deteriorated. That means it's past due.
@saeedh2603 Just wanted to add - I had some issues for a day or so, however after that it drove much smoother after I changed it. I can tell the difference, better torque.
@saeedh2603 Change it before 100K... find someone who knows how to change the filter as well, I got the parts from FCP Euro. With one change you will only get a quarter to half of the oil out (fluid will still be in the torque converter) Change it about 3 times within a few days or a week apart to get the fluid as fresh as possible. However you only need to change the filter and seal once.
Thank you for the advice but I still wanted to ask I just got a 2004 E60 525d with almost 200k miles. Do you think it's a good idea to change the trans fluid if there is no record of it being done. I'm asking since there is a theory that if it has not been regularly changed it might slip if I change it.
I have '08 BMW 328xi Coupe (Automatic Transmission). The car now has 121,000 miles. I bought the car when it had 54,000 miles and I'm wondering if I should change the transmission fluid. I heard some people say that it may cause more trouble changing it? Thanks. I ran a scan on the car, and one of the codes that is shows is: "578E Gearbox oil: wear".
@Nathans BMW Workshop, would you recommend changing the filter on a 2008 328i with 154k miles on it and was obviously driven hard and not cared for like it should have been but I’m restoring it properly with proper parts and fluids I just want to know if you recommend the filter change with me not knowing if the transmission has ever been serviced before.
My first BMW and the dealer wanted to charge me $2700 to replace solenoid and oil lmao thanks now I did my research and imma spend a measly $400 DIY. Appreciate the knowledge.
Need help. When I was changing my transmission fluid and filter. As I was looking for the fill plug and could not locate it. I seen a 19mm plug just in front of the pan. I thought that must be the fill plug. I removed it and out came a spring and a fitting with 3 Bent prongs. It looks like there should have been something like a ball bearing that seats in the prongs that I didnt see fall out. I looked in the hole with a scope. Nothing stuck ip there and the prongs didnt match up with the fitting with holes up in there. I looked around didnt see anything else. Is there just the threaded plug the spring
did my e46 2001 325xi about 9 years ago with Valvoline MaxLife, drove over 40,000mi no issues before I sold it still running well. I am working on my wife's Z3 1998 , solenoid A and B replacement so watching through your videos for info. Bought some more Maxlife from Walmart, had free shipping over $25 so they arrived on my porch two days after I placed the order. Thanks for all your videos.
How does Valvoline MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF Full Synthetic 1 Gallon compare to Castrol Transmax Import Multi-Vehicle ATF 1 Gallon? Didn't you recommend Castrol stuff before, I see this is listed as Full Synthetic unlike Castrol but both are bmw approved. Very similar price at walmart.
The current 8-speed ZF transmissions are SO COMPLICATED to just change the fluid -- it's insane. I had a car once (not a BMW) that had no transmission filter and just a drain plug. It was sooooo simple -- I changed the trans fluid all the time. Now days it's so freaking complicated. Have to have a lift, get a new pan (filter in the pan) fill from UNDER THE FUCKING CAR, get car to the perfect temperature (need special equipment that will read the trans temp), then top off the trans again (from under the car, of course). Your ordinary joe does not have car lifts and special equipment to read the trans temp. Nor do they know how to fill the trans from UNDER the car. It's flat out stupid -- I seriously think they made it difficult on purpose. If they WANT you to change it why not make it easier????? Like a fill tube from the top and an external filter -- and GEE -- I don't know -- MAYBE a fucking dip stick??!? Seriously WTF? !00% serious -- why do the do this?
They could easily put a fill tube from the pan up through the engine compartment. Total bullshit. I agree with you. Just changed my pan, seals, bridge, and fluid and did not like having to be on my back to fill it!
Great observation and post. It’s so difficult I have read that pros can’t refill them properly. I’m not changing mine. My E38 has 180,000 miles. We’ll see how the E39 530 goes. F25 and F30 are also wait and see.
In talking with some ZF engineers they said they would change the fluid at 100k. I wish there was an easier way however to change the fluid, in particular the refill. There’s a market for a fill tube/dipstick mod that attaches to the fill port of the ZF transmissions to make refill a simple process. A drain plug on the pan is an easy do it yourself mod also.
Bless you Nathan!! I've been getting a shudder, long lag, then hard shift into gear from a stops and sometimes get the reduced acceleration transmission message on iDrive.I've tried resetting the adaptations and each time I get different shift points. I'm going to replace my pan and fluid. Hopefully it fixes my issue.
BMW AT 93 e36 m40b18 engine have 105k miles. There is a sudden jolt when I change P or N or D. When I drive slow, automatic transmission, a yellow sign appeared. After restarting the car, the yellow sign disappeared. Should I change transmission fluid?
I have a used 07 bmw 328xi coupe it's kinda of jerking in 2nd or 3rd gear an I haven't changed any fluids on it yet I've jus had the car for bout 5months now changing the transmission fluid would help that gear shift smoothly correct whts your opinion on it
Anyone know anything about crazy hesitation or shaking on acceleration. Shakes on light acceleration between 10 and 20 MPH then feels like it drops a gear when pushing past 80MPH uphill?
I just had my gm oil change and the mechanic didn't do the job right. He didn't leave the car running to cycle the fluid, I watched him fill the fluid to the point it dripped out a little, then he closed the fill whole. Now my transmission slips in 1 and 2 in normal drive but not so much in my manual mode. My car is an 08 328i 160k+ miles it was driving lovely before the fluid change. I was getting a code for deteriorating fluid in the transmission which is the reason for the fluid change. If push comes to shove I want to replace the transmission and want to know if I'll be able to swap a gm to zf in a 08 328i.
NATHAN ~pLEASE ANSWER ON A 2008 bmw 328I i CANT GET THE POWER STEERING PUMP HIGH PRESSURE banjo BOLT OFF THE PUMP..IM TRYING TO CHANGE THE HIGH PRESSURE POWER STEERING HOSES..I TOOK THE BOTTOM CAR SHIELD OFF (ENGINE BLACK PLASTIC SHIELD) BUT i CANT GET ANY SOCKET TO FIT WITH THE AUTO. TRANNI COOLING LINES IN THE WAY..I TRIED A SWIVEL AND ABOUT 50 OTHER TOOLS..PLEASE HELP! THE OTHER BOLT CAME LOOSE WITH A SMALL BREAKER BAR..I CNAT EVEN FIT ANY BREAKER BAR IN THERE..DO I HAVE TO TAKE OFF TIRE/FENDER SHIELD? THANKS
@@NathansBMWWorkshop Ill try but i cant even get in there with those darn cooler lines in the way..do i have to take tire off and fender plastic piece? thank u very much ty also for ur videos
@@NathansBMWWorkshop Really enjoy your videos. So I am one of the guys that was told not to change transmission fluid. I have 2004 545i. I have 280k miles. The car has been well maintained. I bought it with 150k. I put 100k+ miles in about 2 years. I have not had any shifting issues. I looked on what maintenance records were available and do not see a trans fluid change. So its possible its never been done. Based on this video I think I would drain it and refill like you said, then go,back and change filter and refill. Any advice based on what Ive told you. Thank you in advance.
Thank you very much man ‘ first time owner just bought a 2008 650i and i was shifting ok but not good I had like a lag when u down shift I decided to do a transmission fluid change but people told me that I was going to messed up the car ‘ now with this info I’m about to go for it 👍
@@alejandroochoa3541 I had the same issue with the down shifting hard. The part I chose cost me about $100. Plus an hours labor at a local Volvo shop by my job $120, and a $127 diag fee. So with tax and shop fees $387. It was the Idle air bypass solenoid. Now it drives like a champ. The check engine light stayed on, but is the MAF sensor not the first one in the driver side, but the other one on the left side connected to the hose.
Another good honest informative video Nathan, my 540i is lined up to have a fluid change this Xmas. Trans was rebuilt about 6 years ago but its started to act like the torque converter isnt locking up under light throttle in top gear, fingers crossed this will sort it out.
I have a 2011 BMW automatic 328i XDrive with 94k miles on it! Car fax shows no history of the transmission fluid/filter being serviced! I’m assuming it has the original BMW transmission fluid in the tranny! Im going to drain & not do a complete flush on the transmission…. Mixing V-MaxLife & the original BMW transmission fluid cause damage…..?
Hi everyone question i have a bmw x5 e70 2012 n55 engine with 119k miles i bought a transmission fluid kit service from fcp euro with the pan is it safe to change the fluid or is too late now people keep telling me not to do it bc of the milege of the car what are your thoughts should i do this or not the car shifts perfect with no problems ?
I have a question for you I live in Scottsdale AZ and in the summers here it gets up to 120 degrees. I have a must loved and very well cared for 2009 BMW z4 with the 3.0 six . The car now has just turned over 80k and have owed it for a year now .I have been doing all of the required matiness so at the the BMW repair shop that i take my car too says that don't change the ATF. The car runs great and shifts fine but with this many miles on her have no idea if it has been changed before. Should I tell them for a piece of mind have them do it anyway. I believe on this trans the filter is built into the pan . Thanks for any help on this
Hi so I have a 08 bmw with 103,000 miles I bought from someone else so I want to do a transmission flush myself so I have a German transmission just wondering which fluid is recommended for it
Thanks for this info Nathan! Do you still stand by this fluid recommendation and have you have any future problems to date now that we're currently in 2023?
I have a e39 540 with 230k miles and I think the car have never had the trans fluid changed, you guys think I should change the fluid now or just leave it be?
I've never done bwm ATF fluid change, but I know all liquids degrade over time and need to be replaced at necessary service intervals.. Also the people having issues may have been doing a complete flush, for a long overdue ATF fluid change.. If oil is black (burnt) chances are the trans has had some damage.. Instead of flush it's best to change fluid few times, perhaps around 100mile intervals.. Even if you drain 4 to 6 quarts, chanes are there is another 6 to 8 still remaining in the system.. A few fluid changes will normalize, without flushing out all the particles a neglected transmission fluid would normally have.. Causing slipping during shifts or shuddering with some cvt, or even completely failing..
Ever tried washing out the pan/filter and reusing it? While I have seen certain solvents turn a filter from porous to a barrier, it seems like it would be possible to clean. Think it's worth it?
I have a 2006 BMW E92 that I got about a year ago and it currently has about 172k miles and I do not know if the fluid has ever been changed throughout the cars life. What would be the right call? As far as Im aware I am not having upshift or downshift issues and the color of the fluid is light brown with a slight hue of red.
My personal experience with BMW transmission .. I wasn’t down shifting back to 1st gear when stopping .. I swapped the trans and it wouldn’t shift at all .. couldn’t get it out of park and I kept getting a DTC I forget the code number but it was say cast not recognized so I kept the valve body that came with the new trans and put my old cast back in and it started shifting again and I haven’t had problem since .. it’s been about 3 months anyone that has a FO2 this may help u ... no thanks needed glad I can pass on the knowledge..
MaxLife ATF has kept my diesel Mercedes running smoothly for 250,000 miles. I also ran it in my VW TDI for 120,000 miles. Great stuff if it's compatible with your transmission.
Hey Nathan i have a 2004 bmw 330ci ZHP auto with the GM box. It has 91k miles and there is no history of service. Is it safe to do a service now with Redline D4 and filter change.
The valvoline viscosity is not higher at operating temperature. Check the specifications of zf vs. valvoline. Not saying valvoline is not equivalent to zf,
@@NathansBMWWorkshop It's RWD Thank you! Out of 65 cars it's my 1st German car and if it wasn't for people like you making these youtube videos I would have already burned this car to the ground! Previous owner didn't take car of the car very well.
I’ve got a 2001 X5 at 155k. When I bought it the transmission was juddering between gear shifts and skipping when cruising at 50mph. I did the double fluid change and it’s been fine for the last 4 years. Trans service is a must every 50k in my book.
I got a 2001 3.0 X5 with 113k I can feel the tranny needs a change but not sure exactly what to do and what do you mean by “double fluid change”
@@davidrodriguez6287 I think he means that you drain, pour in and turn it over and run through some gears, then dump it again and then final fill.
@@dbarbush exactly what I did & my X5 runs way better now
My x5 was fine until I changed the fluid at 170k miles and now its slipping... fail
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Any updates on your transaction?
2003 330xi w/GM auto.
"Lifetime" fluid. Started having some shift problems, during the 3 days a year that it gets below 40 degrees here in Florida, at about 125k. Did some research, knowing full well that there is no such thing as a "lifetime" fluid, unless you consider 100k miles a lifetime. After communicating with Castrol, I decided to use their 'All Import ATF'.
Changed the fluid and filter, and it has shifted firm and strong for the past 55k miles.
Been using the Valvoline Maxlife in ZF & GM transmissions for a while now, done a few fluid changes without issue. It’s good stuff but you’re spot on about the smell!
is the 2008 BMW an N52 GM tranni metal pan or plastic its 2 wheel rear drive?
@@gail6904 I have had 2 N52 cars. 1 was a 128i with RWD and had a plastic pan. The other was Xdrive (AWD in BMW-eese) and had a metal pan.
I'm pretty sure the ZF gearboxes (6 speed) use a plastic pan and the GM gearboxes (5 speed) use a metal one. Either way they have an integrated filter and should therefore be replaced any time you're changing the fluid.
ZF in Germany told me it should be done at 150k km so some 90k miles and for sportier types or people often cruising at freeways in high speeds even earlier.
They do not recommend flush but only to drain it and change the gasket which contains filter. This changes about 2/3 of the oil.
I did this and my transmision 6hp feels softer now.
ZF fluid? or Valvoline?
ZF here in africa recommended changing trans fluid every +/-60,000km. Its hot over here all four seasons. Our winters are very mild to say to least.
It’s a must to change the fluid in the zf boxes what ever fluid you use life guard 6 or if over 100k use redline d4 or what Nathan is using
Awesome Thanks!
I changed the fluid & filter (myself) at 100k in my 2001 ( purchased new) 525. It has the ZF trans. Had no problem at all afterwards. Btw i live in Massachusetts. I used the ZF fluid. Now has 227k on it and still tight. Ready to change again. I went to Fcp euro for the fluid & filter.
Great videos man. I'm a first time used BMW owner... you've helped me out a ton with all your information. I'm about to take my 325i to hopefully 300k miles haha. I can hope right!
Me and you both I’m praying. I’m at about 223k now. 🙌🏼🙏🏻
I’m at 251,xxx 🙏🏽
I just hit over 300,000 on my 06 530i and transmission malfunction light came on Faith changing the trans filter oil solenoids , crank shaft spark plugs and terminals will fix it .
I'm at 235 on my 325i
Seen this post im at 291k N52 motors are the best i seen one at 350k
The Valvoline multi vehicle synthetic ATF is liquid gold! Used on the family E60 550i going on almost 2 years. Your channel inspired me to DIY it. Almost used Castrol but went with this instead. I also used Valvoline for the power steering fluid! I know it calls for CHF, but sofar so good! I bought an Amazon sourced cheap transmission pan/filter and it sealed up perfectly! It was missing 2 new bolts so I just reused the old bolts in separate areas on the pan. 🤞🏽
Rudy VQdriver 6hp19 transmission?
Eiron Warrington Yep the ZF 6HP!! Make sure you look up videos on how to fill it to proper level. Idle and top off the trans in less than 10mins or the fluid gets too hot and spews out. Use a scanner to monitor temp or just go by time. I remember seeing a write up on a forum, but there was also RUclips vids on other cars that have ZF (Chrysler for instance). Good luck!
Short answer: Yes. It'll help prolong the life of your gearbox. Will it fix an already bad one? Probably not. My ZF 5HP24 out of my 2001 540i had 148k miles on it and had never been changed in 18 years. I dropped the fluid and refilled it using the correct procedure and it made an improvement - contrary to the horror stories I read online.
@James Edward same tranny in my e38. I changed it with the Max Life at 220k and no problems to report in 1.5 years since the fluid change. That stuff does stink though. Don't open it in your kitchen, and get that neat little pump deal on Amazon. It works great.
@Gustavo Estrada I changed out my filter when I did the procedure. Those things can get clogged up and starve the pump of fluid if the get clogged.
vviiper
I changed the transmission fluid in a lot of high mileage cars and I never had any issues after the service was done, If your transmission is in good condition you shouldn’t have any problems no matter how many miles the car have.
@@makemoneyonline8793 Yeah basically if it's operating as normal, servicing it is fine and should help prolong the life and improve gearbox operation. If it's already knackered, a service won't help in most cases.
Simple answer - ZF manufacture recommends fluid changes in the 60k mileage. There simply isn’t ANY petroleum based fluids that are “lifetime”.
I rebuilt my ZF5HP19 transmission and use maxlife. I have 2000 miles on it now with no issues.
Thank you so dang much for the information bubba! I'm gonna drain my transmission fluid and replace it 1st then when I get money issues out the way, I'll do the pan and filter! Thank u
I emailed ZF re: my 8 speed and they told me the change interval should be 40k to 6pk. I had my dealer change it at about 40k. Have now gone another 20k miles with no issues. Changing it too late may cause problems.
Nathan thank you! Next project on my car is changing the transmission fluid. Seriously was talking to my boss just today about this. Thanks for the fluid recommend.
And yet those criminals at the stealership been brainwashing customers saying it’s a lifetime fluid do not change it smh.
When they "lifetime" fluid they mean the lifetime of the fluid not the transmission.
John Azhderian it’s still a sarcastic term to mislead customers, if you call any bmw dealership and mention anything about tranny fluid change, they will tell you they don’t do that.
Yep. But why is there a gearbox oil change manual in ISTA+? hahaha. The only thing they want is to change your megatronic unit ($2500)( because it failed by bad gear oil!!!). Here in Europe, they're called Stealerships aswell. Dutch regards, Nico
Oil in engine or gearbox it's exactly like the oil which you use when cooking and potatos or meat or anything else,loose his propertys and need replaced!JUST CHANGE HIM
Ive own 728 E38,bought it 3 years ago,didn't saw it nothing in his history anything about gearbox oil.Last year ive been replaced 3 times and this year one more time,6 liters of ATF and the filter which her in Englad was cost me just 55£(58$ or 57 €)!Its not a big deal,just do it!KEEP UP NATHAN
Well, I went to a independent BMW transmission specialist. He confirmed the transmission had some issues related to the torque converter, and the valve body needed to come down and taken apart and cleaned. The sleeves needed to be replaced. Again no codes, no leaks, proper level. The technician said nothing about the transmission slipping like Norwood BMW, MA. I’m taking a week off after this covid 19 is over, and doing it my self. I’m going to make a video. I’m going to do what you said. The technician wanted to do a flush, my eye brows raised lol. No way. The fluid has never been changed since 2008.
Thats what used when i changed my e46 this past summer. I did the e60 with the brown zf atf this past summer aswell. I probably stick with valvaline next time i do the e60.
My 97 528i has developed a shifting issue. 224000 on the dial. It will only shift up manually. As if I had the sport shift option. Pretty sure I don’t. So, if I put it in drive. And take off on the highway, it will not shift up. If I put shift in 1st, then nurse the throttle up, until close to redline, it will shift. And I have to do this through each gear.felt lucky, it got me home . Don’t know what to do? It’s not leaking.
Thanks for the reassurance. I have 185,000 on my 335i and I just want to get a few more years out of it and using Valvoline and saving over $150 will be preferred.
So did you use Valvoline MaxLife? How was it?
I changed mine it was easy and it worked fine just fluid at 80k miles never had an issues
I worked for ZF and remember having many transmissions coming in with red fluid. Clutches were burnt and yes smelled like burnt. Cost thousands to fix those transmissions.
As the owner of 2 ZF 5HP19 equipped E46's, driven aggressively, YES, change the fluid!!! FYI: Don't waste your $90 on Redline ATF, Valvoline MAX Life works great for ~$30. Don't ask me how I know!
Don’t think anyone really is here to ask you that. Wake up buddy. The video clearly suggested this already smh 😂
I have a Touring with GM auto trans. Changed trans fluid, filter, and new pan bolts and gasket. Wow much smoother shifting especially in cold weather. Bottom of pan near magnet had dark sludge.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world. You are making this world a better place. I appreciate your time. God bless you.
183,000 miles. E46 325i, zf box. never been changed. shifts fine. North Carolina, garage kept.
At that mileage dont dont dont touch it lol
Same here mines 165k floored it everywhere sense I got it XD
now up to 191K and still running fine.
@@TedSchoenling never got to do the flush?
@@formulabred3553 never been opened. ever. I"m now at 194K miles and still fine.
I thought you said Castrol transmax before a couple of years ago why the change?
I have a '06 330i with 100k miles on it. I took it to the dealer to have the transmission fluid changed and to fix 3 recalls. The dealer told me that the transmission fluid did not need to be changed on that model. I didn't think that sounded right.
Definitely not right. They're hoping to see you in a few months/years when your gearbox breaks.
I bought a 2015 BMW X5 DIESEL 107000 Miles runs great. Since I do not know when it was last serviced, should I get all the fluids changed motor oil, trans, exhaust fluid?
Ok, i did a drain and fill on my zf6hp19 with the valvoline. I had a 4-5 flare before i did it and it seemed to fix that for me. No more ZF fluid for me, only Valvoline max life. I have a lot of miles on the car. Changed fluid and pan @ 150k miles with ZF and drove 90 K with flare if pushed hard it would flare so i just drove it easy for the 90 K to prevent it flaring. Drain and fill with Valvoline @ 240k. ZF fluid is about 5 times more expensive also
Still recommend the Valvoline for your 6HP??
I'm really on the fence about having preventative maintenance done with my 2011 e90 transmission. BMW dealers and a transmission expert told me to leave it alone since I don't have any issues, other mechanics tell me to change it before I have a problem (currently at 95K). The transmission expert told me he's been specializing in transmissions for 40 years and if I get some work done now and nothing is wrong I am asking for problems. I'm so confused!
Hey, did you ever change it and how did it go ?
@saeedh2603 I did. Long story short, I wish I would have done it sooner. I waited too long (133K) and my transmission may be going out. Best to get done around 100K... that is what the maker (GM) of the transmissions say. DO NOT BELIEVE BMW WHO SAYS IT IS "LIFETIME"... it is only good for 100K. I started to get codes telling me the fluid was deteriorated. That means it's past due.
@saeedh2603 Just wanted to add - I had some issues for a day or so, however after that it drove much smoother after I changed it. I can tell the difference, better torque.
@@jank358 I’m have a 2011 e90 as well and I’m at 75k miles but I’m scared to change to fluid. Any tips or recommendations ?
@saeedh2603 Change it before 100K... find someone who knows how to change the filter as well, I got the parts from FCP Euro. With one change you will only get a quarter to half of the oil out (fluid will still be in the torque converter) Change it about 3 times within a few days or a week apart to get the fluid as fresh as possible. However you only need to change the filter and seal once.
Yes please do! I follow the dealership instructions not to and I ended up putting a all new one!
Thank you for the advice but I still wanted to ask
I just got a 2004 E60 525d with almost 200k miles. Do you think it's a good idea to change the trans fluid if there is no record of it being done. I'm asking since there is a theory that if it has not been regularly changed it might slip if I change it.
chamge it!
I have '08 BMW 328xi Coupe (Automatic Transmission). The car now has 121,000 miles. I bought the car when it had 54,000 miles and I'm wondering if I should change the transmission fluid. I heard some people say that it may cause more trouble changing it? Thanks. I ran a scan on the car, and one of the codes that is shows is: "578E Gearbox oil: wear".
@Nathans BMW Workshop, would you recommend changing the filter on a 2008 328i with 154k miles on it and was obviously driven hard and not cared for like it should have been but I’m restoring it properly with proper parts and fluids I just want to know if you recommend the filter change with me not knowing if the transmission has ever been serviced before.
My first BMW and the dealer wanted to charge me $2700 to replace solenoid and oil lmao thanks now I did my research and imma spend a measly $400 DIY. Appreciate the knowledge.
Fuck the stealerships lol, what model is yours ?
I have a BMW i135 convertible. My transmission icon is. coming on YELLOW. I hate going to the dealership. Should I change the fluid?
Need help. When I was changing my transmission fluid and filter. As I was looking for the fill plug and could not locate it. I seen a 19mm plug just in front of the pan. I thought that must be the fill plug. I removed it and out came a spring and a fitting with 3 Bent prongs. It looks like there should have been something like a ball bearing that seats in the prongs that I didnt see fall out. I looked in the hole with a scope. Nothing stuck ip there and the prongs didnt match up with the fitting with holes up in there. I looked around didnt see anything else. Is there just the threaded plug the spring
did my e46 2001 325xi about 9 years ago with Valvoline MaxLife, drove over 40,000mi no issues before I sold it still running well. I am working on my wife's Z3 1998 , solenoid A and B replacement so watching through your videos for info. Bought some more Maxlife from Walmart, had free shipping over $25 so they arrived on my porch two days after I placed the order. Thanks for all your videos.
Real nice worshop mate, lots of room !!
How does Valvoline MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF Full Synthetic 1 Gallon compare to Castrol Transmax Import Multi-Vehicle ATF 1 Gallon? Didn't you recommend Castrol stuff before, I see this is listed as Full Synthetic unlike Castrol but both are bmw approved. Very similar price at walmart.
What you consider changing the fluid at 154,000 miles too risky if never changed before? 2010 328i
No, change it no matter what, thats a old chevy myth from the 70's
The current 8-speed ZF transmissions are SO COMPLICATED to just change the fluid -- it's insane. I had a car once (not a BMW) that had no transmission filter and just a drain plug. It was sooooo simple -- I changed the trans fluid all the time. Now days it's so freaking complicated. Have to have a lift, get a new pan (filter in the pan) fill from UNDER THE FUCKING CAR, get car to the perfect temperature (need special equipment that will read the trans temp), then top off the trans again (from under the car, of course). Your ordinary joe does not have car lifts and special equipment to read the trans temp. Nor do they know how to fill the trans from UNDER the car. It's flat out stupid -- I seriously think they made it difficult on purpose. If they WANT you to change it why not make it easier????? Like a fill tube from the top and an external filter -- and GEE -- I don't know -- MAYBE a fucking dip stick??!? Seriously WTF? !00% serious -- why do the do this?
They could easily put a fill tube from the pan up through the engine compartment. Total bullshit. I agree with you. Just changed my pan, seals, bridge, and fluid and did not like having to be on my back to fill it!
Great observation and post. It’s so difficult I have read that pros can’t refill them properly. I’m not changing mine. My E38 has 180,000 miles. We’ll see how the E39 530 goes. F25 and F30 are also wait and see.
They want to sell you a new transmission, that's why
My car is BMW E39 520iA year 2000 with ZF A5S325Z. what oil in Transmission do i need on this. Some info and links.
I have a 2015 Bmw X4 35i With N55. 77k miles, Should I change it? it has not been done yet, runs well.
Hey, my f25 diesel transmission is jerky at cold start, 150k kms on it.. what are my options please ?
What about a 2014 428i x drive not shifting at all check engine says monitoring all ratio clutches
In talking with some ZF engineers they said they would change the fluid at 100k. I wish there was an easier way however to change the fluid, in particular the refill. There’s a market for a fill tube/dipstick mod that attaches to the fill port of the ZF transmissions to make refill a simple process. A drain plug on the pan is an easy do it yourself mod also.
really? you rock!!! for real? I have a 2015 Bmw x4 35i, N55, 77k miles, runs great, I should do it at 100k?
Bless you Nathan!! I've been getting a shudder, long lag, then hard shift into gear from a stops and sometimes get the reduced acceleration transmission message on iDrive.I've tried resetting the adaptations and each time I get different shift points. I'm going to replace my pan and fluid. Hopefully it fixes my issue.
Nmax92 try shutter stop they sell it at Advance Auto and on EBay,comes in a Red Tube
Derrick James fixed mine but it still shifts hard. And I need this car to go at least another 60k without issues so probably should change it
Oops is there just the three pieces the plug, the sprig, the pronged fitting? Or a fourth part?
BMW AT 93 e36 m40b18 engine have 105k miles. There is a sudden jolt when I change P or N or D. When I drive slow, automatic transmission, a yellow sign appeared. After restarting the car, the yellow sign disappeared. Should I change transmission fluid?
when you switched to MaxLife, how do you get the old fluid out? I don't like the idea mixing two different types of fluid.
i know on 6hp ones they have a drain plug usually replace the pan too
How much should I expect to pay for a local German Auto mechanic to replace the transmission fluid and reseal it.
I have a used 07 bmw 328xi coupe it's kinda of jerking in 2nd or 3rd gear an I haven't changed any fluids on it yet I've jus had the car for bout 5months now changing the transmission fluid would help that gear shift smoothly correct whts your opinion on it
Anyone know anything about crazy hesitation or shaking
on acceleration. Shakes on light acceleration between 10 and 20 MPH then feels like it drops a gear when pushing past 80MPH uphill?
What’s the bottom line 178,000 on mine not sure if it was ever done bought it used.
I just had my gm oil change and the mechanic didn't do the job right. He didn't leave the car running to cycle the fluid, I watched him fill the fluid to the point it dripped out a little, then he closed the fill whole. Now my transmission slips in 1 and 2 in normal drive but not so much in my manual mode.
My car is an 08 328i 160k+ miles it was driving lovely before the fluid change. I was getting a code for deteriorating fluid in the transmission which is the reason for the fluid change.
If push comes to shove I want to replace the transmission and want to know if I'll be able to swap a gm to zf in a 08 328i.
NATHAN ~pLEASE ANSWER ON A 2008 bmw 328I i CANT GET THE POWER STEERING PUMP HIGH PRESSURE banjo BOLT OFF THE PUMP..IM TRYING TO CHANGE THE HIGH PRESSURE POWER STEERING HOSES..I TOOK THE BOTTOM CAR SHIELD OFF (ENGINE BLACK PLASTIC SHIELD) BUT i CANT GET ANY SOCKET TO FIT WITH THE AUTO. TRANNI COOLING LINES IN THE WAY..I TRIED A SWIVEL AND ABOUT 50 OTHER TOOLS..PLEASE HELP! THE OTHER BOLT CAME LOOSE WITH A SMALL BREAKER BAR..I CNAT EVEN FIT ANY BREAKER BAR IN THERE..DO I HAVE TO TAKE OFF TIRE/FENDER SHIELD? THANKS
Use a wrench and hook another one to it to break it loose
@@NathansBMWWorkshop Ill try but i cant even get in there with those darn cooler lines in the way..do i have to take tire off and fender plastic piece? thank u very much ty also for ur videos
@@gail6904 I don’t remember on e90
is this good to use on a n20 528i xdrive ??
Much respect for what you do.
Thank you for honest advice and experience, love your videos man thanks a bunch
Thanks for watching
@@NathansBMWWorkshop Really enjoy your videos. So I am one of the guys that was told not to change transmission fluid. I have 2004 545i. I have 280k miles. The car has been well maintained. I bought it with 150k. I put 100k+ miles in about 2 years. I have not had any shifting issues. I looked on what maintenance records were available and do not see a trans fluid change. So its possible its never been done. Based on this video I think I would drain it and refill like you said, then go,back and change filter and refill. Any advice based on what Ive told you. Thank you in advance.
You freaked fixed that shudder I have on my 2009 528i ZF box. Thanks sooo much
Do you need to pull the valve body and change the rubber seals?
I agree never back flush, all it does is shoot everything back up into the transmission.
Thank you very much man ‘ first time owner just bought a 2008 650i and i was shifting ok but not good I had like a lag when u down shift I decided to do a transmission fluid change but people told me that I was going to messed up the car ‘ now with this info I’m about to go for it 👍
What happened
Update?
@@alejandroochoa3541 I had the same issue with the down shifting hard. The part I chose cost me about $100. Plus an hours labor at a local Volvo shop by my job $120, and a $127 diag fee. So with tax and shop fees $387. It was the Idle air bypass solenoid. Now it drives like a champ. The check engine light stayed on, but is the MAF sensor not the first one in the driver side, but the other one on the left side connected to the hose.
I have used this in my BMW ZF and also a Mercedes NAG1, works just fine and its so cheap at Walmart.
Which zf box (or which bimmer)?
What about Valvoline import the blue bottle
transmission started slipping I put some lucas in it and it fixed the slip, has 160,000 should I try a new filter and new fluid
How long did it last ??
@@kevingonzalez3519 seemed to half work but I probably should've dropped the pan and replaced filter and fluid then put 2-3 bottles of Lucas in
Can I use Maxlife after changing whole transmission pan and gasket?
Another good honest informative video Nathan, my 540i is lined up to have a fluid change this Xmas. Trans was rebuilt about 6 years ago but its started to act like the torque converter isnt locking up under light throttle in top gear, fingers crossed this will sort it out.
I have a 2011 BMW automatic 328i XDrive with 94k miles on it! Car fax shows no history of the transmission fluid/filter being serviced! I’m assuming it has the original BMW transmission fluid in the tranny! Im going to drain & not do a complete flush on the transmission…. Mixing V-MaxLife & the original BMW transmission fluid cause damage…..?
Hi everyone question i have a bmw x5 e70 2012 n55 engine with 119k miles i bought a transmission fluid kit service from fcp euro with the pan is it safe to change the fluid or is too late now people keep telling me not to do it bc of the milege of the car what are your thoughts should i do this or not the car shifts perfect with no problems ?
I have a question for you I live in Scottsdale AZ and in the summers here it gets up to 120 degrees. I have a must loved and very well cared for 2009 BMW z4 with the 3.0 six . The car now has just turned over 80k and have owed it for a year now .I have been doing all of the required matiness so at the the BMW repair shop that i take my car too says that don't change the ATF. The car runs great and shifts fine but with this many miles on her have no idea if it has been changed before. Should I tell them for a piece of mind have them do it anyway. I believe on this trans the filter is built into the pan . Thanks for any help on this
Change it, just the pan drop - no flushing. Use the Valvo suggested here or the OE fluid
Hi so I have a 08 bmw with 103,000 miles I bought from someone else so I want to do a transmission flush myself so I have a German transmission just wondering which fluid is recommended for it
My f10 535i Xdrive 2014 has 75k miles, is it late to change it’s trans fluid? I live in Chicago. Thanks
Thanks for this info Nathan! Do you still stand by this fluid recommendation and have you have any future problems to date now that we're currently in 2023?
I have a e39 540 with 230k miles and I think the car have never had the trans fluid changed, you guys think I should change the fluid now or just leave it be?
I dunno about using Valvoline Atf on a late model BMW with a ZF tranny
Why
I've never done bwm ATF fluid change, but I know all liquids degrade over time and need to be replaced at necessary service intervals.. Also the people having issues may have been doing a complete flush, for a long overdue ATF fluid change.. If oil is black (burnt) chances are the trans has had some damage.. Instead of flush it's best to change fluid few times, perhaps around 100mile intervals.. Even if you drain 4 to 6 quarts, chanes are there is another 6 to 8 still remaining in the system.. A few fluid changes will normalize, without flushing out all the particles a neglected transmission fluid would normally have.. Causing slipping during shifts or shuddering with some cvt, or even completely failing..
I have a e60 535i it has a hard time shifting into 4th gear and reduce power do any of yall know if i flush the tranny fluid it would fix it?
There is a jerk coming from 1st > 2nd upshift in E90 GM transmission. Is that normal or should the fluid be changed ?
So I use valvoline max life of the power steering too? cause the cap says ATF oil only
Ever tried washing out the pan/filter and reusing it? While I have seen certain solvents turn a filter from porous to a barrier, it seems like it would be possible to clean. Think it's worth it?
I have a 2006 BMW E92 that I got about a year ago and it currently has about 172k miles and I do not know if the fluid has ever been changed throughout the cars life. What would be the right call?
As far as Im aware I am not having upshift or downshift issues and the color of the fluid is light brown with a slight hue of red.
My 4th and 5th gear sensor is also going bad.
My 2012 X3 F25 just started having trouble downshifting going up hills. Do you think I still can save it if I use this method? Great video!
Thanks for sharing this video! I have an 02 BMW 745li. My gear PRND blinks. Could that mean fluid is low or solenoid replace?
My personal experience with BMW transmission .. I wasn’t down shifting back to 1st gear when stopping .. I swapped the trans and it wouldn’t shift at all .. couldn’t get it out of park and I kept getting a DTC I forget the code number but it was say cast not recognized so I kept the valve body that came with the new trans and put my old cast back in and it started shifting again and I haven’t had problem since .. it’s been about 3 months anyone that has a FO2 this may help u ... no thanks needed glad I can pass on the knowledge..
I have a 2015 bmw 530d with 140K kms, no issues .. should I change the transmission fluid ?
Can I just Change the fluid in the e 90 bmw 2011 328i . And not the filter
Nathan,is it safe to put some kind of engine cleaner in the oil crankcase to kind of wash out the inside of the motor ?
03 325i M54
Until I can get under the car and change it, will just putting more fluid in it help temporarily?
i have 2000 740i. 155.000 miles. Transmission fluid as far as i know has never been changed. Should i do it ? can i use zf fluid ?
i have x5 2007 and will
change it.
MaxLife ATF has kept my diesel Mercedes running smoothly for 250,000 miles.
I also ran it in my VW TDI for 120,000 miles.
Great stuff if it's compatible with your transmission.
I have a 2013 bme x6 m can i use this oil?? The valvoline you recommending ??
my 99 camry's transmission clunk when shifting from park to reversed.....that disappeared when i changed to maxlife
What do you recommend for 2014 BMW 750li xdrive...transmission fluid....
Hey Nathan i have a 2004 bmw 330ci ZHP auto with the GM box. It has 91k miles and there is no history of service. Is it safe to do a service now with Redline D4 and filter change.
hi is this valvoline can use for ZF6HP19
Ok, Nathan is a genius(I know he does not look like one, LOL)! Maxlife fixed my transmission issues!
The valvoline viscosity is not higher at operating temperature. Check the specifications of zf vs. valvoline. Not saying valvoline is not equivalent to zf,
What's the easiest way to tell what transmission I have? I have a 06 330i Automatic
If it’s a rwd it’s zf6hp19 , it it’s awd it’s a GM 5L30, the ZF will Have a plastic trans pan , the GM will Have a metal pan
@@NathansBMWWorkshop It's RWD Thank you! Out of 65 cars it's my 1st German car and if it wasn't for people like you making these youtube videos I would have already burned this car to the ground! Previous owner didn't take car of the car very well.