Grankuwagomon ace has to suspend the digimon to keep it from unsuspending….at around 8:10 the DM should have unsuspended. “Cards this effect suspended can't unsuspend during your opponent's next unsuspend phase.” DM was already suspended.
The grandkuwaga ace is really good because you can play it out for free off tyrant, suspend and stun 2 bodies, bottom deck a body and then pop a suspended tamer and the egg lets you swing at something by end of turn. You control an entire board with that combo
You can, but then GranKu gets blasted by anything since it has no protection... idk still have to test the deck more, but having LV5 AND LV6 Aces is too much. One's got to go
@@MrJsStrategyPlays Most green decks have zero protection. Hard play your Granku's if you need to but its a last resort. Use Metlife to stun bodies and digivolve over that with Granku to get bodies tamers off the board, then use end of turn tyrant to bottom deck a digimon, you'll have either wiped their board or wiped and stunned their only usable body. If they have something in the back you'll have at least two redirects most of the time and possibly 3 depending on which level five you have. I'm only running 3 metlifes because I only have 3 metlifes. I need to dig up a 4th. If you hate all the aces consider starter deck megakabu for security trashing when it destroys a digimon. Really helps the deck with taking chunks of your opponent when things aren't going your way and you just need to chip their board away.
How was his Paildramon stripping away the megakabuterimon ace from under your suspended Tyrant? Shouldn't he be immune to all digimon effects? Or does source stripping somehow circumvent that protection?
2:28 you cannot unsuspend here, because of the DNA paildramon bt16 it is a blanket effect so nothing on your board can unsuspend. Imperial could have kept his pail alive. Unless im silly and tyrant can be unaffected by Digi effects this early.
Tyrant says while this digimon is suspended, it is unaffected by the effects of your opponent's Digimon. Tyrant was suspended when he digivolved into Paildra. Am I missing something?
@@MrJsStrategyPlays No your correct he can unsuspend. He isn't effected by it even if it's a global effect.once he unsuspend then he is.then when he suspends again he'll be unaffected.
@@MrJsStrategyPlays i can see the problem yes, i cut my kuwaga down to 2 and added the stingmon that evolves for 1. Just trying to build stacks for less and choke the opponent early on so my overflow doesnt hurt as badly since they are further behind at that point. I found for myself that i need to find the kuwaga more often because at the end it comes out for free from tyrant and loses me the same memory as a hercules would in the same play
Like Faqo said you can't swing them play something unless you used rhinokabuteris when attacking effect. But also nothing in that imperial deck is protected from battle deletion unless they play or evo bt16 exvee which they didn't. Edit: im dumb, option gave protection from battle.
Heya. Given your commentary, I thought I should give some of my perspectives having been planning this deck for a while. First of all, and I tell this to everyone, replacing Hercules for Shivamon feels TERRIBLE. It is really nice to see consistency in getting a boss monster to exert control, better than a brick that will only show up in 4 niche matchups. Not sure you would want to remove Grankuwagamon ACE for it with some of the strong tamers, namely imperial, going around. In regards to the ACEs, I have personally commited on a 2/2 ratio between both. Neither of them are go to level 6s, and I include them mainly to deal with specific situations. MegaKabuterimon has been especially useful in the imperial matchup, when I do not have access to metallife or Izzy, which is somewhat common. RhinoKabuterimon is an inclusion you should consider. Swinging at End of Turn with Rhino to evolve into Tyrant for 3 is crazy nice. Generally evolving for a much more reduced cost is something the deck appreciates. Something I would also like to point out is I have found BT3 Terriermon as a floodgate to be generally more useful than pomu, as the memory gain applies to a bigger spread of matchups. Something to also consider is the use of ST17 Lopmon, that helps make your killing turns a little more secure. For a slow deck as Tyrant is, it really is some big help. Hope I could help!
Thanks for your tips. I haven't tried Rhino out, I've seen ppl play Cherry and Argo which I think I might gravitate toward. I'll have to test out Shiva too in that case, as for the Aces, I just find Tyrant way too slow and the overflow is such a detriment. But I would say I'm leaning toward MegaKabu being more necessary than GranKu as wild as that is to say I've been trying to figure out why people are playing the memory blocker rookies but I don't see it besides mirage? Or I guess numemon
@@MrJsStrategyPlays I agree, depending on your meta, GranKuwagamon might not push too much weight. Sometimes I see myself putting it to 3 just to have a reliable hard play to bottom deck 12k, but I am still undecided in that regard. As for the memory blockers, there are a couple instances. Vs Imperial, you stop them keeping turn after DNA, which I found is a little more consistently useful given that should that deck get rookies while you can not clear them, they generate all resources they want afterwards. You can make it harder for Looga to keep turn after going Fenrir. A lot of decks are teching memory boosts not only for the imperial matchup, but because they like it more over trainings, mainly Magna X, which makes it all the more valuable. Against Promo Ukko, which quite a few decks are running, you stop some memory gain. Vs Yellow Vaccine, it is a nice way to stop some memory gain from Patamon / Gatomon. As most floodgates, they are situationally dependant, but I have found them way more useful vs decks like Nume or Imperial than Pomumon would be.
You can activate the End of turn in any order BUT you can not activate when digi after the end of turn effects, the end of turn go AFTER all efects of digimons played or evolved resolve, in this case if you evolve in tyrant and play a digimon, bt16 dragon activate evo in Ace fighter and can bottomdeck your digi before you can go to end of turn
So then was DonkeyKnogg wrong on that ruling? I have to rewatch the video. I am not trying to complain but this stuff is starting to remind of Yugioh. Way too many effects going off at once (with no chaining which makes it worse because it's more confusing), then player priority, and so and so
@@MrJsStrategyPlays maybe you missunderstood the order too(?). But u can play smth, then enter the attack part, before attack hits the drsgon mode would pop cuz the effect finished since it allows u to attack, is no an "effect" attack.
i’m not using any megakabuteri aces at all in my list, i’m using 4 rhinokabuteri and 4 metallife. rhino letting you go to tyrant for 3 is so good. if you still like the DP/Ace factor you could still run two, maybe try replacing some with the cherry/argo like you said. gran ace isn’t as bad in this matchup IMO because you can save it to pop the new davis/ken, they can rarely play a new dual tamer and DNA into a new stack in the same turn. they’d have to go into a lvl6 on the crackback turn in the same turn, or use option removal to out your gran ace. i also think gran ace being played for free by tyrant and going into a second tyrant for only 2 memory is too good that it outweighs the risk of overflow
I'm going to try out no MegaKabu in the deck and maybe just max out on the Izzys. GranKu can be a liability, in this matchup it can easily be stripped if they have one dual tamer that stays on field. That being said, I guess GrandKuwaga is high risk, high reward lol
You make tyrant look confusing bro, i dunno im played it since its released on jp and its so eazy and player using tyrant always top 3 at my local there's 3 player including me like a whole 2 month
Boyyy I just picked up the deck last week, how are you gonna compare if you've been playing since it's release in JP lmao. Congrats though, any tips are welcome
Dont be afraid, in this match i recomend you call grand kuwaga ace to delete the kai and davis then proceed to hit the impe with tyrant then activate the rest ability from tyrant to bottom any othe body left on the field, or you can call metalife to pump tyrant and rest one body if any and proceed to hit, this deck is usually use stalling strat, if i can send you a pict of my deck list ill be happy to send one
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Grankuwagomon ace has to suspend the digimon to keep it from unsuspending….at around 8:10 the DM should have unsuspended.
“Cards this effect suspended can't unsuspend during your opponent's next unsuspend phase.”
DM was already suspended.
I must’ve missed that, I didn’t know it had to be suspended by that effect in order to stay suspended
The grandkuwaga ace is really good because you can play it out for free off tyrant, suspend and stun 2 bodies, bottom deck a body and then pop a suspended tamer and the egg lets you swing at something by end of turn. You control an entire board with that combo
You can, but then GranKu gets blasted by anything since it has no protection... idk still have to test the deck more, but having LV5 AND LV6 Aces is too much. One's got to go
@@MrJsStrategyPlayshave you considered blasting on top of your ace?😂
@@MrJsStrategyPlays Most green decks have zero protection. Hard play your Granku's if you need to but its a last resort. Use Metlife to stun bodies and digivolve over that with Granku to get bodies tamers off the board, then use end of turn tyrant to bottom deck a digimon, you'll have either wiped their board or wiped and stunned their only usable body. If they have something in the back you'll have at least two redirects most of the time and possibly 3 depending on which level five you have.
I'm only running 3 metlifes because I only have 3 metlifes. I need to dig up a 4th. If you hate all the aces consider starter deck megakabu for security trashing when it destroys a digimon. Really helps the deck with taking chunks of your opponent when things aren't going your way and you just need to chip their board away.
@@schpoopl loooool
How was his Paildramon stripping away the megakabuterimon ace from under your suspended Tyrant? Shouldn't he be immune to all digimon effects? Or does source stripping somehow circumvent that protection?
The stripping effect came from the Davis & Ken Double Tamer and Tyrant is only unaffected by Digimon effects
@@kido6076 ohhhh that makes sense. I wasn't aware of that Davis/Ken effect. Thanks!
2:28 you cannot unsuspend here, because of the DNA paildramon bt16 it is a blanket effect so nothing on your board can unsuspend. Imperial could have kept his pail alive. Unless im silly and tyrant can be unaffected by Digi effects this early.
Tyrant says while this digimon is suspended, it is unaffected by the effects of your opponent's Digimon. Tyrant was suspended when he digivolved into Paildra. Am I missing something?
@@MrJsStrategyPlays No your correct he can unsuspend. He isn't effected by it even if it's a global effect.once he unsuspend then he is.then when he suspends again he'll be unaffected.
It was the bt16 kabuterimon. He says when this Digimon is suspended it isn't effected by the effects of your opponents Digimon.
No yeah mb, I didn’t remember if the line had that protection that early into the line or not, that’s on me!
@MrJsStrategyPlays yeah, it wasn't a tyrant.
whats ur decklist then if u dont run grankuwaga ace that often? thanks a lot :)
Right now it's 4 Hercules, 4 Tyrant... that's what I'm testing. Might be wrong though lol
@@MrJsStrategyPlays i can see the problem yes, i cut my kuwaga down to 2 and added the stingmon that evolves for 1. Just trying to build stacks for less and choke the opponent early on so my overflow doesnt hurt as badly since they are further behind at that point.
I found for myself that i need to find the kuwaga more often because at the end it comes out for free from tyrant and loses me the same memory as a hercules would in the same play
Like Faqo said you can't swing them play something unless you used rhinokabuteris when attacking effect.
But also nothing in that imperial deck is protected from battle deletion unless they play or evo bt16 exvee which they didn't.
Edit: im dumb, option gave protection from battle.
I'm pretty sure he used the option card to digivolve into Paildramon at 5:07. So the whole stack had battle immunity until the end of my turn
@@MrJsStrategyPlays yea that giveprotect to battle
@@MrJsStrategyPlays ah, i only remembered it gave blocker
Heya. Given your commentary, I thought I should give some of my perspectives having been planning this deck for a while.
First of all, and I tell this to everyone, replacing Hercules for Shivamon feels TERRIBLE. It is really nice to see consistency in getting a boss monster to exert control, better than a brick that will only show up in 4 niche matchups. Not sure you would want to remove Grankuwagamon ACE for it with some of the strong tamers, namely imperial, going around.
In regards to the ACEs, I have personally commited on a 2/2 ratio between both. Neither of them are go to level 6s, and I include them mainly to deal with specific situations. MegaKabuterimon has been especially useful in the imperial matchup, when I do not have access to metallife or Izzy, which is somewhat common.
RhinoKabuterimon is an inclusion you should consider. Swinging at End of Turn with Rhino to evolve into Tyrant for 3 is crazy nice. Generally evolving for a much more reduced cost is something the deck appreciates.
Something I would also like to point out is I have found BT3 Terriermon as a floodgate to be generally more useful than pomu, as the memory gain applies to a bigger spread of matchups. Something to also consider is the use of ST17 Lopmon, that helps make your killing turns a little more secure. For a slow deck as Tyrant is, it really is some big help.
Hope I could help!
Thanks for your tips. I haven't tried Rhino out, I've seen ppl play Cherry and Argo which I think I might gravitate toward. I'll have to test out Shiva too in that case, as for the Aces, I just find Tyrant way too slow and the overflow is such a detriment. But I would say I'm leaning toward MegaKabu being more necessary than GranKu as wild as that is to say
I've been trying to figure out why people are playing the memory blocker rookies but I don't see it besides mirage? Or I guess numemon
@@MrJsStrategyPlays I agree, depending on your meta, GranKuwagamon might not push too much weight. Sometimes I see myself putting it to 3 just to have a reliable hard play to bottom deck 12k, but I am still undecided in that regard.
As for the memory blockers, there are a couple instances. Vs Imperial, you stop them keeping turn after DNA, which I found is a little more consistently useful given that should that deck get rookies while you can not clear them, they generate all resources they want afterwards. You can make it harder for Looga to keep turn after going Fenrir. A lot of decks are teching memory boosts not only for the imperial matchup, but because they like it more over trainings, mainly Magna X, which makes it all the more valuable. Against Promo Ukko, which quite a few decks are running, you stop some memory gain. Vs Yellow Vaccine, it is a nice way to stop some memory gain from Patamon / Gatomon.
As most floodgates, they are situationally dependant, but I have found them way more useful vs decks like Nume or Imperial than Pomumon would be.
Minute 5:43 . That jogress is invalid. First of all you must put on top blue part, not green
Yeah.. I did mention it lol vs Tyrant it doesn’t matter cause I don’t have dedigivolve, but you are right
You can activate the End of turn in any order BUT you can not activate when digi after the end of turn effects, the end of turn go AFTER all efects of digimons played or evolved resolve, in this case if you evolve in tyrant and play a digimon, bt16 dragon activate evo in Ace fighter and can bottomdeck your digi before you can go to end of turn
So then was DonkeyKnogg wrong on that ruling? I have to rewatch the video. I am not trying to complain but this stuff is starting to remind of Yugioh. Way too many effects going off at once (with no chaining which makes it worse because it's more confusing), then player priority, and so and so
@@MrJsStrategyPlays maybe you missunderstood the order too(?). But u can play smth, then enter the attack part, before attack hits the drsgon mode would pop cuz the effect finished since it allows u to attack, is no an "effect" attack.
@@MrJsStrategyPlays what donkey say is you can use bouth end of turn effect in the tyrant and the egg no the when digi
so when digi effects fizzle and do nothing if you do evo effects after end of turn effects?
@@crimson35124 tecnically you cant use when digi efects after end of turn because if the when digi efects not resolve, your turn not end
i’m not using any megakabuteri aces at all in my list, i’m using 4 rhinokabuteri and 4 metallife. rhino letting you go to tyrant for 3 is so good. if you still like the DP/Ace factor you could still run two, maybe try replacing some with the cherry/argo like you said. gran ace isn’t as bad in this matchup IMO because you can save it to pop the new davis/ken, they can rarely play a new dual tamer and DNA into a new stack in the same turn. they’d have to go into a lvl6 on the crackback turn in the same turn, or use option removal to out your gran ace. i also think gran ace being played for free by tyrant and going into a second tyrant for only 2 memory is too good that it outweighs the risk of overflow
I'm going to try out no MegaKabu in the deck and maybe just max out on the Izzys. GranKu can be a liability, in this matchup it can easily be stripped if they have one dual tamer that stays on field. That being said, I guess GrandKuwaga is high risk, high reward lol
Stingmon is also one of my favorite Digimon ❤
Right! I still remember that first episode when he appeared and saved Cody and Armadillomon I believe. He was so cool looking
Honestly love watching this matchup so much because bt16 imperialdramon players deserve to get completely locked down
Yeahhhh. Maybe if he had the DP buffs it would’ve been more in his favor tbh
Its an actual crime that the imperial player is using minerva sleeves for the deck....
You make tyrant look confusing bro, i dunno im played it since its released on jp and its so eazy and player using tyrant always top 3 at my local there's 3 player including me like a whole 2 month
Boyyy I just picked up the deck last week, how are you gonna compare if you've been playing since it's release in JP lmao. Congrats though, any tips are welcome
Dont be afraid, in this match i recomend you call grand kuwaga ace to delete the kai and davis then proceed to hit the impe with tyrant then activate the rest ability from tyrant to bottom any othe body left on the field, or you can call metalife to pump tyrant and rest one body if any and proceed to hit, this deck is usually use stalling strat, if i can send you a pict of my deck list ill be happy to send one
You drew twice when you deciced to take back your tyrant
Didn't catch this till you mentioned it
i only play 2 megakabu ace and 2 grankuwaga ace
I've been trying different ratios, and yeah I am trying to test the deck with no aces
@@MrJsStrategyPlays Im trying with just 2 megakabu this week and no granku ace
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