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  • IN A SHEFFIELD IF YOU LIVE IN A POORER PART OF THE CITY YOUR LIFE EXPECTANCY IS AT LEAST FIVE YEARS LOWER THAN IF YOU LIVE IN THE RICHER SUBURBS. YOU ARE TWICE AS LIKELY TO HAVE A FATAL HEART ATTACK AND THREE TIMES MORE AT RISK OF DYING FROM LUNG CANCER. YOUR BABIES ARE MORE PRONE TO DIE IN INFANCY; YOUR CHILDREN TO REQUIRE ADMISSION TO HOSPITAL. THESE STATISTICS - WHICH STARTLES AND DISMAY THE CITY HEALTH AUTHORITY - HAVE BEEN PRODUCED BY THE SIMPLE BUT PIONEERING USE OF POWERFUL COMPUTER WHICH CAN BE USED TO RECORD PATTERNS OF SICKNESS AND DEATH ACROSS SHEFFIELD. THE COMPUTER IS ABLE TO PRODUCE PRECISE STATISTICS FOR EVERY WARD, EVERY HOUSING ESTATE, EVEN FOR EVERY STREET IN THE CITY.
    Jonathan Dimbleby investigates.
    First shown: 19/02/1987
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    Quote: VT37827
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  • @mickeydodds1
    @mickeydodds1 3 года назад +21

    From the days when ITV actually made serious programming.

  • @jasonayres
    @jasonayres 3 года назад +15

    "Sheffield Steel" was once an International sign of quality.
    A conversation piece amongst relatives at dinner parties.
    This is a sombre story.
    I think today, of all the talk about renewable energy, which is wonderful, but all the people who will be losing careers and community, as Government transitions.. without them.

    • @fattypark
      @fattypark 3 года назад +2

      Plenty of reasons for optimism in the city- Boeing, McLaren, Rolls Royce, a newish company ITM Power who make Hydrogen electrolysers, other advanced manufacturing, the universities plus the likes of Forgemasters. There will always be opportunities, and change will always happen. The trick is to capitalise on it.

    • @jasonayres
      @jasonayres 3 года назад +1

      @@fattypark Good point 👍

    • @davestevenson9080
      @davestevenson9080 Год назад

      @@fattypark the city is full of foreigners pal its over lol. my gf won't go to the city without me because of harassment from africans

    • @rodlaughton2318
      @rodlaughton2318 7 месяцев назад

      @@fattypark … a lot of those are in Rotherham though…

  • @ainsleystones4600
    @ainsleystones4600 Год назад +4

    Regretfully, the discrepancy in life expectancy is still huge here in Sheffield. One well-know bus route (which traverses the city) has folks at one end who can expect to live 20 years longer than folks at the other I believe.

  • @xrmoff
    @xrmoff 3 года назад +7

    interesting but lessons are only learned if we follow up on these people - for example, I wonder if 12:54 is still alive? or any number of the rest of them

  • @richardtheeighth4431
    @richardtheeighth4431 3 года назад +9

    There's never been truer words spoken about the high mortality rates caused by lifestyle diseases for those 40, 50 & 60 years of age "these are not statistics, they are real people."
    During the 80s the residents of the poorer areas of Sheffield suffering preventable diseases were disproportionately high. Whilst living conditions have improved and life expectancy has increased, the struggle continues into the twenty-first century with an overrepresentation of a population with an unequal distribution of wealth.

    • @perolagrande
      @perolagrande 3 года назад +2

      There's plenty they can do about the uneven distribution of wealth, such as undertaking training or searching for a better paying job. But, no that's too much like effort and work involved, easier to blame everyone else for their self-inflicted problems.

    • @MrDanielfff777
      @MrDanielfff777 3 года назад

      @@perolagrande you are speaking the truth

    • @HelloKittykat21
      @HelloKittykat21 Год назад +2

      @@perolagrande Problem is that many of the community centres that used to host such training has closed. The council has allowed charities do it its job. When was the last time the nurses were in schools other than on a vaccination programme? Dentists going in checking on the large number of children who suffer dental decay due to a lack of appointments? Years ago the LEA used to purchase brand new school clothing for needy children - I wonder how many will go without proper clothing this winter so their parents can warm the house for them in order to minimise chest complaints that come with cold, damp living conditions. I could weep at what has happened in this city. Rubbish all over the streets, homelessness out of control. High Rise living making a come back which eventually usually ends in crime ridden ghettos.

  • @pmacc3557
    @pmacc3557 3 года назад +1

    Wow. Love old English tv. In Ireland when you got "the channels" u were doin good

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dimbelby was a good sport - He happily agreed to appear on the satirical sketch show WHO DARES WINS where Rory McGrath took the piss out of him in a mock interview,

  • @Mr.SLovesTheSacredHeartofJesus
    @Mr.SLovesTheSacredHeartofJesus 3 года назад +4

    Sorry, no empathy for anyone smoking 50 cigs a day! That was outrageous even at that time. Much of the dangers of smoking were well-known as well by the early 1970's. As the old saying goes. "You can lead a horse to water, but, you can't make him drink" You can't help those who won't help themselves. So, just blame Mrs. Thatcher forever thing.

    • @misterrocks3035
      @misterrocks3035 2 года назад +3

      The lady even acknowledges that smoking was having adverse effects on her health.

  • @MrMarcy76
    @MrMarcy76 2 года назад +2

    Early 1987, just after one of the coldest snowiest Januaries of the 20th Century, and everything looks pretty bleak. Not sure if its the colder weather, and the poorer summers during this period in the UK, that makes everything seem more depressing looking between 1979-1987. The unemployment is a big issue during this period, but I think there's more to it than that, as most people are smoking, and people in general look much older, between 20-40(look more like 50 year olds, lack of exercise, poor diet, and the people in general look ugly and unattractive.
    Its not an attack on people from that era, but nobody looks fit at all. The colder weather obviously puts people off outdoor exercises, but smoking constantly and giving up is just being defeatist.

    • @BorisBoris-sl1sf
      @BorisBoris-sl1sf 4 месяца назад

      You're absolutely right, but people who were young at the time tend to idolize the past, and swear that everything was so much better, people were happier and every child was above average.

    • @MrMarcy76
      @MrMarcy76 4 месяца назад

      @@BorisBoris-sl1sf I think it depends on the individual.

  • @jonathanleblanc2140
    @jonathanleblanc2140 3 года назад +2

    "People aren't unemployed; there's no such place as Sheffield."

  • @Rob_Walker.
    @Rob_Walker. 3 года назад +7

    50 a day cigs RIP

    • @MrDanielfff777
      @MrDanielfff777 3 года назад +1

      Trust me! She most likely didn't make it into the 21st century

  • @smo4082
    @smo4082 7 месяцев назад

    Wonder who that woman was who passed.

  • @smo4082
    @smo4082 7 месяцев назад

    14:13, David Player, died in 2020 aged 93.

  • @bottletree33
    @bottletree33 2 года назад +3

    Nar den dee shut thee gob an gerart and gerra job.

  • @alphabet_soup123
    @alphabet_soup123 3 года назад +1

    Gee... no one could afford to smoke 50 a day and live on welfare benefits where I live (Australia, 2021). A pack of 25 costs you $48.5 here. So two of those a day... is $89! Welfare is only $300 a week (or $450 if you're on the disability). Gee whiz. What bothers me is nicotine patches and lozenges are just as expensive.

    • @MattPearman-qr4sq
      @MattPearman-qr4sq 10 месяцев назад

      300 a week on the dole in Australia we only get that a month here in the UK lol

  • @Pitmirk_
    @Pitmirk_ 3 года назад +1

    Drift hypothesis... the unhealthy gravitate to the poor areas, but still... good documentary.

    • @MrDanielfff777
      @MrDanielfff777 3 года назад +1

      Explain

    • @Pitmirk_
      @Pitmirk_ 3 года назад

      @@MrDanielfff777 at least three ways, which i can't do justice to here.. Heritability- unhealthy ppl are stuck in and drift to unhealthy places or spiral of deprivation occurs, 'life history' - unhealthy lifestyle can be triggered as a response to environmental stress. (no fault, just needs understanding to get the interventions right.. 20th C social activists hated any mention of human susceptibility rather than just environment, but even leftists are now on it.. Paige Harden etc). And movement of the rest- basically, measuring deaths according to place of birth versus place of death can unpick some of the assumptions about what's happening. That last one was what we were studying in 1989/90 shortly after this film...

  • @daflondon
    @daflondon 3 года назад +7

    Get ready, the Great Reset will make this look like paradise

    • @EgoShredder
      @EgoShredder 3 года назад

      ✡️ J Crime Syndicate ✡️

  • @MrDanielfff777
    @MrDanielfff777 3 года назад

    Sheffield is about to play Crystal Palace 🔮

  • @buddha1736
    @buddha1736 3 года назад +13

    The Conservatives massacred the north.

    • @michaelsalt4565
      @michaelsalt4565 3 года назад +10

      You will find it was politically motivated militant trade unions that destroyed the north.

    • @farrington4918
      @farrington4918 3 года назад +9

      Why are you blaming the torys? Blame Labours actions in the 60s and 70s which put Britain in such a state of disaster Maggie had to start the process of saving Britain

    • @jonathanleblanc2140
      @jonathanleblanc2140 3 года назад +7

      The exact opposite is the truth; municipal socialism, the trade unions, and Labour councils left the North moribund.

    • @gord307
      @gord307 3 года назад +3

      @@farrington4918 From 1979 - 1984 unemployment more than doubled to well over 3-million. When this film was made unemployment had just passed its peak. Since the second world war, unemployment has not been so high as it was when the tories were in power through the 80s. Industrial action also peaked during Maggie's time in office, by quite a margin. By the time the mad woman was finally ditched in the 90s, manufacturing in the UK had been decimated, and it has yet to recover to pre-1980s levels.
      I would not argue that Labour had managed the economy well through the 70s, but Maggie destroyed it.

    • @sim6699
      @sim6699 3 года назад +1

      Admittedly Tory started the rot, refocusing economy to services and financial powerhouse, which Labour continued along the same path.