A Medium Heavy Rod is not Always the Best All Around Rod for Bass Fishing
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- No! A Medium Heavy Rod is not the only fishing rod that you need for bass fishing. Here is why.
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Just bought a 7' medium power moderate action Abu Garcia Ike Signature casting rod. It's made of high strained glass instead of graphite (although you can get a graphite version. It comes in several different versions for different situations). Perfect crank bait rod (to me). Parabolic bend. Has a killer finish on it too. Only set me back $130. Worth looking in to imo.
Have one myself. Love it
The medium rod is criminally underrated. They have enough flex for action and enough strength that they can set a big hook. I personally love medium rods. I really like the ugly stik GX2 casting rod the best. It’s a stiffer medium rod but still has plenty of flex to cast lighter baits and still be able to use jerkbaits effectively and also even a Ned rig if you have enough skill.
lots of guys talking about this but they can't teach it the way you just did. thank you!
Glad someone brought up this topic. It seems most want to tell you medium-heavy or heavy for any and everything
There has never been a fisherman alive who took his first rod, loved fishing, and said to himself, "I don't need any more rods."
So, I think the real question should be "What is the best FIRST rod?" I would love to see a video where you talk about the rods you have bought your kids to bring them up on.
Here's how I plan to introduce my kids (currently 3 & 5)
1) Barbie/Spiderman/Frozen spincaster around 3 feet long. At this age it is all about having fun, not about catching big fish
2) 5'6" Light Ugly Stik with a cheap spinning reel and 10 pound braid. Super easy to learn to cast with & can throw all kinds of small lures sufficiently. My first lures were Worden's Rooster Tails and these rods will work fine for those. I already have 2 of these rods because I learned on them and they are built like a tank.
Once they get to this point, I will slowly teach them to use one each of my rods, including baitcasters, and introduce them to the concept of using the right rod for each lure. Then I will let them choose what their next rod will be based on which of mine they most enjoy using. They will probably end up Jimi-casting just like I do unless they go fishing with friends who fish baitcasters traditionally.
If you are an adult who is new to fishing, I say find a buddy who has a nice arsenal and go fishing with him so you can try some different things. You'll quickly figure out what you want to buy first (and your buddy will not hesitate to give you his opinion)
Then go make a video on it...
You should of been in the video with this....
I remember getting my first Zebco 33 when I was a kid. Didn’t realize then, but that was the start of me becoming a lifelong fishermen.
@@reeltalkfishing7692 thats funny. Zebco 33 was my first as well. I feel like it's almost impossible to find a fisherman that didn't ever throw a zebco 33. For most it is the first rod and reel they will use.
My favorite "all around" rod is a medium spinning rod. It can't do everything, not even close to it, but it's super versatile. It's easy to throw light swim baits, light jigs, lipless cranks, small spooks and poppers, drops shots, mojo rigs, and it's my favorite for weightless rigs.
Thank you so much. My first baitcast rod is a medium heavy fact action and helped me pick out my second baitcasting rod!
Great info once again Gene, and I've fished over 60 yrs now, and Man has equipment and specialties gone Hawg wild, I just retired in Raleigh,and have much more time to fish, and you just saved me some money,because I have everything but a boat as far as rods and reels, Thanks, Will
Ive got a 7'4" med-hvy glass rod and i can chunk a crappie jig 30yds so there are some exceptions but still major respect man and great vid
Colby Brogdon my only question is: why were you ever throwing crappie hogs on medium heavy rods?
Gene this is just my two sense but the bait I fish the most is a weightless super fluke. I throw it on a 6-1/2 or a 7 ft MH with a 6.3:1 real and 15-20 lb monofilament. I can throw that fluke as far or farther than most people can throw most other lures such as a Texas rig or spinnerbait or even a 1/2 ounce lipless crankbait so as far as a fluke goes in my experience the MH rod is the way to go. Also I catch a lot of big fish on these flukes and when I set the hook I am driving it home and if I were to be using a medium spinning set up I would 1. Break the line on the hook set. (If that didn't happen then) 2. Not be able to drive a thick 5/0 hook into the fish good enough to be able to land the fish 3. Not be able to handle the fish if it was of any size (over 3-3.5 lbs). This is my two sense as far as flukes go. I know they call you the fluke master but I would just like to say that you may have a little competition on flukes if u look my way. Great vids man I enjoy watching them all
I actually just purchased my first ever St.Croix Medium fast and I can definitely tell that the feel is much more medium/moderate lord of good bend I can’t wait to see how it does when there’s an actual fight with a fish. I was struggling because there’s not many actual medium or moderate action rods near me and I love throwing a moving bait like cranks and I was worried that the medium fast would still fall short but after getting one and hearing you confirm that it does the job and does it well was more convincing for me thank you!
My all around best rod is a medium-fast. The Lews carbon fire in a medium fast will rock crank baits to spinner baits.
7 ft Medium Heavy Ugly Stick baitcaster GX2. Quantum Smoke S3 PT 7:3:1 reel. 20 pound braided line in low vis green. This man is the average Joe's bass fisherman's teacher. No Bullshit! Just straight talk on bass fishing. Great lead in on the video too. Keep on telling tbe truth on bass fishing. You can never go wrong telling the truth! Shawn
Hands down the best fishing channel I've seen on RUclips I'm not a beginner and I still enjoy watching these videos
Last week, I just purchased a rod/reel combo dedicated to "cranking" - sqaurebills, crank baits, jerk baits, spinner baits and chatter baits
I bought a G. Loomis E6X 845C CBR 7' M/H with mod/fast action rod with a Shimano Citica 200 6.4:1 bait caster with 15lb Seguar Fluorocarbon line
Rod combo #2 is a 7' M/H Fast action Shimano Clarus with a Shimano Curado 50E (6.3:1 gear ratio) with 30 lb braid for top water
Rod combo #3 is a 7' M/H Fast action Shimano Clarus with a Shimano Chronarch CI4+ (7.6:1 gear ratio) with 30 lb braid for jigs and texas rig
Rod combos #4-#6 (finesse fishing) are 7' Medium or Medium Lite ALL Fast action with Shimano Sahara 3500 to 2500 reels; wither fluoro or braid
glad i found this. All i have is a medium heavy. But I am mostly inshore saltwater anyways. But I have basically settled on getting a medium-medium for my next, because I want to have a rod that I can catch brim and crappie on, and also redfish and speckled trout
I'm a bank fisherman and I always carry 2 rods. A medium fast action spinning rod and a medium to medium/heavy depending on what lures I plan to use.
I have one medium mod-fast action for crank baits and smaller, moving baits. I use heavy fast-action for soft plastics, frogs and larger moving baits.
I run 7ft mf, 6ft med. moderate in my casting. And a 6'6 ultra light and 7ft med fast spinning. Also a ice fishing rod in case I see a carp I'll throw a crawler at. Honestly I tend to throw 7ft medium fast the most with a texes rig for large mouth and 6'6 spinner for smallies with a 3in tube or a craw. It comes down to personal preference and leaning. I'm always leaning and trying somthing new I guarantee I'll have different set up to add next year. Love your videos
I always carry a medium, a medium heavy, and a light or ultra light (for the little sunfish when I'm not getting any bigger bites) ! I also carry both spinning and baitcasting reels.
As always - thanks for the insight. Hoping to get my 3rd rod at Christmas. Going for the medium baitcaster now.
It's funny how similar of a video we both put out today. Good vid Gene!
I was just thinking that! Thought u guys may of planned it haha!
+LadyBass lol, nope
Just watched your video then seen this one and thought the same thing ha.
By the way Gene, as always. Go Dawgs!
+Josh Wilson . The only Dawgs in town are Bulldawgs for big pike. But when we need some fish baits for winter piking those bass come in handy so all these tips are great for those looking for live or deadbaits for your winter pike sesions.
Great tips, I use a medium action all the time.
Honestly, even if Person X knew nothing about bass fishing; those three rods would cover enough bases until X started to figure it out. Good video Gene. Tight lines.
Thanks for the video Gene! I get so confused on rods, line type, what to use and when to use....
really good info on this video. older anglers and beginners can learn from this.
Light baits/smaller lures and small bass / pan fish / perch , really suit a very light / ultra light for some casual sport fishing is ideal.
You can even use a spin - cast reel out in the open waters. Like a Zebco 33 Classic or a light Daiwa spinning reel set up is OK loading up some nice , light line test .
We call that Finesse - Style fishing.
But, yet Bigger Bass and Lunker Trout hiding away in cover such thick weed beds and heavy structure like log jams - you want a med / heavy outfit set up ideally with a proper Baitcaster Reel - like an ABU Garcia brand for example - 'cause they will pull real hard to get to deep right into the snags and cover and then dive UNDER the boat, when they see finally it.
They are the best reels for Trolling and casting the heavy spinnerbaits, IMO. You can also catch a lot of bass by just trolling around deep diving style crank - baits real slow around any big structure, like a decent rock, any dead tree stumps and so on.
That, is when you need to put on the proper thumb - pressure and that is almost impossible with a real light spinning outfit. They somehow just get off from the lack of control from the angler. We call that approach : Lure - Casting.
Ideally, take two outfits - one, just Ultra Light, and One Medium to Heavy.
Bass fishing techniques and tips from Down Under !
I belive this ultimately comes down to the angler's preference. I can bomb a dt-6 on a Dobyns 735 no problem. I rarely lose fish either.
I agree completely. I work at Bass Pro and just about everyone in my department will say the same exact thing. They all say a 7' MH is the best/most universal/only rod you'll ever need. I tell people exactly what you said, a M-ML spinning rod, M casting, and MH casting. It's the only 3 rods you really ever need. Great video Gene.
You seriously need to explain this to some of your co workers and some of the assholes commenting here and dissing this awesome flukemaster dude.
This makes great sence Gene, A couple days ago i was using a buzz bomber on my st criox heavy rod, with my max pro 5 abu garcia reel, and i could only cast about 20 feet, every cast...... BACKLASH, i was pissed, thanks for the good info and tight lines.
Just picked up the concept c as my first baitcaster ever and it sure is nice... Also got a 7' duckett medium heavy rod...
This is the most helpful video on RUclips. Thanks gene
I appreciate your videos and sharing all the knowledge you have. You rock dude.
Thanks man
Thank you for this video!!! I usually throw 1/4 oz baits and I have a medium/heavy fast action rod and I cannot cast worth a damn with that thing. Literally everybody says I need the medium/heavy, but it simply doesn't work for what I'm trying to use it for and i get pissed off with the lack of distance and backlash i get. This answers all my questions, so thank you!
Med mod fast. You can load it so much better. A toss cast as far as a whip.
Go spinning or BFS
it's how u fish your bait.u don't need one for every damn bait.i catch all the time ,with medium heavy rod. with all baits
rarely miss fish.
It's more of fine tuning performance. It's not a make it or break it thing. You can get everything done with about 5 rods, but sometimes things add up.
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I've fished with this exact equipment for years. I have a 7 foot medium fast baitcaster, a 7ft 3 medium heavy fast baitcaster and a medium fast spinning rod. I have almost every base covered except heavy flipping and punching but I don't do a lot of that
Not arguing, but I threw a weightless worm and an 1/8 oz worm on a shakey head today on a Medium Heavy Fast Action rod with no issues. Seems to work well for me.
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This is what I have been after. It is good looking and durable.
Great video on rod type and action. Great video!!
I bought a medium heavy casting rod to use for chatterbaits and crankbaits. Works ok but I should've gotten a medium.
Wow that is interesting I use a 7 foot medium heavy fast action bait caster I can’t really afford to get a crank bait rod right now even though I know I need and want one but my 7 foot medium heavy fast action rod gets me through almost any thing
I can catch bass all day with a 1980's set up. Modern Med-hvy rods are fine. You guys overthink.
RSLewis I still use a pistol grip rod from way back and sometimes use a round bait casting reel but The gear ratio is 5.4:1 my newer reels top out 8.1
Right, I literally throw a 7ft med hey for everything and do just fine. I throw multiple different applications aswell and have no trouble with Gills, bass, or walleye.
He made it clear that any tod can catch a fish, but there are better options. And that is true. For example you don't want a stiff rod for fishing a ned rig or drop shot with a tiny thin hook that can easily bend, and don't want a lighter rod when you're jigging in heavy cover. You want a stiff rod to muscle them out before they hang you up.
@@blay7263 that's incorrect. Not just any "tod"?... can catch a fish. Stop assuming it's easy to do.
Dude I am learning so much more from you I got going on one year fishing I do Inshore fishing more but its knowledge I use I have more medium heavy rod had medium but I broke em so imma get medium for my rapala and yu zuri I use 20 lb braid ....imma make a 10 braid set up abu Garcia combo set up 5.4.1 gear ratio / medium action the Abu Garcia Revo X low profile casting. I tried mono and flouro line I cant stop them dam nest.
Happened on your site a couple of hours ago and really enjoying it.
Thanks,
Frank
A medium rod is the best all around for me i got a gx2 that has caught musky bass catfish u name it on it
nice video opened my eyes on using certain rods for spinnerbaits
This video makes me want to throw my fishing gear in the lake, why make it so damn complicated
Oscar facts
You can throw them at my place instead..
what gear, your one 45$ ugly stick set up?
Because in reality it is that complicated. Hes explaining a already complex reality.
Ahahahah, this is just the tip of the iceberg buddy
I can see why using a medium power rod is good for cranking and open hook baits, but I absolutely love my medium heavy quantum cranking rod with a lews laser mg 5.4:1
I always learn a lot from your videos. Thank you. This was helpful for me. I can't afford a lot of fishing gear
Most used rod in bass fishing? Medium heavy fast action.
I know it's kind of randomly asking but do anyone know of a good place to stream new movies online?
very help full, that's why I enjoy your channel
Thanks Stephen
I might get some crap for this but up until this past year of always used spinning gear for everything from swim baits to punching
Same here, I just never had the money to invest in more rods/reels. This year I'm investing into more bait casting set ups though.
+Jordan look at Abu Garcia nice inexpensive setup I bought the silver max 2 and absolutely love it
+Upstate Angler I plan on getting the Black Max but I see that Berkley has some good looking cherrywood rods that have good reviews and are extremely inexpensive that I might try out.
+Jordan If you do tell me because I was looking at them but the price seemed to good to be true
+Upstate Angler Will do
I only have one setup and its medium heavy fast action and I do fine with it same thing with my friends
Nice video wish I knew this info before I went shopping for my rods and reel combo would have gotten the best combo for my style of fishing.
I use a medium for medium divers and soft plastics and a medium heavy for deep divers and jigs
this intro is way better than the last one!
My favorite rod is a medium/fast and my second is a medhvy modfast.
A medium heavy spinning rod may be under utilized too. With a 4000 sized reel and the versatility with 30 pound braid and a wide range of leaders, my 7'6' MH moderate spinning rod is often a better tool than the same rod in bait casting( which I do have and like a lot).
Fair play
appreciate your videos thanks
Congrats on explaining that were it makes sense. I keep a 7ft med and a 7ft med/hvy. I want to get one heavy rod for jigs. should I go with a 7.3 or a 7.6?
What do you use for catfish, musky, or salmom ?
My daughter catches 1-5 lbers out of our pond on a zebco 33 combo 8lb test line all day long. No sense in high dollar rod and reels but I have a bunch anyways. lol.
true to the bone..and cost is minimal..it comes down to how you put the the worm on the hook..do it right, and they bite longer and the kids get a few caught..or smaller hooks..that helps too..i do like medium rods also..especially for finesse and feeling the small bites..but- med light sucks..unless you target bluegill/crappies...not as ready if you do nail a decent fish..zebco 33 works...gene just telling what is needed for different styles or techniques..fighting through brush does not work on the zebco setup...etc..
I just picked up a st croix BassX MH 7'2 moderate action rod and the tip feels a little soft
Thanks Gene for the awesome tips keep it going
Hey gene u should do a video on setting up a baitcaster and casting lighter lures..
+poonjaber1122 Done.
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I always like to use a medium heavy fast action rod for big spinner baits and buzzbaits, or any other big single hook baits. Don't you need that stiffer rod to get the big thick hook into the fish?
Now for any treble hook baits, i like a more moderate action rod for sure.
I own a meduim power, moderate action 6'8 delay
7'2 graphite medium heavy.
7'4 spinning rod medium light graphite
And a 7'0 S glass crankbait Skeet Reese rod all Fiberglass.
Eric Smith how is the skeet Reese rod I almost grabbed one today
I have two baitcasting rods...
1. Power - Medium and Action - Medium Fast ( C.W - 7 to 28g)
2. Power - X heavy and Action - X Fast ( C.W - 7 to 36g)
What are these rods useful for???
Great video I understand better who the action works
Agree with everything you said, had a fish spit the lure on on a MH last night. Went back in with a medium and pinned it.
Could you please do a video on sight fishing from a kayak?
Quick question for you! Have you ever gone Belly Boating? My Dad and I are big into it and it's a huge thrill and calm fishing experience. If you haven't, would you ever do it? Pretty great experience.
Great video. I just bought a lew's spinnerbait rod with a Mach 2 speed spool reel which is 6' 10" and was wondering if I went to light. it is lighter and shorter than most of their offerings which are pretty stiff and pretty long at 7 to 71/2 ft. I fish from a kayak in new england and use 8-10lbs test and usually a 1/4 oz spinnerbait or a texas rig 6 inch worm with 1/4 oz bullet weight, sometimes a weightless creature bait or top water frog in the weeds The longer stiff rods seem to much for my use and I'm not catching fish more than 2.5 lbs often. What are your thoughts on my choice?
If you are on a budget and could only get one rod. A 7ft medium heavy is then best choice. Nuff said. It's the closest to an all purpose there is.
+ItsTrixtorG4M1NG If you're only willing to get one rod, get a Zebco and dig some worms. Lol
hey Gene, here is my question. i am buying a Concept C Reel. i am wanting to buy an all purpose rod 7'3 or 6 this rod will be used for all my tackle until i can buy more rods. right now i use a lot crankbait, spinners top water lipless and trying to learn how to use worms and shaky head. watching your video which one would you recommend.
+James Williams A 7'3 Medium fast rod.
Ok thank you Gene, I will purchase a no#8 rod and go fishing
As I am still in high school I found out a system using 2 rods. I use a 6' 8 medium heavy casting rod and then I have a lighter spinning rod. I haven't gotten my new rod since my last one broke. someone stepped on it...
Totally agree! Great video!
Love these videos so informative thank you.
Thanks Flukemaster, any Kayak videos coming soon?
would a Xtra heavy rod be good for throwing huddison baits and big bluegills like savage gear or other glide baits?
Can I get away with using a medium heavy moderate fast rod for cranking square bills and also other applications like light T-rigs and spinnerbaits. I'm hoping the extra flex at the tip will make it work for short diving cranks but the backbone will give me enough strength for bottom contact fishing. Not asking if it's ideal, just if it can work for now until I add more equipment to my setup.
+kappakumplete Yea that would work just fine. You may loose a little distance on the lighter cranks.
great in depth video learned a lot from this, thanks!
Good work Gene!
What's the right baitcasting rod for softbaits in saltwater.... for example I am using 4 or 5 inch paddle tail with 14 to 20 gram jig heads and Texas rigs to target mj and barramundi in estuaries
Good video Gene
thank you sir for all the info. great channel
You're welcome
Just order an Medium Ugly Stick GX2 6’6” with a 5:2:1 gear ratio and after seeing this video I am assuming this wouldn’t be the ideal setup for bass fishing. So what would be better suited for the rod I bought?
Good explanation
Totally agree
Just curious what you mean by throwing heavy baits you run the risk of breaking the rod. I have a Pfluedger Trion Medium action spinning rod and after maybe 20 trips out this year I snapped it, I doubt it was lure because I was frog fishing and landed a pig and it snapped on the retrieve.
In the middle you talk about moderate action rods and their application but at the begging and end your set of three are all fast action. I am new and trying to make sense of what rod set is best to cover my needs. Should any of the three be moderate action or is that only necessary when branching out beyond just three rod?
Great video gene
Good information
what about a 7'2 mag medium heavy moderate fast action for swim jigs and bladed jigs
Very informative. Thanks!
Wanted this video forever! Now I know what I actually need.
Have you ever fished Virginia. Like Smith Mountain Lake or others?
Great Review!
Im looking for a awesome Jig drop shot small crankbait Spinning rod For Perch and Walleye...And the brand is St Croix. St. Croix LegendXtreme - LXS76MF2 or St. Croix LegendXtreme - LXS76MLXF2...witch one would u recomend for me ? Would love getting your help here :)
I just got a medium 7’2 fast action. Should I return it for a medium heavy 7’2 ?