@@stevenp2309 eh brother that's not what he meant and idk why you're mentioning the wc because it's about how they threw Langer under the bus and did not like his training regime without him aussies would not have won that wc cause he rebuilt that squad with his fiery passion.
Led Australia at semifinals World Cup 2019 Led Australia to retain ashes 2019 Led Australia to defeat India in india 2019 both odi and T20 Led Australia to win the T20 World Cup 2021 and retaining ashes 2021. One of the best coaches for Australian cricket team and always motivates the players to win. We will certainly miss this great coach.
@beefcake502 Ashes 4-0 was a foregone conclusion, and that horrendous t20 world cup was decided entirely by the toss. Like you said this guy has no clue.
Patty seems a really decent person. Difficult and stressful situation handled by him appropriately and respectfully. Mature beyond his years and a cut above what we are used to seeing from Australian sportsmen.
I have no problem with letting JL go. There was a disconnect. But they should of handled it soooo much better. They should of just been honest with him. And done it respectfully
"We want it to go back to the way it was before JL was our coach, things were so much better then." Also, "We told you what the problem was 6 months ago and all you've done is everything we asked, it's just not good enough." PATHETIC...
This isn't what I expected from Cummins. But looking at everything we can say that players didn't like JL and that's the main reason behind these recent events. Hopefully, the change in coach doesn't affect the rhythm of this team. Whatever happened behind the scenes, JL deserved better than this for his contribution.
@@DW-rs1pr fine decision? He has made very gutsy selections that paid off and his coaching methods 'proved' to be a working formula. If it's club cricket I understand players morale is more important, but this is an international cricket team that have been dominating under Langers guidance. Some of the best teachers, fathers and coaches have proved they don't need to be your best friend to achieve greatness. They didn't just win the Ashes or 20/20 world cup, they dominated. Facts over feelings when playing at that level. When the going gets tough they shouldn't just push them out the door instead of learning how to deal with it. Short term it suits the players of course. I believe in many years to come they will look back on this and they will wonder why they didn't manage this better. The players I'm referring to. If you're at a fantastic school but don't like the teachers do you up and leave to another school. Well you shouldn't because they should be learning how to adapt and manage it themselves. We aren't talking about a Tyrant here. He is a coach of the Aussie team and was stabbed in the back by his own team mates and I think it was only a handful that have manipulated the others into thinking the same. The people surrounding JL don't have a bad word to say about him and his cricketing mind is second to none. Sorry to go on but they shouldn't be fixing something that's not broken. All in all I hope this is all forgotten and the team continues their winning ways.
Doesn't only talk like a leader but walks his talk too, Cricket Australia have nailed down a solid leader. Hoping for you to get better and better. Hats off Patty!
Great great bowler and a decent bloke with gumption..put his foot down..you back your mates I back my team mates. Guess who will be fighting tooth and nail for Pat? His team mates.
@@rogerparker4468 Exactly! Didn't disrespect anyone and also did what was best for the team, if the players don't gel with the coach it affects the performace of the team
@beefcake502 So.....Justin Langer was asked to modify his behaviour (by CA via da 'petals'). He complied.....which is beefcake's proof he had it coming? M'kay...
As an Aussie and love my cricket I think it was putrid the way CA have gone about this and in particularly Pat Cummins. Couldn't care how good this bloke is on the field the way he has gone about this is an embarrassment. He says he has respect for JL but his actions displayed no respect whatsoever. You don't need to love the bloke to have success and ultimately JL was flawless whilst in the job. Exceeded all expectations and whatever he was doing clearly worked. He would have and did support all of his players and should have received the same from the newly appointed captain. Let's not forget what JL had walked into when first taking the job. It was a mess and look at where the team is now. That's not Patty's doing. I was literally posting Patty for PM during the Ashes series but the way he has treated an absolute legend of Australian cricket is something to be ashamed of. If this interview doesn't give us all an indication of what type of bloke Patty is then I'm not sure what will. All I see is an arrogant pos who thought Langer had no bearing on the sides success and if anything was dead weight so to speak. Should never be fixing something thats not broken as the old saying goes. Patty would want to hope he doesn't make anymore embarrassing and foolish decisions in the near future because I'm sure it could come back to bite him in the ass. I truly hope the team is successful and JL moves on to bigger and better things as he definitely deserves more accolades and the Australian public know that. Let's now watch him rebuild the English side and hand it to us next Ashes. Patty will be eating his words then.
@Stuart Russell exactly and understandably if this is club cricket but at international level the only factor that should be considered is 'are they going to be successful' and Langer more than proved that he is not only a capable coach but a fantastic one at that. All coaches have a different approach to their game. When I was younger and playing rep cricket my coach was hard but ultimately he got the best out of me and in that season I learnt more than I did any other year. We were successful I might add and winning games certainly makes it all worth while. To actually see this happen at an international level and let alone with Australia is astounding. It was very evident that Langer got the best out of them. Looking at the debutants in the Ashes says it all. I'm still shocked at the decision tbh but I suppose we will see what happens in the not to distant future in whether or not it was a terrible decision
@Stuart Russell oh that's really cool. I didn't know of Herb Brooks but it sounds as though it was a similar style of coaching/mentoring. Ideally (from a players perspective) it wouldn't be what you would choose if they had an option but the proof is in the pudding and it wasn't just the results that were fantastic in recent times from the Australian cricket team, but in the manner they did it. The selecting from JL (which we know is an integral part of the job) was just brilliant. Another example would be in parents. Some fathers are tough on their kids and the kid's would favour their mother. They still love their father of course but if given an option would always tend to lean to their mother. When the child becomes an adult it's then they realise how much they appreciate their fathers way of upbringing. It shapes them into the adult they become and more than likely become successful and very likeable and also respectful. Being a coach of such a high performing team wouldn't be easy especially with the personalities in this particular side. Thankyou for educating me on the miracle on ice and its a very good comparison. I will be sure to look more into it. I really hope JL picks himself up and makes CA regret their decision to take the soft feelings of the players over a proven recipe for success.
@@BanksyOz yeah and the mess wasn't just due to sandpapergate. Almost everything was going wrong with the men's team except our bowling attack...we lost to SL, Ban and Proteas (home and away). We were unlucky in CT but played it without any intensity
@@BanksyOz yeah and the mess wasn't just due to sandpapergate. Almost everything was going wrong with the men's team except our bowling attack...we lost to SL, Ban and Proteas (home and away). We were unlucky in CT but played it without any intensity
Pat Cummins is such a composed leader and he wants to give space to his team mates so that ,they can focus on their game and this team doesnt need a technical coach cuz most players are experienced and knws that, they are doing, they just man manager and composed coach that can give players freedom and only interfere when they have to !
Do you remember what the team was when JL took over and his instructions from CA? When the players fronted him 6 months ago JL did everything they asked of him, in Cummins own words,"he has been brilliant since then." As for the players not needing technical direction, may I point your attention towards the English team...
So composed ? Look at his body language. He's hopping from foot to foot in nervousness wondering what sort of bull he's going to have to think up next in an effort to cover up his shoddy and disloyal behaviour that led to the displacement of his coach.
@@grantcox4764 Dude I remember the team that he took over ,again u take Smith and Warner out of the team it will still be the same team except Marnus development rest is the same ,with the inclusion of Smith and Warner team will always be formidable, now team needs a good man manager cuz most of the players are at their maturity level, he is a young team coach and yes can be a good coach of England team for sure !
Look at the way hes swaying around at various stages while answering questions. He is VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. And after what's happened, I'm not surprised!.
Say what you will about Pat but at the very least he stepped up. He is by a very decent margin the greatest Aussie bowler since McGrath/ Warne, and also making a decent job of leading from the front, which it seems comes naturally to him. Odd that CA didnt front up to the media instead though.
@@shiraz1736 38 tests, 185 wickets, 21.19 average, SR of 45.9, and a handy batter. Yes, these numbers might slacken but they are far superior to aforementioneds. Sure he has been blighted by injury but these numbers are astonishing and place him amongst a handful. Ozzies Dale Steyn but a better bat. Appreciate him while he's around
@@anthonyselby6436 Given Mitchell Johnson called Pat gutless in the media without having the decency to say it to his face, I would say its more than warranted to him at least.
Pat's been criticised way more than he deserves in my opinion. We'll probably never know what really happened but I think it's fair to assume that he wouldn't have been the only one wanting JL to go. Don't know who should be blamed for this but definitely will take time into a transition and not a good sign when the team just got their form back
Listening to PC in the media there, and seeing some of the video clips which were taken in dressing rooms and management areas - which should never have been taken - it’s clear that - as great a servant to Aussie cricket as JL was - he isn’t blameless in why he’s been given the flick - however badly that’s been handled. It probably isn’t a coincidence that all of the team’s recent success is after the review 6 months ago where JL ‘received feedback’. To sum it up - it looks like with his temper and intensity, he lost the dressing room.
@beefcake502 Oh, I've got several clues "champ". Going to look pretty stupid if and when this winning "run" ends. Not sure beating about the worst England team ever is that great an achievement whoever was in charge -or in a backseat role.
@beefcake502 Not really. You're assuming I'm a big fan of Langer- I'm not. I just think it's a dangerous precedent when the team picks the coach. Particularly when its largely the same players who through their actions got the last coach out. Once is careless. Twice? All because he swore at a couple of players three years ago or something. Glad you acknowledge that I'm the champ by the way.
@beefcake502 Obviously you're much closer to the Australian dressing room than me. Tell you who's available -Chris Silverwood. Everyone's best mate and utterly clueless. Sounds a perfect fit. Pakistan will be interesting... hope they prove me wrong.
@alex K Cummins starc hazlewood warner lyon smith we’re there before JL, sooooo when they dragged the team into one of Australia’s most embarrassing periods of cricket and shred our reputation on the world stage? And CA brought JL in specifically to restore the proper attitudes into the team and rebuild our brand? Which he did, in spades. And now those same players decided JL wasn’t the man for the job. Yeah righto
It makes sense. JL had one specific coaching style which was limited to certain things. For a team to remain on top, it must keep swimming like a shark and not get complacent. It’s the players that have to do the playing. The coach isn’t the lifeblood of the team, the players are
Only time can tell whether letting go of JL is the right thing to do. There are so many reputations at risk here and so much unwanted attention, and the press will lap it all up when things go pear shaped
100%. The captain is the leader. The coach is not. JL did not realise this fact about Aussie cricket. Should have spoken with Ian Chappell to understand this.
It’s obviously a very tough decision on JL but sometimes playing groups need new voices to invigorate and help teams grow, I feel sorry for Pat being thrown to the wolves here, Australian cricket officials should have been front and centre weeks ago on this matter. You don’t want a coach who the players don’t respond too, JL done an outstanding job rebuilding this team but it’s time to move on.
@@ravishingr538 pat has no issue with Langer personally it seems. It's just that Langer was an angry little guy who would make all the players uncomfortable. He wanted to put too many strange rules In place and the current players didn't like it
Wining world cup and ashes, what more do they want? What is the requirements of coach selection, do they care about performance? Circus recruitment process, what is the job description, recruit Novak Djokovic as head coach hahaha.
Embarrassing behaviour by CA. Giving 6month contract to JL who won the first ever t20 wc for aus. Pat comes out very flaky and backstabber here. Ngl aus need a humbling hopefully at Pak.
What I find confusing is the length of the contract. If they wanted him gone, just be upfront and admit they want to have a different coaching style. To offer a 6 month contract shows they're happy enough with the situation for it to continue for the next summer.
Pat Cummins, you are a brilliant player and you can be a very good captain. Never give in!!!... Ricky Ponting, Steve Waugh, Alan Border were all very resolute and they all were really really tough!!!!
“We are all professionals here, if we didn’t get the coach we want…no problem we will keep playing” For me that statement reveals a lot about what was wrong with Cricket Australia for 20 years and why Langer created effective change It is not a right to play for Australia it is an honour! Soak up the tears you current crop of Australian players because you just got rid of a winner. It’s not about your feelings…..it’s about winning!
I agree that it's an honour to play cricket for any nation you come from, but JL was not a great coach, he truly wasn't. He got by on his own reputation as a decent batsman. He never improved the current team, I'd say he hindered them more than anything else. Let's not forget all the crazy stuff he did.. no toasted sandwiches?? Random but still weird. No wrist watches? Strange again.. and all the born again Christian stuff he tried to sneak in the the Aussie cricket team ?? There's no surprise that the players didn't want him around.. the team will be fine without JL
@@joedont9307 I'm not sure I'd class "telling a member of your team to stick to their allotted lunch break" as 'crazy'. I'd be more concerned about the guy wanting to shove a sandwich in his sweaty pocket to eat later, after he's been running around and diving on the grass...
@@bobagorof thats the exact problem.. alotted lunch break? Don't tell people what they can or can't eat. Thats crazy stuff and you know it is. And why was JL telling people not to wear a wrist watch.. he became furious whenever a player had a watch on.. that's just weird and controlling. He would also want the players to pray to God at certain points. I'm happy for jl to be a born again Christian but don't ever force that stuff onto the playing team
Stepped in when the majority of this team were part of the South African debacle that flushed Australian cricket down the Dunny, which saw the suspension of 3 players , whether we actually find out the whole story who knows. Now this same group have engineered his departure.. will get their mate installed as the new coach.. happy days they are now back in charge
Some of these reporters are rubbish - "Has that weighed on you quite a bit, and been the toughest experience of your career"? What kind of stupid, leading question is that? The reporter is pushing his own opinion. And even if he got the answer he wanted (which he didn't), what has he learned? Nothing. Nowhere near approaching decent journalism, and he should be ashamed for asking it.
How to say nothing for 18 mins straight. We already knew what he said. And its understandable. Should have played out less publicly. But ig if there is indeed anything more to it, our best hope of knowing that maybe when Aaron Finch is open to questions in a few days time. He is an honest bloke (as far as one can tell) who doesn't beat around the bush with his press conferences.
I thought he handled himself brilliantly - being as helpful as possible, while also being clear about his responsibilities to his team & to CA - who are his employer.
I rlly liked cummins and still do i think hes a wonderful ambassador for the game and is a decent human being but i cant help the fact that he was smiling and so carefree as if nothing happened or to mock Jl. Idk if u guys picked this up if so comment under my comment.
Best thing about jLs tenure according to me being a Aussie cricket enthusiat players were available for most part usually before JL players were not available I think jL should have continued with a more calmer approach Love Aussies❤️ Let's hope some one worthy gets the job now
I highly respect Pat Cummins maturity and talent but is it really healthy for the captain and players to have this much power over the team? I guess that’s just a very Australian thing, to be so highly assured of one’s self.
As Pat says in the conference, cricket is unique in the sense that the captain carries a lot more responsibility than almost any other sport. You can't blame the players for voicing their opinions, it's up to CA whether they listen to them or not.
well they lost and drew multiple series before that though. lost 2 to india at home, drew to bangladesh and so as such in the last 6 months he reduced his intensity and stepped back a bit
Well said Cummins! We’re so proud of you and your leadership! JLs departure was always going to be fraught because he is tenacious and wouldn’t have realized how to exit quietly.
How can you not like this guy and respect his genuineness..? As far as I’m concerned like I’ve said before, we’re ought to be very very lucky Australia to have Pat Cummins as Australian cricket captain and in fact I reckon Pat Cummins as our Prime minister, not now though coz we need you but later on after you retire from the game..! Absolutely love this guy..!
Hard to stand there and be untruthful and insincere Eh Pat.People use an old adage about wanting someone to trust to watch your back Well I don't think Pat is that sort.He is not the amiable guy he wants you to think he is.He will get you.
We were Patty's fans from when he played for the Perth Scorches and followed his path to Captain of Australian test side!!! We are also fans of Justin Langer, thought he did a remarkable job with the team to bring them back to the top of the cricket ladder! We enjoy cricket, but honestly all the ups and downs in the last few years has been unsettling to say the least!!! We wish JL all the best in his future endeavours he has done a great job and should be very proud, but as far as the current team goes we will wait and see!!!
Tough situation for Pat Cummins as he just became captain. I respect his view and the view from the players as they have been successful. The task now is that they MUST continue winning to justify the decision.
Why don't you just say what you really mean? Clearly, JL isn't woke enough. If Smith and Warner were involved in the 'player's revolt' then their lack of self-awareness is staggering. ACB is a raging joke!
Love you Pat Cummins. You are an inspiration. If they have made you the captain it is only fair that your say is more important than what JL's friends feel about it!!
Cummins was excellent in this. Answered every question honestly and with respect. JL has upset just about every current player and multiple administrators in some way in the last few years. Oz has won the Ashes and the T20 World cup despite JL, not at all because of him.
Kidding right? He played the straight bat on nearly every question...just look at his body language and how uncomfortable he looks. He must feel really guilty and it actually shows.
@alex K Are you high as a kite mate, or just playing devil's advocate? JL has been treated as a mercenary, and Pat/other players has no right to oust him...Pat's only just taken the captaincy and look at the amount of heat on him. He's basically melting in this interview, so awkward/cringe...hard to watch
@@legsaroonie2659 I thought he handled himself very well - yes, he hopped around a bit - not easy mate - being grilled by a load of journos out for blood - for 18 minutes.... knowing that any mistake will be blown up all over the media...
Threw JL under the bus, still trying to wash his hands of it. Man up Patrick. You wanted him gone and that’s fine. Why take the public for idiots and hold a presser where you don’t actually reveal any details
Starts off with: "Well, I don't want to get into too much detail". Well then, my bad for thinking that this was supposed to be a press conference to dispel or provide clarity to the rumors floating around over the past few days. Seems like yet another carefully-orchestrated photo op. Everything is well, nothing to see or listen to here, folks!
@@speedymaster5758 woke? lmaaaao, this has nothing to do with politics. They got sick of his hands on, micromanaging approach (especially with the covid bubbles). Remember when he had a tantrum in the WI & Bangladesh tours last yr, and CA told him to cool down? I feel bad for JL since CA are a bunch of clowns and screwed him over, but he isnt a perfect coach like the ex-players say he is.
@beefcake502 So a new coach comes in and takes over the team after a cheating scandal that put us thru the darkest period of cricket since the under arm incident, and you expect good results off the bat mate ? You have no clue mate..
@beefcake502 JB took a backseat during his reign when players questioned his coaching methods also, and those players manned up when they were told to shut it or leave, and got on with winning, so my question to you mate, is why can’t these players do the same thing ? You know why, cause their soft and bunch of snowflakes whom when someone they don’t like they remove from the equation. That’s called backstabbing someone mate.. These current bunch of players wouldn’t cope or have the mental strength and pride to be part of a real team.. All they care about is money and definitely not representing their country with pride like players used to a decade or so ago
Won you Ashes and won T20 WC ( even best Aussie team couldn't achieve that feat) . I feel JL deserved better.. If you can win T20 WC under his leadership how can you say his coaching style is traditional.. Players these days after little fame think they are bigger than sport ( I am generalizing this.. It can be seen in Indian cricket, now Australian cricket, Man U football team)
@@2partiesnotpreferred226 so no need for a coach?? They provide leadership, tactics, as Pat said he has been brilliant.. Coaches are just as important as your number 3 or strike bowler.. I honestly think the young guys and girls now are probably a little more sensitive to be putting on the spot, being told where they can improve, being dropped to better their game likely seems to them now a negative, rather than thinking positive about it, not as tough these days, the grit and determination in my opinion has disappeared..
Every sport coach’s are getting suspended when they lose too many games. But I don’t understand for this one as JL he is the one That,he brings Australian team back and also recently with great victory ashes.
In cricket captain runs the show not coach . Cricket is different than any other sports when it comes to leadership n captaincy. Coach can make max 5-6% different.
Lots more questions that answers 1. Pat mate, you wanted a change of a coach when the team is winning, what will you do if you are losing? 2. You didn't back a coach when he needed you to, does that mean you will not back any of your coaches ever, instead point it to the "process" that the cricket board will take? 3. How do you explain the differences in opinions between past and present players and don't they want what is best for Australian cricket? 4. How does the team deal with this unwanted attention where any signs of failure would have fallen on the shoulders of next coach and possibly you? 5. Any signs of failure would have meant getting rid of Langer would have been seen as a massive mistake on the players behalf and a pie on your face? I love for the team to do so, so well but getting rid of Langer when the cricket team is winning is just not on.
On point 1, Australia was doing pretty badly until before the T20 WC. And that was when the player's issues with JL came out in the media. Aus's performances in the T20 WC and in the Ashes have happened in a period where JL has deliberately taken a step back and been more laidback. On Point 3, past cricketers don't know the dynamics of the dressing room. They speak out of emotion and not out of actually knowledge of the various things actually happening. On point 5, you just have to look back at what I said over point 1 again. JL deliberately took a step back from his regular coaching style. But its also not fair to have him continue as coach and behave against his normal nature.
@@nikunjdixit1175 they had a chance to sack him last summer when we lost to the Indians at home but didn't. Changing a coach on a whim, doesn't make sense and I think you know it and tried to deflect why JL, a winning coach wasn't given a chance to continue. That means you are ok with the reason, that if a coach doesn't get along with the players, they can go, irrespective of the results
@@Olenn I don't think it was on a whim. There was a pretty open breakdown of relationships between JL and the players before the T20 WC. It was all over the news. So it wasn't as if they have been ok with him right till the Ashes and they have suddenly decided that there is an issue. The issue has been around for a while. I am honestly not that surprised. I remember watching The Test, the bts doc series following the Australian team after Sandpapergate and there were times in that series where players talked about JL being too intense. I assume that got even worse when a weakened Indian team beat a full strength Australian team.
Pat wants the old days? When Aussie cricket hit the rock-bottom under Lehmann? Not only sandpapergate but the whole tenure of Lehmann was messy. Good on us he didn't announce his departure before the T20WC unlike Kohli. Didn't expect this from Pat
What a brilliant way... Just maintain the calm by this aggressive bowler giant captain.... Having the strength to say the truth and at same time, be fair and respect without hurting anyone
JL doesn't deserve this shitty Australian Side he deserves to coach the Indian Cricket Team they atleast won't think of a coach like him to leave in his coaching Australia won the t20 world cup, they retained the 2019 Ashes and won the 2021 Ashes and also are the number 1 test side what else do they want? Also Marnus Labushagne is the number 1 test batsmen.
lmao, remember what happened to Kumble last time? No way that the BCCI would want a micromanaging, old-school type coach. Thats why Shastri was favored for the role until he left.
Lol, this is very much a dumb comment. I am an Indian and we have a much better history with coaches like John Wright, Gary Kirsten, Ravi Shastri... who are not so intense as compared to the JL's, Greg Chappelle's, and Anil Kumble's.
Absolutely gutless!! Easy to say nice things when your victim's back is full of stab wounds. What good coach will want the job? None!! In Australia we call a guy like this a 'weasel'
I don't see what's controversial abt this, its the process. If JL's fans wants to criticise they shd criticise the process of taking feedback from players and then making a decision in their favour. Team gave feedback what they felt, there's nothing wrong in it. Ultimately its d board which had to decide. Surely it wasn't the case in old days and nowadays its a different way of doing it (not saying wrong). Some may like it some may not but i think it's unfair to criticise Patty here, he gave feedback...wht he felt. CA took d decision, end of story. Ppl can certainly raise questions on CA that how they're running the process. Can we focus on some great upcoming Test cricketing action pls?
The end of the honeymoon period. Cummins comes out with a smile to talk about Langer's departure. Now that he's got rid of Langer the focus is on him. Not impressed.
I feel as though we finally have a team that Australia can be proud of. The old guard can't stomach that. Time to move on. Well done Pat, u are our captain.
Cricket Australia should have backed Justin Langer till the 50 overs world cup it's a shame when you have a winning coach why you need a change coaches make star players it's not players who should select their coaches
i think if you keep on saying "we have respect for JL" but then your only reasoning for kicking him off if you want someone more calm, just sounds like snowflake behaviour, just say the truth and dont avoid responsibility on it all
So Cummins went around the team stirring up trouble in order to bring attention to himself and get the captaincy. Then gets rid of the coach who he's been causing trouble for. He no longer looks such a great leader. If CA let him have the final say on who the new coach is - it can only mean big trouble down the line.
@@in_a_league_of_its_own7817 are you privy to what's going on in the dressing room? Maybe your one of the support staff? Did Cummins tell you his secret plan to get the captaincy?
This new Aussie team is forging it's own path. JL leaving is a necessary part of that. They can't be weighed down anymore by the expectations of the old guard to whom nothing is good enough.
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JL coaching style was probably the same as the Australian team he played in, and I’ve never heard one person complain about their achievements.
yes, the new generations are becoming soft and can't handle the heat
@@stevepitman251winning a world cup in India against India in front of 100,000 Indians is Soft now?
@@stevenp2309literally not what he meant but go off
@@Bennyy19 "yes the new generations are becoming soft and can't handle the heat"
I replied to that asking if winning a world cup in India is Soft now?
@@stevenp2309 eh brother that's not what he meant and idk why you're mentioning the wc because it's about how they threw Langer under the bus and did not like his training regime without him aussies would not have won that wc cause he rebuilt that squad with his fiery passion.
Led Australia at semifinals World Cup 2019
Led Australia to retain ashes 2019
Led Australia to defeat India in india 2019 both odi and T20
Led Australia to win the T20 World Cup 2021
and retaining ashes 2021.
One of the best coaches for Australian cricket team and always motivates the players to win. We will certainly miss this great coach.
He's coming england.
@beefcake502 Ashes 4-0 was a foregone conclusion, and that horrendous t20 world cup was decided entirely by the toss.
Like you said this guy has no clue.
Its been a good run, smile because it happened
What are you talking? If they lost the ashes he was gone.
@beefcake502 think we’ve just found out new coach…
Good luck on the new gig mate,!hopefully you learn from his mistakes :)
Disgraceful by CA. JL deserved better.
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Patty seems a really decent person. Difficult and stressful situation handled by him appropriately and respectfully. Mature beyond his years and a cut above what we are used to seeing from Australian sportsmen.
He's nothing but an arse wipe, couldn't shine JL's boots.
Pretty insulting to all the other sportsman… Where are the majority so bad?
I have no problem with letting JL go. There was a disconnect. But they should of handled it soooo much better. They should of just been honest with him. And done it respectfully
He wouldn't let Smith and Warner shop at Bunnings anymore so they had a cry to Cummins
"We want it to go back to the way it was before JL was our coach, things were so much better then." Also, "We told you what the problem was 6 months ago and all you've done is everything we asked, it's just not good enough."
PATHETIC...
@@grantcox4764 Aussies hit rock-bottom under Lehmann. JL didn't deserve this
@@AAAAAA-gj2di Thats what I don't understand. The decision is just so dumb...
@@grantcox4764 😔
I think Smith and Warner probably rubbed JL the wrong way. With 180 grit !
Well there's 7 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
Yes I realise it was 18:32 long, but I could only handle the bull$hit for 7!
So they've sacked the coach who brought back integrity, humility, decency to the baggy green and kept the yellow sandpaper boys ???
This isn't what I expected from Cummins. But looking at everything we can say that players didn't like JL and that's the main reason behind these recent events. Hopefully, the change in coach doesn't affect the rhythm of this team.
Whatever happened behind the scenes, JL deserved better than this for his contribution.
Fine decision. Just should of been handled a lot better. A lot better.
@@DW-rs1pr fine decision? He has made very gutsy selections that paid off and his coaching methods 'proved' to be a working formula. If it's club cricket I understand players morale is more important, but this is an international cricket team that have been dominating under Langers guidance. Some of the best teachers, fathers and coaches have proved they don't need to be your best friend to achieve greatness. They didn't just win the Ashes or 20/20 world cup, they dominated. Facts over feelings when playing at that level. When the going gets tough they shouldn't just push them out the door instead of learning how to deal with it. Short term it suits the players of course. I believe in many years to come they will look back on this and they will wonder why they didn't manage this better. The players I'm referring to. If you're at a fantastic school but don't like the teachers do you up and leave to another school. Well you shouldn't because they should be learning how to adapt and manage it themselves. We aren't talking about a Tyrant here. He is a coach of the Aussie team and was stabbed in the back by his own team mates and I think it was only a handful that have manipulated the others into thinking the same. The people surrounding JL don't have a bad word to say about him and his cricketing mind is second to none. Sorry to go on but they shouldn't be fixing something that's not broken. All in all I hope this is all forgotten and the team continues their winning ways.
@@BanksyOz Literally lost to the India C team at home
Was nothing to do with Langer for the T20 WC it was the Toss that helped us win the Cup
Doesn't only talk like a leader but walks his talk too, Cricket Australia have nailed down a solid leader. Hoping for you to get better and better.
Hats off Patty!
He’s a politician at this point.
Great great bowler and a decent bloke with gumption..put his foot down..you back your mates I back my team mates. Guess who will be fighting tooth and nail for Pat? His team mates.
@@rogerparker4468 Exactly!
Didn't disrespect anyone and also did what was best for the team, if the players don't gel with the coach it affects the performace of the team
"I think the players would benefit from a more collaborative approach". So back to pre 4 years ago then Pat?
Yep ,get the sandpaper ready.try and pick a colour that's more appropriate this time lol
A couple of the players threatened to "rough" Langer up. Only on one side though
@beefcake502 Gee whiz!.... who knew a member of the Australian team dressing room would address us and give us the facts?
@beefcake502 So.....Justin Langer was asked to modify his behaviour (by CA via da 'petals'). He complied.....which is beefcake's proof he had it coming? M'kay...
As an Aussie and love my cricket I think it was putrid the way CA have gone about this and in particularly Pat Cummins. Couldn't care how good this bloke is on the field the way he has gone about this is an embarrassment. He says he has respect for JL but his actions displayed no respect whatsoever. You don't need to love the bloke to have success and ultimately JL was flawless whilst in the job. Exceeded all expectations and whatever he was doing clearly worked. He would have and did support all of his players and should have received the same from the newly appointed captain. Let's not forget what JL had walked into when first taking the job. It was a mess and look at where the team is now. That's not Patty's doing. I was literally posting Patty for PM during the Ashes series but the way he has treated an absolute legend of Australian cricket is something to be ashamed of. If this interview doesn't give us all an indication of what type of bloke Patty is then I'm not sure what will. All I see is an arrogant pos who thought Langer had no bearing on the sides success and if anything was dead weight so to speak. Should never be fixing something thats not broken as the old saying goes. Patty would want to hope he doesn't make anymore embarrassing and foolish decisions in the near future because I'm sure it could come back to bite him in the ass. I truly hope the team is successful and JL moves on to bigger and better things as he definitely deserves more accolades and the Australian public know that. Let's now watch him rebuild the English side and hand it to us next Ashes. Patty will be eating his words then.
@Stuart Russell exactly and understandably if this is club cricket but at international level the only factor that should be considered is 'are they going to be successful' and Langer more than proved that he is not only a capable coach but a fantastic one at that. All coaches have a different approach to their game. When I was younger and playing rep cricket my coach was hard but ultimately he got the best out of me and in that season I learnt more than I did any other year. We were successful I might add and winning games certainly makes it all worth while. To actually see this happen at an international level and let alone with Australia is astounding. It was very evident that Langer got the best out of them. Looking at the debutants in the Ashes says it all. I'm still shocked at the decision tbh but I suppose we will see what happens in the not to distant future in whether or not it was a terrible decision
@Stuart Russell oh that's really cool. I didn't know of Herb Brooks but it sounds as though it was a similar style of coaching/mentoring. Ideally (from a players perspective) it wouldn't be what you would choose if they had an option but the proof is in the pudding and it wasn't just the results that were fantastic in recent times from the Australian cricket team, but in the manner they did it. The selecting from JL (which we know is an integral part of the job) was just brilliant. Another example would be in parents. Some fathers are tough on their kids and the kid's would favour their mother. They still love their father of course but if given an option would always tend to lean to their mother. When the child becomes an adult it's then they realise how much they appreciate their fathers way of upbringing. It shapes them into the adult they become and more than likely become successful and very likeable and also respectful. Being a coach of such a high performing team wouldn't be easy especially with the personalities in this particular side. Thankyou for educating me on the miracle on ice and its a very good comparison. I will be sure to look more into it. I really hope JL picks himself up and makes CA regret their decision to take the soft feelings of the players over a proven recipe for success.
@@BanksyOz yeah and the mess wasn't just due to sandpapergate. Almost everything was going wrong with the men's team except our bowling attack...we lost to SL, Ban and Proteas (home and away). We were unlucky in CT but played it without any intensity
@@BanksyOz yeah and the mess wasn't just due to sandpapergate. Almost everything was going wrong with the men's team except our bowling attack...we lost to SL, Ban and Proteas (home and away). We were unlucky in CT but played it without any intensity
Pat is a dipstick.
Great by Cummins to clear the smoke.
Certainly destroyed the myth that bowlers are knuckleheads,what a composed interview.
Good joke mate, try stand up?
Pat Cummins is such a composed leader and he wants to give space to his team mates so that ,they can focus on their game and this team doesnt need a technical coach cuz most players are experienced and knws that, they are doing, they just man manager and composed coach that can give players freedom and only interfere when they have to !
And supply the sandpaper.
Do you remember what the team was when JL took over and his instructions from CA? When the players fronted him 6 months ago JL did everything they asked of him, in Cummins own words,"he has been brilliant since then."
As for the players not needing technical direction, may I point your attention towards the English team...
So composed ?
Look at his body language.
He's hopping from foot to foot in nervousness wondering what sort of bull he's going to have to think up next in an effort to cover up his shoddy and disloyal behaviour that led to the displacement of his coach.
@@grantcox4764 Dude I remember the team that he took over ,again u take Smith and Warner out of the team it will still be the same team except Marnus development rest is the same ,with the inclusion of Smith and Warner team will always be formidable, now team needs a good man manager cuz most of the players are at their maturity level, he is a young team coach and yes can be a good coach of England team for sure !
Look at the way hes swaying around at various stages while answering questions. He is VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. And after what's happened, I'm not surprised!.
Say what you will about Pat but at the very least he stepped up. He is by a very decent margin the greatest Aussie bowler since McGrath/ Warne, and also making a decent job of leading from the front, which it seems comes naturally to him. Odd that CA didnt front up to the media instead though.
Bit of an unnecessary knock to Brett lee and Mitchell Johnson...... dont you think
He,s not in that company yet.
@@shiraz1736
38 tests, 185 wickets, 21.19 average, SR of 45.9, and a handy batter. Yes, these numbers might slacken but they are far superior to aforementioneds. Sure he has been blighted by injury but these numbers are astonishing and place him amongst a handful. Ozzies Dale Steyn but a better bat. Appreciate him while he's around
@@anthonyselby6436 Given Mitchell Johnson called Pat gutless in the media without having the decency to say it to his face, I would say its more than warranted to him at least.
Pat Cummins right now, 2003 brett lee, 2014 ashes Johnson .... who do you pick?
its disgrace how hero JL has been treated ..
when he said he didnt want to go too much into details, he was serious! The dude didn't say anything about what had happened.
"I'll answer your questions"
"I don't want to go into details"
And he’s absolutely right. The dressing room and the conversations should be kept private.
Smith and Warner still think they are leading the team. That's the details.
@@barearmz2794 Cummins and Paine themselves said, including Finch they always take tips from Smith considering how good he was as a captain
Pat's been criticised way more than he deserves in my opinion. We'll probably never know what really happened but I think it's fair to assume that he wouldn't have been the only one wanting JL to go.
Don't know who should be blamed for this but definitely will take time into a transition and not a good sign when the team just got their form back
Well said
Listening to PC in the media there, and seeing some of the video clips which were taken in dressing rooms and management areas - which should never have been taken - it’s clear that - as great a servant to Aussie cricket as JL was - he isn’t blameless in why he’s been given the flick - however badly that’s been handled.
It probably isn’t a coincidence that all of the team’s recent success is after the review 6 months ago where JL ‘received feedback’.
To sum it up - it looks like with his temper and intensity, he lost the dressing room.
Translation "JL did'nt pander to our egos as much as we would like".
@beefcake502 Oh, I've got several clues "champ". Going to look pretty stupid if and when this winning "run" ends. Not sure beating about the worst England team ever is that great an achievement whoever was in charge -or in a backseat role.
@beefcake502 Not really. You're assuming I'm a big fan of Langer- I'm not. I just think it's a dangerous precedent when the team picks the coach. Particularly when its largely the same players who through their actions got the last coach out. Once is careless. Twice? All because he swore at a couple of players three years ago or something. Glad you acknowledge that I'm the champ by the way.
@beefcake502 Obviously you're much closer to the Australian dressing room than me. Tell you who's available -Chris Silverwood. Everyone's best mate and utterly clueless. Sounds a perfect fit. Pakistan will be interesting... hope they prove me wrong.
For the first time in years we have a team we can like, admire, & be proud of.
... which was built by JL.
@alex K Even the captain acknowledged what he did to the team, but some 'idiots'' can't.
@alex K alex it was all JL Lehmann was a fairy.
@alex K let me guess, player win games and when they lose games, the coach get the sack? Well sorry JL, you are on a winning team and you still lose!
@alex K
Cummins starc hazlewood warner lyon smith we’re there before JL, sooooo when they dragged the team into one of Australia’s most embarrassing periods of cricket and shred our reputation on the world stage? And CA brought JL in specifically to restore the proper attitudes into the team and rebuild our brand? Which he did, in spades. And now those same players decided JL wasn’t the man for the job. Yeah righto
JL deserves better
It makes sense. JL had one specific coaching style which was limited to certain things. For a team to remain on top, it must keep swimming like a shark and not get complacent. It’s the players that have to do the playing. The coach isn’t the lifeblood of the team, the players are
Well said mate, I agree
But if the coach isn't creating the right environment for the team then unfortunately the team wont be able to perform to their best potential.
Only time can tell whether letting go of JL is the right thing to do. There are so many reputations at risk here and so much unwanted attention, and the press will lap it all up when things go pear shaped
100%. The captain is the leader. The coach is not. JL did not realise this fact about Aussie cricket. Should have spoken with Ian Chappell to understand this.
To be honest, he answered everything in balanced manner. Certainly the best one to lead Australia.
It’s obviously a very tough decision on JL but sometimes playing groups need new voices to invigorate and help teams grow, I feel sorry for Pat being thrown to the wolves here, Australian cricket officials should have been front and centre weeks ago on this matter. You don’t want a coach who the players don’t respond too, JL done an outstanding job rebuilding this team but it’s time to move on.
Could u pls tell me in brief what's the whole matter between Pat and Langer?
@@ravishingr538 pat has no issue with Langer personally it seems. It's just that Langer was an angry little guy who would make all the players uncomfortable. He wanted to put too many strange rules In place and the current players didn't like it
@@ravishingr538 he told the players not to eat certain things and not to wear certain things.. after a while everyone got sick of that.
@@ravishingr538 Langer was too micromanaging and hands-on. The players got sick of it and want a new coach. Same thing happened with Kohli and Kumble
@@eyecontrol4900 they dismissed a coach when they are winning, so let's see what happen when they lose the next series. It will be so funny
Hold a press conference and don’t want to go into much detail - that will do me .
Wining world cup and ashes, what more do they want? What is the requirements of coach selection, do they care about performance? Circus recruitment process, what is the job description, recruit Novak Djokovic as head coach hahaha.
They one even though they were burdened by the coach. The players are the ones who get it done.
Embarrassing behaviour by CA. Giving 6month contract to JL who won the first ever t20 wc for aus. Pat comes out very flaky and backstabber here. Ngl aus need a humbling hopefully at Pak.
Well said...
No it was the players who won.
@alex K who teaches that player what is needed to win?
What I find confusing is the length of the contract. If they wanted him gone, just be upfront and admit they want to have a different coaching style. To offer a 6 month contract shows they're happy enough with the situation for it to continue for the next summer.
@beefcake502 you sound like my Uber driver? 🤔🤦🤣😂
Pat Cummins, you are a brilliant player and you can be a very good captain. Never give in!!!... Ricky Ponting, Steve Waugh, Alan Border were all very resolute and they all were really really tough!!!!
“We are all professionals here, if we didn’t get the coach we want…no problem we will keep playing”
For me that statement reveals a lot about what was wrong with Cricket Australia for 20 years and why Langer created effective change
It is not a right to play for Australia it is an honour!
Soak up the tears you current crop of Australian players because you just got rid of a winner.
It’s not about your feelings…..it’s about winning!
I agree that it's an honour to play cricket for any nation you come from, but JL was not a great coach, he truly wasn't. He got by on his own reputation as a decent batsman. He never improved the current team, I'd say he hindered them more than anything else. Let's not forget all the crazy stuff he did.. no toasted sandwiches?? Random but still weird. No wrist watches? Strange again.. and all the born again Christian stuff he tried to sneak in the the Aussie cricket team ?? There's no surprise that the players didn't want him around.. the team will be fine without JL
@@joedont9307 maybe. But he got results……and that is where the rubber meets the road
@@joedont9307 I'm not sure I'd class "telling a member of your team to stick to their allotted lunch break" as 'crazy'. I'd be more concerned about the guy wanting to shove a sandwich in his sweaty pocket to eat later, after he's been running around and diving on the grass...
@@mickfordham6631 who got results though? The players did..not Langer. Langer didn't do anything that you or I couldn't do.
@@bobagorof thats the exact problem.. alotted lunch break? Don't tell people what they can or can't eat. Thats crazy stuff and you know it is. And why was JL telling people not to wear a wrist watch.. he became furious whenever a player had a watch on.. that's just weird and controlling. He would also want the players to pray to God at certain points. I'm happy for jl to be a born again Christian but don't ever force that stuff onto the playing team
He's got a (Us here at cricket Australia) mentality ,,pat Cummins "The corporate captain"
I can see pat being booed next time at Perth and I would love it
Stepped in when the majority of this team were part of the South African debacle that flushed Australian cricket down the Dunny, which saw the suspension of 3 players , whether we actually find out the whole story who knows. Now this same group have engineered his departure.. will get their mate installed as the new coach.. happy days they are now back in charge
Always nice to come back here to reinforce the idea that patty will always silence his critics 😂look at him now
Shame on you CA and you Pat.
Some of these reporters are rubbish - "Has that weighed on you quite a bit, and been the toughest experience of your career"? What kind of stupid, leading question is that? The reporter is pushing his own opinion. And even if he got the answer he wanted (which he didn't), what has he learned? Nothing. Nowhere near approaching decent journalism, and he should be ashamed for asking it.
How to say nothing for 18 mins straight. We already knew what he said. And its understandable. Should have played out less publicly. But ig if there is indeed anything more to it, our best hope of knowing that maybe when Aaron Finch is open to questions in a few days time. He is an honest bloke (as far as one can tell) who doesn't beat around the bush with his press conferences.
I thought he handled himself brilliantly - being as helpful as possible, while also being clear about his responsibilities to his team & to CA - who are his employer.
I rlly liked cummins and still do i think hes a wonderful ambassador for the game and is a decent human being but i cant help the fact that he was smiling and so carefree as if nothing happened or to mock Jl. Idk if u guys picked this up if so comment under my comment.
Best thing about jLs tenure according to me being a Aussie cricket enthusiat players were available for most part usually before JL players were not available
I think jL should have continued with a more calmer approach
Love Aussies❤️
Let's hope some one worthy gets the job now
I highly respect Pat Cummins maturity and talent but is it really healthy for the captain and players to have this much power over the team? I guess that’s just a very Australian thing, to be so highly assured of one’s self.
As Pat says in the conference, cricket is unique in the sense that the captain carries a lot more responsibility than almost any other sport. You can't blame the players for voicing their opinions, it's up to CA whether they listen to them or not.
Cricket has always like this
Exactly same happened in kumble vs kohli saga
The only thing is that india lost champions trophy but here langer won 2 trophies back to back
well they lost and drew multiple series before that though. lost 2 to india at home, drew to bangladesh and so as such in the last 6 months he reduced his intensity and stepped back a bit
@@11hitmanDagenius also they won imp tosses in w t 20 and england was pretty much one man show
Is this a politician or the test captain ? This is just painful to watch
Well said Cummins! We’re so proud of you and your leadership! JLs departure was always going to be fraught because he is tenacious and wouldn’t have realized how to exit quietly.
What a load of bollocks
How can you not like this guy and respect his genuineness..? As far as I’m concerned like I’ve said before, we’re ought to be very very lucky Australia to have Pat Cummins as Australian cricket captain and in fact I reckon Pat Cummins as our Prime minister, not now though coz we need you but later on after you retire from the game..! Absolutely love this guy..!
Coward
"A different direction??" Isn't that direction in winning?
The next series will provide all the answers
Hard to stand there and be untruthful and insincere Eh Pat.People use an old adage about wanting someone to trust to watch your back Well I don't think Pat is that sort.He is not the amiable guy he wants you to think he is.He will get you.
We were Patty's fans from when he played for the Perth Scorches and followed his path to Captain of Australian test side!!! We are also fans of Justin Langer, thought he did a remarkable job with the team to bring them back to the top of the cricket ladder! We enjoy cricket, but honestly all the ups and downs in the last few years has been unsettling to say the least!!! We wish JL all the best in his future endeavours he has done a great job and should be very proud, but as far as the current team goes we will wait and see!!!
Tough situation for Pat Cummins as he just became captain. I respect his view and the view from the players as they have been successful. The task now is that they MUST continue winning to justify the decision.
Cummings is talking like he’s the boss of Cricket Australia.
Well he has the most important role there lol
@@2partiesnotpreferred226 this guy is a CA patsy...
Why don't you just say what you really mean? Clearly, JL isn't woke enough. If Smith and Warner were involved in the 'player's revolt' then their lack of self-awareness is staggering. ACB is a raging joke!
It's all player power these days. Cricket is an interesting game for a coach really. Let them get on with it I guess.
Love you Pat Cummins. You are an inspiration. If they have made you the captain it is only fair that your say is more important than what JL's friends feel about it!!
Cummins was excellent in this. Answered every question honestly and with respect.
JL has upset just about every current player and multiple administrators in some way in the last few years. Oz has won the Ashes and the T20 World cup despite JL, not at all because of him.
Kidding right? He played the straight bat on nearly every question...just look at his body language and how uncomfortable he looks. He must feel really guilty and it actually shows.
@alex K Are you high as a kite mate, or just playing devil's advocate? JL has been treated as a mercenary, and Pat/other players has no right to oust him...Pat's only just taken the captaincy and look at the amount of heat on him. He's basically melting in this interview, so awkward/cringe...hard to watch
@@legsaroonie2659 I thought he handled himself very well - yes, he hopped around a bit - not easy mate - being grilled by a load of journos out for blood - for 18 minutes.... knowing that any mistake will be blown up all over the media...
@@in_a_league_of_its_own7817
Comfortable
He's hopping around from foot to foot wondering how to gloss over the next question.
The current team wanted a SANDPAPER, but JLO refused, hence he was asked to QUIT.
That joke is old. Can't you think of anything else?
@@bobagorof not a joke but reality
So very disappointed with Cummins. At the end of the day, what Cummins "sows" today will come back to bite him in the near future.
Threw JL under the bus, still trying to wash his hands of it. Man up Patrick. You wanted him gone and that’s fine. Why take the public for idiots and hold a presser where you don’t actually reveal any details
Gutted for JL but the most important thing now is to find the right man for the job and move forward
Starts off with: "Well, I don't want to get into too much detail". Well then, my bad for thinking that this was supposed to be a press conference to dispel or provide clarity to the rumors floating around over the past few days. Seems like yet another carefully-orchestrated photo op. Everything is well, nothing to see or listen to here, folks!
The players thought he was a pr*ck ... it really isn't that complicated.
Players too soft these days mate actually.. soft mentality and Cummins be woke.. can’t be trusted now..
Yeah. Asshole took their sandpaper away
@@speedymaster5758 woke? lmaaaao, this has nothing to do with politics. They got sick of his hands on, micromanaging approach (especially with the covid bubbles). Remember when he had a tantrum in the WI & Bangladesh tours last yr, and CA told him to cool down? I feel bad for JL since CA are a bunch of clowns and screwed him over, but he isnt a perfect coach like the ex-players say he is.
@beefcake502 So a new coach comes in and takes over the team after a cheating scandal that put us thru the darkest period of cricket since the under arm incident, and you expect good results off the bat mate ? You have no clue mate..
@beefcake502 JB took a backseat during his reign when players questioned his coaching methods also, and those players manned up when they were told to shut it or leave, and got on with winning, so my question to you mate, is why can’t these players do the same thing ? You know why, cause their soft and bunch of snowflakes whom when someone they don’t like they remove from the equation. That’s called backstabbing someone mate.. These current bunch of players wouldn’t cope or have the mental strength and pride to be part of a real team.. All they care about is money and definitely not representing their country with pride like players used to a decade or so ago
Leading from the front, we are behind you Pat
Won you Ashes and won T20 WC ( even best Aussie team couldn't achieve that feat) . I feel JL deserved better.. If you can win T20 WC under his leadership how can you say his coaching style is traditional.. Players these days after little fame think they are bigger than sport ( I am generalizing this.. It can be seen in Indian cricket, now Australian cricket, Man U football team)
The coach doesn't score the runs and take the wickets
@@2partiesnotpreferred226 the way they treated Langer was disgraceful!!...he was the reason why Australia was able to win the T20 wc and the Ashes!!
@@2partiesnotpreferred226 so no need for a coach?? They provide leadership, tactics, as Pat said he has been brilliant.. Coaches are just as important as your number 3 or strike bowler.. I honestly think the young guys and girls now are probably a little more sensitive to be putting on the spot, being told where they can improve, being dropped to better their game likely seems to them now a negative, rather than thinking positive about it, not as tough these days, the grit and determination in my opinion has disappeared..
@beefcake502 Australia won T20 wc and Ashes only because of Langer's valuable inputs and coaching...you are a JL hater!!
He was a great coach. I wanna see Matthew Hayden replace him
Haydos wouldn't do it
Look at the maturity that he has
It's getting like football, managers come and managers go.
Every sport coach’s are getting suspended when they lose too many games. But I don’t understand for this one as JL he is the one That,he brings Australian team back and also recently with great victory ashes.
IT was Warner!!!
"I can hold my head high"....what a delusional chap. Craps on for 18 minutes, giving nothing. Wolf in sheeps clothing
Pat Cummins is speaking as if he is the CEO of cricket Australia, if a coach chooses teams how can a team chose the coach ?
Australian cricket captain has always been more important than the coach. Always will be.
In cricket captain runs the show not coach . Cricket is different than any other sports when it comes to leadership n captaincy. Coach can make max 5-6% different.
Lots more questions that answers 1. Pat mate, you wanted a change of a coach when the team is winning, what will you do if you are losing? 2. You didn't back a coach when he needed you to, does that mean you will not back any of your coaches ever, instead point it to the "process" that the cricket board will take? 3. How do you explain the differences in opinions between past and present players and don't they want what is best for Australian cricket? 4. How does the team deal with this unwanted attention where any signs of failure would have fallen on the shoulders of next coach and possibly you? 5. Any signs of failure would have meant getting rid of Langer would have been seen as a massive mistake on the players behalf and a pie on your face? I love for the team to do so, so well but getting rid of Langer when the cricket team is winning is just not on.
On point 1, Australia was doing pretty badly until before the T20 WC. And that was when the player's issues with JL came out in the media. Aus's performances in the T20 WC and in the Ashes have happened in a period where JL has deliberately taken a step back and been more laidback. On Point 3, past cricketers don't know the dynamics of the dressing room. They speak out of emotion and not out of actually knowledge of the various things actually happening. On point 5, you just have to look back at what I said over point 1 again. JL deliberately took a step back from his regular coaching style. But its also not fair to have him continue as coach and behave against his normal nature.
@@nikunjdixit1175 they had a chance to sack him last summer when we lost to the Indians at home but didn't. Changing a coach on a whim, doesn't make sense and I think you know it and tried to deflect why JL, a winning coach wasn't given a chance to continue. That means you are ok with the reason, that if a coach doesn't get along with the players, they can go, irrespective of the results
@@Olenn I don't think it was on a whim. There was a pretty open breakdown of relationships between JL and the players before the T20 WC. It was all over the news. So it wasn't as if they have been ok with him right till the Ashes and they have suddenly decided that there is an issue. The issue has been around for a while. I am honestly not that surprised. I remember watching The Test, the bts doc series following the Australian team after Sandpapergate and there were times in that series where players talked about JL being too intense. I assume that got even worse when a weakened Indian team beat a full strength Australian team.
Pat wants the old days? When Aussie cricket hit the rock-bottom under Lehmann? Not only sandpapergate but the whole tenure of Lehmann was messy. Good on us he didn't announce his departure before the T20WC unlike Kohli. Didn't expect this from Pat
i think Justin's coaching style will be more suitable for teams like England or even india ....!!!
What a brilliant way... Just maintain the calm by this aggressive bowler giant captain.... Having the strength to say the truth and at same time, be fair and respect without hurting anyone
I had so much faith in Cummins but I feel like he has really let the country down. He clearly wants JL gone
Keeping things a side.. It would be a bit difficult to regroup once again as a unit if any new coach takes over the contract.
Love from Pakistan Pat Cummins,,❤️
JL doesn't deserve this shitty Australian Side he deserves to coach the Indian Cricket Team they atleast won't think of a coach like him to leave in his coaching Australia won the t20 world cup, they retained the 2019 Ashes and won the 2021 Ashes and also are the number 1 test side what else do they want? Also Marnus Labushagne is the number 1 test batsmen.
lmao, remember what happened to Kumble last time? No way that the BCCI would want a micromanaging, old-school type coach. Thats why Shastri was favored for the role until he left.
Lol, this is very much a dumb comment. I am an Indian and we have a much better history with coaches like John Wright, Gary Kirsten, Ravi Shastri... who are not so intense as compared to the JL's, Greg Chappelle's, and Anil Kumble's.
Absolutely gutless!!
Easy to say nice things when your victim's back is full of stab wounds.
What good coach will want the job? None!!
In Australia we call a guy like this a 'weasel'
Justin langer good batsman, he like batsman more than bowlers!
Very difficult for Australian captain.
Keeps talking direction direction, what is the direction they want to take, lose and start cheating again?
Glad youv'e found a real bright spark to lead .... What a stunt !
This is just like the kumble saga with a bit more drama in it .
I don't see what's controversial abt this, its the process. If JL's fans wants to criticise they shd criticise the process of taking feedback from players and then making a decision in their favour. Team gave feedback what they felt, there's nothing wrong in it. Ultimately its d board which had to decide. Surely it wasn't the case in old days and nowadays its a different way of doing it (not saying wrong). Some may like it some may not but i think it's unfair to criticise Patty here, he gave feedback...wht he felt. CA took d decision, end of story. Ppl can certainly raise questions on CA that how they're running the process. Can we focus on some great upcoming Test cricketing action pls?
Absolutely. If the players are asked their opinion they have a duty to give it honestly. That doesn't mean the players sacked the coach.
JL was little too harsh on the players. If players don’t trust their coach then they need a new coach. Fans come to watch players not the coach
Pat super in Ashes
Well said Patty! Completely agree with what you said 👏🙌
The end of the honeymoon period. Cummins comes out with a smile to talk about Langer's departure. Now that he's got rid of Langer the focus is on him. Not impressed.
I feel as though we finally have a team that Australia can be proud of. The old guard can't stomach that. Time to move on. Well done Pat, u are our captain.
Cricket Australia should have backed Justin Langer till the 50 overs world cup it's a shame when you have a winning coach why you need a change coaches make star players it's not players who should select their coaches
i think if you keep on saying "we have respect for JL" but then your only reasoning for kicking him off if you want someone more calm, just sounds like snowflake behaviour, just say the truth and dont avoid responsibility on it all
So Cummins went around the team stirring up trouble in order to bring attention to himself and get the captaincy. Then gets rid of the coach who he's been causing trouble for. He no longer looks such a great leader. If CA let him have the final say on who the new coach is - it can only mean big trouble down the line.
Yeah right and Cummins is probably the one who leaked those dik piks of paine, just to get the top job! 🙄 nonsense, what a dumb take
@@tomm5765 Anthony's right actually mate, you're the one that looks like a fool with a comment like that.
@@in_a_league_of_its_own7817 are you privy to what's going on in the dressing room? Maybe your one of the support staff? Did Cummins tell you his secret plan to get the captaincy?
This new Aussie team is forging it's own path. JL leaving is a necessary part of that. They can't be weighed down anymore by the expectations of the old guard to whom nothing is good enough.
Hid behind the skirt of Cricket Aust in this process and only when he gets called out does he respond with this corporate gobbledygook...weak.
Totally agree
Pat needs to have the courage of his convictions and admit to HIS role in having JL dismissed.
This is pretty gutless if you ask me
Pat will also get a taste of his own medicine in future...
no he wont
What does that mean
@@picklescustard6645 yes, he will actually. The CA has a history of not handling the end of captaincy very well at all.
Not fit to lace Steve Waugh's boots
Not been able to get wickets against Pakistan?!
JL's absence can be seen in Australian team