I"m from Belgium, and it's the first time I've heard the story in its entirety. I've caught snippets before and I knew it's still missing but it was fun hearing you talk about the whole ordeal!
Just last week I read about a woman who spent $34.99 at Goodwill for a statue bust, only to eventually discover it was 1st century Roman, and had been lost during WWII. The lady worked hard to find out what it was, and then said she was kind of sad she didn’t get to keep it. I’m not sure, but it didn’t seem like she got any kind of reward, maybe they cut her a check for $35 for her time and expense.
man i would have buried it so far away and then forgotten where that place was but then suddenly recalled where it was.. but only for a lot more then $35 dollars.
Thank History Guy. I am 1 of the millions that have, several times, visited this master piece. It is wonderful and worthy of anyone's bucket list. I always study the Judges Panel closely and wonder ... I too think that priests of the Catholic Church in Ghent stole it hoping to collect a ransom.
Hats off to the efforts of the “Monuments Men” for finding and saving this and so much more Art that might have been lost forever at the end of the Second World War.
@@HemlockRidge 🙀 Perhaps early 21st century Bill Murray- I admit I'm not a great fan of the royal Tannenbaums or the life aquatic, but Tootsie? stripes? SNL? *_GHOSTBUSTERS!?_* 🤯😏😉👍
Well, missing artwork thought lost forever sometimes turns up in some odd place. There was some woman in France(?) who had a small painting by one of the masters hanging in her kitchen for something like 40 years. Then there was the Roman bust that turned up in a thrift store (Charity Shop for you Brits) for $35...turns out to be from ancient Rome and was looted from a German Museum after WW2. It's on it's way back to Germany. I don't think the German Government is even going to give her her $35 back :(
Yes I just heard about that - a thrift store in Texas. Kinda makes you want to do MORE of that. A young man (not all that long ago in fact) found an original copy of Common Sense in a LIBRARY RESALE of all places.
I used to have a very large, somewhat older book about the Ghent Altarpiece and the art of Jan van Eyck. It had colour plates and little folding panels. I think the book was stolen by someone else from a private Chicago university. It came into my possession without my knowledge, and when I contacted them about it, they seemed confused about why I'd return it. It has subsequently been lost to me through unknown means. Fitting.
What an amazing story. Honestly, I feel the copy of the painting is a really kind gesture on the part of the artist who painted it. Even though it’s not the original, it seems to be magnificent enough to fill it’s big shoes enough to be put on permanent display! I’m sure at some point someone will accidentally unearth the original.
My worry would be that due to passage of time and several generations, will the finder k ow what he has found? And hopefully will not just toss it out as outdated trash.
This story and the story of the Russian Amber Room have always intrigued me. You have 2 very large pieces of art that are missing and priceless and are also very easy to spot but yet both have never been found. I would love to be able to have the money that I could go to Europe and try to find them myself as I love doing research on art like this. Thank you for another very entertaining and informative video.
Amber room burned with the destruction of Königsberg Castle. The Soviets accidentally burned their own treasure and hid it out of embarrassment. This is well known, there is no mystery outside of why people still watch the “history” channel
I had the same thought. I think artists of that era doing portraits were probably tuned into how the subject would like to be seen, so I'm guessing she didn't mind and wanted that stern countenance to show.
Don't you just love it when people think the can automatically remember a case's detail? Therefore, no need to write it down. I think that's funny. Thanks for another great video.
Antiques road Show. A novice painting of the Titanic.......but it was painted on the back of a menu from the famous ship wreck. Value? Lots! “Monuments Men”does a fine job covering this.
I don't know if any of you are familiar with the headless painting known as "the origin of the world", which is hanging in the Musee D'Orsay in Paris; it appears that at some point someone apparently removed the head of the female figure from the painting, but the missing piece of the painting purportedly turned up a few years ago (though the identification and authentication is controversial). I am intentionally not giving you too many details so that it won't spoil the surprise when you go look it up yourselves.....🤔😯😲
Thank you. Yes: I did indeed enjoy this episode. I rather love unsolved mysteries and stories featuring police-bungling. Somehow ... perversely satisfying.
Bwah-hah-hah! Yes: Thomson and Thompson in English, "Dupont et Dupond" in French. This would very nicely fill out a hundred plot-lines in a fictional "Missing Tin-Tin Book".
Interesting. I have often wondered about the amount of art that was stolen during the war that was never returned. In my own theories some of it was used to buy the freedom or lack of prosecution of certain highly placed individuals such as Captains of Industry from the 3rd Reich. The art forever disappeared into private collections.
There's also the art collection that was pilfered from a museum, which Boston mobster Whitey Bulger was presumed to have had a hand in, but he went to his grave without revealing any secrets.
@@goodun2974 i did not know about that one. It is said stolen art is a form of currency in certain circles. It would be cool to delve into the mysterys.
@@shawnr771 in March of 1990, 13 works worth hundreds of millions of dollars were stolen from the Gardner museum in Boston, including works by Vermeer, Rembrandt, Manet and Degas. None have been recovered. The thieves were disguised as police officers; mobster Whitey Bulger had cops in Boston on his payroll, and also had IRA ties, and one theory is that the art went to Ireland or may have been used as payment for guns and explosives.
@@shawnr771 And then there is the mystery behind a painting hanging in a Paris museum, known as " the origin of the world", which is headless; and about a decade ago, another painting that purports to be the "missing" head was discovered. Lots of controversy surrounding this one.
If the guy who says he is the only one who knew where the painting was also happened to be an aspiring artist, could he maybe have painted over it to hide it?
They have to try using ground penetrating radar it's buried near a bush or tree next to a public easement hope they have a photo or map from when it was stolen
This isn’t the only time a painting was stolen. Apparently, in the 1910s the Mona Lisa was stolen from the Louvre by an Italian nationalist who wanted revenge on Napoleon and his conquest of Italy. The only difference is that the Mona Lisa was found.
@@kbrock9146 , I've seen the Mona Lisa in the Louvre and found it underwhelming. The Impressionists, however, are another matter entirely ---- you cannot really appreciate Renoir, Monet, Manet and the others until you see them in person. They are magnificent.
You are talking about when the church was the supreme judge ruling over countries. Figures the Vatican didn't like a painting in a church depicting progression from Adam and Eve to their being judges ruling over the populous not the Vatican.
It’s St. Bavo not Bravo. There is no R in it. I would have used sawn instead of sawed. I loved St Bavo’S when we went to Europe. Ghent is beautiful and worth stopping on your way back from Bruges. Brugge is worth days and days of sightseeing.
I"m from Belgium, and it's the first time I've heard the story in its entirety. I've caught snippets before and I knew it's still missing but it was fun hearing you talk about the whole ordeal!
Hello, I'm from Belgium and i even live in Ghent. it's nice to see you talk about something that happened right here. Love your channel!!!
You are what the history channel ought to be, keep up the Outstanding work
Yes, hardly any aliens or ghosts on The History Guy..What..Actual History? Like it is meant to be, and stellar at that.
@@BrilliantDesignOnline But there still be pirates matey!
@@RustyLid Arrggghhh
THG: More history than the history channel
And fewer reruns
And more music than MTV.
I simply call it "The Hysteria Channel" these days. Mostly B.S. of a sensationalist nature.
More travel than the Travel Channel too.
There still exists a “History Channel?”
I thought it was ancient history.
I saw the missing panel on Pawn Stars.
Chumlee bought it after having it appraised by a friend.
Just last week I read about a woman who spent $34.99 at Goodwill for a statue bust, only to eventually discover it was 1st century Roman, and had been lost during WWII. The lady worked hard to find out what it was, and then said she was kind of sad she didn’t get to keep it. I’m not sure, but it didn’t seem like she got any kind of reward, maybe they cut her a check for $35 for her time and expense.
man i would have buried it so far away and then forgotten where that place was but then suddenly recalled where it was.. but only for a lot more then $35 dollars.
That could be a good story for the History Guy
@@stevewixom9311 sorry put i lost it. I don't recall were I put it .I belive the cleaning lady throw it away.
Thanks THG. This story of missing pieces is an historical jigsaw puzzle.
An action figure of Bob Ross has been added to the History Shelf I see.
Well played History Guy, well played!🧑🎨🎨🖌️
They could get Bob Ross to paint the missing pieces in a half hour.
Agreed, well played, thank you for pointing that out; I was so mesmerized by people fighting over an old painting I did not even notice.
Your one of the best story teller and teachers that I have ever had the opportunity to learn from. Thank you.
Favorite time of the day. Is When your vid drop
Thank History Guy. I am 1 of the millions that have, several times, visited this master piece. It is wonderful and worthy of anyone's bucket list. I always study the Judges Panel closely and wonder ... I too think that priests of the Catholic Church in Ghent stole it hoping to collect a ransom.
Hats off to the efforts of the “Monuments Men” for finding and saving this and so much more Art that might have been lost forever
at the end of the Second World War.
Great book, terrible movie.
good book, entertaining film
@@constancemiller3753 Why do you hate John Goodman? I can understand your hatred of Bill Murray,
@@HM2SGT
I seem to remember that someone, objecting to the regime, is gunned down?
@@HemlockRidge 🙀 Perhaps early 21st century Bill Murray- I admit I'm not a great fan of the royal Tannenbaums or the life aquatic, but Tootsie? stripes? SNL? *_GHOSTBUSTERS!?_* 🤯😏😉👍
These opening images are incredible. Great. Thanks
Well, missing artwork thought lost forever sometimes turns up in some odd place. There was some woman in France(?) who had a small painting by one of the masters hanging in her kitchen for something like 40 years. Then there was the Roman bust that turned up in a thrift store (Charity Shop for you Brits) for $35...turns out to be from ancient Rome and was looted from a German Museum after WW2. It's on it's way back to Germany. I don't think the German Government is even going to give her her $35 back :(
Yes I just heard about that - a thrift store in Texas. Kinda makes you want to do MORE of that. A young man (not all that long ago in fact) found an original copy of Common Sense in a LIBRARY RESALE of all places.
@DEZZNUTZ 1001 No. Just common criminals.
I used to have a very large, somewhat older book about the Ghent Altarpiece and the art of Jan van Eyck. It had colour plates and little folding panels. I think the book was stolen by someone else from a private Chicago university. It came into my possession without my knowledge, and when I contacted them about it, they seemed confused about why I'd return it. It has subsequently been lost to me through unknown means. Fitting.
What an amazing story. Honestly, I feel the copy of the painting is a really kind gesture on the part of the artist who painted it. Even though it’s not the original, it seems to be magnificent enough to fill it’s big shoes enough to be put on permanent display! I’m sure at some point someone will accidentally unearth the original.
My worry would be that due to passage of time and several generations, will the finder k ow what he has found? And hopefully will not just toss it out as outdated trash.
@@ronfullerton3162 My big fear would be that it was hidden in the rafters as a roof panel of insulation, and was destroyed during a renovation.
@@DonP_is_lostagain So many ways it could hide out and end up being trashed. No way to ever know what could or has happened.
Fascinating!
In 2012 there were rumors that descendants of August De Schryver, a Belgian politician, has the painting in their family possession.
What a bizarre story. I love historical mysteries!
The most interesting piece. Thank you.
I feel grateful to have seen the Ghent Altarpiece in person 20 years ago. Thanks for your perspective on it!
This story and the story of the Russian Amber Room have always intrigued me. You have 2 very large pieces of art that are missing and priceless and are also very easy to spot but yet both have never been found. I would love to be able to have the money that I could go to Europe and try to find them myself as I love doing research on art like this. Thank you for another very entertaining and informative video.
Amber room burned with the destruction of Königsberg Castle. The Soviets accidentally burned their own treasure and hid it out of embarrassment. This is well known, there is no mystery outside of why people still watch the “history” channel
@@dmcgee3 Have never heard of that one. Thank you for letting me know. Something more for me to look into. Appreciate the info!
1:12, OMG does that woman look pissed off.
I'll bet she made everyone around her miserable
I had the same thought. I think artists of that era doing portraits were probably tuned into how the subject would like to be seen, so I'm guessing she didn't mind and wanted that stern countenance to show.
Wow what a great story! Love the mystery story’s! Another great video! Thank THG, Josh and other amazing writers!
I love mysteries like this! Well done.
Sounds like a job for Father Brown:)
An interesting video. Thank you for making and sharing.
Love your delivery of "Cheese," "Cheese Thief," "Cheese Shop," etc. Truly hilarious.
Always interesting.
Thank you.
Peace 💕🇺🇲
History Guy, can you do one on the “Sherman’s March to the Sea”? Thank you for your channel, it is a much needed channel.
Fascinating, mysterious, exciting, compelling and educational... history as presented by The History Guy!
Don't you just love it when people think the can automatically remember a case's detail? Therefore, no need to write it down. I think that's funny. Thanks for another great video.
Intriguing!
Antiques road Show. A novice painting of the Titanic.......but it was painted on the back of a menu from the famous ship wreck. Value? Lots! “Monuments Men”does a fine job covering this.
Epic - hats off to THG!
thanks
I don't know if any of you are familiar with the headless painting known as "the origin of the world", which is hanging in the Musee D'Orsay in Paris; it appears that at some point someone apparently removed the head of the female figure from the painting, but the missing piece of the painting purportedly turned up a few years ago (though the identification and authentication is controversial). I am intentionally not giving you too many details so that it won't spoil the surprise when you go look it up yourselves.....🤔😯😲
Thank you. Yes: I did indeed enjoy this episode. I rather love unsolved mysteries and stories featuring police-bungling. Somehow ... perversely satisfying.
Hello and Good Morning THG
From Chicago heights Illinois
There is a rumor that the missing piece is hidden behind the bookcase of a knowledgeable bow-tie wearing RUclipsr.
I Love History!
Yodakis is a mighty fine name!
Wow, how interesting. I wonder where it went...
It’s no wonder Hergé- the creator of the Tintin comics - always showed the Belgian police as incompetent buffoons.
Bwah-hah-hah! Yes: Thomson and Thompson in English, "Dupont et Dupond" in French. This would very nicely fill out a hundred plot-lines in a fictional "Missing Tin-Tin Book".
I've never heard of this before. Thank you. What a true mystery.... that deserves to be remembered.
Best part of waking up is history Guy in your cup
Surely pirates must have been involved, because all good stories...
Beer
Because no good story ever started out with a salad.
@@dukecraig2402 Bwah-hah-hah!
It’s Saint Bavo’s Cathedral. Not Bravo’s.
Interesting.
I have often wondered about the amount of art that was stolen during the war that was never returned.
In my own theories some of it was used to buy the freedom or lack of prosecution of certain highly placed individuals such as Captains of Industry from the 3rd Reich.
The art forever disappeared into private collections.
There's also the art collection that was pilfered from a museum, which Boston mobster Whitey Bulger was presumed to have had a hand in, but he went to his grave without revealing any secrets.
@@goodun2974 i did not know about that one.
It is said stolen art is a form of currency in certain circles.
It would be cool to delve into the mysterys.
@@shawnr771 in March of 1990, 13 works worth hundreds of millions of dollars were stolen from the Gardner museum in Boston, including works by Vermeer, Rembrandt, Manet and Degas. None have been recovered. The thieves were disguised as police officers; mobster Whitey Bulger had cops in Boston on his payroll, and also had IRA ties, and one theory is that the art went to Ireland or may have been used as payment for guns and explosives.
@@goodun2974 Most interesting.
@@shawnr771 And then there is the mystery behind a painting hanging in a Paris museum, known as " the origin of the world", which is headless; and about a decade ago, another painting that purports to be the "missing" head was discovered. Lots of controversy surrounding this one.
THG Needs to do for next April the History of the Fallen Maddonna with the Big ... (Allo Allo)
Sorry, I'm using it to keep the shed door shut so they can't have it back.
Might try using it for a shed door
Yeah, from Belgium! 👍
Interesting!♡ 👍
Sadly, it must have been destroyed. I don't see how something that well known could have been hidden for so many years.
Hear about the Nazi's son who lived a long life with a German apartment full of stolen works?
@@constancemiller3753 Yes I remember.
Someone may have no idea what they have and may not care.
Nah, the only thing certain about this case is that it's some greedy rich guy's fault
Or the police. Since it was a national treasure, they should have sought its recovery first and foremost, then gone after the theif.
Nice nod to Bob Ross THG! Hmmm....Cheese Thief, eh? Well, no wonder the Cheese Shop had no Cheddar.
A whodunit to beat all!
One day that stolen art 🎨 work will be found.
I think it was taken by the Guy in a bow 🙇♂️ tie 👔👓
Hmm.. we could really use some Just Judges right now.
I love mysteries.
Over 400 years old?!?
If the guy who says he is the only one who knew where the painting was also happened to be an aspiring artist, could he maybe have painted over it to hide it?
11:58 Found it!
No justice.
Maurice Leblanc???!!! Arsene Lupin!!! I love him! :)
"And did paint themselves to be Gods"
Not Saint Bravo, Saint Bavo. 😸
Sounds like it's probably buried the the church graveyard.
They have to try using ground penetrating radar it's buried near a bush or tree next to a public easement hope they have a photo or map from when it was stolen
This isn’t the only time a painting was stolen. Apparently, in the 1910s the Mona Lisa was stolen from the Louvre by an Italian nationalist who wanted revenge on Napoleon and his conquest of Italy. The only difference is that the Mona Lisa was found.
Allegedly. There is still doubt among some that that is the "actual" Mona Lisa. It's an interesting rabbit hole to go down.
And before the theft hardly anyone knew what it was, after that is was a rock star in the press and became a household word.
@@kbrock9146 , I've seen the Mona Lisa in the Louvre and found it underwhelming. The Impressionists, however, are another matter entirely ---- you cannot really appreciate Renoir, Monet, Manet and the others until you see them in person. They are magnificent.
@@goodun2974 yeah, the theft and disappearance has nothing to do with any of that.
Hello. Do we know whose royal face (to our left of Van Eyck) was replaced by another's? Thank you.
That is a great mystery!
(I say it's sealed up in some wall somewhere. Just sayin)
Should have called in Hercule Poirot 😇
Anyone looked in the attic?
Saint “Bravo”? Not “Bavo”?
13 letters ✉
I confess, I stole it but I mistakenly let it get sold at an estate sale.
Somebody call Nicholas Cage, we've got another one on our hands!
Back in the Saddle again
You are talking about when the church was the supreme judge ruling over countries. Figures the Vatican didn't like a painting in a church depicting progression from Adam and Eve to their being judges ruling over the populous not the Vatican.
Could D U A mean Deutschland Uber Alles?
55th, 8 May 2022
Hercule Poirot would have been able to find it.
The opening needs to be shorter
I bet Ghent was a great place to go to sign a treaty... Who's the pregnant woman on the upper right? Good segment!
I'm pretty sure that's Eve. And that's Adam on the upper left.
Hidden on Oak Island. Lol
Algorithm
It’s St. Bavo not Bravo. There is no R in it. I would have used sawn instead of sawed. I loved St Bavo’S when we went to Europe. Ghent is beautiful and worth stopping on your way back from Bruges. Brugge is worth days and days of sightseeing.
Bwahahaha
Head of Ukrainian secret service will have it stashed somewhere.
Fascinating!