Historian Reaction - Extra History's World War 1 - Part 1
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How ironic that 'The War to End All Wars' was in fact the catalyst of many others. Then again, is it really irony when it was inevitable?
The War to End All Wars, it was not, but it was indeed the War to end an Era.
It's insane I think about how the first world war laid the grounds for the second and as a result of the second with the development of nuclear bombs if the third world war is a nuclear one then that is also irresponsibility of the first world war and just to think about how long a fuse that is is a little remarkable
@@DanteGrey history is a domino effect, you can make that argument for the American Revolution as the start of the path to WW1
especially when the leaders for the Treaty of Versailles didn't study Roman or Carthaginian history.
@@mauddib696 maybe. The American Revolution inspired the various revolutions in France during the late 18 through the 19th centuries.
Extra History, started watching Extra Credits for game design, stayed for the history and mythology.
Funny story, their first history story was when Creative assembly sponsored them to do a history video on the Second Punic war and it just expanded from there. It's a running joke from the fandom that one of the worst Total War Games on launch, Rome II, to come out ever led to one of the best history series on RUclips.
I was there for game design, I was full fan when EH came to be. Now, I am fan of... none of those.
Extra Credit's double header on Spec Ops The Line is some good shit
@@emPtysp4ce The game design videos. Yeah, they're awesome! The one from Spec Ops or the role of the player. That one is good too. Or game intros, comparing skyrim intro with mw3 intro.
@@XanathosZero I agree. Their BFV “You didn’t choose to be a nazi” video is where they lost me. Their condescending response to people’s justified criticism of that video and downward trend in video quality just expedited that.
They did a series on Bismarck that I can highly recommend!
A fascinating character, but I suppose he was a pita for everyone who had to work with him^^
Bismarck had a plan! Bismarck always had a plan!
both the man & the ship.
Bismark's series (the politician) was great, and I believe it should be watched before the seminal tragedy series, but together with it. as both are linked. When Bismark dies, the seeds of the seminal tragedy are sown.
a bit like the Sengoku series should be watched just before watching Admiral Yi's
or, to a lesser extent, Kusrow's before Justinian's and Justinian's just before Suleiman's (this last one is more about thematics and comparison than actual follow up series)
Stalin was already a revolutionary before WWI, Imperial Russia was also unstable prior to the war. So the revolution was still possible, and Stalin still could have gained power. While WWI was not inevitable, it was likely. The tensions created by Bismarck, and Wilhelm, still existed. The assassination in Sarajevo, was not the first crisis, that might have lead to war. With the tensions still existing, more crisis’ were inevitable, any of which could lead to war.
@@LiamDennehyeverything Bismarck was unstable, and required a man of his ability. Bismarck never looked for someone of his ability, instead he went nepotism.
8:00 I've always wondered why Germany was dealt such a heavy blow in the Treaty of Versailles and why they felt so slighted...NOW I understand.
If the Germans had won, what kind of treaty do you think they would have imposed.
Extra history is still good, but it has not been the same since Dan left.
Any idea why he left?
@@cobbil conflict with his producer if im not mistaken
@@cobbil There were a lot of reasons I think
Daniel Floyd left basically because of the heavy atmosphere in EC workplace. Since there was a sexual harassment scandal involving the show's main writer James Portnow, an investigation was conducted internally, and the problem solved without disclosing any details of how the resolution was reached or what actually happened. This led many of the staff to leave the show, and after some months Dan also left, understandably because the atmosphere was not bad only for him, but for his wife Carrie, who also worked with him in EC.
Honestly yeah
~13:00 Otto von Bismarck got his own series of 6 episodes on the extra credits channel a while back (as of 2021)
Not only in terms of politics and power the great war changed incredibly, but the biggest culture shock must have been technology.
Just think about it: Over a span of roughly 30 years, we went from fighting on horseback and transmitting messages by pigeons to the Enigma and Fissile Bombs. From the first somehow useable airplanes made out of wood and cloth to the first jet engines. From artillery that basically was just a more refined version of what was used hundreds of years prior to V2 Rockets. And so on and so forth.
War is one of the greatest catalysts for new technology
war is good for business what can we say, humans are a competitive people and when we have something to lose, we tend to work alot harder so as to be the "best" its both a great advantage for humanity, and our greatest curse, because of it, we will always seek to excel over others and compete with each other. its why we have the olympics. everyone wants to prove they are the best, and some do. It also however creates conflict and negative feelings and tends to make the winners believe they are better than everyone else because they won, which leads to oppression and more conflict.
Imagine being one of the oldest people at the time let’s say 100 years old, you went from people having single shot muskets to revovers , then lever action, bolt action rifles, machine guns and semi auto pistols to as you said planes to huge destroyer ships.. it must have been a giant change
Thanks for this great analysis and commentary. Be warned though, the next few episodes are truly heartbreaking...
Extra History have a uniquely empathetic and human way of telling these accounts. I couldn't get through this series without crying.
10:51. From a little I read about Nicholas, it was described that he was a good father and husband but a terrible ruler.
I think this and most if not all of Extra History videos should be played in classrooms. They are that good. What do you all think?
Their Bismarck series is really worth watching too.
Extra History is awesome, and this is easily my favorite of their series. Can't wait to see you watch the rest!
When you realize Franz Ferdinand’s death is arguably the most influential death in human history.
Disagree, Caesar’s and Jesus’ deaths were far more influential.
@@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv Alexander's death was far more impactful than Caesar's. A functional Greek Empire might have swallowed Rome instead of the other way around.
It's always fun watching some older videos where he is celebrating hitting 10K subscribers.
I would recommend the South Seas Bubble, Sengoku Jidai and Punic Wars series EH did as well. Loved this channel and have been a Pateon of them since they first started extra history
Extra History’s videos on the lead up to WW1 are the best I’ve ever seen. Covers everything it needs to without jumping down rabbit holes or leaving too much out and the chilling way the final episode ends.
First extra history reaction; beginning of a beautiful friendship
Okay, I am very well exited to see you react on their other videos because their art style is very nice, the stories are interesting and informative and their video quality is very great overall!
What George V and Nicholaus II did reminds me a lot of what I and my cousin did as kids! We looked so similar that no one in our family could distinguish us, so one day we both dressed in identical clothing just to mess with them!
I love your additions to already excellent RUclips series. This series helped me to understand the complicated and sometimes 'why' of the beginnings of WWI. I have already seen all the video reaction to this series but thought to comment on the first.
This is way too late since I am a newish subscriber but at the beginning when you were talking about genealogy, it reminded me about how my circumstances would cause problems for any future generations as the records starts with me…Adopted and have no record of my birth or birthparents.
Bismark: just think of what this could lead to. Some damn fool from nowhere could start a stupid conflict that would end up with the military dominoes of the whole planet coming down onto each other.
Kaiser: pfft, you really think all these alliances to everybody could end up with all of those alliances coming to fruition with a massive war?
So sorry I didn't know about yoyr channel earlier. That prize - having someone who knows how to efficiently research genealogy spend time on one's family- is wonderful.
So glad you're reacting to this, I LOVE this channel. They made a GREAT series on politics a few years ago that's absolutely worth watching :)
I have just found this channel and it is definitely the best channel I have come across for history, i sub'ed right away.
thank you so much for all the work you have put into your videos
Greetings from Denmark
Thank you so much, Shepsky! Glad to have you.
Awsome! I was expecting this so much!!
i love this channel. So glad you are reacting to their content. Specifically this series is one of my favourites
Extra History is an amazing channel. Epic History TV also has a great WWI series that's in a completely different style to this one.
Just saw this and you make mention of reaching 10k and only 4 months later you have 154k. Awesome. Enjoying the videos.
This is one of my favorite series of Extra History.
I'm watching this for like the kajillionth time and im still not bored of it. I wish you still offered genealogy services, I wanna know about all parts of my heritage, especially due to recent family events
Nice video:congrats on 14k subscribers
You should really do the Potato Famine series they did. I learned so much about that.
My great grandfather personally tracked our family line all the way down to the 1400s when the abbys started keeping common birth records
He told stories of pencle etching weathered gravestones to read the names of family members hundreds of years old in England
Amazing stuff
Ok who the hell would dislike this man's hard work
SMH. Some people just want to sow the seeds of anarchy and watch the world burn.
@@pattonpending7390 u are right
Hard work?
Extra History is simply one of the best YT channels. I cannot recommend ENOUGH their series on the "south sea bubble", hilarious and utterly fascinating.
Weird to think that this series is nearly a decade old
Been combing through your videos as of late. See, Ive grown up in Tennessee, and education sucks. Im 18 and I never knew there WAS a Russian revolution, nor that Rasputin was anyone other than that one guy in that one song. Learned so much through your videos. Keep it going.
Congrats on 100k
What a great prize, the offer of time is a resource which is without peer. I hope the lucky winner gets some real insight into where they came from.
Great pick and you have to watch the extra history on Bismark, as it is also just the story of how this one man forged Germany7 with Iron and Blood.
There was a pretty good BBC Drama about the events leading to WWI called "37 Days" at least, i think it was pretty good, watched it 7 years ago. 8.1 on IMDB
I love their series on Admiral Yi and John Snow.
I just watched your Black Adder video and was going to suggest you watch this mini-series from xtra history, I think it's a wonderful series that handles this part of history very well.
In his excellent Hardcore History series on WW1, Dan Carlin described the conflict as "19th century sensibilities coming face to face with 20th century weapons"
big fan of your videos
I must stay that the fact of being french with Polish roots hype me up for the giveaway
Small point of contention - it wasn’t thousands of states that Germany was formed out of in the 19th century, that was the heyday of the Holy Roman Empire - There were 39 independent German states, including Prussia and Austria, after the Napoleon Wars to when the unification happened. After Napoleon, hundreds of wee states coalesced, or using the right word, mediatised into bigger states.
I think Bismarck is the most defining moment in the 20th century because without him there is no Germany.
hmm 19th century... hmm
@@cyboot214 you know what I mean lol
@@slayden2737 yes and he was still influential in the 20th ^^
Hi your the best teacher my Mrs roderts tanks for all the information to my test.
If you want to know about WW1 you need to watch every video on the Great War channel. That channel should be required material at every school. It was done by Indy Neidell who you would know from Sabaton History. There is also a WW2 channel running weekly episodes right now.
The Extra History release *is* a valid introduction to this field.
*Of course* it's *way* more complex, there are factors ranging from diplomatic misunderstandings to subterfuge to deeply suppressed psycho-sexual tensions (Looking a you here Field Marshall Count Franz Xaver Josef Conrad von Hötzendorf, head of the K.u.K. military in '14...) in a both disturbingly modern and utterly anti-modern world.
There's also a ton of fields of tension, international, as well as ideological and intra national. that fuelled this, let's call it the apex of the fin-de-siecle, ranging from "simple" international things like the Anglo-German discussions leading eventually to nothing with the British Empire having to face the new realities by having to step out of their comfortable niche of Splendid Isolation into an profoundly unnatural alliance with the French (it might seem perfectly normal today when we look at the World Wars but the Anglo-French détente and later entente was a change in balance of the Powers *so* seemingly unnatural that nobody ever thought about before it happened) and, even more utterly unthinkable was the aligning of Russia, already in a precarious alliance with the French to finance it's military reforms after the humiliation of 1904/05, with the British Empire, it's old rival of the Crimean War and ever the residual threat to all the British possession in Asia and most importantly to India, crown jewel of the Empire, via it's black sea and Central Asian expansion, the "Great Game" of the two powers manoeuvring and fighting proxy wars (the Russian perception of the war with Japan, an alley of the British, was such) and occasionally coming dangerously close to open war, like the embarrassing event when the Russian Baltic Fleet, having been despatched to shore up the situation in Asia in 04/05, in a paranoid fit sank British trawlers because they where perceived to be Japanese torpedo boats.... in the North Sea....
Had the Admiralty not reacted in calm this could very well have thrown Britain into a war with it's old Enemy Russia on the side of it's new ally Japan.
Then there are things like not renewing the 1887 Reinsurance Treaty with Russia (essentially a new version of "the Three Black Eagles", a reactionary alliance of sorts of Germany, the K.u.K. Empire and Russia to keep the Balkan issues in check...) by Germany in 1890 because Wilhelm had just fired it's chief architect (this is also the source of the "damn thing in the Balkans" quote) and was in the process of forming his own foreign policy... a wrack that led to the *Daily Telegraph Interview* during the Great Boer War among other embarrassing events.
But we should *also* consider the facts that, in spite of all these events and tensions, the Powers had managed to defuse every single debacle that could have lit the fuse - the Agadir Incident '11, the First Moroccan Crisis in '05/'06, the Russo-Japanese War and subsequent Revolution in `04/`05, the Bosnian Crisis of `08 and so on and so forth.
There was a pretty profound believe that all these other "War in Sight Crises" (an aptly named early one of these in 1875) would blow over, like all the others that had popped up over the times and *not* escalate into a Great European War that *everyone* , most of all the assorted General Staffs, was aware (contrasting to the cliched perception of the times espoused by less informed people and media today) would either be a quick war or a dragged out bloodbath, in any case a *horribly bloody affair* , because, again in the face of some pop-cultural perceptions, everyone *knew* what massed machine guns and pneumatic repeating artillery would cause on a modern battle field.
They just had seen those in action in the First and Second Balkan Wars of 1912 and 1913 when the minor Powers of the Balkan Peninsula first drove the Ottomans out of most of the Peninsula and subsequently engaged in bloody in-fighting over the spoils - it is not *not* entirely wrong, if a little chauvinistic, to call the Great War *The Third Balkan War* as the Serbians do...
Before I continue here endlessly (this was one of the topics I had a lot to do with in university), let me suggest a list of reading on the topic here =>
For starters *The Guns of August* by Barbara W, Tuchman is still a magnificent introductory text, if not current in some fields.
*Dreadnought - Great Britain, Germany and the coming of the Great War* by Robert K. Massie is a worthy successor to Tuchman and goes into farther detail and is more current (and a magnificent read).
Another great very recent title on this field is the magnificent Christopher Clarke's (Pour le Mérit '19) *The Sleepwalkers - How Europe Went to War in 1914* is treads the same gound as *Dreadnought* but with altogether different priorities.
Also by Clarke *Iron Kingdom - the Rise and Downfall of Prussia 1600 to 1947* is more of a longue durée treaty on one of the key players and the cultural background.
Another great title by Tuchman is *The Proud Tower: A Portrait of the World Before the War, 1890-1914* which deals with a similar field as *Dreadnought* and other yet to be listed but with a slightely different focus.
Margaret McMillan's *The War that Ended Peace* is one of the titles that deals with the Interbellum in a "diplo-sociological" way, worth a read.
Wolfram Pyta's *Hindenburg. Herrschaft zwischen Hohenzollern und Hitler* is a seminal work on the role of Otto von Beneckendorff and Hindenburg but sadly it's only available in German...
*Rites of Spring: The Great War and the Birth of the Modern Age* by Modris Eksteins dives deep into the cultural semiotics and cultural icons created by and present before the war.
And so much more.
Though I'll leave you with a youtube suggestion, less for possible reactions, it's way too much, but for your own edification:
*The Great War - the First World War week by week* by, guess who, Indy Neidell and Spartacus Olsen who are currently doing the Second World War weekly.
It's a treasure trove of detail and little stories along the greater history and it has spin-offs and whatnot - it's really cool , but it *does* take a whole lot of time.
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
Kinda funny that Bismarck would turn out to not get ‘an episode of his own’ rather a series of 6 episodes.
My favorite series from extra history is there series called "Hunting the Bismarck". You should react to it.
This guy would be the best history teacher
New subscriber here. Been catching up and enjoying your catalog very much. I am pretty well versed in WWII and events after. I want to get better educated on WWI. What are some good books to read?
A World Undone is the best and most comprehensive I’ve read. The Great War channel on RUclips is excellent as well and uses that book as a main source.
@@VloggingThroughHistory Thank you for the recommendations. I’m gonna get a copy tomorrow. I’ve always had a base line understanding of WWI but became more interested when you added more context as to how it could have been prevented in one of your reaction videos.
@@VloggingThroughHistory What is your opinion about Sleepwalkers?
I like this channel
I will love to see you react to the oversimplified Russian revolution video
Would you entertain the idea of doing genealogy research for an agreed upon rate? Would be very interested if so. Recently found your channel (via. Oversimplified) and am loving your content 👍
In my opinion the way Germany was treated sets the antagonism which led to the first world war. France and UK felt threatened, and after they slapped Germany down, it was back to business as usual: taking other's territories.... the same thing they were coming down on Germany and Austria-Hungary for. They had no issue with taking others' territories, so long as it was them who was the one doing it.
Back then, Russia was horrifically poor, and in some places hopelessly crime ridden. In Moscow for example, there was an incident where a journalist was assaulted and had his clothes stripped off him by robbers. When he came to a policeman for help, the latter literally booted him into a puddle for bothering him at night. That attitude wasn't restricted to that policeman either.
The flag they are showing is the one used in two periods: the German Confederation (1848-1866); and present-day Germany (1949 to present). The flag for the period being discussed in this video is one with three horizontal bands - black, white and red, top to bottom. This was used by the North German Confederation (1867-1871), then the German Empire (1871-1918).
At LAST someone watches this one!
i have over the last 5 years or so come to see both world wars not as seprate events but as a second 30 years war just this time fought on a goble scale
Absolutely they are connected.
@@VloggingThroughHistory it goes further then just conection though in the Anglophone world we like to think of piece coming after nov11 1918thr druth is Europe didnt realy seed anything like piece for another 6 years between the Russian Civil war, the internal stugles between left and right in Germany, the Greco-Turkish war, The German entaglements in the Baltics and the independence wars in Poland an Irland war was still endemic in Europe just the logic of violance had changed. the quiate period between 1924 and 1933 was still undergurded by a huge amount of violance in Germany and Russia which exploded in to world war beging in 1939 and with the entrence of Japan in 1941.
4:11
Yes, Star Wars prequels.
Listening to this in Jan 2023. Anyone else shiver when he mentions inflation of oil?
Another one you should check out is history matters.
This guy is so underrated. I’ve been binge watching his videos for the past couple weeks
18:00 just so ya know it is a multi part series and the vid you watched is just part 1 if I remember correctly
That would be why this says part 1. :)
Did they say "wasn't in the nature of ALEXANDER II to accept a Parliment"?
He actually was trying to include popular representation in his government when he was assassinated. It was his Grandson, Nicholas II, who disliked having a Parliment, or Duma as it was called, in 1905.
11:50 HOLY CRAP I had no idea that LITERALLY every European monarchy at the time were LITERALLY related. holy smokes.
For centuries they were trading daughters amongst themselves like Pokemon cards.
Sounds like Mr. Truman...Small boy with big power
No mention of Conrad von Hotzendorrf? He's kind of a major reason for WW1 ;) Maybe in Part 2 ...
can you check out extra history about the swedish empire??
17:19 I think they called Nicholas II, Alexander II by mistake
Recomend watch, and maybe react to Fall of Eagles. Is a series of 13 episodes from 1974. Show the collapse of three great European dynasties: the Romanovs, the Habsburgs, and the Hohenzollerns. If i remember well it begins at the time of bismarck uniting germany end ends right when "the Eagles fall". Even has Patrick Stwart as Lenin.
Its a tragedy in both modern and ancient sense with the plot of Greek tragedy.
In order for WW1 to have been avoid it the leadership of the armies of the time should have really not be that eager to beat eachother up with all that new tech available,for as we know the advancements in war tech (unfortunately) need a testing ground...
100% true. This was a big reason why things went south in July 1914
I saw a documentary called "Vicky's Children" or something like that, about the last decades of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th, and one thing that IS exceptionally obvious there is that all the men look... exactly the same. It doesn't help of course that the fashion of the day was long beards, so also the Swedish king Oscar II was almost indistinguishable from the others. One thing I remember from the documentary is that everyone HATED Wilhelm II who was exceptionally bad at socializing and an egomaniac (apparently; with the description the documentary gave I would almost suspect he had ADHD or Autism). The only people who talked to him was the Danish princesses who had to act as middlemen in a lot of unofficial diplomacy for years.
pls do punic wars from extra history
It was Walpole. :)
Regarding Bismarck's predictions -- it didn't take a genius to guess, that the Balkans would be the source of the next great political crisis. It was a powderkeg, just like the Middle East is today. What set Bismarck and a few other perceptive men (like Piłsudski) apart from their contemporaries, is that they realised that this may lead to a conflict that would engulf much of Europe.
Extra History great channel, the Bismarck series was brilliant + Crusades
I agree :D
"Bismarck has a plan, Bismarck always has a plan!" and "Why let [insert negative statement here] get in the way of a good Crusade!" are two of my favorite recurring statements of the channel.
I do miss Dan's Narrative style though...
"Fear is the mindkiller"
obviously its too late for me to join the giveaway, but im curious. im adopted and we know next to nothing about my birth family
do you think you would still be able to figure out my family history?
I would love to see him reacte to scp 4217 contain the Bismarck.
Hey idk if you have reacted to this but if you haven’t could you react to the Cold War oversimplified
Interesting
Extra Credits and Simple History are really great channels!
Also Yarnhub
Germany-Too big for Europe, to small for the world
france and the UK were on the loosing street regarding colonies as well, right?
Check out "history buffs" channel if you haven't already. He reviews/critiques the historical accuracy or inaccuracy of movies.
Ummm, what about the Crimean war, it had: France, Britain, Sardinia, Russia, and Ottoman Empire.
16:37
The video game Battlefield One, which takes place during this war, had an intro section which really did a great job balancing being a first person shooter game with demonstrating the absolute hell this war was.
I doubt that the Middle East wouldn't be carved up by Europeans as Oil was going to replace coal at some point. WW1 just highlighted how much better a fuel it was for industry and machines.
Ww1 is an example of why autocracy is so flawed
i suggested the resource war
It was Nicholas the second at the beginning of the war not Alexander the second, his grandfather
Who said Alexander II?
You looked at a lot of the other things that don’t happen without WW1, I can easily think of others.
There likely is no US Federal Reserve created. There is no Great Depression in the United States because that inflationary boom was caused by the Fed trying to prevent English gold reserves from fleeing the country due to the Bank of England returning to the gold standard price from before the war rather than allowing the Pound to inflate to a proper level.
There likely is no worldwide Spanish Flu epidemic as that was really spread worldwide by soldiers returning to their homelands after the war. Conceivably there is no rise of viral and bacterial research the way we see today and also conceivably if that is the case, there is no Covid-19 pandemic.
Prussia and the german states were already in a defensive alliance and Prussia was already a great power, Italy actually disrupted the balance more so, and austria had been a power for a long time, it didn't have some glorious rise like germany did, it actually had the start of a decline.
1.52 Imma stop you right there. WW1 was a catastrophe in the West...for the western powers that had colonies (and were significantly weakened some of them ravaged).
For the USA, it was the war that propelled it to great power status, and for Eastern Europe it created many nations, completed some (including Romania where i live) and WW1 is therefore generally seen as a good thing (except for Hungary, Austria, Bulgaria, etc)