My video on the history of Georgia ruclips.net/video/K34XQUzrrpI/видео.html Hi this is Epimetheus! This is my second channel where I will be posting additional content. Some will be addendums to videos over on the main channel(Epimetheus) like this video. And some less formal or short form content. Subscribe here let me know the type of stuff you would like to see here in the future.
Whom knows its already happening. Like the small places realy had respect wanted to stay neutral cus of a disastrous history. But then the fools appear aggain like transgressors. Quran has manny rules that are great for all neutral vieuwers.
Every kingdom start from very small nation until they conquered many places and become big. Like example China has hundreds kingdom every kingdom have ambition to unite the China. Same for Turk, Mongol, Arabian Kingdom, Russia, and British.
4:28 there are 2 Abkhazian peoples nowadays. 1.Georgians from Abkhazia who have their own subculture as every other region in Georgia. 2. Apsuas/Adyghe people who are one of the Circassian tribes. People who want independence are this Apsuas. Nobody really knows how they got to live in Abkhazia cause they are northern caucasian people. Most popular theory for Georgian and western historians is that they imigrated from north in 14th to escape mongol wrath or to raid Georgian kingdoms(wich was what the other north caucasian people were doing at that time).
None of Georgian historians doubt that Abasgs that appear in 1st-2nd AD are proto-Apsua/abkhaz. That's the date of major ethnic shift in that region, documented by greeks Flavius Arrian and Claudius Ptolemy. Hence, even they are originally from North Caucasus, they branched off from proto-Circassians(Adygh) in early time, and they culture is more Georgian than Northern, not the language though.
@@far1581 Nope they are also culturally same with Circassians. Abkhaz culture is based on Nart Epics and Apsuara code (which is the same thing with Circassian Khabze). Saying "Culturally Georgian" is that basically ignoring Abkhaz culture. So its nonsense. That's why Abkhaz people in diaspora never classified under the Georgians but always with Circassians.
@@bthn8401 we are not saying Apsuas are Georgians. We are saying that Apsuas are not native to Abkhazia. Historicly Abkhazians were Georgians and Abkhazia had Georgian majority in population untill the ethnic cleansing in the 90s. Yes Apsuas are related to circassians and where are circassians from? North caucasus.
Abkhazian Muslims did not deported from the Ottoman border. They deported into the Ottoman border; like Circassians. Their numbers were less than Circassians but still prominent. Today Turkey has the largest Abkhazian diaspora.
there used to be a large Ossetian enclave in Traileti just south of Sth Ossetia that was basically ethnically cleansed by the Georgians after the South Ossetian war in 1991 , it is still visible on pre 1991 ethnic maps of Georgia .No doubt the Ossetians in Sth Ossetia do not want to have the same thing happen to them .
@@grawakendream8980 just google 1980s caucuses ethnic map ,then look for the large Ossetian enclave just below Sth Ossetia and u have it , also when Sth Ossetia was formed the Ossetians wanted this enclave included in the autonomy so there is that map to ,they are all on google just look
@@Lukejb2Butterworth my great grandmother grew up on the village of Elbachi (Elbakiani in Georgian) south of Borjomi, the village is still populated by Ossetians mostly, they just speak Georgian and Ossetian, the rebellion didn’t reach that area in the south, it stayed in the north and the north is where most of the ethnic cleansing happened, but it was a very small fragment of the Ossetian population, and it was to prevent communist influence in Georgia
I was born i russia and am finding out i am half russian or Ukrainian and either Abkhasian or Meskhesian Turk. I was born in 1995 and really wonder how my parents would have gotten together. I was born in moscow too. Also thank you for this video. Very cool and very informative!
Great video, Epimetheus :-) I'm thrilled to hear about surviving Iranian people in Europe - contemporaries to the ancient Greeks, Thracians, Persians, Romans, Goths... - thought they dissolved and eventually disappeared following the fall of the Western Roman Empire. Fascinating that some Alanic heritage seems to be still traceable. 👍🏽
@@mimzim7141 Europe is a subelement to Afroeurasia obviously, so its borders are not fixed. You could add Anatolia depending on your perspective. Alans were also found in Gaul and Iberia, they speak a Indoeuropean language, etc.
The Ossetians might have the most popular pagan movement of any ethnic group. Paganism is now the second largest religion in North Ossetia behind Christianity.
Very informative video. There are some technical and factual mishaps though, but it is understandable that it's difficult to fit in everything in a 9 minute video. One thing that is very important is that the population currently living in Abkhazia and South Ossetia are NOT natives of the land by any means. They were moved to the region by the Soviet Union, as Stalin's plan to Divide and Conquer. USSR did this in all 15 republics that were part of USSR. They would move populations around, to ensure that they would not rebel. They wanted to keep the ethnic hostilities always a possibility. Today's populations of Abkhazia and South Ossetia are forcibly moved people. They removed the Georgians in those regions and housed these other tribes in their lands, thus creating a timebomb that exploded in the 90's. It ensures that Russia always has a foothold and a powerbase in the southern Caucasus. Same in Karabkh region, Same in Crimea and so on.
Yes, it has been said in the video that some of georgian scholars disagree with historians but Abkhazian history is longer than that and share similarities with Georgian's ones.
ოსებზე გეთანხმები, თუმცა შეგიძლია დააზუსტო რა წყაროებზე დაყრდნობით ამბობ, რომ აფხაზები საბჭოთა კავშირმა აფხაზეთში ჩაასახლა ქართველების ნაცვლად. როცა რეალურად პირიქით მოხდა, როდესაც ბერიამ აფხაზები გადაასახლა.
Abkhazians are real and different ethnic group with their unique and beautiful culture just like Georgians and others. They are very much natives of the land. I hope one day peace will come to those regions but 'ignoring others' will not be part of ideology that will bring peace for all.
@@mican3210 Abkhazians are not a different ethnic group. Abkhazians are Georgians, they were kicked out from their homes by USSR and then Russia. People who live there now are not locals or natives. They were imported in by USSR. These are simple historical facts, that USSR was very proud of doing.
Thank you for the video. I as a Georgian will add few things. 1) "South Ossetia" is obsolete instead please use "Tskhinvali Region" and it is not autonomous republic anymore. Secondly Georgians became victims of ethnic genocide in Abkhazia and Tskhinvali Region by Abkazians and Ossetians with aid of Russia. And one more thing you said that sub-Georgian ethnicities Megrelians and Svans moved in Abkhazia after Russians expelled Muslim Abkhazians. Both Megrelians and Svans lived in modern day Abkhazia since ancient times. Gaius Plinius Secundus (Ist century) CE and Arrian of Nicomedia (Ist century CE) and Memnon of Heracela mention tribe of Sanigs who lived in and around Sebastopolis (modern Sukhumi) this are proto-Svans. We have family names such as Sanikidze, Sanikiani, Sanigiani and Sanaia all related to Sanigs. Also Aghathias Scolasticus (VI century CE) describes tribe of Misimians who were also proto-Svan tribe living in Kodori gorge.
Interesting. Was the depopulation more severe in the 1990s civil war compared to the events in 2008? Between the civil war and 2008 did ethnicgenocide take place in the Abkhazia and Tskhinvali Region? (if so to what extent?) Just curious Thanks!
@@epimetheus2249 Depopulation in 90's was immense, not so much in 2008. Prior to war in 1992 in autonomous republic of Abkhazia there were somewhere 250K Georgians and we were in majority with 47% population after the war in 1994 there are 50K Georgians living in Gali district 20% during war of 2008 few thousand Svans left Kodori gorge. Prior to war population of autonomous republic of Abkhazia was 525K now it is approx. 240K. In Tskhinvali region prior to war in 1992 there were 28.5K Georgians. Now there are 4000 Georgian in Akhalgori district. Unfortunately I don't know how much left in 90's and in 2008. What I can say 90's depopulation was much more severe in this region like in Abkhazian AR. As of overall population in 1991 there were approx 100K and now there are 50K
@@epimetheus2249 Besides those - I have not seen such objective and informed video to be honest ever. I must congradulate on this! Really well informed! Interesting note on Adjara - the Aslan was willing for open conflict but because adjarians are Georgians the troops refused to open fire, one of my buddies was soldier in his army; also interesting side note that almost nobody knows - border clashes with Turkey were frequent, despite of not having any kind of conflict
@@napoleonbonaparte4396 What are you talking about? I have seen videos, where Abkhazian separatists and their allies enter Gali and stand on river Enguri.
In February 1921 Democratic Republic of Georgia was attacked and occupied by the Red Army. On February 25, 1921 the Red Army entered the capital Tbilisi and installed a Moscow directed communist government. In April 1922 by way of gratuity to Ossetians (which lived in Georgia at that time) for supporting of Soviet army Lenin created the "South Ossetian Autonomous Oblast" - artificial created district in the hurt of Georgia! Before April 1922 notion "South Ossetia" never existed in the history - Ossetians always has the state on the NORTH SIDE of The Main Caucasian Ridge.
samachablo is occupied by ossetians , and most of them call us occupants ... what kind of brothers are we? while you are brainwashed by north ossetians russian puppets
You forgot to mention that there is a tunnel that connects north osetia to souith osetia(samachablo) that russians built during soviet times; making it the easiest region to reach from the outside. That pos shevardnadze is responsible for its construction.
1 correction. Megrelians and Svans (Georgians) have lived as a majority in Abkhazia for thousands of years. That land was the ancient Georgian land of Colchis first and foremost.
@@mdzymta Look up sanigs and missimians also other stuff such as the duchy of tskhumi. Although majority can't be claimed as we don't have definitive ethnic data .
@@pixistypses5406 yeah, after the exile of abkhazians and mass georgian settlement in abkhazia. but i'm asking about history. not the era of stalin made demographic games
I like how you get to the point and just lay out the important highlights that explain the big picture instead of little details that would require reading books to understand.
For Adjara, it was actually first republic of Georgia who granted autonomous republic status as long as there still lived Muslim Georgians and socialists thought they should have had autonomy. Apart from that, there was really tough situation with Turkey but in the last moment, Muslim elite of Adjara, who were ethnic Georgians, preferred ethnicity and nationality over religion and opted to stay within republic of Georgia rather than being part of Turkey. Therefore, it was kinda like returning the favour from the central government to grant them autonomous status. Later, Soviet Georgia just inherited the legacy. Kinda same for Abkhazia, Abkhazians in 1918 preferred to stay within Georgian borders and somehow to get rid of Russian civil war. When Georgian general Mazniashvili entered the region to defend the borders and take administration responsibilities Abkhaz nobility granted him small cavalry regiment to support the cause. So again, autonomous status was reward for loyality towards Georgian central government. It was Bolsheviks who opposed Georgian rule there. For South Ossetia yes, it was completely made up by Bolsheviks as a reward for Ossetians helping red army annexing Georgia. Although Abkhazia has been separated duchy from Georgian kingdoms in later years, it was still part of Georgian political sphere, divided Georgia was just a common thing throughout 15th-18th centuries. Adjara was part of guria but not all of today's Adjara. Mountainous part was itself part of Samthkhe that was fully annexed. Guria owned just lowland Adjara. Ottomans didn't fully annex Giria itself, it still was nominal vassal of kingdom of Imereti, they just detached current Adjarian territory. Historically, Abkhazian territory also increased in size towards core Georgia. Up to Sokhumi, the capital of Abkhazia, it was considered duchy of Odishi ( modern day Mingrelia). Later Abkhaz dukes conquered territory from Odishi dukes, you can see this on many European maps of 16-18 centuries if you don't believe in Georgian sources.
This comment might be not seen but that is important to mention that the Abhazians are not sub ethnic group of Geaorgians. Some georgians say that There is two type of Abhazians one is Georgian Abhazians which was never mentioned in any historical documents as georgian ethnic group. Second one are Apsua invaders from north those are living right now in Republic of Abhazia. But the right thing is that Abhazians/Apsua people are aboriginal people of that region. They belong to Adigo-Abhazian language group. I am my self Circassian(Adiga). And many Circassians fought for freedom of Abhazia, but Russia came and annexed Abhazia. Abhazia must be independent from both Russia and Georgia.
@@epimetheus2249 my classmate is a refugee from abkhazia and i am sad and mad he was kicked out of his home i whish we get them back thanks for the video
Epimetheus 2 don’t you know we have 250000 refugees from abkhazhia, who kicked? They made genocide of Gerogians which is recognized by Russia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_Abkhazia Thanks for video. There are some facts to consider firstly : most Apsuans( what you call apkhazhian) were pagans some of them arrived from North, after that Patriarch of west the Georgia moved From Bijvinta to Kutaisi, also some travelers wrote how apsuans burned Sokhumi in their language they call it Aყva secondly: Dadiani the prince of Odishi started building the wall on the river of kelasuri to defend his principality en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelasuri_Wall. In addition nowadays. The population of South Ossetia (samachablo) is aroud 30000 10000 are Georgians.Thanks for video, you are the best🤝
Russia is the biggest problem in caucasus. These people have similar culture and traditions. There is not supposed to be problem between these people. No Russia = No problem
This is an autonomous Republic and in fact there is no sea coast on the whole territory of Georgia.The places with sea coasts of Georgia belong to other ingigenous peoples of Caucaus. During the exile of Abkhazians to Ottoman lands by Tsarist Russia in the 1800s, some Abkhazians settled in this region, which was Ottoman territory at that time. Currently, Turkish Georgians and Armenians predominate in the population. According to the text of the 1921 Kars Treaty, after the Ottoman Empire, Turkey granted this small region a wide administrative autonomy that guaranteed all the rights of the people and left it to Georgia on the condition that it could trade freely, tax-free, through the port of Batumi
gonna watch soon, but there is another disputed area rn as well, Gareja region which is disputed by georgia and azerbaijan rn. Its very important for Georgia since there are 2 old monasteries of Georgia.
In April 1915, Turkish units supported by Muslim Georgian Laz and Adjarian irregulars attempted a raid on the Black Sea port of Batumi but were repulsed. The same year, Vorontsov- Dashkov sent General Lyakhov to slaughter the Muslim Georgian Laz and Adjarianს as a punishment for their pro-Turkish attitude. Lyakhov ravaged and depopulated the entire Chorokhi valley up to Artvin, in the vicinity of which only 7,000out of a previous population of 52,000 Georgian Muslims were left alive.
South Ossetia has never been an autonomous republic. It was an autonomous oblast during the Soviet period. Today, Georgia has only two autonomous republics, the Autonomous Republics of Abkhazia and Adjara.
@@gamermapper Oh, don’t worry. Russia isn’t going to be there forever, and when that happens, no one’s gonna ask the Ossetians’ opinion on it. They’ll either accept the fact that it’s Georgia or will be politely escorted to North Ossetia.
So Georgia has been sacked 31 times.................. so far. What is the likelihood of it being ransacked again? Is it safe for me to set up in Kutaisi?
Thanks for video. I want to say something about abkhazians origin. Twice is true, i mean today in abkhazia call themselves abkhazians people from north and kartvelian people. For example president of abkhazia aslan bzhania is ethnic Georgian. His surname bzhania is Georgian. Bzha in Georgian language means sun. Also defence minister of abkhazia is ethnic Georgia kishmaria. Also half of abkhazians are Georgians. Other part are adyga circassian people from north caucasus. Their language is afshila adyga circasian language. Abkhazia comes from Georgian region afkhazeti. It always rulled by Georgians, for example anchabadze,bagrationy, shavliani, shervashidze and so. There always lived Georgian speaking people there are hundreds Georgian architecture with Georgian alphabets. In 1990 in abkhazia lived 500 000 people. From them 350 000 were ethnic Georgians. In 1991-93 years 300 000 Georgians were displaced and 30 000 were killed. They did ethnic cleasing. Afkhazeti is Georgia tskhinvali is Georgia. 🇬🇪🇬🇪☝️
You're actually delusional lol. I've went to Georgian cemeteries in Abkhazia and I haven't seen a single Georgian last name who died before 1940. Currently the Abkhaz population is only 245,000 and is only increases. It never was above that. Abkhaz is a completely different language from Georgian. It's clear to me that you yourself never been to Abkhazia, because if you did, you would understand how different it is. You lost your invasion in 1992, no one likes salty losers.
Extremely accurate in regards to creation of separatist region of so called “ south Ossetia” . But Apsua mistakingly called Abkhazians have immigrated to Georgia from northern regions current day Russia
How can you explain that Georgi lasha has “apsuas” name ? Type anywhere georgi lasha’s name meaning and it will tell that it’s Abkhazian. Lasha means bright ,Alashara-light .Stop spreading your bullshit ,bozi
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In Abkhazians language, Abkhazians called themselves Apsua. Just like Circassians call themselves Adigha. Abkhaz and Adigha language is NOT mutually understandable. My father family was deported from Ochamchira region, my mom’s family from Sochi which was Circassian land. They don’t understand each other at all. Just for my curiosity , exactly what part of Russia Abkhazians immigrated from? Because up until mass deportation of Caucasian’s around 1864, Abkhazians were the mejarity. It was during the Georgian butcher Stalin migrellians moved to Abkhazia. After the war they were ASKED😎 to go back to where they came from. part of
i would highly recommend any of you to visit Abkhazia and South Ossetia to see the reality by your own eyes. the rest could not go beyond theoretical assumptions and claims.
The Mongols also used Ossetians against Georgia. Then, when the influence of the Mongols weakened, King George finally expelled the Mongols from Georgia, and pushed the Ossetians to the North Caucasus.
Russians gave Ossetians Georgian (Tskhinvali), Ingushian (Prigorodniy) and Kabarda (Mozdok) lands to Ossetians after local Caucasian peoples had been massacred.
When did Russia exterminate you, if it came to the Caucasus at your request? Was it not you who took part in the genocide of the Circassians? Was it not yours that Stalin and Beria deported entire peoples to Kazakhstan, which was why you increased your territory from their neighbors? Lying, disingenuous bastаrds
In case you didn't know, parts of Chechnya-Ingushetia, Karachay-Balkaria and Kabardino-Balkaria were Georgian during the deportation, so following your logic the Georgians were blamed for their deaths, shut up
I am georgian and i learn something but please do not call it south osetia it is samachablo and also abxazians are georgians as like me others was ok i am thankful and love you from geoegia
I once sneezed, and the noise I made sounded a tiny bit like the word “Abkhazia” Immediately several Georgians teleported into my house to tell me Abkhazia is Georgia. I’d never even heard of it at the time
@@vladikavkazalania1889 💀💀"южная Осетия" это пустой и разрушенны регион, всю населению выгнали и там кроме русских солдат почти некого нету. Кроме того, все города, включая вашу "столицу" имеют грузинские название.
@@vladikavkazalania1889 южная Осетия это просто база России. Посмотри на карту, границы не соответствуют ничему. каждая независимая страна имеет свои паспорта, а граждане колоний типа Абхазии, Донецка, и приднестровье имеют российский паспорт.
@@cagrsarac2042 Laz language belongs to the Kartvelian languages. And Georgian is one of them. Laz is also one of them and the unfortunate thing is that the Kartvelian language speakers like Svan and Mingrelian people identify themselves as Georgians, but Laz people don't, well at least don't anymore. Laz people are in Georgia, but only in the thousands, while there are million Turkey. I want Laz people to be free.
Монголы также использовали осетин против Грузии. Затем, когда влияние монголов ослабло, царь Георгий окончательно изгнал монголов из Грузии, а осетин вытеснил на Северный Кавказ.
modern day abkhazians (Which should be called abazgs and apshiles, ) and ossetians both are north caucasian people this is just simple fact. No one denies this fact not even they... So how the land in south Caucasus belong to "only" north caucasians? The reality is that they don't have enough balls to fight russia for their independence in north caucasus, rather they choose to betray Georgians and take Russian side in the conflicts... So pathetic...
One misconception here is that Abkhazian means Georgian same as Kakhetian means georgian it's just subregional division of Ethnic Georgians or Kartvelians how we call it. However, separatist group who knowdays lives in Abkhazia and is called Abkhazians are not really Abkhazians and in fact, they call themselves Apsuas not Abkhazians, Abkhazian kingdom was created by ethnically kartvelian or simply georgian people, not by Apsuas who imigrated in the region in around 16th century from northen caucasus due to help of Ottomans to destabilize the region, they were both Muslims so basically had help from Muslim Ottomans to immigrate into the region, have a supportive population there and destabilize the region.So, to colcude those so called Apsuas are not indigenous population of Abkhazian region, Abkhazia is a Georgian name, it's Georgians(Kartvelans) who call them Abkhazians while that separatist groups calls themselves Apsuas, so if they really were indigenous population of the region, why they would name it Abkhazia rather than Apsua, it's completely nonsense
Abkhazia is a historical territory of absuas and abazins people. There are several historian sources: Peripl of Evksinsky Pont, 2nd century, Flaviy Arrian. War with Gotes, 6th century, Prokopy Kessarian, book 4, chapters 9-10. The book of knowing of the world, 14th century, De Galonyfontibus. The describing of Mingrelia, 17th century, Arkangelo Lamberty
@@Disciple1963 they will never believe any of this. Utterly brainwashed even though the video is clear and there is documentation. I've lived in Georgia for 7 years and heard this exact phrase verbatim for all 7 of them🙄
@@amysanchez3699 ok. Have youn heard about "mhedrioni"? Search some video in youtube: mhedrioni in megrelia in 1993. There are evidences of their crimes after they left Abkhazia.
I am astounded how much research goes into such potentially polarized topics and still avoids the usual vitriol in the comments. You mist be doing something right.
I think it's fair to point out that Adjara (Batum region as Ottomans and Russians were referring it to it) was among other regions Ottomans were willing to retake. Klarjeti and Samtskhe. To not dwell into unnecessary information, Adjara, Samtkshe and Klarjeti were first part of Russian Empire, then transferred into Transcaucasian Federation. The state was weak and was opportunity for Ottomans to seize those parts. At the end they managed to occupy three of them and were even present near to capital of Georgia. At the end, Federation was dissolved, British occupied Adjara and Ottomans left. At the end of the Republic's days, now Turkey, along with Bolshevik Russia invaded in 1921 and successfully defeating Georgia. As of Kars Treaty, both Russia and Turkey agreed that Russia will take entirety of Georgia (including Batumi and Samtskhe) but Turkey will take Klarjeti which is today's Artvin and Ardahan Regions. As a compromise for not taking Batumi, Russia created Autonomous Republic of Adjara withing Georgia.
There is no such thing as South Ossetia! It’s Inner Kartalinia region in central Georgia where Ossetian refugees (search for “ხიზანი”) have settled in late medieval centuries in various Georgian principalities, such as Samachablo, Dukedom of Qsani (Ksnis saeristao), portion of Dukedom of Racha, etc. The term “South Ossetia” was used first by Tsarist Russians describing Ossetian villages in the illegally annexed eastern Georgian Kingdom of Kartli-Kakheti. Later after the Bolshevik invasion Georgian Communists have created fake and completely artificial Ossetia in the middle of Georgia and made Georgian town Tskhinvali (founded by a Georgian king many centuries ago) a capital city while only around 10% of Ossetians lived there. Now, centuries later so many Russians are fleeing from Western sanctions against Putin (including many of his supporters), that in the future they may try to takeover entire Georgia.
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My video on the history of Georgia
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Hi this is Epimetheus! This is my second channel where I will be posting additional content. Some will be addendums to videos over on the main channel(Epimetheus) like this video. And some less formal or short form content. Subscribe here let me know the type of stuff you would like to see here in the future.
Your videos are absolutely incredible. Great work, hope you get all the attention you deserve soon!
Wow! With the combined two videos, I think you gave more attention to Georgia than half RUclips combined!
Awesome! Hopefully I'll get to visit there one day....eat some good food drink some tasty wine :D
Lol I know right
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I live in Kazakhstan and have visited some Georgian cafés. They are really nice.
You're the best history youtuber. Great art and explanations
Thanks Kayvon! Glad you like my drawings and commentary :)
Please explain in Hindi language 🙏🏻
@@epimetheus2249south ossetia was called "samachablo" before stalin renamed it
Thank you for this video! Very informative and well put together! Got Bless.
small nation constantly being invaded by great empires and still surviving time after time.Every great empire will fall but georgia will remain.
Whom knows its already happening.
Like the small places realy had respect wanted to stay neutral cus of a disastrous history.
But then the fools appear aggain like transgressors.
Quran has manny rules that are great for all neutral vieuwers.
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Every kingdom start from very small nation until they conquered many places and become big. Like example China has hundreds kingdom every kingdom have ambition to unite the China. Same for Turk, Mongol, Arabian Kingdom, Russia, and British.
As a Georgian from Abkhazia, I can say this is surprisingly accurate.
As a Georgian from Georgia, I can also say that this is surprisingly accurate :)
Except he did not mention the thousands of Geos in refugee camps because of this
İs abkhazia gerogia?
@@iosefgunba268 yes it is
@@besara.86 i dont care what a khachapuri head think about abkhazia. İ asked to my fellow country brother.
Dude your content is righteousness, I am always stoked to see a new video from you
Thanks man! Hector Achilles 777 is a great name! :)
@@epimetheus2249 thanks bro!
4:28 there are 2 Abkhazian peoples nowadays. 1.Georgians from Abkhazia who have their own subculture as every other region in Georgia. 2. Apsuas/Adyghe people who are one of the Circassian tribes. People who want independence are this Apsuas. Nobody really knows how they got to live in Abkhazia cause they are northern caucasian people. Most popular theory for Georgian and western historians is that they imigrated from north in 14th to escape mongol wrath or to raid Georgian kingdoms(wich was what the other north caucasian people were doing at that time).
None of Georgian historians doubt that Abasgs that appear in 1st-2nd AD are proto-Apsua/abkhaz. That's the date of major ethnic shift in that region, documented by greeks Flavius Arrian and Claudius Ptolemy.
Hence, even they are originally from North Caucasus, they branched off from proto-Circassians(Adygh) in early time, and they culture is more Georgian than Northern, not the language though.
@@far1581 Nope they are also culturally same with Circassians. Abkhaz culture is based on Nart Epics and Apsuara code (which is the same thing with Circassian Khabze). Saying "Culturally Georgian" is that basically ignoring Abkhaz culture. So its nonsense. That's why Abkhaz people in diaspora never classified under the Georgians but always with Circassians.
As a Georgian, no, this is not true.
@@bthn8401 we are not saying Apsuas are Georgians. We are saying that Apsuas are not native to Abkhazia. Historicly Abkhazians were Georgians and Abkhazia had Georgian majority in population untill the ethnic cleansing in the 90s. Yes Apsuas are related to circassians and where are circassians from? North caucasus.
@@joedenathan4775 რა არ არის მართალი
Thanks again! This was information I had never before heard. Such great artwork, too.
My pleasure! I am glad you like my drawing :D
@@epimetheus2249 not only is it high quality, it adds so much to the presentation. Aces!
Thank you for this video. I am from Hawaii but always enjoyed learning about autonomous regions around the world.
Free the Kingdom of Hawaii
Abkhazian Muslims did not deported from the Ottoman border. They deported into the Ottoman border; like Circassians. Their numbers were less than Circassians but still prominent. Today Turkey has the largest Abkhazian diaspora.
there used to be a large Ossetian enclave in Traileti just south of Sth Ossetia that was basically ethnically cleansed by the Georgians after the South Ossetian war in 1991 , it is still visible on pre 1991 ethnic maps of Georgia .No doubt the Ossetians in Sth Ossetia do not want to have the same thing happen to them .
can you share resources and link to read this
@@grawakendream8980 just google 1980s caucuses ethnic map ,then look for the large Ossetian enclave just below Sth Ossetia and u have it , also when Sth Ossetia was formed the Ossetians wanted this enclave included in the autonomy so there is that map to ,they are all on google just look
They are still there, they just have assimilated.
@@OccasionalMaps no nice try but no most left for Sth Ossetia / Nth Ossetia only a small minority stayed and are assimilated
@@Lukejb2Butterworth my great grandmother grew up on the village of Elbachi (Elbakiani in Georgian) south of Borjomi, the village is still populated by Ossetians mostly, they just speak Georgian and Ossetian, the rebellion didn’t reach that area in the south, it stayed in the north and the north is where most of the ethnic cleansing happened, but it was a very small fragment of the Ossetian population, and it was to prevent communist influence in Georgia
Good Job
Great content!
Excellent video once again Epimetheus.
Thanks Nicholas!
I was born i russia and am finding out i am half russian or Ukrainian and either Abkhasian or Meskhesian Turk. I was born in 1995 and really wonder how my parents would have gotten together. I was born in moscow too. Also thank you for this video. Very cool and very informative!
so sad that russia deported your ancestors
@Isaac23496yes, majority converted from Georgian Christian
There are no meskhetian turks
Thanks the Author for such a objective description of the multifaced issue.
Origins of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics here: ruclips.net/video/uyIx6m_Brhk/видео.html
Great video, Epimetheus :-) I'm thrilled to hear about surviving Iranian people in Europe - contemporaries to the ancient Greeks, Thracians, Persians, Romans, Goths... - thought they dissolved and eventually disappeared following the fall of the Western Roman Empire. Fascinating that some Alanic heritage seems to be still traceable. 👍🏽
I guess saying that this region is in Europe is highly debatable. Specially when Anatolia just south and west of it is considered Asia.
@@mimzim7141 Europe is a subelement to Afroeurasia obviously, so its borders are not fixed. You could add Anatolia depending on your perspective. Alans were also found in Gaul and Iberia, they speak a Indoeuropean language, etc.
Just what I needed answered! How did you read my mind, I love your videos! Thank you Epimetheus
Awesome! Glad I could answer, Thanks Roxasfrevr :)
Like Kosovo, Akhazia and South Ossetia declared independence from Georgia. Georgia should respect these independent states
Did you watch the video?
great video loved it
I am becoming your fan
The Ossetians might have the most popular pagan movement of any ethnic group. Paganism is now the second largest religion in North Ossetia behind Christianity.
Не только у осетин/многие так называемые христиане на самом деле ничем не отличаются от язычников.
У осетин не язычество ! А древняя зороастрийская религия ! ОГНЕПОКЛОННИКИ ! Поклоняются все что создано Творцом ! Природе Небу Огню Воде !
Нет ни какого язычества у нас своя вера в единого Бога, не неси чушь если не разбираешься.
You're back in this channel
Yup
HOpefully will be posting here more regularly, also on the main channel too :)
Informative, Thank you
well done my friend. IF you come to georgia, good wine on me :)
sounds good :)
Great videos . Studied geography at school but still learned a lot.
Very informative video.
There are some technical and factual mishaps though, but it is understandable that it's difficult to fit in everything in a 9 minute video.
One thing that is very important is that the population currently living in Abkhazia and South Ossetia are NOT natives of the land by any means. They were moved to the region by the Soviet Union, as Stalin's plan to Divide and Conquer. USSR did this in all 15 republics that were part of USSR. They would move populations around, to ensure that they would not rebel. They wanted to keep the ethnic hostilities always a possibility.
Today's populations of Abkhazia and South Ossetia are forcibly moved people. They removed the Georgians in those regions and housed these other tribes in their lands, thus creating a timebomb that exploded in the 90's. It ensures that Russia always has a foothold and a powerbase in the southern Caucasus. Same in Karabkh region, Same in Crimea and so on.
Yes, it has been said in the video that some of georgian scholars disagree with historians but Abkhazian history is longer than that and share similarities with Georgian's ones.
ოსებზე გეთანხმები, თუმცა შეგიძლია დააზუსტო რა წყაროებზე დაყრდნობით ამბობ, რომ აფხაზები საბჭოთა კავშირმა აფხაზეთში ჩაასახლა ქართველების ნაცვლად. როცა რეალურად პირიქით მოხდა, როდესაც ბერიამ აფხაზები გადაასახლა.
Abkhazians are real and different ethnic group with their unique and beautiful culture just like Georgians and others. They are very much natives of the land. I hope one day peace will come to those regions but 'ignoring others' will not be part of ideology that will bring peace for all.
@@mican3210 Abkhazians are not a different ethnic group. Abkhazians are Georgians, they were kicked out from their homes by USSR and then Russia. People who live there now are not locals or natives. They were imported in by USSR.
These are simple historical facts, that USSR was very proud of doing.
@@MrSedrack Abkhazians are Georgians reminds me Ukrainians are Russians narrative. Abkhazians not Georgians.
Thank you for the video. I as a Georgian will add few things. 1) "South Ossetia" is obsolete instead please use "Tskhinvali Region" and it is not autonomous republic anymore. Secondly Georgians became victims of ethnic genocide in Abkhazia and Tskhinvali Region by Abkazians and Ossetians with aid of Russia. And one more thing you said that sub-Georgian ethnicities Megrelians and Svans moved in Abkhazia after Russians expelled Muslim Abkhazians. Both Megrelians and Svans lived in modern day Abkhazia since ancient times. Gaius Plinius Secundus (Ist century) CE and Arrian of Nicomedia (Ist century CE) and Memnon of Heracela mention tribe of Sanigs who lived in and around Sebastopolis (modern Sukhumi) this are proto-Svans. We have family names such as Sanikidze, Sanikiani, Sanigiani and Sanaia all related to Sanigs. Also Aghathias Scolasticus (VI century CE) describes tribe of Misimians who were also proto-Svan tribe living in Kodori gorge.
Interesting.
Was the depopulation more severe in the 1990s civil war compared to the events in 2008? Between the civil war and 2008 did ethnicgenocide take place in the Abkhazia and Tskhinvali Region? (if so to what extent?)
Just curious Thanks!
@@epimetheus2249 Depopulation in 90's was immense, not so much in 2008. Prior to war in 1992 in autonomous republic of Abkhazia there were somewhere 250K Georgians and we were in majority with 47% population after the war in 1994 there are 50K Georgians living in Gali district 20% during war of 2008 few thousand Svans left Kodori gorge. Prior to war population of autonomous republic of Abkhazia was 525K now it is approx. 240K. In Tskhinvali region prior to war in 1992 there were 28.5K Georgians. Now there are 4000 Georgian in Akhalgori district. Unfortunately I don't know how much left in 90's and in 2008. What I can say 90's depopulation was much more severe in this region like in Abkhazian AR. As of overall population in 1991 there were approx 100K and now there are 50K
@@epimetheus2249 Besides those - I have not seen such objective and informed video to be honest ever. I must congradulate on this! Really well informed!
Interesting note on Adjara - the Aslan was willing for open conflict but because adjarians are Georgians the troops refused to open fire, one of my buddies was soldier in his army; also interesting side note that almost nobody knows - border clashes with Turkey were frequent, despite of not having any kind of conflict
@@napoleonbonaparte4396 What are you talking about? I have seen videos, where Abkhazian separatists and their allies enter Gali and stand on river Enguri.
@@napoleonbonaparte4396 I have seen it in tv in Georgian documental film about the war. Separatists were on Enguri on 30.09.93
In February 1921 Democratic Republic of Georgia was attacked and occupied by the Red Army. On February 25, 1921 the Red Army entered the capital Tbilisi and installed a Moscow directed communist government. In April 1922 by way of gratuity to Ossetians (which lived in Georgia at that time) for supporting of Soviet army Lenin created the "South Ossetian Autonomous Oblast" - artificial created district in the hurt of Georgia! Before April 1922 notion "South Ossetia" never existed in the history - Ossetians always has the state on the NORTH SIDE of The Main Caucasian Ridge.
I am ossetian and my motherland is georgia 🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪♥️ all ossetians and georgians are brothers
Thanks 👍 lets hope reletions between Georgians and Ossetians will become better
Lets hope other ossetians are like you
so lose your language, because neither Georgia nor Russia will save her 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
samachablo is occupied by ossetians , and most of them call us occupants ... what kind of brothers are we? while you are brainwashed by north ossetians russian puppets
You are not Ossetian, don’t lie. We are not brothers.
The recognizers of abkhazia must be the most random assortment of countries.
Russia
Syria
Nicaragua
Venezuela
Nauru
So not quite as random, as all but Nauru are Russia and Russia's sympathisers
0:28 audio says "near east" but text on map says "middle east", so which is it?
Do Dagestan / Chechnya
When I first heard of Georgia as in the country, I thought it was part of the US state of Georgia. This was when I was a kid.
Many adults still think same.
You forgot to mention that there is a tunnel that connects north osetia to souith osetia(samachablo) that russians built during soviet times; making it the easiest region to reach from the outside. That pos shevardnadze is responsible for its construction.
1 correction. Megrelians and Svans (Georgians) have lived as a majority in Abkhazia for thousands of years. That land was the ancient Georgian land of Colchis first and foremost.
Yes, even Samurzakano was Mingrelian region.
any proof mengrels or svans were majority in abkhazia(except samurzakan/gal) before russian invasion and abkhazian exile?
@@mdzymta if you look at the ethnic population of Abkhazia in 1989, then yes
@@mdzymta Look up sanigs and missimians also other stuff such as the duchy of tskhumi. Although majority can't be claimed as we don't have definitive ethnic data .
@@pixistypses5406 yeah, after the exile of abkhazians and mass georgian settlement in abkhazia. but i'm asking about history. not the era of stalin made demographic games
adjara isnt a real problem for georgia
Yes because 96 percent of adjaras population is Georgian
I like how you get to the point and just lay out the important highlights that explain the big picture instead of little details that would require reading books to understand.
For Adjara, it was actually first republic of Georgia who granted autonomous republic status as long as there still lived Muslim Georgians and socialists thought they should have had autonomy. Apart from that, there was really tough situation with Turkey but in the last moment, Muslim elite of Adjara, who were ethnic Georgians, preferred ethnicity and nationality over religion and opted to stay within republic of Georgia rather than being part of Turkey. Therefore, it was kinda like returning the favour from the central government to grant them autonomous status. Later, Soviet Georgia just inherited the legacy. Kinda same for Abkhazia, Abkhazians in 1918 preferred to stay within Georgian borders and somehow to get rid of Russian civil war. When Georgian general Mazniashvili entered the region to defend the borders and take administration responsibilities Abkhaz nobility granted him small cavalry regiment to support the cause. So again, autonomous status was reward for loyality towards Georgian central government. It was Bolsheviks who opposed Georgian rule there. For South Ossetia yes, it was completely made up by Bolsheviks as a reward for Ossetians helping red army annexing Georgia. Although Abkhazia has been separated duchy from Georgian kingdoms in later years, it was still part of Georgian political sphere, divided Georgia was just a common thing throughout 15th-18th centuries. Adjara was part of guria but not all of today's Adjara. Mountainous part was itself part of Samthkhe that was fully annexed. Guria owned just lowland Adjara. Ottomans didn't fully annex Giria itself, it still was nominal vassal of kingdom of Imereti, they just detached current Adjarian territory. Historically, Abkhazian territory also increased in size towards core Georgia. Up to Sokhumi, the capital of Abkhazia, it was considered duchy of Odishi ( modern day Mingrelia). Later Abkhaz dukes conquered territory from Odishi dukes, you can see this on many European maps of 16-18 centuries if you don't believe in Georgian sources.
This comment might be not seen but that is important to mention that the Abhazians are not sub ethnic group of Geaorgians. Some georgians say that There is two type of Abhazians one is Georgian Abhazians which was never mentioned in any historical documents as georgian ethnic group. Second one are Apsua invaders from north those are living right now in Republic of Abhazia.
But the right thing is that Abhazians/Apsua people are aboriginal people of that region. They belong to Adigo-Abhazian language group. I am my self Circassian(Adiga). And many Circassians fought for freedom of Abhazia, but Russia came and annexed Abhazia. Abhazia must be independent from both Russia and Georgia.
Do you know why you were united with georgia? Because together we were strong. We are not your enemy. We are brothers
@@niconicoo5661 he's circassian
unique insight, thank you
i like your maps
Sa
all i need to say is: thank you and
my countrys 20% is occupaid by Russia
Glad you liked it and that is what it looks like
@@epimetheus2249 my classmate is a refugee from abkhazia and i am sad and mad he was kicked out of his home i whish we get them back
thanks for the video
Who was it that kicked your friend out of his home? (the Abkhazian government, Militia, or other group?) Was it an organized deportation or arbitrary?
@@giorgijioshvili9713 after what recently happened in Nagorno-Karabakh do you think the Georgian government might try something?
Epimetheus 2 don’t you know we have 250000 refugees from abkhazhia, who kicked? They made genocide of Gerogians which is recognized by Russia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_Abkhazia Thanks for video. There are some facts to consider firstly : most Apsuans( what you call apkhazhian) were pagans some of them arrived from North, after that Patriarch of west the Georgia moved From Bijvinta to Kutaisi, also some travelers wrote how apsuans burned Sokhumi in their language they call it Aყva secondly: Dadiani the prince of Odishi started building the wall on the river of kelasuri to defend his principality en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelasuri_Wall. In addition nowadays. The population of South Ossetia (samachablo) is aroud 30000 10000 are Georgians.Thanks for video, you are the best🤝
Abkhazia is not Georgia. Georgia is a US state
You aren't wrong
It is incorrect. From 1921 untill 1931 Abkhazia was a Soviet republic, not an autonomy of Georgia. It became one in 1931.
Russia is the biggest problem in caucasus. These people have similar culture and traditions. There is not supposed to be problem between these people. No Russia = No problem
Russia doesn't want peaceful and strong neighbors
What makes you say this ?
@@CrazyBRTwhy do you say that ?
or the problem is georgian nationalism and imperialism
This is an autonomous Republic and in fact there is no sea coast on the whole territory of Georgia.The places with sea coasts of Georgia belong to other ingigenous peoples of Caucaus. During the exile of Abkhazians to Ottoman lands by Tsarist Russia in the 1800s, some Abkhazians settled in this region, which was Ottoman territory at that time. Currently, Turkish Georgians and Armenians predominate in the population. According to the text of the 1921 Kars Treaty, after the Ottoman Empire, Turkey granted this small region a wide administrative autonomy that guaranteed all the rights of the people and left it to Georgia on the condition that it could trade freely, tax-free, through the port of Batumi
gonna watch soon, but there is another disputed area rn as well, Gareja region which is disputed by georgia and azerbaijan rn. Its very important for Georgia since there are 2 old monasteries of Georgia.
hey, i really love the map used in this video, is there a way i can see the full map? i'd love to print it
Apsua-Abkhazian people 70 000 right now there. . . In 1993 more than 300 000 peole was forced to leave teritorry
those 300 000 were Georgians who were forced to leave there homes because of those 70 000 aqsua people
@@giorgijioshvili9713 sure not , it is due russian politics. They just using some thousand apsua name to legalize occupation .
@@solomonsolom6683 Yes you are right
What different between abkhazia and abazania ( abazins ).
Good question.
Abzins are abkhazians who migrated
Abkhazians are native Georgians and Abazis are a nomadic tribe that settled on the territory of Georgia in the Middle Ages from the North Caucasus.
@@_Sakartvelo_ that's pseudo-history, they have been there much longer
Abkhazia and South osetia (Samachablo) are Georgia!
milo milo your mather was coming in my city..you know for what) and because you annoyed for life)))
@@Ighlonti sasachablo
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грузин переводится как раб☝️вы беженцы с берегов Ефрата и Тигра🎉 трупоеды .
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Georgia is a state in America! Abkhazia
Could you do a video explaining the histories of the north caucasian peoples?
Abkhaz and Osetia is Georgia
Love and support Georgia Greetings From Azerbaijan 🇦🇿✌🏻🇬🇪 ...
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And Artsakh is Armenia
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In April 1915, Turkish units supported by Muslim Georgian Laz and Adjarian irregulars attempted a raid on the Black Sea port of Batumi but were repulsed. The same year, Vorontsov- Dashkov sent General Lyakhov to slaughter the Muslim Georgian Laz and Adjarianს as a punishment for their pro-Turkish attitude. Lyakhov ravaged and depopulated the entire Chorokhi valley up to Artvin, in the vicinity of which only 7,000out of a previous population of 52,000 Georgian Muslims were left alive.
South Ossetia has never been an autonomous republic. It was an autonomous oblast during the Soviet period. Today, Georgia has only two autonomous republics, the Autonomous Republics of Abkhazia and Adjara.
South Ossetia and Abkhazia are independent countries now. Deal with it.
@@gamermapper nobody cares what putin says so deal with it
@@giorgijioshvili9713 go to South Ossetia and ask any administration what's the country. Facts don't catr about your feelings
@@gamermapper Nobody cares about there administaraishan before UN makes it liggel
@@gamermapper Oh, don’t worry. Russia isn’t going to be there forever, and when that happens, no one’s gonna ask the Ossetians’ opinion on it. They’ll either accept the fact that it’s Georgia or will be politely escorted to North Ossetia.
Epimetheus, I love the background! I got a new monitor and was wondering if you could share/post the image so I can use it as a wallapper. Thanks!
Abkazia ans South Ossetia are not under georgian control anymore.
Do you like RuZZian occupation? We do not care, go and live in this evil empire. Abkhazia and Samachablo always were and will be Saqartvelo.
@@_Sakartvelo_
TY for this - it helped clear up what Jonny Harris was leaving out of his propaganda piece
So Georgia has been sacked 31 times.................. so far. What is the likelihood of it being ransacked again? Is it safe for me to set up in Kutaisi?
it is, the last conflict was already 13 years ago
They’ll probably just join the EU and be flooded with African immigrants and have their culture destroyed. Very sad
set up what
There's big difference between Apkhazia, ossetia and Adjara.
Adjara is supportive to Georgia meanwhile Abkhazia and South Ossetia are against geirgiy
Thanks for video. I want to say something about abkhazians origin. Twice is true, i mean today in abkhazia call themselves abkhazians people from north and kartvelian people. For example president of abkhazia aslan bzhania is ethnic Georgian. His surname bzhania is Georgian. Bzha in Georgian language means sun. Also defence minister of abkhazia is ethnic Georgia kishmaria. Also half of abkhazians are Georgians. Other part are adyga circassian people from north caucasus. Their language is afshila adyga circasian language. Abkhazia comes from Georgian region afkhazeti. It always rulled by Georgians, for example anchabadze,bagrationy, shavliani, shervashidze and so. There always lived Georgian speaking people there are hundreds Georgian architecture with Georgian alphabets. In 1990 in abkhazia lived 500 000 people. From them 350 000 were ethnic Georgians. In 1991-93 years 300 000 Georgians were displaced and 30 000 were killed. They did ethnic cleasing. Afkhazeti is Georgia tskhinvali is Georgia. 🇬🇪🇬🇪☝️
You're actually delusional lol. I've went to Georgian cemeteries in Abkhazia and I haven't seen a single Georgian last name who died before 1940. Currently the Abkhaz population is only 245,000 and is only increases. It never was above that. Abkhaz is a completely different language from Georgian. It's clear to me that you yourself never been to Abkhazia, because if you did, you would understand how different it is. You lost your invasion in 1992, no one likes salty losers.
I'm A Georgian And I'd like To Learn About My Country
Extremely accurate in regards to creation of separatist region of so called “ south Ossetia” . But Apsua mistakingly called Abkhazians have immigrated to Georgia from northern regions current day Russia
How can you explain that Georgi lasha has “apsuas” name ? Type anywhere georgi lasha’s name meaning and it will tell that it’s Abkhazian. Lasha means bright ,Alashara-light .Stop spreading your bullshit ,bozi
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In Abkhazians language, Abkhazians called themselves Apsua. Just like Circassians call themselves Adigha. Abkhaz and Adigha language is NOT mutually understandable. My father family was deported from Ochamchira region, my mom’s family from Sochi which was Circassian land. They don’t understand each other at all.
Just for my curiosity , exactly what part of Russia Abkhazians immigrated from? Because up until mass deportation of Caucasian’s around 1864, Abkhazians were the mejarity. It was during the Georgian butcher Stalin migrellians moved to Abkhazia. After the war they were ASKED😎 to go back to where they came from.
part of
So was this to much information for the main video?
I'm from Georgia 🇬🇪❤️
i would highly recommend any of you to visit Abkhazia and South Ossetia to see the reality by your own eyes. the rest could not go beyond theoretical assumptions and claims.
Abkhazia is not Georgia. Georgia is state of USA.
American moment
Ignorance is a bliss
Haha
what
He isn't wrong
The Mongols also used Ossetians against Georgia. Then, when the influence of the Mongols weakened, King George finally expelled the Mongols from Georgia, and pushed the Ossetians to the North Caucasus.
Can you do a roblox series on this channel?
¿Are roblox those lego looking dudes?
@@epimetheus2249 yess
As an apsua I think we should have taken Georgian side and asked for an autonomy region for apsuas
Nice thinking, Abkhazia is autonomus state of Georgia, its not independent
what makes you say so
Russians gave Ossetians Georgian (Tskhinvali), Ingushian (Prigorodniy) and Kabarda (Mozdok) lands to Ossetians after local Caucasian peoples had been massacred.
When did Russia exterminate you, if it came to the Caucasus at your request? Was it not you who took part in the genocide of the Circassians? Was it not yours that Stalin and Beria deported entire peoples to Kazakhstan, which was why you increased your territory from their neighbors? Lying, disingenuous bastаrds
@@АнтонЧигур-ъ2м Exactly, the Russians also massacred Ossetian relatives (karachay-balkar people, they are of Alan origin but speak Turkic)
In case you didn't know, parts of Chechnya-Ingushetia, Karachay-Balkaria and Kabardino-Balkaria were Georgian during the deportation, so following your logic the Georgians were blamed for their deaths, shut up
@@АнтонЧигур-ъ2м how did they increase Georgian territory ?
@@nurayozdemir3653 Georgia gave up those lands , unlike the ossetians
Thanks
I am georgian and i learn something but please do not call it south osetia it is samachablo and also abxazians are georgians as like me others was ok i am thankful and love you from geoegia
It's South Ossetian Republic. Facts don't care about your feelings, South Ossetia is an independent country.
@@gamermapper i do not think so
@@historybr0 go to Tskhinvali, you'll have a border check
@@gamermapper strasbourg does not agree to you
@@historybr0 what do you mean? In Tskhinvali you need a border check it's a fact.
Seen a flag of south Ossetia in Tiraspol
I once sneezed, and the noise I made sounded a tiny bit like the word “Abkhazia”
Immediately several Georgians teleported into my house to tell me Abkhazia is Georgia.
I’d never even heard of it at the time
Абхазия это Абхазия!!!)Грузия в прошлом !!!Хотели Абхазию без Абхазов!!!Хрен им!!!
:bravo..crucial info and chill art
6:42 we didn't leave, we got kicked out.
actually, south Ossetia was offered autonomy, but they declined. so, it's not an autonomous region since 1991
Да,они теперь отдельное Государство Алания☝☝☝
@@vladikavkazalania1889 💀💀"южная Осетия" это пустой и разрушенны регион, всю населению выгнали и там кроме русских солдат почти некого нету. Кроме того, все города, включая вашу "столицу" имеют грузинские название.
@@vladikavkazalania1889 и если это незаменимое государство, почему у всех русские паспорта?
@@DemeDemetre потому,что они имеют и Российское гражданство.Как и масса грузин например☝☝☝
@@vladikavkazalania1889 южная Осетия это просто база России. Посмотри на карту, границы не соответствуют ничему. каждая независимая страна имеет свои паспорта, а граждане колоний типа Абхазии, Донецка, и приднестровье имеют российский паспорт.
History of Turkey pls
Will you do the same just with China?
Im from Abkhazia, me and my family was kicked out from our home. I just was 2 year old.
When did your family migrate to Abkhazia? Georgians aren’t native to Abkhazia, so they must’ve came during the USSR.
@@sonofalbi9801the linguistic evidence indicates that's demonstrably untrue imo
@@sonofalbi9801 there is a oldest history of georgians in Abkhazia.
Georgia isn't a country it's a Republic of the most greatest almighty Soviet Union ( USSR). It's not Georgia it's Georgia SSR ( Soviet Georgia).
Georgia has ben a country literqly about 3000 years before udssr came into existence
I am Laz
We miss you!
@@androtchitchinadze3450 what do you mean? Just asking 'cause I couldn't understand that's why😁
@@cagrsarac2042 Laz language belongs to the Kartvelian languages. And Georgian is one of them. Laz is also one of them and the unfortunate thing is that the Kartvelian language speakers like Svan and Mingrelian people identify themselves as Georgians, but Laz people don't, well at least don't anymore. Laz people are in Georgia, but only in the thousands, while there are million Turkey. I want Laz people to be free.
@@androtchitchinadze3450 yeah me too
@@androtchitchinadze3450 also where are you from?
Монголы также использовали осетин против Грузии. Затем, когда влияние монголов ослабло, царь Георгий окончательно изгнал монголов из Грузии, а осетин вытеснил на Северный Кавказ.
wow thx for video it was soo intresting ! abxazia and samachablo is georgia !! gaumarjos saqartvelos ! ჩვენთან არს ღმერთი!
Your welcome! Thanks Giorgi!
Никогда,Абхазия и Южная часть Алании не были и не будут грузией☝☝☝
south ossetia was called "samachablo" before stalin renamed it
modern day abkhazians (Which should be called abazgs and apshiles, ) and ossetians both are north caucasian people this is just simple fact. No one denies this fact not even they... So how the land in south Caucasus belong to "only" north caucasians?
The reality is that they don't have enough balls to fight russia for their independence in north caucasus, rather they choose to betray Georgians and take Russian side in the conflicts... So pathetic...
One misconception here is that Abkhazian means Georgian same as Kakhetian means georgian it's just subregional division of Ethnic Georgians or Kartvelians how we call it. However, separatist group who knowdays lives in Abkhazia and is called Abkhazians are not really Abkhazians and in fact, they call themselves Apsuas not Abkhazians, Abkhazian kingdom was created by ethnically kartvelian or simply georgian people, not by Apsuas who imigrated in the region in around 16th century from northen caucasus due to help of Ottomans to destabilize the region, they were both Muslims so basically had help from Muslim Ottomans to immigrate into the region, have a supportive population there and destabilize the region.So, to colcude those so called Apsuas are not indigenous population of Abkhazian region, Abkhazia is a Georgian name, it's Georgians(Kartvelans) who call them Abkhazians while that separatist groups calls themselves Apsuas, so if they really were indigenous population of the region, why they would name it Abkhazia rather than Apsua, it's completely nonsense
I am from the blessed land of Georgia and 20% of my country is occupied by russia
P.S thank you my man for putting this video out there 🙏🏻
Abkhazia is a historical territory of absuas and abazins people.
There are several historian sources:
Peripl of Evksinsky Pont, 2nd century, Flaviy Arrian.
War with Gotes, 6th century, Prokopy Kessarian, book 4, chapters 9-10.
The book of knowing of the world, 14th century, De Galonyfontibus.
The describing of Mingrelia, 17th century, Arkangelo Lamberty
@@Disciple1963 they will never believe any of this. Utterly brainwashed even though the video is clear and there is documentation. I've lived in Georgia for 7 years and heard this exact phrase verbatim for all 7 of them🙄
@@amysanchez3699 ok.
Have youn heard about "mhedrioni"?
Search some video in youtube:
mhedrioni in megrelia in 1993.
There are evidences of their crimes after they left Abkhazia.
@@Disciple1963 შენ ვერ გვასწავლი საქართველოს ისტორიას.
I am astounded how much research goes into such potentially polarized topics and still avoids the usual vitriol in the comments. You mist be doing something right.
long live independent Ossetia!
Алания ❤❤❤
🚫 🥛 🧀
Are there any Abkhazians or Ossetians here?
why do you support separatists anyway? like dude
50k people lmao😹😹
They don't have internet access
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@@rare9931 которые вам надрали задницы😁😁😁😁бежали храбрые биджорики быстрее Запорожца спущенного с горы АРАРАТ☝☝☝
Gagimargos dzmao, you are very good.
Georgia started wars of aggression in 1992 and 2008. Lost all of them. That’s it.
Georgia will continue to gain full supremacy over its whole territories .
Georgia didn't start anything, you can see who started it and who is fighting now
Everyone will receive theirs in due time in Jesus name ☦️
I think it's fair to point out that Adjara (Batum region as Ottomans and Russians were referring it to it) was among other regions Ottomans were willing to retake. Klarjeti and Samtskhe. To not dwell into unnecessary information, Adjara, Samtkshe and Klarjeti were first part of Russian Empire, then transferred into Transcaucasian Federation. The state was weak and was opportunity for Ottomans to seize those parts. At the end they managed to occupy three of them and were even present near to capital of Georgia. At the end, Federation was dissolved, British occupied Adjara and Ottomans left.
At the end of the Republic's days, now Turkey, along with Bolshevik Russia invaded in 1921 and successfully defeating Georgia. As of Kars Treaty, both Russia and Turkey agreed that Russia will take entirety of Georgia (including Batumi and Samtskhe) but Turkey will take Klarjeti which is today's Artvin and Ardahan Regions. As a compromise for not taking Batumi, Russia created Autonomous Republic of Adjara withing Georgia.
There is no such thing as South Ossetia! It’s Inner Kartalinia region in central Georgia where Ossetian refugees (search for “ხიზანი”) have settled in late medieval centuries in various Georgian principalities, such as Samachablo, Dukedom of Qsani (Ksnis saeristao), portion of Dukedom of Racha, etc. The term “South Ossetia” was used first by Tsarist Russians describing Ossetian villages in the illegally annexed eastern Georgian Kingdom of Kartli-Kakheti. Later after the Bolshevik invasion Georgian Communists have created fake and completely artificial Ossetia in the middle of Georgia and made Georgian town Tskhinvali (founded by a Georgian king many centuries ago) a capital city while only around 10% of Ossetians lived there. Now, centuries later so many Russians are fleeing from Western sanctions against Putin (including many of his supporters), that in the future they may try to takeover entire Georgia.
They are independent. Not autonomous Zones.
Georgia - failstate
No
@@giorgijioshvili9713ай да жыхы маджыл
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