It's not sad. It's a reality of life. You expect good things from those professing to be decent people. In fact we demand it. If a decent looking suited man addressed you disrespectfully, most people will react negatively but if it was a stinking crackhead, most people will ignore it and walk away. Also think about this. If a white area has lot of crime, will the residents of that area go and pressure the criminals to stop committing crime or are they pressuring government and police. What's sad is people not expecting black people to demand any responsibility from public services.
Nah I grew up in South London. I'm not going to pretend people like Kaba didn't make my life a nightmare. I had more issues with road men than I had with police.
Exactly! We all did and still do. Would much rather have police standing on street corners than a group of black men, hooded up, smoking weed and listening to crap music out loud
Remember the officer who got acquitted, did so with the jury having no knowledge of chris' background. That information only came out because a judge lifted the order for his background be not be revealed. His mum tried to get that order to remain so that info wouldn't have been available for at least a few years but the judge rejected this request. We can sit here right now and say this and say that, but at the end of the day he shouldn't have done what he done trying to ram his way out. That car was followed for 15 minutes from camberwell to tulse Hill where they tried to stop him. The car was linked to not 1, not 2, but 3 shootings hence the heavy handed tactics used. We are not police, we cannot sit here and say oh, should have shot his tires, should have tased him etc, its embarrassing. Mad itch is actually a real indication of his character. The cctv footage was cold was hell, the way he pops the strap one time so calmly, this guy was calculated and a very dangerous man. It's sad that he chose to go out the way he did because for you to have a bag of armed feds pointing their guns at you, you must be mad to try ram you way out. I mean as a gunman, in your heard, you must really know when the armed feds come knocking they ain't pointing guns to scare or tickle you are they. If anyone has done jury service or been involved in a case before, you will know just how much evidence and arguments are presented at trial. Most of the opinions people seem to have is based of emotions rather than facts. Bringing race and murder into question. It's embarrassing to even be in conversation with people who have this mentality, common sense is seriously not common any more. RIP Itch but it should have never ended this way. Not only has he lost his life, the officer involved has also lost his life he had. He can never live a normal life for himself and his family ever again. This country has been soft and always will be and criminals think they can do whatever they want. If it's so bad here go be a criminal in another country and see how far you get. If you ever been stopped by armed feds, let's not pretend you're a normal guy working an admin role with no links to crime whatsoever. The logic of these arguents is so flawed and blinded by your angry and hurt emotions rather than what it really is. The truth hurts, and it really goes to show here.
No disrespect but this guy shot up another guy in a crowed club and then chased him down the street.....At this point he was either gonna kill an innocent person or be killed....as to by who wouldn't even matter......If he had got by the same guy he shot at in the club the narrative would be different.....It would make the news for that day only .......So i don't have sympathy at this point....
Stop making excuses…if this was the case of a law abiding citizen then uproar is needed…but talking about a brudda who shot another brudda prior…live by that guys and die by it…Babylon ain’t worried if you busy bussin shots at your own
Big up poundz cause he’s speaking facts, it’s so unfortunate the death of this man but he should have known the potential prejudice in that moment. My separate gripe is as a community we need to stop having a victim mentality which resorts to moving towards criminal behaviour. That’s completely understandable choice to make 20-30 years ago when knowledge was scarce and opportunities where low but today I’m sorry but if you do these things it’s a choice there has never been a time when our culture have been more in charge of their narrative. We all come from a certain place that does not excuse the choices people make. Take responsibility for your direction and your life.
Sad situation. I do find it strange how we come together more when police kill us vs one of our own. I think we need to reverse a lot of hypnosis done on us throughout history. We somehow see attacks on one another as ‘part of the game’ when we should be trying to work out who created the rules to this so called ‘game’
because police are exist (at least in theory) to protect and serve, that’s merely a false equivalence. gangsterism amongst all us is a completely different topic.
@@Valter-AndradeNah not that deep he wouldn’t of been using it for that he would of been trying to escape nothing warrant him being shot in my opinion, like poet said there more of them with gun no man in there right mind going to try harm them he would of just been trying to escape which in that moment dumb cause like pounds said they want a reason to kill us anyways but something need to be changed with the system just a joke
Play stupid games , win stupid prizes . The authorities knew exactly what they were doing with regards to revealing the real Chris Kaba and slammed down Domino on all people protesting . He was out of control and would have had nothing but a continuous negative impact on the community . Let’s protest with us much passion when it’s Black on Black crime 🙏🏽
I’m sorry but when armed police are involved pointing guns at you, you should immediately comply it’s not worth being shot, Chris Kaba wasn’t taking accountability for his own actions going bare faced then shooting someone and he gave the police difficult a decision to make.
Apparently the police did not know it was Chris kaba and apparently he did comply to everything he was told. That officer did not have to shoot him in the head.
@@maisiemai9781 really? Because I very much doubt the police told him to ram the car he was driving into them. If he stopped like they told him to and he got shot then you’d have an argument
You’re prob not a man. He had less than 3 seconds to make a decision. Whatever he did, he would have been killed. The police have there excuse that works time and time again, “colleagues were in danger and feared for our lives”
@@blaqueruby4946 'You’re prob not a man. ' Yeah here we go shaming because somebody doesn't agree with you. There is a lot of footage online for many criminals who are black different races and when they scream armed police they comply and they don't get shot. You're so hard to excuse this guy behaviour.
That’s part of the game😅Can’t be gunman doing madness and expecting to be treated nicely. I hate feds but these man are looking for a brudda they know shot up a public event. This weren’t a innocent guy or mistaken identity.
@@kj5394 The police knew, that’s why they were after him. It was just not allowed to be told to the jury or the public so it wouldn’t bias their verdict
@kj5394 They didn’t know who was in the car... Even if they were after him for something separate, they did not know it was him. They didn’t know who was driving the car. All they knew was that the car was involved in something the day before... someone could have borrowed the car and the innocent owner be driving it...they would have shot them. That’s the point if the case
Pounds broke this down like he was reciting ABCDEFG... Many young people are raised by hard working, religious and law abiding parent(s), yet whilst their parents toil to make ends meet, some children succumb to the seemingly lucrative and hazardous allure of the streets and crime - it is a dichotomy fuelled by the universal goal we are taught from birth to present, to be successful. Condolences to all families of children/young people who choose the alternative (illegal) path to success and are no longer with us.
Some interesting points here, but implying that an armed response unit shooting someone who refused to comply is evidence of racism is borderline dishonesty. We're not America, it's not standard procedure for police officers to carry guns. When armed police turn up to tye scene the argument about apprehension is on it's way out of the building and the only way to get it back is to comply.
We offer our deepest condolences to the family for the loss of their child. Losing a child is never easy, regardless of the circumstances. However, it is important to recognize personal accountability, and families should be aware of what their children are involved in outside the home. The CCTV footage released by the police provides a clearer view of Chris’s life. Sadly, he lived by the gun and died by it. The key message here is to stay away from street life-it offers false promises and is ultimately a dangerous path.
2024 we’re still making excuses. Our community will not move forward unless we take accountability for our actions. Poundz said he won’t speak against our community, in some ways that is admirable but in other ways it justifies and enables negative attitudes.
Tbf it’s just common sense. Black people need to stop thinking subjectively when it comes to issues.. not everything is down to race.. the fool didn’t comply with arm police instructions therefore I have zero sympathy for that criminal..
True BUT there's also a lot of parents that are well aware that their child is living jungle rules on the street.. they just don't care 🤷♂️. There's baaare single mums out there that happily take there child/ sons drug money with open hands.
Criticising Martin Blake on the grounds that he was cold and calculating is ridiculous. He's an armed police officer, his job is to be cold and calculating so that his emotions don't get control of him. At the end of the day armed police aren't there to have a nice chat.
I always like Admiral Tibet from Jamaica. He has always written songs with sensible messages about avoiding a life of crime. We need more artists like him to teach the youths dem. Reality him a talk bout.
ironically the only reason he did this is because police in the uk are generally so soft compared to other places people are used to getting away with a lot imo
Ramming armed feds was out of pocket, especially days after those same feds have watched you try doot another man in a packed night club. Cant live badman lifestyle then expect perfect policing 🤷♂️
I respect pound sterling views keep the family out of the wickedness I tried to keep my family away some time u can’t but I agree ☝🏾 protect the family and women and children 🙏🏾❤️💛💚🖤
We need to take accountability, man This is what could happen when you live dat life. Police did what they do But we have to change this backwards mentality n conditioning kmt
Never a truer word spoken, too many women are out here suffering the consequences of this mad life. I wouldn’t have told my son to separate from the family, but I just wish more men put some time in towards the fight, that includes attending the court and supporting the boys to understand it’s not just about them, it’s about the ones you leave behind. It’s bad enough burying your child, but the shame that comes with being headline news for the wrong reasons is enough to bury the strongest of us. RIP Chris and condolences to the family. #NOT-SHOCKED
We do know that police in Jamaica etc are way worse. There’s a video of an officer telling a badman he’s going to kill him and the officer apparently killed him later. Why don’t we protest about officers in Jamaica or Nigeria etc? Also why do we talk about perm getting killed by 67 and the hill after he spoke on Itch. (Even though it was by chance they caught him) and perm wasn’t innocent, man will tell you man that he bummed in their face. Some of them same hill youths but why don’t we march on their block and try to fix it. Misplaced anger.
poet always been a good listener he listens to understand and then he responds very intelligent brother pounds was also right distance yourself from family !!!
If you are crazy enough to start ramming armed policemen with a car, and that car was linked with a shooting a few days before, who's to say you're not crazy enough to pull out a gun and start shooting. The policeman was in survival mode because it was literally a life or death situation. What do you expect him to do? I feel for the family but I don't see how else that situation should have played out. Should never have gone to court.
There's no such thing as a black community in the UK chris kaba and his parents are from congo they belong to that community so idk why everyone is saying black community
Wow, the name Winston Churchill says it all? So a black person of Congolese origin living in the UK is not part of the black community?! Please make that make sense!
@@buyop9441 let me dumb it down for you since your not smart enough there was an stabbing murder of an British MP in a church by a African man of Somalian origin(look it up) is it fair to say that a black person stabbed that person to death or a Somalian who did that is it fair for people who are from Jamaica for example who are majority Christians to take the blame just because you share a melanated complexion like I said there is no such thing as black in the UK
@@mrnumba154 no it doesn't people say Asians not browns even though they were part of one country in the past Kenya and Sierra Leone for example was never part of the same country they never even made contact
@@Winston_Chu I been on the internet since 50k modem dial up. From when if someone called you on the house phone while you were online it would kick you out. I can honestly say I’ve never read so much shit in one paragraph much less your whole comment. If not for the internet eh!
@@mikeroberts8093Was just going to comment the same thing. It was a fellow badman that got shot, and apparently he refused to cooperate with the police, because obviously jungle laws apply.
Condolences to the family because they lost someone they loved and are operating from a place of plain. However justice was served in this case his criminal past and the events of the night before were not presented to the jury. This mad was ramming his car into police in an attempt to escape. When they said hands up, he had one hand still on the wheel, then rammed the car forward seconds later.
@@DaaPoetry The police don’t get a call and say “ because he did a shooting previously u need to shoot him onsite” and for the guy below so the reason he died was because he used his car as a weapon ok nice to know ur opinion
So far u guys have been too soft he wasn’t going to kill the officer specifically forget the night club and the police have been in multiple situations chasing cars down u watch it on crime watch all the time
The machine ain't a joke when its on you. Further more most ain't experience the beams on them either like predator. Feds barking orders, man just wearing boxers. Kmt. Easy to understand how it can have gone sideways with one wrong move.
they're really not though hence police shootings being incredibly rare in the uk. british armed police are very well trained and tend to be restrained, even when ppl get killed its almost always a documented gunman or big drug dealer.
That last point by the dreaded guy was asanine. You're saying police officers shouldn't have a "survivors" mentality because the criminals they are pursuing have a more legitimate reason to be survivors, and therefore, they should be willing to sacrifice themselves? Make it make sense.
What Doug’s saying is true Chris kaba bring some of it on himself kaba shootting someone in a club has nothing to do with when the police shot him facts 💯👊🏾
I used to think that too as Poet's very wise and opinionated for his age but sometimes when it comes to certain industry players him and Chucky like to dedicate an episode to the topic to stay relevant but then sit on the fence for a couple hours and try not to offend ne1 or mess up the bag. If that's the case then swerve the convo and talk about something else. Other then that I like the guy, met him a few times n he was humble
Poet is normally very sensible but in this occasion I was very disappointed. No accountability whatsoever. All these intelligent black boyz caught up with road life are a disgrace. They have so much opportunity to be exceptional but throw it all away because of road life......IDIOTS !!!
4:23 first time heard this said out loud. Always been fascinating to me how mandem can go outside & do man in then come help mum with the shopping like nothing happened
Bare Chinese whispers. Itch got searched his friend didn’t and snuck in the machine while itch was getting searched. The victim was minding his business, itch got up close and gleed him. After the shots rang off everyone scattered. The victim cut outside and itch ran him down
If you're known to the police for machines, that's how they come.. ? That's it.. How are these man missing this.. ? Edit. Poundz knows.. I typed too early..
The police officer has shown he doesn't have the capability to be an armed. He is expected to maintain his composure in intense high pressure moments. He didn't do that he lost control and needs to lose job, at bare minimum he shouldn't be allowed to a fire arms officer.
If you ever been hard stopped T-pack etc then you know the officers are always erratic so you need to be calm in them situations or you will more than likely get bun by them especially if your known for carrying certain tings
I get why there is uproar , but my thing is there were clearly prejudices before the policer arrived and were too aggressive , a non lethal approach could of been made especially because he was boxed in (glass could of been broken and possibly suspect tasered), but equally why was Chris Running (we know why)and why didnt he stop (as a black man youre making things worse for yourself ) , in the eyes of police its a sign of guilt if you are running even more so if you are in a 2 plus tonne car. Potentially using that as a weapon , in short both actions from the armed police and Chris were poor unfortunately it cost Chris his live for not complying sooner.
Why do we as black people want all this leniency in a predominantly white country ? It’s a split decision situation of a non compliant assailant, anpr on a car linked to guns means immediate armed response…Kaba caused this .
Also the fact that the police know that the car is associated with a wreckless gunman and there’s a wreckless driver ramming their car who fits the description. RIP to Chris but he drawed himself out to get shot.
Terry Venables, John Thompson, Dennis Nilson and Dale Creagan all committed horrendous crimes but they were all captured unharmed, interviewed and put behind bars for a long time. Chris Kaba was suspected of carrying but he didn't discharge nefing at the police (Unlike CB from Newham who was a black gm, fired at the police and is now serving a 23 yr sentance) Chris used his vehicle as a battering ram to escape, he shouldve been taken in alive and punished by the law if found guilty instead of being exterminated.
I am really unsure how to retrain the mentality of these types of black people. Only people on the wrong side of the law have problems with police. Granted, there are some bad police but there are also bad people within families. These are rare and the result of individual behaviour, not a profession or a race. Anyone with a good education, a good income, not in council housing or in poorer areas, and making better choices at a young age don't have this experience. Kaba was trying to kill other young black men. Are we searching for racism so much that we can't take accountability for a lack of social discipline? If the police were all racist they would not protect black people at all in areas traumatised by gangs. They would police gang members or possible gang members when they enter affluent areas which typically have a low black population. Come on, this is really sad to hear this fear of police. Perhaps a change in behaviour, abd stop listening to U.S rap music glorifying gang culture. This links to poor family structure and a breakdown in the nuclear family, inadequate parental support and education, and poor life outcomes. Survival mode is a defeated state of mind. It's like no one expects to do better than what they think society expects, and they get lazy and blame failure for not trying on racism. The mentality is what has institutionalised people like Chris Kaba, not the police. Quick honesty box: If Chris Kaba had the freedom pass to kill 10 people without any criminal conviction, how many of those 10 people would not be black? If you're honest, you know there is a problem and it isn't the police!
You either lived a charmed life or you're not black or aware of real life "only people on the wrong side of the law have problems with police"?? Tell that to the black British athletes that were pulled put of their car for no reason and had their baby taken out of their arms for no reason, or the black politician that talks of being stopped by armed police and to this day doesn't know the reason why. The police investigated themselves and concluded that racism is a massive issue within it. and had this proven in court. Yes Poet and Dougs takes are wrong but yours is way off the mark too. Way off
@NiallOrielly I am black, but I have never lived in inner cities because I chose to only surround myself with university educated people. As a result, I live in Sussex and own multiple businesses, and I have never ever had a problem with police. I don't understand why just because we are black, the aspiration is hood life. I see all of these small sets and 13 year old making drill music inciting violence and bragging about committing crime or stabbing someone. These young boys are getting stabbed in London every day. I do believe there are socio-economic factors and systemic issues, but anyone choosing to cause terror and harm regardless of race is nothing more than a folk devil. I've heard nothing but victimhood culture blaming race and politics. There aren't race relation issues in the UK, but because people hold onto the past, everyone who is poor is a victim of injustice. The police shot a terrorist on London Bridge, and they shot a terrorist in Streatham. The people were all a great to society. We don't know all of the details of every tactical deployment, but my hunch is that there was enough intelligence to suggest that a tactical unit was required to apprehend some criminals. If you see police with guns, you surrender. What are police to do? Let a criminal escape because they didn't want to use force? That's how the UK becomes LA, and everyone will have a gun. Black people living in these conditions have a choice. The choice at the moment is to not unite against crime. Therefore, the cycle of poverty, criminality, state dependency, and poor life expectancy will not change. My final point is this, until people take accountability for their own actions (not this woke-socialist community nonsense), more young people will be affected by crime. The more young minds are exposed to dysfunctional behaviour, the sooner this becomes normalised, and they are desensitised to pain and suffering as this is what they know as normal. Fathers need to stay with their child's mother and create stability. The young people following someone like Chris Kaba followed his example mostly because they are not guided within the home, and most parenting is shouting or violence. Again, they become immune to pain and suffering, so how do they have regard for life if they aren't nurtured to value their own life? We need to get comfortable with being uncomfortable with reality; solve own social needs; and stop blaming others by default.
I know you man are doing your ting or whatever, but what is the need of the bottles of moet on the table? It's not a sign of affluence or opulence. it just seems like a wrong image.
Sorry I have to say not separate yourself. Do something different, something better for yourself and your family and their future. We cant talk about Police killing us if we're killing ourselves. If the police stop you get out of your car first because you know what's going to happen. Do better stop the road man bullshit.
I agree with you for those who are determined not to listen or do better go away from everyone and go do it we didn't raise you to be like this so don't come near us and make us suffer.
Regardless of how you act & behave you should be policed fairly . They are trained to remain calm & professional in those situations. Stop giving the police excuses They need to do better as do we.
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The sad fact is, if Kaba was killed by another black person, we wouldn't be having this conversation
The simple fact you haven’t got 1 like for your comment is where it is bro. Nobody don’t wanna hear them truths.
You can see that in the fact that nobody wants to talk about the shooting Kaba himself was involved in.
It's not sad. It's a reality of life. You expect good things from those professing to be decent people. In fact we demand it. If a decent looking suited man addressed you disrespectfully, most people will react negatively but if it was a stinking crackhead, most people will ignore it and walk away. Also think about this. If a white area has lot of crime, will the residents of that area go and pressure the criminals to stop committing crime or are they pressuring government and police.
What's sad is people not expecting black people to demand any responsibility from public services.
@@TheDjSweets he has 48, and hes spitting facts
yep, its fake up roar when you deep it
Nah I grew up in South London. I'm not going to pretend people like Kaba didn't make my life a nightmare. I had more issues with road men than I had with police.
Exactly! We all did and still do. Would much rather have police standing on street corners than a group of black men, hooded up, smoking weed and listening to crap music out loud
We gotta start holding ourselves accountable we can’t act however we want and expect 5 star policing
Thank you
Who is we? That guy is from Congo
@@captacao528Facts!
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@@Winston_Chu just mean as black peoples in general
Chris kaba was a brixton 67 demon. He's literally the reason the whole harlem spartans and 67 vs 150 and 410 beef all started.
He gave his opps headache
The last person u wanted to see if u was his opps. Certified demon
@@shanecrossly9223😮
Really, explain?
Remember the officer who got acquitted, did so with the jury having no knowledge of chris' background. That information only came out because a judge lifted the order for his background be not be revealed. His mum tried to get that order to remain so that info wouldn't have been available for at least a few years but the judge rejected this request.
We can sit here right now and say this and say that, but at the end of the day he shouldn't have done what he done trying to ram his way out. That car was followed for 15 minutes from camberwell to tulse Hill where they tried to stop him. The car was linked to not 1, not 2, but 3 shootings hence the heavy handed tactics used. We are not police, we cannot sit here and say oh, should have shot his tires, should have tased him etc, its embarrassing. Mad itch is actually a real indication of his character. The cctv footage was cold was hell, the way he pops the strap one time so calmly, this guy was calculated and a very dangerous man. It's sad that he chose to go out the way he did because for you to have a bag of armed feds pointing their guns at you, you must be mad to try ram you way out. I mean as a gunman, in your heard, you must really know when the armed feds come knocking they ain't pointing guns to scare or tickle you are they.
If anyone has done jury service or been involved in a case before, you will know just how much evidence and arguments are presented at trial. Most of the opinions people seem to have is based of emotions rather than facts. Bringing race and murder into question. It's embarrassing to even be in conversation with people who have this mentality, common sense is seriously not common any more.
RIP Itch but it should have never ended this way. Not only has he lost his life, the officer involved has also lost his life he had. He can never live a normal life for himself and his family ever again. This country has been soft and always will be and criminals think they can do whatever they want. If it's so bad here go be a criminal in another country and see how far you get. If you ever been stopped by armed feds, let's not pretend you're a normal guy working an admin role with no links to crime whatsoever. The logic of these arguents is so flawed and blinded by your angry and hurt emotions rather than what it really is. The truth hurts, and it really goes to show here.
Why do you think there were no armed police for the white man running around with a sword, who k*lled that 14 year black boy and sta**ed others?
Good clear well reasoned argument. Objective and not emotional.
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The officer lost his life? How do u no he’s not laughing about it in the pub with his mates u woke lot need to stop acting like u have all the answers
@@thankqvellymuch1604 Marcus monzo.
No disrespect but this guy shot up another guy in a crowed club and then chased him down the street.....At this point he was either gonna kill an innocent person or be killed....as to by who wouldn't even matter......If he had got by the same guy he shot at in the club the narrative would be different.....It would make the news for that day only .......So i don't have sympathy at this point....
He didn't know how to act, God sent the call, the end!
Why does God not send for Israel lol
Poundz the only one acknowledging that this guy was on crud
Full salute for the honesty. Road men no the reality. Kaba drove at armed cops. Racist cops they want to delete you. Let's not kid ourselves.
Most GMs are on crud, but they're not being shot whilst they're unarmed by people who are trained professionals. Bun Babylon
Stop making excuses…if this was the case of a law abiding citizen then uproar is needed…but talking about a brudda who shot another brudda prior…live by that guys and die by it…Babylon ain’t worried if you busy bussin shots at your own
@@omz2real175 O shut up, you happy with Chris committing genocide within our communities but bun babylon? you're a wasteman
@@omz2real175my guy.. you’re sticking up for a man that would probably g check you or rob you all for the gram. Fuck him!
Big up poundz cause he’s speaking facts, it’s so unfortunate the death of this man but he should have known the potential prejudice in that moment. My separate gripe is as a community we need to stop having a victim mentality which resorts to moving towards criminal behaviour. That’s completely understandable choice to make 20-30 years ago when knowledge was scarce and opportunities where low but today I’m sorry but if you do these things it’s a choice there has never been a time when our culture have been more in charge of their narrative. We all come from a certain place that does not excuse the choices people make. Take responsibility for your direction and your life.
They Is no such community
Faceless and new profile like many talking about this.
Sad situation. I do find it strange how we come together more when police kill us vs one of our own. I think we need to reverse a lot of hypnosis done on us throughout history. We somehow see attacks on one another as ‘part of the game’ when we should be trying to work out who created the rules to this so called ‘game’
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Seet deh!
because police are exist (at least in theory) to protect and serve, that’s merely a false equivalence. gangsterism amongst all us is a completely different topic.
I don’t consider gang members that kill other gang members are own. Just cause they have the same skin color
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Cmon fam You shouldn’t ram ARMED FEDs how stupid is dat? ARMED!
In my opinion once you use a car to ram you are now also armed 'with a vehicle'.
How
@@MLR_IVXbecause you can easily kill multiple people while in control of a vehicle
@@Valter-AndradeNah not that deep he wouldn’t of been using it for that he would of been trying to escape nothing warrant him being shot in my opinion, like poet said there more of them with gun no man in there right mind going to try harm them he would of just been trying to escape which in that moment dumb cause like pounds said they want a reason to kill us anyways but something need to be changed with the system just a joke
@@MLR_IVX really? Even after the judge released all the info about kaba being a criminal?
Play stupid games , win stupid prizes . The authorities knew exactly what they were doing with regards to revealing the real Chris Kaba and slammed down Domino on all people protesting . He was out of control and would have had nothing but a continuous negative impact on the community . Let’s protest with us much passion when it’s Black on Black crime 🙏🏽
Too many brand new profiles just for a talk like this.
I’m sorry but when armed police are involved pointing guns at you, you should immediately comply it’s not worth being shot, Chris Kaba wasn’t taking accountability for his own actions going bare faced then shooting someone and he gave the police difficult a decision to make.
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Apparently the police did not know it was Chris kaba and apparently he did comply to everything he was told. That officer did not have to shoot him in the head.
@@maisiemai9781 really? Because I very much doubt the police told him to ram the car he was driving into them. If he stopped like they told him to and he got shot then you’d have an argument
You’re prob not a man.
He had less than 3 seconds to make a decision. Whatever he did, he would have been killed. The police have there excuse that works time and time again, “colleagues were in danger and feared for our lives”
@@blaqueruby4946 'You’re prob not a man. ' Yeah here we go shaming because somebody doesn't agree with you. There is a lot of footage online for many criminals who are black different races and when they scream armed police they comply and they don't get shot. You're so hard to excuse this guy behaviour.
That’s part of the game😅Can’t be gunman doing madness and expecting to be treated nicely. I hate feds but these man are looking for a brudda they know shot up a public event. This weren’t a innocent guy or mistaken identity.
They didn't know at the time
@@kj5394 The police knew, that’s why they were after him. It was just not allowed to be told to the jury or the public so it wouldn’t bias their verdict
@kj5394 They didn’t know who was in the car... Even if they were after him for something separate, they did not know it was him. They didn’t know who was driving the car. All they knew was that the car was involved in something the day before... someone could have borrowed the car and the innocent owner be driving it...they would have shot them. That’s the point if the case
@@blaqueruby4946 Do you think they're blind? Or have you not seen the body cam footage? They could clearly see it was him inside the car.
@@blaqueruby4946 this is just foolishness😂
Pounds broke this down like he was reciting ABCDEFG... Many young people are raised by hard working, religious and law abiding parent(s), yet whilst their parents toil to make ends meet, some children succumb to the seemingly lucrative and hazardous allure of the streets and crime - it is a dichotomy fuelled by the universal goal we are taught from birth to present, to be successful. Condolences to all families of children/young people who choose the alternative (illegal) path to success and are no longer with us.
But it’s mainly blacks. What is that telling you? Parents are not involved enough.
Pounds said it 💯, this is the reality. Road and family don't mix. We are aware of the life we choose.
Some interesting points here, but implying that an armed response unit shooting someone who refused to comply is evidence of racism is borderline dishonesty. We're not America, it's not standard procedure for police officers to carry guns. When armed police turn up to tye scene the argument about apprehension is on it's way out of the building and the only way to get it back is to comply.
We need to get Akala on the pod to fully break this down
Why? Haven’t you got enough brain cells to break it down yourself? Which part of it are you confused with?
That's the thing with the young generation today, they struggle to think for themselves...
No sympathy from me.
Akala is on mason duties now my guy
He is too busy snuggling up with madonna 😂
"I would tell my son stop the car straight away do what they say they want to kill us anyway"
That new album is due
Pounds is the realest man … big up
We offer our deepest condolences to the family for the loss of their child. Losing a child is never easy, regardless of the circumstances. However, it is important to recognize personal accountability, and families should be aware of what their children are involved in outside the home.
The CCTV footage released by the police provides a clearer view of Chris’s life. Sadly, he lived by the gun and died by it. The key message here is to stay away from street life-it offers false promises and is ultimately a dangerous path.
2024 we’re still making excuses.
Our community will not move forward unless we take accountability for our actions.
Poundz said he won’t speak against our community, in some ways that is admirable but in other ways it justifies and enables negative attitudes.
Community ?
Pound Sterling show alot of insight, very intelligent.
Tbf it’s just common sense.
Black people need to stop thinking subjectively when it comes to issues.. not everything is down to race.. the fool didn’t comply with arm police instructions therefore I have zero sympathy for that criminal..
@@marvinwright7656 nowadays sense isn't common
True BUT there's also a lot of parents that are well aware that their child is living jungle rules on the street.. they just don't care 🤷♂️. There's baaare single mums out there that happily take there child/ sons drug money with open hands.
real talk
Absolutely Zero sympathy for that Kaba guy!
Kaba was a criminal and used the audi as a weapon towards armed police what did he think was gonna happen?
Criticising Martin Blake on the grounds that he was cold and calculating is ridiculous. He's an armed police officer, his job is to be cold and calculating so that his emotions don't get control of him. At the end of the day armed police aren't there to have a nice chat.
Only killing two people in a year says otherwise. Another brand new profile with nothing to their profile
@@whenneeded4652 I don't understand the comment, can you explain please?
I always like Admiral Tibet from Jamaica. He has always written songs with sensible messages about avoiding a life of crime. We need more artists like him to teach the youths dem. Reality him a talk bout.
When Pounds ain’t wearing his shades the convo gets DEEP
Sterling speaking facts
Accountability is key 🔑
We gotta be honest with ourselves
ramming armed feds is crazy
ironically the only reason he did this is because police in the uk are generally so soft compared to other places people are used to getting away with a lot imo
@@SI-cd7xs💯💯
Which one makes young black men truly fear for their life - opps or feds coming around the corner
Chris Kaba was the real life Modi
Ramming armed feds was out of pocket, especially days after those same feds have watched you try doot another man in a packed night club. Cant live badman lifestyle then expect perfect policing 🤷♂️
you guys making out he was some innocent guy on his way to Tesco to do some grocery shopping. shame on you
I respect pound sterling views keep the family out of the wickedness I tried to keep my family away some time u can’t but I agree ☝🏾 protect the family and women and children 🙏🏾❤️💛💚🖤
Every time poet goes on the mic he talks shit
“As a Jamaican” shutup man youre English bro with Jamaican heritage. Hes so jarring honestly
We need to take accountability, man
This is what could happen when you live dat life.
Police did what they do
But we have to change this backwards mentality n conditioning kmt
You speaking facts, these man make so many excuses
I don’t see how you can defend this one… can’t be acting a certain way and expecting 5 star policing
Never a truer word spoken, too many women are out here suffering the consequences of this mad life. I wouldn’t have told my son to separate from the family, but I just wish more men put some time in towards the fight, that includes attending the court and supporting the boys to understand it’s not just about them, it’s about the ones you leave behind. It’s bad enough burying your child, but the shame that comes with being headline news for the wrong reasons is enough to bury the strongest of us. RIP Chris and condolences to the family. #NOT-SHOCKED
We do know that police in Jamaica etc are way worse. There’s a video of an officer telling a badman he’s going to kill him and the officer apparently killed him later. Why don’t we protest about officers in Jamaica or Nigeria etc? Also why do we talk about perm getting killed by 67 and the hill after he spoke on Itch. (Even though it was by chance they caught him) and perm wasn’t innocent, man will tell you man that he bummed in their face. Some of them same hill youths but why don’t we march on their block and try to fix it. Misplaced anger.
poet always been a good listener he listens to understand and then he responds very intelligent brother pounds was also right distance yourself from family !!!
If you are crazy enough to start ramming armed policemen with a car, and that car was linked with a shooting a few days before, who's to say you're not crazy enough to pull out a gun and start shooting. The policeman was in survival mode because it was literally a life or death situation. What do you expect him to do? I feel for the family but I don't see how else that situation should have played out. Should never have gone to court.
I couldn’t agree more with what’s been said in this video
There's no such thing as a black community in the UK chris kaba and his parents are from congo they belong to that community so idk why everyone is saying black community
It isn't as established or homogenous as it was in the past but it still exists enough.
Wow, the name Winston Churchill says it all? So a black person of Congolese origin living in the UK is not part of the black community?! Please make that make sense!
@@buyop9441 let me dumb it down for you since your not smart enough there was an stabbing murder of an British MP in a church by a African man of Somalian origin(look it up) is it fair to say that a black person stabbed that person to death or a Somalian who did that is it fair for people who are from Jamaica for example who are majority Christians to take the blame just because you share a melanated complexion like I said there is no such thing as black in the UK
@@mrnumba154 no it doesn't people say Asians not browns even though they were part of one country in the past Kenya and Sierra Leone for example was never part of the same country they never even made contact
@@Winston_Chu I been on the internet since 50k modem dial up. From when if someone called you on the house phone while you were online it would kick you out. I can honestly say I’ve never read so much shit in one paragraph much less your whole comment. If not for the internet eh!
Poet and Doug, if that was your son in the club that kaba was shooting after, or accidentally got shot, you wouldn’t have that energy….
He gang gang 2 though
@@mikeroberts8093Was just going to comment the same thing. It was a fellow badman that got shot, and apparently he refused to cooperate with the police, because obviously jungle laws apply.
People in the culture aren't allowed to be honest.
lol let me guess, you think his murder was just
@@Deemelanin7 what distinction does that make? you wouldnt say that nonsense unless you thought it was just
Real talk Pounds 🙏🏿
Condolences to the family because they lost someone they loved and are operating from a place of plain. However justice was served in this case his criminal past and the events of the night before were not presented to the jury. This mad was ramming his car into police in an attempt to escape. When they said hands up, he had one hand still on the wheel, then rammed the car forward seconds later.
This is the realest conversation. A lot of what pounds said is goong to go over people head.
Insightful from pound sterling as usual ❤
No discrimination I rate poet and Doug views also nuff respect
❤️💛💚🖤
GTA lifestyle only ends one way.
RIP Chris . Question did he have a Wap in his hand at the time of death ? If not that is wrong from the officer period.
What?!?!
Police did nothing wrong
He did not comply with armed police
Did the guy in the club have a wap in his hand when he got chased down by Chris?
Make it make sense....
No he didn't have a WAP but he was using a 4 X 4 to ram his way through. As far as I am concerned at that point the car became a deadly weapon.
@@DaaPoetry The police don’t get a call and say “ because he did a shooting previously u need to shoot him onsite” and for the guy below so the reason he died was because he used his car as a weapon ok nice to know ur opinion
So far u guys have been too soft he wasn’t going to kill the officer specifically forget the night club and the police have been in multiple situations chasing cars down u watch it on crime watch all the time
The machine ain't a joke when its on you. Further more most ain't experience the beams on them either like predator. Feds barking orders, man just wearing boxers. Kmt.
Easy to understand how it can have gone sideways with one wrong move.
They just gangsters with uniforms don’t expect anything from them they itching
they're really not though hence police shootings being incredibly rare in the uk. british armed police are very well trained and tend to be restrained, even when ppl get killed its almost always a documented gunman or big drug dealer.
Wise Words... Spoken Truth By Sterling🤞🏾✨️
That last point by the dreaded guy was asanine.
You're saying police officers shouldn't have a "survivors" mentality because the criminals they are pursuing have a more legitimate reason to be survivors, and therefore, they should be willing to sacrifice themselves?
Make it make sense.
He was going to be an architect wasn’t he…..? 😂😂😂
WTF was Poet talking about?
All ah dat. Let's talk about it. Not a conversation for the faint hearted. The real one's know.
What Doug’s saying is true Chris kaba bring some of it on himself kaba shootting someone in a club has nothing to do with when the police shot him facts 💯👊🏾
Poet is real one , I don’t care what people say
I used to think that too as Poet's very wise and opinionated for his age but sometimes when it comes to certain industry players him and Chucky like to dedicate an episode to the topic to stay relevant but then sit on the fence for a couple hours and try not to offend ne1 or mess up the bag. If that's the case then swerve the convo and talk about something else. Other then that I like the guy, met him a few times n he was humble
Poet is normally very sensible but in this occasion I was very disappointed. No accountability whatsoever. All these intelligent black boyz caught up with road life are a disgrace. They have so much opportunity to be exceptional but throw it all away because of road life......IDIOTS !!!
Bars bars ..... It's a sorry state of affairs on this planet..none of it necessary..
Kaba's past caught up with him , a face off with armed police. Don't defend criminals.
4:23 first time heard this said out loud. Always been fascinating to me how mandem can go outside & do man in then come help mum with the shopping like nothing happened
Bare Chinese whispers. Itch got searched his friend didn’t and snuck in the machine while itch was getting searched. The victim was minding his business, itch got up close and gleed him. After the shots rang off everyone scattered. The victim cut outside and itch ran him down
Did the doorman deliberately not search the friend with the pew pew? Hhmm 😮 Edit perhaps an inside job......oh what a 🕸️.
Pounds spitting facts
If chris kaba never got shot and you watched the video everyone be saying hes lucky he never got shot...is actions cost him is life
Poundz nailed it
If you're known to the police for machines, that's how they come.. ? That's it.. How are these man missing this.. ? Edit. Poundz knows.. I typed too early..
Get down to Uppity for the real discussion on this.
That boy caused his own problems
Feel for the women.. feel for the family full stop
Early B….Coward yuh fi leave out the Badness
Police been killing us yearly 😢
You black men kill each other, and some black women too, aka Sasha Johnson, more than the police kill black men.
The police officer has shown he doesn't have the capability to be an armed. He is expected to maintain his composure in intense high pressure moments. He didn't do that he lost control and needs to lose job, at bare minimum he shouldn't be allowed to a fire arms officer.
If you ever been hard stopped T-pack etc then you know the officers are always erratic so you need to be calm in them situations or you will more than likely get bun by them especially if your known for carrying certain tings
Big up social commentary poet only seen him on fxkry and defending the arsenal
I get why there is uproar , but my thing is there were clearly prejudices before the policer arrived and were too aggressive , a non lethal approach could of been made especially because he was boxed in (glass could of been broken and possibly suspect tasered), but equally why was Chris Running (we know why)and why didnt he stop (as a black man youre making things worse for yourself ) , in the eyes of police its a sign of guilt if you are running even more so if you are in a 2 plus tonne car. Potentially using that as a weapon , in short both actions from the armed police and Chris were poor unfortunately it cost Chris his live for not complying sooner.
Why do we as black people want all this leniency in a predominantly white country ? It’s a split decision situation of a non compliant assailant, anpr on a car linked to guns means immediate armed response…Kaba caused this .
Also the fact that the police know that the car is associated with a wreckless gunman and there’s a wreckless driver ramming their car who fits the description. RIP to Chris but he drawed himself out to get shot.
Terry Venables, John Thompson, Dennis Nilson and Dale Creagan all committed horrendous crimes but they were all captured unharmed, interviewed and put behind bars for a long time. Chris Kaba was suspected of carrying but he didn't discharge nefing at the police (Unlike CB from Newham who was a black gm, fired at the police and is now serving a 23 yr sentance) Chris used his vehicle as a battering ram to escape, he shouldve been taken in alive and punished by the law if found guilty instead of being exterminated.
Officers didn’t know who Chris was. They stopped the vehicle because it was linked to a shooting so your point is invalid
Barlllll Head Doug - straight hair transplant bredda!!
Poet attempting to sound educated once again
I am really unsure how to retrain the mentality of these types of black people. Only people on the wrong side of the law have problems with police. Granted, there are some bad police but there are also bad people within families. These are rare and the result of individual behaviour, not a profession or a race. Anyone with a good education, a good income, not in council housing or in poorer areas, and making better choices at a young age don't have this experience. Kaba was trying to kill other young black men. Are we searching for racism so much that we can't take accountability for a lack of social discipline? If the police were all racist they would not protect black people at all in areas traumatised by gangs. They would police gang members or possible gang members when they enter affluent areas which typically have a low black population. Come on, this is really sad to hear this fear of police. Perhaps a change in behaviour, abd stop listening to U.S rap music glorifying gang culture. This links to poor family structure and a breakdown in the nuclear family, inadequate parental support and education, and poor life outcomes. Survival mode is a defeated state of mind. It's like no one expects to do better than what they think society expects, and they get lazy and blame failure for not trying on racism. The mentality is what has institutionalised people like Chris Kaba, not the police. Quick honesty box: If Chris Kaba had the freedom pass to kill 10 people without any criminal conviction, how many of those 10 people would not be black? If you're honest, you know there is a problem and it isn't the police!
You either lived a charmed life or you're not black or aware of real life "only people on the wrong side of the law have problems with police"?? Tell that to the black British athletes that were pulled put of their car for no reason and had their baby taken out of their arms for no reason, or the black politician that talks of being stopped by armed police and to this day doesn't know the reason why. The police investigated themselves and concluded that racism is a massive issue within it. and had this proven in court. Yes Poet and Dougs takes are wrong but yours is way off the mark too. Way off
@NiallOrielly I am black, but I have never lived in inner cities because I chose to only surround myself with university educated people. As a result, I live in Sussex and own multiple businesses, and I have never ever had a problem with police. I don't understand why just because we are black, the aspiration is hood life. I see all of these small sets and 13 year old making drill music inciting violence and bragging about committing crime or stabbing someone. These young boys are getting stabbed in London every day. I do believe there are socio-economic factors and systemic issues, but anyone choosing to cause terror and harm regardless of race is nothing more than a folk devil. I've heard nothing but victimhood culture blaming race and politics. There aren't race relation issues in the UK, but because people hold onto the past, everyone who is poor is a victim of injustice. The police shot a terrorist on London Bridge, and they shot a terrorist in Streatham. The people were all a great to society. We don't know all of the details of every tactical deployment, but my hunch is that there was enough intelligence to suggest that a tactical unit was required to apprehend some criminals. If you see police with guns, you surrender. What are police to do? Let a criminal escape because they didn't want to use force? That's how the UK becomes LA, and everyone will have a gun. Black people living in these conditions have a choice. The choice at the moment is to not unite against crime. Therefore, the cycle of poverty, criminality, state dependency, and poor life expectancy will not change. My final point is this, until people take accountability for their own actions (not this woke-socialist community nonsense), more young people will be affected by crime. The more young minds are exposed to dysfunctional behaviour, the sooner this becomes normalised, and they are desensitised to pain and suffering as this is what they know as normal. Fathers need to stay with their child's mother and create stability. The young people following someone like Chris Kaba followed his example mostly because they are not guided within the home, and most parenting is shouting or violence. Again, they become immune to pain and suffering, so how do they have regard for life if they aren't nurtured to value their own life? We need to get comfortable with being uncomfortable with reality; solve own social needs; and stop blaming others by default.
Yall are talking rubbish. Why didnt he just stop
Chris Kaba was a literal crash dummy 🤷🏿♂️
Poet forever looking like he doesn’t want to do podcasts. Lazy guy. Fix up
I know you man are doing your ting or whatever, but what is the need of the bottles of moet on the table? It's not a sign of affluence or opulence. it just seems like a wrong image.
Moet been sending them free bottles from long time
@@DARRENPeters-xw8md I wonder why?
@@moorefyre9381are you a child ? Alcohol is a poison they want our people intoxicated
I hear it the mums and aunties dont know
Sorry I have to say not separate yourself. Do something different, something better for yourself and your family and their future. We cant talk about Police killing us if we're killing ourselves. If the police stop you get out of your car first because you know what's going to happen. Do better stop the road man bullshit.
I agree with you for those who are determined not to listen or do better go away from everyone and go do it we didn't raise you to be like this so don't come near us and make us suffer.
To me he was aiming this at ppl that have chosen to do all this gangster rubbish they covered don't do road man in loads of episodes this was specific
Most black men aren’t roadmen
@@LondonMoneyCashEnterpriseMaybe not most, but a lot.
My issue is that regardless of his crimes, would the police have shot him so fast if he wasnt a young black man.....thats the question
Was Chris Kaba a criminal? Yes
Should he have been arrested? Yes
Was the killing justified? No
Regardless of how you act & behave you should be policed fairly .
They are trained to remain calm & professional in those situations.
Stop giving the police excuses
They need to do better as do we.
Shit takes for me.
A so it guh
You started by saying someone moved to him. He snuck up behind someone to shoot them, probably to kill them. This is the life he chose.
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