Atari 2600 Activision Plug-n-Play | Jakks Pacific 2004

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @GenXGrownUp
    @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +12

    🚨 U P D A T E S 🚨
    A keen viewer (or five) pointed out that, for a few of the games where two-player ALTERNATING is possible, there is a 2-player option still left in this system. It's only for two-player SIMULTANEOUS where it's completely removed.
    Similar is true for some difficulty switch options, but not all.

    • @only257
      @only257 8 дней назад +1

      I saw a Atari 7200 at my Walmart they wanted 65 bucks for it I live in Massachusetts 😊

  • @The_Badseed
    @The_Badseed 8 дней назад +8

    Jakks Pacific has an interesting history, their CEO first founded LJN then THQ. From action figures, to WWF games, to plug and plays like this (their Pacman P&P has sold over 15 million units), to licensed toys, they are still going strong 29 years later

  • @samhainnc9416
    @samhainnc9416 8 дней назад +5

    I just pulled mine out of the storage cabinet it was in. I forgot all about it until I saw your video.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +1

      That's how it works sometimes!

  • @MrVenom1974
    @MrVenom1974 8 дней назад +7

    Yes, I have this one, too. There were a lot of Plug&Plugs from Jakks. There was also an Atari stick.

  • @toastrave7820
    @toastrave7820 8 дней назад +8

    Hey Jon just wanted to say due to lacking siblings your videos always make me feel like i have an older brother explaining what games he played growing up.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад

      Wow. That's both flattering & humbling. I'm happy that you're enjoying my content in this way!
      Now, get out of my room, Squirt! And don't go cryin' to Mom about it! 😉

    • @toastrave7820
      @toastrave7820 7 дней назад

      @@GenXGrownUp thanks bro for the info & i won't be telling Mom

  • @iam16bits
    @iam16bits 8 дней назад +4

    In the early 00s I got the Atari version for Christmas. At that time I just getting to gaming history, so it was a perfect introduction to an era from long before I was born.

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 8 дней назад +2

    These plug and play systems were really good back in 2004, I had the Pac Man and Spider Man systems because they were cool for playing on CRT TVs! It was easy to plug directly into a Sony Trinitron’s front AV input and I do remember the Activision plug and play at a Toys R Us, but I bought Pac Man because of its replay value.

  • @tomevil6
    @tomevil6 8 дней назад +8

    Fun find even though it's not the best way to play these games! Great video as always!!!!

  • @edholzman
    @edholzman 8 дней назад +3

    If you look on the "game manual screen" for River Raid, Spider Fighter, Boxing, and Freeway, then you can see that there are button combos to set the difficulty level.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +1

      Most definitely. I've added a pinned comment to that effect.

  • @ctbinary42
    @ctbinary42 8 дней назад +3

    I remember seeing this for sale when it was new but I already had an Activision collection on the XBox (or PlayStation) so didn’t pick it up. Never thought it would last for 20(😱) years

  • @markracer3281
    @markracer3281 8 дней назад +3

    This reminds me of cheap vs. good beer...🙂 Thanks, Jon!!!

  • @chrisnizer
    @chrisnizer 8 дней назад +2

    Wish Jakks Pacific was still around and in business. That company made good high-quality affordable products. Didn't have to mess with downloading ROM's and BIOS files, do any configuration, just insert batteries and connect the 2 cables and you're retro gaming.

  • @tedadamgreen
    @tedadamgreen 8 дней назад +2

    Great find and video review Jon!
    This looks like it would have been great back in the day … much closer to the original than the Atari 2600 PacMan was for sure (low bar I know) but we were happy to get that, so I think many fans would have been happy to have this.
    And I never do multiplayer and am strictly a “player one” gamer so that absence of P2 duel play is fine with me.
    Thanks so much
    👊🏻🕹️😎

  • @a.k.aorangepenguin5032
    @a.k.aorangepenguin5032 8 дней назад +12

    it's strange to think this is the same company that would go on to be a billion dollar jerk

    • @joeboo8626
      @joeboo8626 8 дней назад +1

      Agreed. Activision became what its founders hated.

    • @bland9876
      @bland9876 8 дней назад +2

      Since when was Jakks Pacific "a billion dollar jerk"?

    • @shawncarter7188
      @shawncarter7188 5 дней назад

      ​@bland9876 the post is about Activision which is a rotten company today

  • @scottmanderson6387
    @scottmanderson6387 8 дней назад +1

    Pressure cooker was 1 of my favourites from Activision

  • @JackHammer77
    @JackHammer77 9 дней назад +1

    I bought one of those brand-new when it first came out. Still have it too.

  • @sandal_thong8631
    @sandal_thong8631 8 дней назад +1

    I have all these games for the Atari, except Boxing. My cousin gave me a joystick with Atari games to hook up to the TV like this one, but my old-fashioned TV didn't have those connections, and I probably had most of the games anyway.

  • @user-sw4qd2up2s
    @user-sw4qd2up2s 8 дней назад +1

    The pac man and ms pac man ones were great. All good games, played good, solid builds.

  • @AD.ArcadeGaming
    @AD.ArcadeGaming 8 дней назад +2

    This looks like an interesting pickup. Nice review.

  • @RayPruitt-ji9jx
    @RayPruitt-ji9jx 8 дней назад +1

    Just like from Jungle King to Jungle Hunt, the vine magically changes into a rope.

  • @user-sw4qd2up2s
    @user-sw4qd2up2s 8 дней назад +1

    I used to own several of those plug n plays, but not this one. At that time i would have loved this.

  • @OM19_MO79
    @OM19_MO79 8 дней назад +2

    That Crackpots is an NES port of Crackpots.
    Apparently, you are amongst those many who don’t know Spider Fighter.

  • @jayme69
    @jayme69 8 дней назад +1

    I remember when you could pick up these Jakks Pacific plug 'n plays for around £5 in the bargain bins. Should have got them when I had the opportunity :-) Keep up the awesome work Jon!

  • @KristianWontroba
    @KristianWontroba 8 дней назад +1

    Sound is definitely off with these ports. Great review!

  • @derekarmstrong1408
    @derekarmstrong1408 8 дней назад +1

    I thought I had all of the Jakks Pacific series. Never heard of that one... Jealous!

  • @kevinstrade2752
    @kevinstrade2752 8 дней назад +2

    3:30 polishing the knob eh?....so sorry had to! Havnt seen one these in years! Was curious on how these were.

  • @legendodinson7082
    @legendodinson7082 8 дней назад +1

    I got one of those and the namco one when it first came out. My Ms. Pac. Man one also takes two little cartridges so It can play almost ten games I think.

  • @DrDavelope
    @DrDavelope 8 дней назад +1

    I have this one! And the Atari branded one too. Both from a thrift shop but they weren’t exactly bargains. I liked the games but have moved on since the new consoles have been released.

  • @toastrave7820
    @toastrave7820 8 дней назад +1

    fun fact: the frogger theme song is actually a song by Yoshimi Sato in 1960 called Inu No Omawarisan which roughly means Mister Dog Police Officer

    • @bland9876
      @bland9876 8 дней назад

      Don't some Frogger games use a different song for some reason? I wanna say the 360 version is one of them.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад

      🐸

    • @toastrave7820
      @toastrave7820 7 дней назад

      @@bland9876 yeah i'm pretty sure it does but as i only played the 360 at an old friends house i'm not entirely sure

  • @willrobinson7599
    @willrobinson7599 8 дней назад

    I love these plug and plays. Got the commando one

  • @KatDoomsong
    @KatDoomsong 8 дней назад

    Thanks for mentioning the TAC II early on. I was already wracking my memory to try and remember what that stick was called.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад

      For sure. When I first saw it in the shop I thought, "Oooh, a TAC-2 controller," and was then surprised to see it was instead a Plug-n-Play.

  • @Monitor1CC
    @Monitor1CC 8 дней назад

    Was playing my newly acquired Taito SuperPocket a few days ago and was thinking to myself between that, the Evercade EXP and the My Arcade premium units just to name a few examples, it’s amazing how long we’ve come for authentic arcade at home and retro mini products. I still love these deep dives though from thrift stores and other places, it’s like retro archaeology!

  • @Bird_Dog2099
    @Bird_Dog2099 8 дней назад +1

    I was JUST looking at one of these!

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  6 дней назад +1

      Did you pick it up or pass?

    • @Bird_Dog2099
      @Bird_Dog2099 6 дней назад

      Passed on it, but I may circle back to it next paycheck : )

  • @ZMAN_420
    @ZMAN_420 8 дней назад +2

    Very Cool, I liked all 79 comments including my own. Help that algorithm folks.

  • @Shanesshiit
    @Shanesshiit 8 дней назад +1

    I have a few of those original controllers, that thing is based on

  • @SonnyGenX7373
    @SonnyGenX7373 8 дней назад

    Cool find and great review as always! That version of Pitfall was pretty crazy though. The collision detection on that cobra was so off and don't get me started on the swinging vine lol

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  7 дней назад +1

      I hear you on that! Pitfall on the Plug-n-Play is rough around the edges, to say the least.

  • @chrishensley5384
    @chrishensley5384 8 дней назад +1

    I have a Namco plug & play that has Pac Man, Galaga and a few others.

  • @iana6713
    @iana6713 8 дней назад

    I have one of these things - I have spent a bit of time messing around with it, having a surprising amount of fun in the process. Mine was curious in that when I got it, it was in the original box but what made it interesting was that the box and instructions are in German yet I'm in the UK. (The menu screen is very reminiscent of the one on the later Atari CX-40 style plug-and-play from Jakks Pacific, in my opinion.)

  • @RipVanXer
    @RipVanXer 7 дней назад

    love these treasure reviews. it's inspiration to go digging around - thanks Jon

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  7 дней назад

      Happy to hear you enjoy them. I keep forgetting to take a few seconds of footage at the store where I find these things. I think that would really help to tell the story, do you think?

    • @RipVanXer
      @RipVanXer 7 дней назад

      @@GenXGrownUp I could see it working as part of your B-Roll.. it would be cool to see the layout stores put these devices in.

  • @nahumgardner
    @nahumgardner 8 дней назад +1

    Another great video!

  • @jaycee_baron
    @jaycee_baron 8 дней назад +1

    Interesting. I wonder why they made it look sort of like a Suncom joystick?

  • @ZMAN_420
    @ZMAN_420 8 дней назад +1

    Great Content Jon!🤘🏻👍🏻🇺🇲

  • @alanbenson3104
    @alanbenson3104 8 дней назад +2

    It's like Invasion of the Body Snatchers: it LOOKS similar to the original but doesn't have the 'soul' of the original.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +1

      That's a really good analogy.

  • @BeefJerkey
    @BeefJerkey 8 дней назад +1

    Some of those games actually do have the difficulty switches implemented, toggled by button combos before you press start. Those are explained on the screens that tell you the controls.
    I had the Atari version of this (which had Adventure, Pong, Yars' Revenge and so on), and it was the same way. Menus looked exactly the same, and equally poor sound.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +1

      Yes, indeed. I missed that during production but please see my pinned comment.

  • @paulwarner8288
    @paulwarner8288 8 дней назад +1

    I could have enjoyed this 29 years ago I would have chosen different games. Such as adding Enduro and either kaboom or keystone kapers

  • @DarksladeDiaries
    @DarksladeDiaries 8 дней назад +1

    Both river raid and chicken had 2 player alt options on their on-screen instructions. Granted, it is not simultaneous, but that would be hard when the console is the controller.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +2

      You're absolutely right. I've added a pinned update comment.

  • @lucavercellotti9959
    @lucavercellotti9959 8 дней назад

    It's only another FamiClone. It could be interesting for a collector, not for play on it, just like Intellivision Plug&Play junks.
    Activision deserves much more than this
    Great video Jon

  • @RetroCave-wr9tl
    @RetroCave-wr9tl 7 дней назад

    I have this as well as the original Toymax version that came in a cardboard box (not in a clam shell). The original gamepad version has a bug where one of the colors is transparent that makes the bullets in Atlantis, and part of the fuel tanks in River Raid invisible. They fixed this in later models.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  7 дней назад

      Interesting. I hadn't seen any reference to a software revision between the two variants. Thanks for sharing this info!

  • @michaelstagg1506
    @michaelstagg1506 8 дней назад +1

    Wow
    Never knew this existing
    So cool
    Do you have lots of plus and plays ?
    Greet video

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  6 дней назад

      Thanks, Michael. I probably have a dozen or so. I've covered most of them right here on the channel if you'd like to browse back through the catalog. 😉

  • @chiefs300
    @chiefs300 8 дней назад +1

    You were explaining that there were no difficulty switches while showing the screen which explained how to change difficulty switches.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +2

      You got me! I missed that one.

  • @monolalia
    @monolalia 8 дней назад +1

    Odd decision to pack in all those sports games (and Freeway) and then make them single-player only.

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 8 дней назад

    I still have mine from when I was a kid. Spider Fighter uses select to swap between the bullet types. if you read the instructions it tells you what do do to change the player switches. boxing has 2 for example select changes one persons difficulty and holding fire wile hitting select changes the other.
    Freeway is 2 player and it says one button goes forward while the other goes back but I remember both buttons going forward as a kid giving P1 a huge advantage.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  7 дней назад

      Right you are. I added a pinned comment with this info shortly after publishing.

  • @danh433
    @danh433 8 дней назад +1

    7:29 crackpots says how to enter 2player alternating mode, 12:09 River raid instructions say how to play two player and set difficulty, 15:37 freeway has a 2 player mode??? But also shows how to set difficulty. Most of the games do in the controls section of instruction page…

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +3

      A-ha! Right you are! For games with two-player ALTERNATING there are some provisions. Thanks for the keen eye!

  • @tobycanrun
    @tobycanrun 8 дней назад +1

    Nice find💯

  • @malcolmmurphy2924
    @malcolmmurphy2924 8 дней назад +1

    Looks good to me.

  • @Mark-Wester
    @Mark-Wester 8 дней назад

    This is a nice little device for Activision games.

  • @tomw3599
    @tomw3599 8 дней назад

    The AtGames 2600 Activision 2018 version is pretty good. Activision behind Nintendo are possible the best long term video game producers.

  • @richboutin4044
    @richboutin4044 8 дней назад

    I’ve got one of these. Found it at a thrift shop for $3 many years ago. Highly recommend if you can find one.

  • @teddym2808
    @teddym2808 3 дня назад

    This was great, thanks mate :)

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 дня назад +1

      You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.

    • @teddym2808
      @teddym2808 3 дня назад

      @@GenXGrownUp I love all this retro stuff, really appreciate it. I didn't know this product was reprogrammed 2600 for NES chip games, some really good info there.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 дня назад +1

      @@teddym2808 I love all this retro stuff, too. 😊

  • @davefarley4318
    @davefarley4318 8 дней назад

    We at B.Y.O.A.C. (build your own arcade controls ) made arcade machines out of Jack's plug and play

  • @amare65
    @amare65 8 дней назад +1

    Jon, you don't know Jakk!

  • @kennethlove1089
    @kennethlove1089 8 дней назад

    I actually workd on this device back in the 2k's. The emulation / hardware used wasnt very impressive, but... what'ya' want for $20. I also worked on the original Flashback and FB2 as well. Hooray for me

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +1

      That's cool, Kenneth! Were you employed by Toymax or a contracted engineer?

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 8 дней назад

    Thanks Jon.

  • @ianhilmer2673
    @ianhilmer2673 8 дней назад +1

    Actually, people always say that Freeway was a rip off of frogger but technically (on difficult A) the game is actually closer to the 1973 arcade game Space Race🚀.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +1

      👌

    • @OM19_MO79
      @OM19_MO79 8 дней назад +1

      The concept has been there, like, forever. The game might be the most popular (Seinfeld helped a lot on that), but if there’s a thief, that’s Frogger. If you ever wonder why Frogger’s recent ports and sequels don’t have most of the music, is because they ripped them off from quite a few animated shows from the 70s. That was quite common in the 80s, but Frogger ripped off a lot.

    • @toastrave7820
      @toastrave7820 8 дней назад +1

      ​@@OM19_MO79 fun fact: the frogger theme song is actually a song by Yoshimi Sato in 1960 called Inu No Omawarisan which roughly means Mister Dog Police Officer

    • @OM19_MO79
      @OM19_MO79 4 дня назад

      @@toastrave7820 I know. And there's also bits of Hana no ko Lun-Lun, Oshiete, Mahō Shōjo Lalabel and I believe two others.
      The fun fact is that it still has about 2 or 3 tunes that can be used.

  • @RobertHustwick
    @RobertHustwick 8 дней назад +1

    I remember this thing. I didn't buy it because I had the Activision Classics collection on Playstation 1. Also, it didn't have Fishing Derby. What kind of fool at Activision decided to leave that one out?

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +1

      That's another one that's at least twice as good with a human opponent. 🎣🦈

    • @toastrave7820
      @toastrave7820 8 дней назад +1

      there's also a GBA version that if i remember correctly has fishing derby

  • @grotgrusson5124
    @grotgrusson5124 8 дней назад +1

    I absolutely love the A2600. I found an Atari plug n play in a good will store, but it was the padel version, and the games on that console was quite boring, esp for their asking price...
    But regarding the controller you got, kind of reminds me of those classic Amiga 1000 controllers, Tec 2?
    * ED:
    _TAC 2_ 😄

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +1

      I agreed! 2:29

    • @grotgrusson5124
      @grotgrusson5124 8 дней назад +1

      Yheeeh, I just noticed that, and was supposed to edit my post: "Just like you said" 😄👍

  • @MarcKloos
    @MarcKloos 8 дней назад +1

    Freeway - read the instructions on screen, there are difficulty switches and ... 2 player mode?!

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад

      Yes, indeed. I missed it at production but please see my pinned comment.

  • @RandomBitzzz
    @RandomBitzzz 7 дней назад

    @2:29 When I saw this it immediately reminded me of the TAC 2

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  7 дней назад

      When I first spotted it on the shelf, I was like, "Oh, cool, a loose TAC-2 controller," but got closer and found it was more. 😁

  • @BrianJonson
    @BrianJonson 6 дней назад

    Bonus! We get a brief ASMR of cleaning an old joystick

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  6 дней назад

      Right? Put that on a loop and enjoy a nice nap! 😴

  • @mattc1974
    @mattc1974 6 дней назад

    I got this back in the day. Still have it. I thought it worked well.

  • @SoulforSale
    @SoulforSale 8 дней назад

    Maybe I should go to more antique shops. I thought all they had were chairs.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад

      Heh. Believe me, the ratio of old, high-backed chairs to cool vintage gaming finds is skewed waaaaaay in the favor of chairs, but every once in a while you'll strike gold.

  • @Tinmancr1
    @Tinmancr1 8 дней назад +1

    Yeah unless people play the real games these emulators or really bad ripoffs like this don't seem that odd to them, people still claim the like 3r iteration of Flashback "has a 2600 inside it" an early chip cloning method but there is zero Atari hardware in it.

  • @only257
    @only257 8 дней назад +1

    Great 😌 😊

  • @consty715
    @consty715 8 дней назад

    “Thats not right syndrome “😂 i think i have that

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад

      Haha! I hear you can get a shot to clear that up. 😉

  • @Nikademus1969
    @Nikademus1969 8 дней назад

    Videogames in the antique store...we be old😹😹😹😹

  • @intellivisiongamer
    @intellivisiongamer 7 дней назад

    Never seen this before.

  • @joeboo8626
    @joeboo8626 9 дней назад +2

    Where did you get that groovy T-Shirt?

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  9 дней назад +1

      From our store! www.teepublic.com/stores/genxgrownup?query=fruit

    • @dantewaldrop704
      @dantewaldrop704 9 дней назад +1

      I think he made it himself

  • @OrdoNekro
    @OrdoNekro 8 дней назад +1

    I’m wondering if anyone has ripped the rom to slap onto an NES cart? I’ve tried one that did that with the Intellivision games!

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  6 дней назад

      I looked but couldn't find it anywhere.

  • @benb3316
    @benb3316 8 дней назад

    This was the "Nintendo on a Chip" era.
    Literally that, the basic system behind NES sold very cheaply on scale like Raspberri Pi minis are today. They couldn't do proper emulation software which was being developed anyways so they had cheap programming teams re-create them with "Uh, if it looks like it on the surface" quality assurance so-so. Wasn't shovelware they had legit effort but nothing compared to the talent/effort that made the same arcade game for 6 home systems of varying levels of nowhere near enough graphics, memory, speed... This was "We can't drag and drop so..." cheap quick. I didn't like the Intellivison one of this era since I'd played the D&D game renamed to Crown of Kings. Nintendo DS was far better as a 1:1 emulator the far more advanced mini console could casually handle.
    And not bashing - but again "Nintendo on a Chip" era so it was like those ads for top hits you saw late at night but they weren't the single you liked but some kinda ok quality re-do of it.

  • @mikesilva3868
    @mikesilva3868 8 дней назад

    Great 😊

  • @NovaWittmer
    @NovaWittmer 8 дней назад

    i like these things. But there really better plugnplay systems by Jakks and other companies. I really love my Mrs Pacman (the blue one); the little box sized thing by namco, The mortal Kombat and of course the spongbob and scooby doo plug n plays.

  • @jessragan6714
    @jessragan6714 8 дней назад

    Waiting for an Activision collection on the Xbox, now that Microsoft owns the rights. How long has it been since we got a decent Activision collection? Twenty years ago, on PS2?
    As for these early plug 'n plays, they're often Famiclones, and the difference between the ports and the originals is obvious. VERY obvious, in the case of the Intellivision ones.

  • @billyg8142
    @billyg8142 8 дней назад +1

    Wow love your show but you are hard on this it's a impulse buy

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +1

      Thanks! I'm sure I would've judged it quite differently 20 years ago. 😉

  • @mattsmedley.onehandedgamin9029
    @mattsmedley.onehandedgamin9029 8 дней назад

    I've got the other shaped version of this and it is terrible.
    You see Activision, which always meant quality on a 2600 cartridge yet this device has terrible lag.
    I'll stick with the original system.

  • @bruceaskew2107
    @bruceaskew2107 7 дней назад

    No combat 😞

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  7 дней назад

      Iconic game, but would be pretty pointless with a single joystick since all variations of Combat require two human opponents.

  • @katmacoconnor
    @katmacoconnor 7 дней назад

    🕹️💜

  • @acem7749
    @acem7749 5 дней назад

    Nes on a chip? Nes games faking to be 2600?

  • @seha6391
    @seha6391 9 дней назад +1

    ya ok but an insult to activation

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  9 дней назад +1

      A sign of the times.

    • @MistaMaddog247
      @MistaMaddog247 8 дней назад +1

      Not when they were collecting licensing fees...

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  8 дней назад +2

      @@MistaMaddog247 What's the ellepsis? What aren't you saying?

    • @tedadamgreen
      @tedadamgreen 8 дней назад +1

      @@MistaMaddog247what is the longer story or opinion here … very curious now to hear more for sure!