Since you mentioned running a Tremor team, might I suggest going for a Tremor team for Don's Canto? Of course, you'd be running T Corp Don, and she fights pretty well as far as I've seen. I'm sure you have a few IDs you can use to get a team going. Heck, even Base Meursault and Ishmael can do well in one (they both have Tremor Burst skills that don't reduce Count like the other Tremor IDs do, and still work quite well all in all)
1:00:15 one thing to point out here. Nelly Ryoshu has a special dialogue in the Nelly fight. She said "S.A.D. You are a failure of a Chief Butler". This makes total sense once you see her uptie story which is sick! 1:23:15 that's the best part of wuthering heights, everyone has their own fair share of wtf moments. While what Nelly said was true to both Heathcliff and Catherine, it can also be applied to her. She is also part of the problem like you said, everyone is. Wuthering Heights is such a shitshow of miscommunication, assumptions and misunderstandings.
I really like how mersault is slowly developing with each chapter, for me he turned from a pretty much whatever to a really interesting character despite how rarely he even talks.
Agreed, the completely unprompted Chains of Others really adds to it all. That, and his attempt to console Heathcliff during the will reading as well as suggesting that they should abandon the Bough in favor of Heathcliff's safety really stand out to me this Canto
Great work with both of those fights, Foreman! I gotta say, threadspinning the EGOs you normally use to at least tier 2 would be best, cuz some EGO passives can be pretty helpful. Although, Tier 3 does give the whole custom background which can definitely help in its own way (by making the style points go even higher~!) I was sad when I learned Nelly was the traitor. Her first interaction with Heathcliff when he first returned to the manor earlier in the Canto really made me like her. She was so warm to him, and everyone else introduced later was so cruel. Aside from "Matthew" of course, who I also liked because of his good nature towards heath (and Dead Rabbit Meursault's Uptie Story shedding more light on his goodness) I can't wait for you to witness this Canto's finale, I'm so stoked~
Potential Man in the first half, with that dedicated passive to him, made that ID go hard. The bosses in the latter half end up shooting him in the foot with unclashables, sinking stacking, and much more. On the final fight, while i did win with him as the main role, it felt incompatible with the mechanics, and nearly broke down my entire strategy and cost me a win. In the end i did a rematch with, of all things, a fully kitted Base ID Heathcliff and was shocked at the night and day difference. Thematically and mechanically he kicked ass, and really goes to show how even the long forgotten Base IDs can still do the work of the 2 and 3 stars if you let them.
Tbf he's using 2 00 IDs none of which are good in clashing and potential man for being an absolute mess so, yeah (I don't remember what team Foreman had for Ricardo tho)
44:11 if someones health is dropped below their stagger threshold by an effect like burn or bleed, they wont stagger, but next time theyre hit theyll get staggered. outis had already been dropped past their first stagger threshold by bleed, so the hit finally triggered stagger
For those unaware, this even works on attacks that deal 0 damage. There's a few of those special attacks on some bosses, and they will absolutely stagger a bled out sinner. What's even funnier is Sinclair's Soup EGO, it targets allies to heal them and does 0 damage, but it will still stagger them if they bled out below their thresholds. Basically, if a sinner bleeds below their thresholds, just tapping them with a finger will cause them to stagger.
@@DemPop Theres also another case where they try to use an attack that takes away HP and puts them under the threshold, like using a corroded ABS with Ishmael. The clash will happen, but right as the actual move is about to happen it gets cancelled and she becomes staggered.
Snagharpoon's Compulsion passive is a little interesting- even in a "neutral" clash, it gives benefits based on whether or not the chances of winning are below or above 50%. since the neutral range is 30%-70%, you have no way of knowing whether or not it's helping or hurting in a neutral clash
48:20 it will be canto 12, as to whether that will be the last one it's looking unlikely given the recent announcement of 10 more years of limbus ahead of us, they did already say that they plan to do limbo and paradiso too so who knows
That is the single criticism I have about Canto 6, I feel like understanding Nelly's motives and perspective can only really be done if you know what happens in the Wuthering Heights book. Like, Nelly's comment about this being the "better ending" for Catherine and Heathcliff only really makes sense if you know what Heathcliff does in the book version of Wuthering Heights in pursuit of his revenge/romance of Catherine.
Basically: Cathy is destined to die (from despair of not being able to be with Heathcliff), Heathcliff is destined to go mad from grief and either goes Erlking mode or just becomes the Heathcliff in the book. Nelly doesn't want to deal with any of that. You can kinda see her ultimate fate through Chief Butler Ryoshu's Uptie story as well, and it's overall not an ending she would want.
He should really save for walpurgisnacht given that we know the absolute peak that is coming with that one, ain’t no way foreman isn’t gonna want a certain [redacted]
@@thefrostbite1135 Good point but, even Foreman can see the Canto Node Counter on the top right of the game. He does check it to see which node he needs to EX and stuff. Lets just agree to disagree on this matter, cause it beginning to become an argument instead of a discussion in the comments. Thanks and have a nice day!
Foreman: "I think this fight was harder than it should've been" Sinners that are 40 out of 45 lvl: "You don't say" And as for Erlking I have only one issue the with him - if I could apply explosive emotions on my team SAME TURN - the fight would be less bullshit and more exciting and dynamic IMO
sorry to be that guy but echoes of the manor isn't cumulative so it will be set to either 3 or 2 the turn after using outis or faust skill 3 respectively
Congratulations on beating Erlking Heatchliff and Nelly! Next time around, you'll experience some pretty peak moments. Vergilius showing up was peak, but I personally feel the best is yet to come. Also, here is the EGO reviews, since... I somehow forgot to mention it last time??? Hex Nail (Faust): Hex Nail is a rather strong EGO that is also quite pricy, costing 6 Envy resources, which makes fuelling it.. a bit awkward, but the payoff is worth it. When you fire off Hex Nail, it gives the enemy an effect called "Curse", which only increases the EGO's damage by 50%. Nifty, but ultimately inconsequential. The OTHER effect of inflicting stacks of Envy and Pierce Fragility is much more useful, especially in Charge teams. Charge (Or more specifically, WARP Don Quixote, WARP Ryoshu and Rabbit Heathcliff) all have Envy S3s that deal bonkers amounts of damage, with Rabbit Heathcliff even being pierce. That means if you fire off Hex Nail the same turn, before you fire off those nukes, they will deal significantly more damage. It's quite good. Ya Śūnyatā Tad Rūpam (Outis) This EGO's name is hell to spell. Anyway, this EGO heals the user's SP, gives allies Attack Power Up at higher Uptie Levels, and inflicts Lust Fragility. One would expect this to be as good and useful as Hex Nail, since it offers Affinity Fragility... the problem is that outside of a handful of exceptions such as Ring Yi Sang, there aren't that many strong Lust skills, which makes this effect a lot harder to use properly. Still good, but requires much more finesse to properly utilize.
Hex Nail also dopes an enemy up with enough negative status effects that Ring Sang can start blasting his Sanguine Pointilism at maximum coin reuse odds
THE MULTITUDE TIGHTENS ITS HOLD I have so many mixed feelings towards Nelly. I understand why she'd be broken after finding out she gets screwed over due to Cathy and Heath's 5D chess attempts at communicating their feelings, but in our mirror world she basically set off a self-fulfilling prophecy by stopping what little communication they DID try to have. 3:55 In case you haven't noticed, there's something written above the icon.... Hi grandpa!
I mean, it's not really a self-fulfilling prophecy because Nelly actively gave up on trying to help Catherine and Heathcliff resolve their issues in order to pursue her own freedom. "This is this, and that is that." She cares about Catherine and Heathcliff. But enough to willingly resign herself to a fate she is certain is inevitable if she stays here? Really, the crux (and tragedy) of the issue is that Nelly believed that Heathcliff and Cathy were incapable of change due to seeing the countless Mirror Worlds where they didn't, and dragged her into their drama. We know that Heathcliff had changed and probably stood a good chance of actually resolving his feelings towards Catherine one way or another, but Nelly couldn't possibly have known that the one version of her that finally realized that Heathcliff and Cathy were consuming her life also belonged to the one Mirror World where Heathcliff had actually changed for the better.
I do agree with you about the distorted Hindley. It would maybe be too easy if you had another turn to kill him, but for teams without good wrath damage it's rather punishing, and especially since it comes after the previous two adds you have to kill with a more lenient time limit. I get the idea of building up resources and skills so you can rush him down, but I'd rather he have more HP and give you 3 turns to finish him off. Still, I adore that fight, and to me it was the hardest one of the Canto, but opinions on the difficulty are divided. Many people found distorted Heath to be the hardest, so it's all over the place. I obviously love the difficulty in general, I too want this game to get to Ruina levels of fuckery. Nelly, on the other hand... her plot twist is probably my least favorite thing about this Canto, and I feel like the fight itself breaks the pacing a bit. She was very easy to me, but that's probably due to sinking + slashing obliterating her, Dieci Hong Lu nullifies her existence. The music is unfittingly cool, but I feel like the fight itself is sorta... unnecessary. Same with the twist narratively, I understand its point and how it relates to the book, but the game's story itself doesn't have enough narrative context to justify it completely. It felt like a bump in the road, whereas the rest of the game's pacing was constantly increasing.
As for what you said about using tremor, next Intervallo encourages the use of tremor, so perhaps you can try it a bit then. Personally, I find tremor really fun.
I did the canto before the nerfs, and the only fight I had any trouble with was Matt. I used the same comp as you do, except for Boatmael (who's a much better sinking ID than Ishmaid), and Tree Sang instead of Ryoshu (who doesn't synergise with the sinking team whatsoever). Nelly having a 10-turn EX limit was by far the biggest issue so because her sanity mechanics cause heavy diminishing returns on Sinking, that was solved by using the poise team instead. I've tried using Rodieci for a few fights because of Rime Shank into sinking deluge, but I found that generally she's too count negative to be worth it overall.
I had brought N-Corp team to the Canto and I got beat up a lot by the first few bosses, no thanks to the Nailbat inflicting both Pierce and Blunt damage on hit. On the other hand, the last few bosses were crushed by N-Corp being capable of inflicting coin roll down, power down and other debuffs which gutted enemy rolls and allowed even N-Saults skill 1 to win clashes. Felt really good to have a season 1 team wreak havoc even this late into the game.
Good job with these two fights Manager Esquire, i struggled with them quite a bit as well. I reset the Erlking fight quite a few times but if you see the starting 3 grunts as walking SP batteries and kill them instantly with your best units to give them a head start on SP you can deal with the first Emotion relatively safely but the rest of the fight is still tough. Nelly on the other hand is just a DPS race, if you let Binding Technique stack up to 3 that unit is just gone, so you have to make sure to stagger her constantly to reset the Binding Technique counter before half your team gets perma staggered, definitely my least favourite fight in this Canto but at least she's an absolute joke in Mirror Dungeons where you can kill her in 2 turns easily XD And atop these stairs you shall find another piece of PEAK storytelling, and by far my favourite fight in the whole game, so i am incredibly excited to watch you experience both. Good Luck Manager Esquire!
1:20:30 yeah right, imagine you just had love of your life leave you, you are locked in your room withering away and then one person who always was with you as you were growing up, basically part of your family walks up to you and goes "yeah okay so i know you're feeling down but can i emmm leave now?"
I love how you're implying (maybe not intentionally) that manipulating a vulnerable and sheltered person (Edit: Who trusts you *implicitly*) whilst also withholding messages from the person she cares about most without her knowledge or consent because you're sick of their drama is somehow a more morally justifiable decision than just walking away from the situation.
I guess this is the mirror's way of balancing misery. If the Heathcliff and Catherine of this dimension were going to have a better future than that of the other dimension parallels would've had, then something had to sabotage it. And that something was Nelly.
I don't think the Erlking fight is too bad. Most of your problems came from Heathcliff corroding, which put you on the back foot for the wrath phase. I personally struggled more with the distorted Heathcliff fight so I think the difficulty is pretty well tuned. The fights aren't THAT much harder from each other, it just really depends a lot on your team comp and how well you play.
Nelly on the books was about 5 year older than Heathcliff and cathy thay ehy she look so young. She was kind of a older sister/mother figure for Heathcliff. In the book it is imply that Nelly may had romantic feeling for Heathcliff as she is very angry about cathy words and was ones of the few to defended Heathcliff at the beginning. I like how they portray Nelly in limbus is interesting twist to her situation in the book been stock on the storm that is Heathcliff and cathy relationship.
The thing that pisses me off about Nelly is that she complained about them not being able to communicate, while directly sabotaging their attempts to communicate by burning the letters. In all honesty it's fairly likely our world was then single world where Cathy and Heath could have gotten together. It's wholly unlike most if not all of the other worlds and she let Hermann get into her head and convince her that it's pointless, when in reality, had she HELPED them instead of being passive aggressive like in the other worlds (assuming it's like it is in the books) none of the horrible shit she saw would have happened. But that's because she's a fantastic character simply acting in her nature. Like self fulfilling prophecies it's her acting in her nature that causes her problems, and in doing so she makes everything worse. The other characters in the canto are pretty much the same way, unable to better themselves. Our world shows that the two CAN take that step, unlike the others.
The Nelly fight is just an RNG fest at lv40 due to how punishing it can be to lose a clash. At lv45 the extra points of clashing power edges out and makes the fight a lot more consistent. I wouldn't necessarily call it a skill issue.
by the way it's worth mentioning that heathcliff will get a thing that improves his SP for the end of the canto, so you maybe dont wanna use potential man for that
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Since you mentioned running a Tremor team, might I suggest going for a Tremor team for Don's Canto? Of course, you'd be running T Corp Don, and she fights pretty well as far as I've seen.
I'm sure you have a few IDs you can use to get a team going. Heck, even Base Meursault and Ishmael can do well in one (they both have Tremor Burst skills that don't reduce Count like the other Tremor IDs do, and still work quite well all in all)
1:00:15
Maid Ryoshu dialogue, roasts Nelly for being bad at being Nelly.
1:00:15 one thing to point out here. Nelly Ryoshu has a special dialogue in the Nelly fight. She said "S.A.D. You are a failure of a Chief Butler". This makes total sense once you see her uptie story which is sick!
1:23:15 that's the best part of wuthering heights, everyone has their own fair share of wtf moments. While what Nelly said was true to both Heathcliff and Catherine, it can also be applied to her. She is also part of the problem like you said, everyone is. Wuthering Heights is such a shitshow of miscommunication, assumptions and misunderstandings.
The only reason Mersault hasn't killed the Head yet is because Dante didn't ask him to.
I really like how mersault is slowly developing with each chapter, for me he turned from a pretty much whatever to a really interesting character despite how rarely he even talks.
Agreed, the completely unprompted Chains of Others really adds to it all. That, and his attempt to console Heathcliff during the will reading as well as suggesting that they should abandon the Bough in favor of Heathcliff's safety really stand out to me this Canto
57:13 when watching this cutscene for the first time I got the impression that Faust is talking about her own experience with the Mirror
Great work with both of those fights, Foreman! I gotta say, threadspinning the EGOs you normally use to at least tier 2 would be best, cuz some EGO passives can be pretty helpful. Although, Tier 3 does give the whole custom background which can definitely help in its own way (by making the style points go even higher~!)
I was sad when I learned Nelly was the traitor. Her first interaction with Heathcliff when he first returned to the manor earlier in the Canto really made me like her. She was so warm to him, and everyone else introduced later was so cruel. Aside from "Matthew" of course, who I also liked because of his good nature towards heath (and Dead Rabbit Meursault's Uptie Story shedding more light on his goodness)
I can't wait for you to witness this Canto's finale, I'm so stoked~
so THATS what did the custom backgrounds! i never figured out what caused the ego backgrounds to change, this makes so much sense!
Potential Man in the first half, with that dedicated passive to him, made that ID go hard. The bosses in the latter half end up shooting him in the foot with unclashables, sinking stacking, and much more. On the final fight, while i did win with him as the main role, it felt incompatible with the mechanics, and nearly broke down my entire strategy and cost me a win. In the end i did a rematch with, of all things, a fully kitted Base ID Heathcliff and was shocked at the night and day difference. Thematically and mechanically he kicked ass, and really goes to show how even the long forgotten Base IDs can still do the work of the 2 and 3 stars if you let them.
I mean base heath might as well be one of the best base id's in the game
What is interesting is that he had less trouble with Ricardo it seems than with Heatcliff
Ricardo is a DPS Check. Heathcliff is a "Suffer lmao".
Tbf he's using 2 00 IDs none of which are good in clashing and potential man for being an absolute mess so, yeah
(I don't remember what team Foreman had for Ricardo tho)
I was using Liu for Ricardo, which turned out to be an almost perfect unintentional counter to him, which was a pleasant surprise.
44:11 if someones health is dropped below their stagger threshold by an effect like burn or bleed, they wont stagger, but next time theyre hit theyll get staggered. outis had already been dropped past their first stagger threshold by bleed, so the hit finally triggered stagger
Small correction for those who don't know: burn does stagger the unit if health drops below the threshold
@@firetruck_Poison as well but thats far more rare
@@Puffman728 wish we get to see more poison enemies. Feels just like Ruina's burn
For those unaware, this even works on attacks that deal 0 damage. There's a few of those special attacks on some bosses, and they will absolutely stagger a bled out sinner.
What's even funnier is Sinclair's Soup EGO, it targets allies to heal them and does 0 damage, but it will still stagger them if they bled out below their thresholds. Basically, if a sinner bleeds below their thresholds, just tapping them with a finger will cause them to stagger.
@@DemPop Theres also another case where they try to use an attack that takes away HP and puts them under the threshold, like using a corroded ABS with Ishmael. The clash will happen, but right as the actual move is about to happen it gets cancelled and she becomes staggered.
Snagharpoon's Compulsion passive is a little interesting- even in a "neutral" clash, it gives benefits based on whether or not the chances of winning are below or above 50%. since the neutral range is 30%-70%, you have no way of knowing whether or not it's helping or hurting in a neutral clash
48:20 it will be canto 12, as to whether that will be the last one it's looking unlikely given the recent announcement of 10 more years of limbus ahead of us, they did already say that they plan to do limbo and paradiso too so who knows
Kinda meant last Sinner Canto, not last thing they ever do but cool, looking forward to it Edit: Excluding Dante
That is the single criticism I have about Canto 6, I feel like understanding Nelly's motives and perspective can only really be done if you know what happens in the Wuthering Heights book.
Like, Nelly's comment about this being the "better ending" for Catherine and Heathcliff only really makes sense if you know what Heathcliff does in the book version of Wuthering Heights in pursuit of his revenge/romance of Catherine.
Basically: Cathy is destined to die (from despair of not being able to be with Heathcliff), Heathcliff is destined to go mad from grief and either goes Erlking mode or just becomes the Heathcliff in the book. Nelly doesn't want to deal with any of that. You can kinda see her ultimate fate through Chief Butler Ryoshu's Uptie story as well, and it's overall not an ending she would want.
Foreman, I think you should save up your lunacy for the event IDS and EGOS next week cause they look cool as fuck.
You’re right, but the slots call…
Gamling addiction says the otherwise
we need to gamble
He should really save for walpurgisnacht given that we know the absolute peak that is coming with that one, ain’t no way foreman isn’t gonna want a certain [redacted]
@@freddywright4239 Do you know how little [redacted] narrows it down? (he would absolutely want every single thing)
Great series of battles, Nelly is still my favorite of the cast even after the betrayal. Looking forward to the next episode!
How does it feel to have pure PEAK right around the corner.
Excruciatingly waiting.
Please don't allude to future content
@@thefrostbite1135 Its not exactly a mystery that nearly every Canto's end is peak. I'd be very disappointed to be proven otherwise in future Cantos.
@@-Ripica- yes, but
you're leaving the implication that the end of the canto is right around the corner
which is not what someone would expect
@@thefrostbite1135 Good point but, even Foreman can see the Canto Node Counter on the top right of the game. He does check it to see which node he needs to EX and stuff.
Lets just agree to disagree on this matter, cause it beginning to become an argument instead of a discussion in the comments. Thanks and have a nice day!
Foreman: "I think this fight was harder than it should've been"
Sinners that are 40 out of 45 lvl: "You don't say"
And as for Erlking I have only one issue the with him - if I could apply explosive emotions on my team SAME TURN - the fight would be less bullshit and more exciting and dynamic IMO
7k congrats btw
The Multitude Tightens Its Hold,Danteh.
Nelly when she tried to change her life by getting involved into something so much worse
sorry to be that guy but echoes of the manor isn't cumulative so it will be set to either 3 or 2 the turn after using outis or faust skill 3 respectively
Don't know how I didn't notice, but at least I know now, thanks!
Congratulations on beating Erlking Heatchliff and Nelly! Next time around, you'll experience some pretty peak moments. Vergilius showing up was peak, but I personally feel the best is yet to come. Also, here is the EGO reviews, since... I somehow forgot to mention it last time???
Hex Nail (Faust):
Hex Nail is a rather strong EGO that is also quite pricy, costing 6 Envy resources, which makes fuelling it.. a bit awkward, but the payoff is worth it. When you fire off Hex Nail, it gives the enemy an effect called "Curse", which only increases the EGO's damage by 50%. Nifty, but ultimately inconsequential. The OTHER effect of inflicting stacks of Envy and Pierce Fragility is much more useful, especially in Charge teams. Charge (Or more specifically, WARP Don Quixote, WARP Ryoshu and Rabbit Heathcliff) all have Envy S3s that deal bonkers amounts of damage, with Rabbit Heathcliff even being pierce. That means if you fire off Hex Nail the same turn, before you fire off those nukes, they will deal significantly more damage. It's quite good.
Ya Śūnyatā Tad Rūpam (Outis)
This EGO's name is hell to spell. Anyway, this EGO heals the user's SP, gives allies Attack Power Up at higher Uptie Levels, and inflicts Lust Fragility. One would expect this to be as good and useful as Hex Nail, since it offers Affinity Fragility... the problem is that outside of a handful of exceptions such as Ring Yi Sang, there aren't that many strong Lust skills, which makes this effect a lot harder to use properly. Still good, but requires much more finesse to properly utilize.
Hex Nail also dopes an enemy up with enough negative status effects that Ring Sang can start blasting his Sanguine Pointilism at maximum coin reuse odds
I can FINALLY finish this video and continue to the next EP as I wanted to learn the fight for myself.
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I have so many mixed feelings towards Nelly. I understand why she'd be broken after finding out she gets screwed over due to Cathy and Heath's 5D chess attempts at communicating their feelings, but in our mirror world she basically set off a self-fulfilling prophecy by stopping what little communication they DID try to have.
3:55 In case you haven't noticed, there's something written above the icon....
Hi grandpa!
I mean, it's not really a self-fulfilling prophecy because Nelly actively gave up on trying to help Catherine and Heathcliff resolve their issues in order to pursue her own freedom.
"This is this, and that is that."
She cares about Catherine and Heathcliff. But enough to willingly resign herself to a fate she is certain is inevitable if she stays here?
Really, the crux (and tragedy) of the issue is that Nelly believed that Heathcliff and Cathy were incapable of change due to seeing the countless Mirror Worlds where they didn't, and dragged her into their drama. We know that Heathcliff had changed and probably stood a good chance of actually resolving his feelings towards Catherine one way or another, but Nelly couldn't possibly have known that the one version of her that finally realized that Heathcliff and Cathy were consuming her life also belonged to the one Mirror World where Heathcliff had actually changed for the better.
I do agree with you about the distorted Hindley. It would maybe be too easy if you had another turn to kill him, but for teams without good wrath damage it's rather punishing, and especially since it comes after the previous two adds you have to kill with a more lenient time limit. I get the idea of building up resources and skills so you can rush him down, but I'd rather he have more HP and give you 3 turns to finish him off.
Still, I adore that fight, and to me it was the hardest one of the Canto, but opinions on the difficulty are divided. Many people found distorted Heath to be the hardest, so it's all over the place. I obviously love the difficulty in general, I too want this game to get to Ruina levels of fuckery.
Nelly, on the other hand... her plot twist is probably my least favorite thing about this Canto, and I feel like the fight itself breaks the pacing a bit. She was very easy to me, but that's probably due to sinking + slashing obliterating her, Dieci Hong Lu nullifies her existence. The music is unfittingly cool, but I feel like the fight itself is sorta... unnecessary. Same with the twist narratively, I understand its point and how it relates to the book, but the game's story itself doesn't have enough narrative context to justify it completely.
It felt like a bump in the road, whereas the rest of the game's pacing was constantly increasing.
Foreman is a gambler at heart.. but the regret will come in soon when a super cool identity comes. 😭
I will note: Your lower levels certainly weren't helping against Nelly! But hey, you made it.
22:38 Here, you could've used Gregor's evade, it'll dodge through all attacks, as long as you target it properly.
I've been getting really into "damage" lately.
As for what you said about using tremor, next Intervallo encourages the use of tremor, so perhaps you can try it a bit then.
Personally, I find tremor really fun.
Ayyy buddy, nice to see yo again :D
@@princeoflemons212 Regent of the citrus! Its always so nice seeing you around!
Hyped for the new event coming next week? I know I am.
@@nikmaxter you bet I am, hahaha. Wish you good luck with the event next week!
@@princeoflemons212 No need, Im sharding everything hahaha. I do hope you get the IDs and EGO too. Take care and keep well~
Don't listen to the potential man naysayers. I beat the whole canto with potential man in the team BEFORE the nerfs on day one
This Canto is peak after peak
I remember Ricardo fight...
When I spend like 4-5 retries to actually see his coupons attack and not "win".
Snacks are a fantastic idea for the next portion
I did the canto before the nerfs, and the only fight I had any trouble with was Matt. I used the same comp as you do, except for Boatmael (who's a much better sinking ID than Ishmaid), and Tree Sang instead of Ryoshu (who doesn't synergise with the sinking team whatsoever).
Nelly having a 10-turn EX limit was by far the biggest issue so because her sanity mechanics cause heavy diminishing returns on Sinking, that was solved by using the poise team instead.
I've tried using Rodieci for a few fights because of Rime Shank into sinking deluge, but I found that generally she's too count negative to be worth it overall.
I had brought N-Corp team to the Canto and I got beat up a lot by the first few bosses, no thanks to the Nailbat inflicting both Pierce and Blunt damage on hit. On the other hand, the last few bosses were crushed by N-Corp being capable of inflicting coin roll down, power down and other debuffs which gutted enemy rolls and allowed even N-Saults skill 1 to win clashes. Felt really good to have a season 1 team wreak havoc even this late into the game.
The fights got nerfed, although not by much. Mainly just lower numbers for unclashables and the like
Good job with these two fights Manager Esquire, i struggled with them quite a bit as well.
I reset the Erlking fight quite a few times but if you see the starting 3 grunts as walking SP batteries and kill them instantly with your best units to give them a head start on SP you can deal with the first Emotion relatively safely but the rest of the fight is still tough.
Nelly on the other hand is just a DPS race, if you let Binding Technique stack up to 3 that unit is just gone, so you have to make sure to stagger her constantly to reset the Binding Technique counter before half your team gets perma staggered, definitely my least favourite fight in this Canto but at least she's an absolute joke in Mirror Dungeons where you can kill her in 2 turns easily XD
And atop these stairs you shall find another piece of PEAK storytelling, and by far my favourite fight in the whole game, so i am incredibly excited to watch you experience both.
Good Luck Manager Esquire!
1:00:14 lol ryoushu
S.A.D (such a disappointment)
1:20:30 yeah right, imagine you just had love of your life leave you, you are locked in your room withering away and then one person who always was with you as you were growing up, basically part of your family walks up to you and goes "yeah okay so i know you're feeling down but can i emmm leave now?"
I love how you're implying (maybe not intentionally) that manipulating a vulnerable and sheltered person (Edit: Who trusts you *implicitly*) whilst also withholding messages from the person she cares about most without her knowledge or consent because you're sick of their drama is somehow a more morally justifiable decision than just walking away from the situation.
@@ForemanPlaysStuff Condemning one choice does not imply that the other one is better
I guess this is the mirror's way of balancing misery. If the Heathcliff and Catherine of this dimension were going to have a better future than that of the other dimension parallels would've had, then something had to sabotage it.
And that something was Nelly.
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Dead by Dawn Jumpscare!
I don't think the Erlking fight is too bad. Most of your problems came from Heathcliff corroding, which put you on the back foot for the wrath phase. I personally struggled more with the distorted Heathcliff fight so I think the difficulty is pretty well tuned. The fights aren't THAT much harder from each other, it just really depends a lot on your team comp and how well you play.
Yo man, don't forget to check Heath's Canto Buff 😉
Nelly on the books was about 5 year older than Heathcliff and cathy thay ehy she look so young. She was kind of a older sister/mother figure for Heathcliff. In the book it is imply that Nelly may had romantic feeling for Heathcliff as she is very angry about cathy words and was ones of the few to defended Heathcliff at the beginning. I like how they portray Nelly in limbus is interesting twist to her situation in the book been stock on the storm that is Heathcliff and cathy relationship.
The thing that pisses me off about Nelly is that she complained about them not being able to communicate, while directly sabotaging their attempts to communicate by burning the letters. In all honesty it's fairly likely our world was then single world where Cathy and Heath could have gotten together. It's wholly unlike most if not all of the other worlds and she let Hermann get into her head and convince her that it's pointless, when in reality, had she HELPED them instead of being passive aggressive like in the other worlds (assuming it's like it is in the books) none of the horrible shit she saw would have happened. But that's because she's a fantastic character simply acting in her nature. Like self fulfilling prophecies it's her acting in her nature that causes her problems, and in doing so she makes everything worse. The other characters in the canto are pretty much the same way, unable to better themselves. Our world shows that the two CAN take that step, unlike the others.
Holding onto pain....
Driven by our egos...
Feelings untold
Feelings untold..
spinning our own
versions of the past
I liked the part where you skill issued 👍🔥
Ryoshu to Foreman: S.I
The Nelly fight is just an RNG fest at lv40 due to how punishing it can be to lose a clash. At lv45 the extra points of clashing power edges out and makes the fight a lot more consistent. I wouldn't necessarily call it a skill issue.
Luck is a skill, so bad luck is in fact a skill issue
I am wuthering out! 🗣🗣🗣🗣
Oi, foreman! Got any more of this limbus? Its peak
Ooooooohh nelly
SCHLIMBUS SCHLOMPANY
I just wanna say. Ryoshu can solo Nelly. Simply a player/luck issue
You know I don’t
These fights have already been nerfed, wouldnt want anymore changes. Almost near the end now.
I mean the pre nerf version wasn't too bad except for the EX clears.
by the way it's worth mentioning that heathcliff will get a thing that improves his SP for the end of the canto, so you maybe dont wanna use potential man for that
Please don't allude to future content
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I'm pretty sure the fight wouldn't be so hard if you were level 45