US Soldiers in Camo Shot by Mistake? (The biggest myth about WWII uniforms)

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Комментарии • 815

  • @johantaube3022
    @johantaube3022 Год назад +11011

    Wow, the allied and German uniforms are really hard to tell apart. Especially back when they hadn't invented color yet 😢

  • @patryksobol690
    @patryksobol690 Год назад +3113

    Everybody could mistake each other, everything was black and white back then

  • @AAAComics
    @AAAComics Год назад +2533

    Never knew that. You could see some Marines with the pacific with em but no all of them. Did they just have them tied to the haversack?

    • @freduinst4333
      @freduinst4333 Год назад +79

      The marines used the camo first, and the tied camo was a shelter half

    • @huasohvac
      @huasohvac Год назад +23

      ​@Freduinst it was a poncho they attached to their packs. They used the poncho more than their shelter halves in combat.

    • @freduinst4333
      @freduinst4333 Год назад +14

      @@huasohvac most didn’t roll up the poncho and put it on using the attached loops of a m41 pack system upper, most put it in the flap of the haversack. Also they put it into the “combat pack” also known at the m41 lower. The shelter half was always tied to the m41 pack upper when in use. The poncho was also considerably darker than other frog skin colored items.

    • @duckattak
      @duckattak Год назад +18

      Yeah it worked best in the pacific jungles. Not so much in European towns or snow

    • @NiggaMind69
      @NiggaMind69 Год назад +2

      @@huasohvac It’s a shelter half

  • @BBGS11_Lego
    @BBGS11_Lego Год назад +648

    "My bad, just testing friendly fire. You'll respawn in a bit"

    • @ComeAndTakeIt9235
      @ComeAndTakeIt9235 Год назад +15

      They didn’t have the reboot card back then that came in 1956

    • @Wickedonezz
      @Wickedonezz Год назад +6

      Operation cottage moment

    • @ultraraptor7969
      @ultraraptor7969 11 месяцев назад +5

      Damnit Jack! We're on Hardcore mode!

    • @sp00k48
      @sp00k48 5 месяцев назад

      @@ComeAndTakeIt9235 I thought it came after Vietnam.

  • @JaredOtto
    @JaredOtto Год назад +483

    Wow. I’ve beloved that myth for a while. Thanks for setting things straight!

    • @MWM499
      @MWM499 Год назад +3

      Yep! Same here. Mike B ingrained that into my memory’s d I’m glad to see that I’ve been corrected.

    • @BARelement
      @BARelement Год назад +3

      You loved a myth abt ppl dying?

    • @Syvern.
      @Syvern. Год назад +5

      ​@@BARelement He meant believed. You knew that yet you still decided to make your unfunny comment.

    • @SinAster_19
      @SinAster_19 Год назад

      ​@@Syvern.Dude he literally mispelled believed as beloved
      Aint no one using their brains while watching youtube shorts
      Buzz off

    • @pempotfoy6206
      @pempotfoy6206 9 месяцев назад +1

      I think I saw this myth for the first time on the history Channel with a small recreation of Americans and Germans shooting their own guys

  • @justin764
    @justin764 Год назад +583

    Fun fact: during the Vietnam War lots of GIs purchased duck hunter pattern camoes from their allied forces because they blend in best with jungle environments

    • @cantsneedgaming4591
      @cantsneedgaming4591 Год назад +10

      I have a set of the duck hunter camo pants from like kmart or something in the 60s

    • @derhistorien5295
      @derhistorien5295 Год назад +9

      That was also how tigerstripe came into circulation.

    • @jean-lucwalker3690
      @jean-lucwalker3690 Год назад +15

      Would you rather fight a thousand duck-sized vietkong or one vietkong-sized duck?

    • @jerbs5346
      @jerbs5346 Год назад +3

      ​@@jean-lucwalker3690Both.

    • @Drownedinblood
      @Drownedinblood Год назад +2

      They don't actually...it was just what was available, like tiger stripe which was taken from the arvn.

  • @davidhargraves4031
    @davidhargraves4031 Год назад +30

    Man this kid looks exactly like captain America before the transformation

    • @tovarisch3490
      @tovarisch3490 8 месяцев назад

      He is wearing a shirt in these videos

    • @HappyArchaeology-mm4ng
      @HappyArchaeology-mm4ng 7 месяцев назад

      Too funny.

    • @liyre4189
      @liyre4189 2 месяца назад

      Wait until you see the video of him in a tank top 💀 that’s post serum through and through

  • @UnionGaming1
    @UnionGaming1 Год назад +164

    I still love the M41 summer jacket better than all of those

  • @turnedwheat2013
    @turnedwheat2013 Год назад +5

    The way you said, " No! It's not true." Is the best

  • @chrisabraham8793
    @chrisabraham8793 Год назад +9

    I studied this a few years ago, the mistaken identity theory about mistaking this camo with German camo uniforms is a bit of a myth. The US top brass wanted to standardise uniforms to the 43 pattern but there was a shortage of 43 uniforms being made in time for the D day landings, so in later June these camo uniforms were available in stores and were used to make up the shortage until 43 stocks were made up. The army cammos were used stateside for a lot of training, it was these stocks that went on to Normandy. These cammos can still be seen being worm as late as September in the Battle for Brittany France either pants or jacket. They weren't discarded but handed in at R&R for a new set of clothing as the cammos were of limited stock. At a certain distance the cammo pattern on both German and US blends as one colour. The US top brass were in favour of the British uniform and thought Brit commonwealth troops looked very smart and uniform, hence the ike jacket worn near the end of the war by the US.
    The British also mistaken the US army with their M1 helmets in North Africa as Italians. Later in the war the British paratrooper smoke was near pattern to the German style of camo, the British snipers also used German camo smock for cover but no report of mistaken identity.

  • @Liu7159
    @Liu7159 Год назад +61

    This dude time traveled from WW2 just to make shorts, props to him

  • @Boyd6763
    @Boyd6763 Год назад +4

    FINALLY someone who knows the real reason why the camo uniforms werent issued anymore..
    Btw another reason why it wasnt issued any more was that the USMC needed more fabric so the army camo resources went to the USMC for the PTO

  • @eracli0
    @eracli0 Год назад +2

    Bro LOOKS like a soldier from WWII… that’s blowing my mind 🤯

  • @huntclanhunt9697
    @huntclanhunt9697 Год назад +119

    There were friendly fire incidents, but not any more among that unit than any others.
    My assumption is logistics and delivering the uniforms to specific units was a problem.
    That being said, the marine squad that worked with the OSS behind enemy lines used frogskin helmet covers

    • @wargey3431
      @wargey3431 Год назад +3

      The places we know of FF incidents were mainly where the uniforms were very similar
      RTR tankies in their black coveralls for instance looked like Panzer Crews a couple of times they were shot at
      And their are accounts that Paras wearing their Denny’s were shot at because they looked like Germans funnily enough neither the Dennison Smock or the black coveralls were withdrawn from service

    • @aydeng00
      @aydeng00 Год назад +1

      As a slightly colorblind person, I can definitely see a dark green uniform being confused for a brown one. Color blindness is affected by distance and surrounding lighting too, meaning it would take a second to tell who it is.

    • @huntclanhunt9697
      @huntclanhunt9697 Год назад +1

      @@wargey3431 Paras had a lot of friendly fire just due to the nature of their job and being behind enemy lines. Uniforms might not have mattered there.

  • @Crazy-Chicken-Media
    @Crazy-Chicken-Media Год назад +8

    When adjusted for inflation, it cost $256 per infantry soldier to be equipped with gear.
    It currently stands at around $18,000 today.

  • @williswerckle1856
    @williswerckle1856 Год назад +2

    The only uniform that I ever heard of being discontinued were the Herringbone Tweeds because they somewhat resembled waffen ss camo uniforms.

  • @justizz707
    @justizz707 Год назад +4

    TLDR: It doesn't work and faded quickly

  • @johnbertram975
    @johnbertram975 Год назад +1

    A WWII vet I knew said the Army issued the camo uniforms as work uniforms in the US. He said he painted his barracks in those camo uniforms.

  • @DeadtownNothing
    @DeadtownNothing Год назад +4

    Still more effective camouflage than UCP

  • @turtlegaming4427
    @turtlegaming4427 Год назад

    Finally somebody who makes good yt shorts

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 Год назад +1

    USA WWII camo a real collector's item and rare no doubt.

  • @AmazonArrow1570
    @AmazonArrow1570 Год назад +2

    Imagine mistaking your friend for a German soldier right after he comes out from battle and you shot him, that would be so sad 😞

  • @ElijahCinco51484
    @ElijahCinco51484 Год назад +28

    Great video, your very educational

  • @Mimi-ml5ty
    @Mimi-ml5ty 9 месяцев назад

    My stepdad's grandma was full-blooded German as well as my stepdad to my children . There great people .

  • @drewmurdough3137
    @drewmurdough3137 Год назад +22

    It actually is well documented in the 2nd Armored that GIs were mistaken for SS due to the similar camo patterns.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk Год назад

      SS was a tiny minority of German forces.

    • @ghettobecher1352
      @ghettobecher1352 Год назад +3

      ​@@dannygjk Not really. Especially in the later war times.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk Год назад +1

      @@ghettobecher1352 What do you mean when German forces were decimated?

    • @ghettobecher1352
      @ghettobecher1352 Год назад +3

      @@dannygjk Its still a fact that the ss had over 900000 members with 38 Divisions in the field. The Wehrmacht had about 2.75 Million Soldiers in the field in 1939. Peak was 17,3 Million Soldiers.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk Год назад +6

      @@ghettobecher1352 You are including everyone and their dog in that 900,000 - not proper SS.

  • @Smevan-dp7lt
    @Smevan-dp7lt Год назад

    And the Darker Green looks amazing.

  • @PleaseTryAgainLater
    @PleaseTryAgainLater Год назад +24

    love this dude. it's like he was plucked for the original version of all quiet on the western front. he honestly looks so jolly, that it's infectious.

  • @dylanlawson9097
    @dylanlawson9097 10 месяцев назад

    friendly fire is basically unavoidable in most situations

  • @NickFord-h5m
    @NickFord-h5m Год назад

    THANK GOD I’ve seen so many stories on the internet about how people were mistaken as Germans, and I’m glad this finally was revealed.

  • @ieatleadpaintchips
    @ieatleadpaintchips Год назад +205

    They used the same camo uniforms they did in ww2 during the Korean war, and I have my great grandpa's frog camo jacket from Korea (im not sure if he wore one in ww2 as well, but if he did it's probably been thrown away because of the deterioration) so I can say for certain those uniforms were not that great. They ripped easily, the camo wasn't that great, and they faded fast.

    • @ericoberlies7537
      @ericoberlies7537 Год назад +22

      Funny, your great grandfather fought in the Korean War and my (I’m 59) great grandfather fought in the Civil War.

    • @ghostrider.13
      @ghostrider.13 Год назад +6

      They used them in Nam too.

    • @PWingert1966
      @PWingert1966 Год назад +2

      the dye used in he camo patterning was acid and caused the cotton to degrade more quickly. Add in heay, moisture and acid sweat and enzymes fromfrom excertion and that is the result.

  • @snokey1153
    @snokey1153 7 месяцев назад +1

    Imagine being shot, but your in Japan

  • @talonyte9050
    @talonyte9050 Год назад

    Love this war guy, should expand into another 50 years of history

  • @JamesLandan-o5m
    @JamesLandan-o5m 2 месяца назад

    “Kraut!!!” *Fires three shots, and missed every single one* “Oh wait, it’s just Johny.”

  • @arkan5000
    @arkan5000 7 месяцев назад +1

    Betrayal.
    Betrayed.

  • @IraqVet0608
    @IraqVet0608 Год назад +1

    Hmmmm, as he was describing the defects of the uniforms, I can’t help but think of the ACU.

  • @PWingert1966
    @PWingert1966 Год назад +1

    Even these days camo patterns can be failures. One recent attempt actually made personnel easier to see since it didn't incorporate enough brown and earth tones elements in it. Humans' eyes react quickly to movement. changes in pattern in areas around them are ancestrally triggered from prehistoric times.

  • @ajarciaga8864
    @ajarciaga8864 Год назад

    Logistics makes much more sense than friendly fire by camo.

  • @scottydog1313
    @scottydog1313 11 месяцев назад

    Another major factor he forgot to mention, was that they were a lot hotter to wear than standard uniforms. They didnt breath nearly as well, and the troops overheated more easily as a result.

  • @rbfsenpai3722
    @rbfsenpai3722 8 месяцев назад +1

    Just remember the us army dropped 5 billion on the worst camouflage ever made and it was less effective than wearing on solid color

  • @shooch9135
    @shooch9135 9 месяцев назад

    Friendly fire is a record that no country wants to document.

  • @maliceharding4668
    @maliceharding4668 Год назад +3

    My grand uncle was 2nd armored through out the war he was issued a set of the hbt camo in the Normandy campaign and state there where shelled by the Canadians on several occasions but that might have just been a Canadians issue he wore his camos until he got to Berlin

  • @DXB1975.
    @DXB1975. Год назад +1

    Bro got that 1940s drip🥶

  • @nanmuncher
    @nanmuncher Год назад +7

    hes so freakin handsome

  • @GabrielStanard
    @GabrielStanard Год назад

    You were never playing enlisted high AF at 2 am thinking you stumbled on a german flametrooper

  • @bromodz2309
    @bromodz2309 Год назад

    This guy looks like captain America before he got the super soldier serum

  • @shootindoc1jam_n80
    @shootindoc1jam_n80 6 месяцев назад

    The OD green is a great base by itself. Often with sweat stains or lite streaks of black paint and dirt along with natural camouflage they blend exceptionally well. No matter how good a camo pattern the first dead give away will be movement. Still love the OG107’s for cost/utility/comfort/color base

  • @ThunderMuffinMan
    @ThunderMuffinMan Год назад

    That first sentence ran on for half a day.

  • @jesusamador4661
    @jesusamador4661 Год назад

    I can only imagine how valuable that uniform is now.

  • @Pisttolz
    @Pisttolz 11 месяцев назад

    Real reason: everyone who wore them, as soon as they put them on, were never seen again

  • @StillSyl
    @StillSyl 8 месяцев назад +1

    Uh, am I the only one who feels like he’s staring into my soul?

  • @SGTDuckButter
    @SGTDuckButter Год назад

    This dude knows, he was there.

  • @bearjam5372
    @bearjam5372 11 месяцев назад +1

    While its always an important factor to consider, cost wasnt as big of one for the US compaird to other countries.

  • @RufusLeeKing
    @RufusLeeKing 8 месяцев назад

    "Ah my foot!"
    "My bad."

  • @yellowjackboots2624
    @yellowjackboots2624 Год назад +1

    Talking of friendly fire, it's estimated that a third of all Allied casualties in Italy during WW2 were caused by friendly fire.

  • @njth7392
    @njth7392 10 месяцев назад

    I’m pretty sure that’s why PID is a think [Positive Identification] for those who don’t know helps make sure your not firing at friendly or civs

  • @WW2Trooper505
    @WW2Trooper505 10 месяцев назад

    FINALLY!!!! A youtube vid passing out the correct info on this nice work mate

  • @problemletstalknoletschat2288
    @problemletstalknoletschat2288 Год назад

    Funny thing is that cammo in ww2 not only used darker but also bright colors like yellow,etc.

  • @andyspeakerman3048
    @andyspeakerman3048 10 месяцев назад

    My old man was a sea bee in the navy in the Pacific , and later reached the rank of Capt. in the army's corp of engineers . My stepdad was a waist gunner in a B17 . I'm glad people are remembering WW2 . You know your stuff .

  • @SwordTune
    @SwordTune Год назад

    "More expensive" is all the reason they need.

  • @JK-fu1bn
    @JK-fu1bn Год назад +1

    these shorts are so good

  • @kyliemoore9013
    @kyliemoore9013 Год назад +2

    I like the logic here"Omg I can't see you but I can see the German in you!"

  • @ButterBallTheOpossum
    @ButterBallTheOpossum Год назад +1

    I'll bet those camo uniforms are worth a pretty penny if you could find one that survived

  • @clashwithbossyt
    @clashwithbossyt Год назад

    So glad I found this channel ive been in love with ww2 history since I've been raised by my great grandmother who was born before ww2

  • @minimee1712
    @minimee1712 Год назад

    There's something about this guy that just sells the fact he looks like a ww2 soldier

  • @leosypher9993
    @leosypher9993 Год назад

    Back in the day, camouflage uniforms where expensive to make

  • @KM-qk1oz
    @KM-qk1oz Год назад

    The battlefield today: everyone wearing multicam*

  • @eldesconocidosenork5981
    @eldesconocidosenork5981 Год назад

    Because they were expensive. It always boils down to that

  • @valiantsfelinesmccarty6678
    @valiantsfelinesmccarty6678 Год назад

    Thank you for such well researched videos. It's nice to see someone young taking an interest in history.

  • @Sirtophergo4
    @Sirtophergo4 Год назад +1

    Yes but they came up with a different camel that was lighter

  • @pineapple2665
    @pineapple2665 6 месяцев назад

    US ARMY camo uniforms was supplied to not only 2nd Armored div. but also to 13th Airborne Div. in Asian campaigns

  • @leomalamis1068
    @leomalamis1068 2 месяца назад

    My great grandfather was part of one of the few units in normandy which used the camo uniforms. He was part of second armored 41st armored infantry

  • @rogerstroklund6809
    @rogerstroklund6809 9 месяцев назад

    It did happen to the US Navy Seabees in Desert Storm. They were the last US unit to change away from the Green Satins (pronounced sateens), which happened to be the same surplus uniform the Iraqis were issued when they were supported by the US in the eighties.

  • @auruxwilldecideyourfate
    @auruxwilldecideyourfate Год назад

    the medic symbol on a helmet is a target, aim for the middle of the cross and you get more points

  • @joerodriguez6048
    @joerodriguez6048 Год назад

    My father who was in World war II . Said that he liked the camouflaged German paratrooper pant because it had many compartments, and it was a wel made
    pair of pants. So he wore them and carry a Luger he had removed from a Nazi prisoner. He wore the pants because they had many
    compartments, and he carried the Luger because he knew they would shoot him instead of taking him prisoner. He preferred death over being a prisoner.

  • @EunjiDaisyXoXo
    @EunjiDaisyXoXo Год назад

    today when everyone wears multicam 👁️👄👁️

  • @13kellyr
    @13kellyr Год назад

    Friendly fire happens more often than people think

  • @darnko3198
    @darnko3198 8 месяцев назад

    Dang they really want to turn friendly fire on

  • @Takedownairsoft1
    @Takedownairsoft1 Год назад

    If someone made the mistake, they either never lived to tell the tale, or weren’t going to to tell the tale, pretty embarrassing and mentally painful doing that.

  • @kaytlynspicer6518
    @kaytlynspicer6518 Год назад

    I just want to say right now I'm writing a novel set during WW2 about an American soldier in Europe You have no idea how helpful these shorts are!

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 Год назад +1

    Never heard of that.

  • @mido3332
    @mido3332 Год назад

    "are you German?"
    "No"
    "Okay, move Along"
    "Gott sei Dank"

  • @NateCovington
    @NateCovington Год назад

    They should've just turned off friendly fire

  • @zeropointomega545
    @zeropointomega545 Год назад +1

    ACUs didn’t blend in either yet they used those for like 20 years💀

  • @dylsenchanted
    @dylsenchanted Год назад +2

    he is so fine...

  • @thedailycollecter9624
    @thedailycollecter9624 Год назад

    Imagine your friend accidently shoots you like I would be confused

  • @AnonD38
    @AnonD38 Год назад

    I mean yeah, wouldn’t want to document my guys getting killed /killing by friendly fire either.

  • @Puppy_Puppington
    @Puppy_Puppington 8 месяцев назад

    It sucks that friendly fire has been a thing for forever and happens as a cherry on top of the horror of war :(

  • @TurboinVR
    @TurboinVR Год назад +1

    Bro really needs to be my history teacher

  • @vodoojones3630
    @vodoojones3630 2 месяца назад

    The Germans had some pretty drippy camo patterns.

  • @ericscottstevens
    @ericscottstevens Год назад

    US troops invading southern France during operation (Operation Dragoon) painted their uniforms camo while wearing them in sprayed paint. They resorted to putting boxes on their heads not to breath in the paint while being painted.

  • @TheM4Sherman
    @TheM4Sherman 11 месяцев назад

    The only thing what comes in my memory is that the 2nd Armored Division used them for there Armored infantry. The 41st infantry regiment used them to support tankers. Those are one of the units I have known as a Armored guy.

  • @mattlawrence1932
    @mattlawrence1932 Год назад

    The "dark green" uniforms color is actually called Olive dab 7 , the lighter more tan colored uniforms were called Olive dab 3

  • @Theironbloodcommander
    @Theironbloodcommander Год назад +1

    Ahem no "DOCUMENTED."

  • @Geoduck.
    @Geoduck. Год назад +1

    Interesting. I've read in a few places that friendly fire was the reason. We do know camo was used in the pacific.

  • @danielrendon8555
    @danielrendon8555 6 месяцев назад

    They didn't work in the snow but great for Marines in the Pacific.

  • @F4FWildcat
    @F4FWildcat Год назад

    The Marines in the Pacific had issues with the cammos fading. So I believe this to be true.

  • @zebradun7407
    @zebradun7407 Год назад

    Camo uniforms work when the soldier is sitting still, once the soldier started to move it made them stand out.

  • @Mikhail_Vladinochy
    @Mikhail_Vladinochy 11 месяцев назад

    German Bois be getting shot back in '45

  • @Deer_Clown
    @Deer_Clown 11 месяцев назад

    people often mistake me for a smart person

  • @FNWendigo
    @FNWendigo Год назад

    RIP Sgt Talbert.
    Real ones know.