I love the art depicting Huan as a big fluffy dog. A sheepdog with a shaggy and cuddly face, the nicest of boys, slaughtering werewolves left and right.
I like Huan being an Irish Wolfhound😊 They awesome dogs and look the part But they are cowards and have the sweetest souls, they are a new invention , not the actual ones who fought the wolf's in Ireland 🇮🇪 😢
Man, the story of Beren and Luthien/Huan and the werewolves is one of the best tales in the Tolkien universe. Just imagine, if done correctly of course, how amazing that story would be on the big screen
Not very, because fluffy dog fighting a wolf would look silly. Also you'd need to jettison 90% of the irrelevant/redundant nonsense to make it presentable on big screen...
@@KuK137mate... What are you actually even doing here? If you think Tolkien's storytelling is "irrelevant/redundant nonsense" why are you watching a video about said nonsense? Seems like you're a little confused. Just search My Little Pony in the search bar I'm sure that'll be more you're speed.
Huan was a great hound and a faithful companion of Beren and Luthien. Would be great to see a faithful adaptation of this story on screen. Thanks for such a beautiful story telling Matt ❤
Any depiction of Morgoth or the Silmariles on screen would be disappointing Even if you got the team from The Lord of the Rings movies, gave them all the time in the world (unlike The Hobbit), it would still be disappointing, it still would not depict the full Evil of Morgoth or the Holy Beauty of the Gems with any satisfaction. They are divine, any depiction will dispoint, same for the Queen of Doriath (can't remember her name) and Sauron. Only Howard Shore would come close, only music could depict it with any satisfaction. Which might explain why the only real adaptation of the Silmarillon is an Opera.
@@Hundredyacrewoods I appreciate your view. It is Melian, and Cate Blanchett is already taken! I agree very few actors could do this. They would need to be early middle age and classically trained on the stage with the baseload of a string of nuclear power stations. That goes for all the leads. It is a sorry testament to the profession that we struggle to think it even possible. I think the stage is where we seek the talent. Cinema is not a great source at the moment.
@@kennethsatria6607 Exactly what I was thinking. For instance, the only way I can see an adaptation of the creation myth portion is an abstract _Fantasia_ animation, like stars dancing through space to music.
I saw a werewolf sipping a pina colada on Tol-in-Gaurhoth. His hair was perfect. Awoooooooooo, Werewolves of Sauron! (Sorry, couldn't resist. Great video as always.)
Great video! Nerd of the Rings' next video should be about Huan the Hound. His aid in assisting Beren and Luthien during their quest for the silmaril would be crucial in bringing down Morgoth and his sacrifice during his fight with Carcharoth would ensure that Beren and Luthien's sacrifice would result in their descendants becoming great kings, warriors, and healers for thousands of years.
@TheBigheadValley not to everyone. Rather than patting yourself on the back for knowing certain things about an enormous world maybe welcome new people in with a little humility?
Been looking forward to you covering this subject. I found the stories about the werewolves one of the highlights of reading the Silmarillion, and the image Tolkien conjured of Tol-in-Gaurhoth as a foreboding, haunted and misty 'Isle of Werewolves' along with the many battles fought there made for an unforgettable read.
You make really the best content on RUclips, love to watch this channel. Continue making lots of videos man! And maybe an another magic the gathering match, was fun to watch haha
The tales involving Huan and Carcharoth remind me the most of Beowulf out of Tolkien's writings I've read. The whole of those passages has a Norse epic poem feel to it.
That episode of the werewolf who kept killing Beren's companions one by one while they were imprisoned is definitely based on the imprisonment and torture of Sigmund, a hero from the Old Norse Völsung Saga, whose brothers were killed off by a she-wolf until he was freed. Like Beren, Sigmund too wore a wolf skin for some time (although idk why). But it does reflect Tolkien's knowledge on these stories
Wargs and werewolves are not the same as far as Tolkien is concerned, right? Cause I can only imagine how TA Sauron woulda fared if he had the might, abilities and thralls that FA Sauron had.
Insteresting. I read somewhere that the Great Goblin of the Hobbit was also another one of those beings "inhabited" by a dark power; not really a orc/goblin, but something more powerful in goblin form.
There are discussions about the Goblin King, Azog and Bolg being, at the very least, descendants of corrupted Maiar who took the shape of great Orc-captains and bred with other orcs.
@@leonardofaber5823 I like the theory that some Maia took the forms of Orcs and the like; it explains things like some of them being quite long-lived and the memories the Goblin-King had of Orcrist and Glamdring.
The fact that Tolkien probably wrote his lore on the werewolves of Middle-Earth many decades before _The Wolf Man_ basically solidified the modern conception of the creature is something I wish more fantasy writers would keep in mind when writing werewolves into their stories.
@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandleyes but be careful whichone u gonna order,cause the one i got had no sauron no werewolves inside.instaid a huge cats the lord of cats and his minions.apparently it was the VERY early writings of tolkien before he creates sauron idk.and the moment I realized i stopped reading it😂🤣
I like how Carcaroth was basically a dragon+ level threat after eating the Silmaril. Just a whirlwind of burning death that scared everything out of Anflauglith and busted straight through the girdle (something Sauron couldnt do). Dude was just short of Ancalagon in how insane a rampaging power he was
Please cover thuringwethil and the vampires in the next video. She is my favourite minor character. Btw what is the music you use in your videos, it's super cool. Love all your vids. Oh yeah what is the art at 4:23, it makes for an amazing wallpaper.
Sauron be like "Hey that's cheating!" Forgetting Huan just demolish the better part of an entire race of evil without taking a break. So really, she was just evening things out
There are many versions of werewolves in literature. The original cursed ones of history. The Garu of Werewolf the Apocalypse. Underworld. Even I had writen my own version in three books.
Really interesting parallel between Carcharoth and Sauron's "fell beasts" of the Third Age! Never saw that connection, because the texts are so far apart. As a side note, this piece about werewolves eventually slides into a retelling of Beren and Luthien...given that so much of Tolkien's mythology is interconnected, it might be better to focus each video on one subject, even if that means making it shorter. Otherwise, you run into the problem of retreading the same ground as other videos. That's a small quibble -- your videos are amazing, keep it up!
On that note, Can you do a Video on the Wargs? Other videos that would be interesting include: Frodo Baggins - how haven't you done a video on him yet? Yet surprisingly few people do. Eru Iluvitar J.R.R Tolkien - the man himself Christopher Tolkien An updated Legendarium reading order - where does "The Fall of Númenor" fit in he Hobbit folklore - found most prominently in the "The Adventures of Tom Bombadil" poetry collection (which you left out of your Legendarium reading order) And perhaps some of Tolkien's other works: Roverandom, Farmer Giles of Ham, his actual academic works, ect. Love your videos
Let's think about this for a minute: Huan overpowered First Age Sauron 1v1. 1st Age Sauron is more powerful than 3rd Age Sauron, because his power is still undivided: the equivalent of 2nd Age Sauron with the Ring. Yet even in his weakened state, 3rd Age Sauron was easily the most powerful being in Middle-Earth. Not even Gandalf or Galadriel could face him head-on. Also, it's implied that Carcharoth is more powerful than Glaurung himself: "Of all the terrors that came ever into Beleriand ere Angband's fall, the madness of Carcharoth was the most dreadful, for the power of the Silmaril was hidden within him." First Age power levels are pretty insane.
Great video. Never really gave a thought on werewolves. Are there any mention of where wargs came from, besides the theory that they came from the possible line of werewolves? That would be an interesting video. As always thanks, waiting on next Saturday.
Wargs could be half-werewolf, and half-wolf. They are mentioned seperately from werewolves and regular wolves, so maybe they are somewhere in the middle.
@@Paulafan5 thanks. I also thought because Sauron was a master manipulator, maybe he crossed wolves and large boars. just my thinking. However thanks for replying.
Sauron's title of Lord of the Werewolves seems to have originated when he, like them, belonged to the felinetrovert family and was known by the name Tevildo (as noted in Tolkien's earlier drafts). Werewolves may be derived from the wolf type (a sub-creation of Yavanna) among the instinct-driven kelvar. It is possible that Sauron gave these wolves a humanoid form by bodily transformation, and evil spirits may have incarnated into these transformed bodies. They differ from the Wargs in their physical and spiritual aspects. Wargs are malevolent creatures that have been transformed from wolves (but not given a humanoid form like werewolves) and have no will (without a soul).
I’d love to see a video of you. If you were in charge of creating a TCU Tolkien Cinematic Universe or maybe TCA Tolkien Cinematic Arts. A long video of you laying out a map of trilogy movies. Anthology movies and series. What stories/characters would you start with.
I hope the War of the Rohirrim movie succeeds and that it inspires more independent story line movie adaptions for LOTR with one of them being on the story of Beren & Luthien. Would love to see some of the following things take place on TV show or a movie: 1) Beren's revenge hunt on the orc captain who took his father's hand/ring 2) The Battle of Songs between Finrod and Sauron 3) Huan the Hound fighting and defeating Dragulin and Sauron 4) How Luthien enchants the entire chamber of Morgoth to sleep 5) The Company's hunt for Caracaroth and Huan's final words with Beren Honorable mention to another movie finding a way to put the Fall of Gondolin on the big screen too!
When I hear the word werewolf my mind goes to lycans. Tolkien's version is just as interesting, no surprise there. Wish we could've seen them portrayed in the movies.
I always assumed that werewolves mentioned in the Silmarillion were just a placeholder name for large wolf-like beings and Tolkien later changed his mind and decided to call them wargs, accidentally missing a few references to the original name, however that line from Gandalf where he mentions both in the same sentence does give me pause.
In the real-time strategy game Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle-Earth II - Rise of the Witch-King, the Angmar civilization can summon a giant wolf-like humanoid creature called the Shade of the Wolf. Perhaps it was one of the werewolves that survived into the Third Age?
I really love your videos. I've been watching your content for awhile, and often I use your videos to dive further into Tolkien while I read his books or watch Jackson's interpretation. I'd love to know what you think would happen if Gollum had never escaped the elves of Mirkwood. Would Frodo and Sam never figure their way out to the black gate? Would they both have still been captured by Faramir? Would the Ring Wraiths seize the ring from Frodo at Mount Doom?
Are you planning on making a lore video about the Vampires too? Or is there not enough information surrounding them to work with? I have always loved these videos and was curious if you had any plans regarding the bats of Middle-Earth, not just the vampires but the warbats used by the Orcs and Goblins (Unless those were merely film exclusives)
Werewolves attacked the ring bearer and it was their presence why the company had no choice but to go through Moria And the story of Werewolves is incomplete without this episode
Whoaaaa I can’t believe I’ve never thought about this, Aragorn and Arwen could be spiritual reincarnations of Beren and Luthien, as he hints at 11:10. Their stories are waaay too similar to be a coincidence
There's no such reincarnation in Tolkien's Legendarium. Upon death, Men briefly go to the Halls of Mandos and then go beyond the Circles of the World, never to return. Elves spend a much longer time in the Halls of Mandos and are eventually re-embodies as the same Elf they were before.
@@istari0 what if Mandos deemed Beren to be worthy of returning to middle earth? Maybe he sensed Beren would be needed or his deeds were not quite done. And for Arwen, she is literally a striking resemblance of Luthien, they’re pretty much the same person
@@johnjohnson7259 The Gift of Men, that after death they travel beyond the Circles of the World, comes from Eru Ilúvatar and only he could ultimately allow Beren to be resurrected. He then lived a second mortal life, died, and passed beyond the Circles of the World. Lúthien Tinúviel was given the choice of remaining an immortal being and living in Valinor or returning to Middle-Earth and living a mortal life with Beren. She chose the 2nd option and so also died and passed beyond the Circles of the World. Arwen was Lúthien's great-great-granddaughter so the family resemblance is not unusual.
There are giants in Hobbit and there are small hints to giants in the Lay of Leithian and Unfinished Tales as well. The point is, there is no stone giant in Tolkien. That is an addaptation
@@oguzhanenescetin5702 as my quote above shows, the text from 'The Hobbit' by JRR Tolkein, literally calls them "Stone Giants". If Tolkein much latter retcons this, i do not know BUT that does not negate that the text in 'The Hobbit' names them as such.
Ive actually come up with my own concepts of werewolves. Mine howerver are pernamently humanoid wolves who are aware and free willed who follow the culture of the moon. They teach their youngs to hunt to survive and fight to defeat threats to their packs. I used this for a isekie book i write for fun and theyre given with their new lord lands to build their camps and have united the survivors of all clans under his grand magic empire. This lord even created them a small army of giant wolf beasts that he calls the great wolves that are created for one purpose. To serve his will and protect the his allies in the wild woods. The main werewolf character is called neith who becomes the leadef of the new wolf faction and serves directly under her lord and is eternaly loyal to him.
People wonder why Mount Doom wasn't guarded, but that's because no one could have the strength to willingly put the Ring into the fires of Mount Doom. Even Frodo, who was incredibly resistant to the Ring, couldn't do it intentionally. Also, the pity of Bilbo saved Middle Earth.
@@Paulafan5 Mordor was very heavily guarded. Getting into it and to Mount Doom required exceptional skill and the distraction by the Army of the West. Beyond that, yes Sauron saw no need to guard the entrance to Mount Doom; it wouldn't even have occurred to him.
It's more than that. Gollum swore an oath to help Frodo and later betrayed that oath. Oath-breaking in Middle-Earth always has seriously bad consequences. In this case, after finally getting the One Ring back, Gollum slipped and fell into the volcano.
Actual question here: we've established Wargs, Werewolves, and "wolves", which appear to be unlike actual, real life wolves. I ask: are there actual, normal wolves in Tolkien's world, separate from the brutish, terrifying wolves and wargs we see in Middle Earth? In the Fellowship of the Ring film, we see a black dog barking at one of the black riders when it's looking for Baggins. Is that dog domesticated from plain wolves like in real life, or from one of those "wolves" of middle earth? I don't like to think that all wolves in Middle Earth are evil since real wolves are kind, brave, respectable animals, the sort of traits that Tolkien attributes to horses and other animals in the books.
the thing is that wolves fit more with the evil stereotype than the good one. Only duality in which wolves can mix well with the good forces are usually in order vs chaos themes,but in most cases having fangs and being balck/grey makes them a better fit for evil.
Middle-Earth as depicted is heavily colored by Britain as it existed in the 18-1900s. In official records the last wolf on the island was killed in 1680... so the presentation of wolves would naturally tend toward the metaphorical. There aren't any cats at all either way after the initial roots of the Beren and Luthien story...
In The Fellowship of the Ring, when the Fellowship is trying to cross through the Misty Mountains and make their way to Moria, aren’t they attacked by Werewolves? In the story, the Fellowship fends them off in the middle of the night but in the morning when Legolas goes to retrieve his arrows, they’re described to be found lying on the ground and not in the bodies of the wolves. Although the story describes the creatures as wolves, Gandalf makes a statement saying that these wolves are different as none of their bodies were found. In my opinion, this seems to indicate that they were attacked by werewolves sent by Sauron instead of normal wolves and when they were killed by Legolas’s arrows, their bodies disappeared as the spirits within them were freed.
Remember the wolves that attack the fellowship before they make it to moria? It says after they are killed they left no bodies. Gandalf mentions something like he was afraid of this. Like he recognized what they were. But he does not elaborate. Do you think those were werewolves?
Have you done a video yet going over what would have happened if the fellowship of the ring hadn't broken up and they all went with Frodo to Mordor? Or if at least Aragorn, Gimli, and Sam went with Frodo, like Aragorn had suggested?
Quick nerd out sesh in long question form....Was Isldur able to cut the ring from powered up Sauron during the events of the Last Alliance because Sauron had struck down his father? Hear me out on this. The ring will actively work towards being with the most powerful being generally speaking Sauron. When Elendil is struck down the rage, hate, grief and sorrrow Isldur felt became far superior to what Sauron was feeling at the time and the Ring left Sauron Vulnerable to the same things it was made from....spite hate greed malice etc. In destroying Sauron's mortal form it ensured Isldurs own destruction as well as the the release of striking down Sauron released his feelings therefore leaving the ring seeking the now destroyed Sauron once again.... sorry that was long winded😅
I love the art depicting Huan as a big fluffy dog. A sheepdog with a shaggy and cuddly face, the nicest of boys, slaughtering werewolves left and right.
Huan is a good boi
The artwork depicting Huan resemble an Irish Wolfhound, a larger breed of dog bred for guard duty and hunting wolves.
@@KingOfSciliy 😯 I didn't know about them. So big! I though they were inspired on terriers or some water dogs. Thank you.
I like Huan being an Irish Wolfhound😊
They awesome dogs and look the part
But they are cowards and have the sweetest souls, they are a new invention , not the actual ones who fought the wolf's in Ireland 🇮🇪 😢
@@KonradvonHotzendorf Aw they're cowards? XD
I like how Sauons battering ram is in the shape of a werewolf. It is both an ancient fear and a challenge to the descendants of Luthien and Beren
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Man, the story of Beren and Luthien/Huan and the werewolves is one of the best tales in the Tolkien universe. Just imagine, if done correctly of course, how amazing that story would be on the big screen
Not very, because fluffy dog fighting a wolf would look silly. Also you'd need to jettison 90% of the irrelevant/redundant nonsense to make it presentable on big screen...
@@KuK137he's based on a wolfhound. There huge and Not exactly fluffy.
@@KuK137mate... What are you actually even doing here? If you think Tolkien's storytelling is "irrelevant/redundant nonsense" why are you watching a video about said nonsense?
Seems like you're a little confused. Just search My Little Pony in the search bar I'm sure that'll be more you're speed.
@@alexg1778 Mic drop
"If" done correctly.
I'm always reminded of exactly how much Tolkien really put his love and effort into all his stories when i watch your videos❤
Huan was a great hound and a faithful companion of Beren and Luthien. Would be great to see a faithful adaptation of this story on screen. Thanks for such a beautiful story telling Matt ❤
The story of Beren and Luthien is such a beautiful, inspiring, tragic and heroic tale. It would make a magnificent movie, if handled correctly.
Any depiction of Morgoth or the Silmariles on screen would be disappointing
Even if you got the team from The Lord of the Rings movies, gave them all the time in the world (unlike The Hobbit), it would still be disappointing, it still would not depict the full Evil of Morgoth or the Holy Beauty of the Gems with any satisfaction. They are divine, any depiction will dispoint, same for the Queen of Doriath (can't remember her name) and Sauron. Only Howard Shore would come close, only music could depict it with any satisfaction. Which might explain why the only real adaptation of the Silmarillon is an Opera.
@@Hundredyacrewoods I appreciate your view. It is Melian, and Cate Blanchett is already taken! I agree very few actors could do this. They would need to be early middle age and classically trained on the stage with the baseload of a string of nuclear power stations. That goes for all the leads. It is a sorry testament to the profession that we struggle to think it even possible. I think the stage is where we seek the talent. Cinema is not a great source at the moment.
Black Beren and Lesbian Luthien, yes
I say animation would suit the Silmarilion stories best
@@kennethsatria6607 Exactly what I was thinking. For instance, the only way I can see an adaptation of the creation myth portion is an abstract _Fantasia_ animation, like stars dancing through space to music.
Immediately thought “aaaWOOOOO! Werewolves of Sauron!” to the tune of “Werewolves of London”.
Underrated comment.
the tale of Huan always brings a tear to my eye
I saw a werewolf sipping a pina colada on Tol-in-Gaurhoth. His hair was perfect. Awoooooooooo, Werewolves of Sauron!
(Sorry, couldn't resist. Great video as always.)
Nothing fills me with sorrow more than the death of a faithful hound
Great video! Nerd of the Rings' next video should be about Huan the Hound. His aid in assisting Beren and Luthien during their quest for the silmaril would be crucial in bringing down Morgoth and his sacrifice during his fight with Carcharoth would ensure that Beren and Luthien's sacrifice would result in their descendants becoming great kings, warriors, and healers for thousands of years.
I find it real cool how we see that Sauron really just was a lieutenant of the real evil
This has always been known.
@TheBigheadValley not to everyone. Rather than patting yourself on the back for knowing certain things about an enormous world maybe welcome new people in with a little humility?
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You’re the reason I can fall asleep at night. Thank you. 💕
I am now singing “Ahoooooo Werewolves of Sauron” to the tune of Warren Zevon’s “Werewolves of London”.
I saw werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand
Walking through the streets of SoHo in the rain
I loved all the little tidbits you bring, underlining and reinforcing the lore!
As someone a huge fan of werewolves I wish they played a larger part in the story of Lord of the Rings then just a quick mention of them by Gandalf.
I look forward to and thoroughly enjoy these so very much! Thank you, and many thanks to the Patreon supporters.
These more nuanced topics are the best, keep up the good work as always!
What an incredible coincidence that I watched Overlysarcastic Production's video all about Werewolves on this faithful day
Please make a video of the many languages in Tolkien's legendarium! It is the only one I've been craving to see from your channel!
Been looking forward to you covering this subject. I found the stories about the werewolves one of the highlights of reading the Silmarillion, and the image Tolkien conjured of Tol-in-Gaurhoth as a foreboding, haunted and misty 'Isle of Werewolves' along with the many battles fought there made for an unforgettable read.
You make really the best content on RUclips, love to watch this channel. Continue making lots of videos man! And maybe an another magic the gathering match, was fun to watch haha
Definitely one of my favourite topics, love your stuff!
The tales involving Huan and Carcharoth remind me the most of Beowulf out of Tolkien's writings I've read. The whole of those passages has a Norse epic poem feel to it.
He originally wrote it as a poem---is in Lost Tales 2, I think?
That episode of the werewolf who kept killing Beren's companions one by one while they were imprisoned is definitely based on the imprisonment and torture of Sigmund, a hero from the Old Norse Völsung Saga, whose brothers were killed off by a she-wolf until he was freed. Like Beren, Sigmund too wore a wolf skin for some time (although idk why). But it does reflect Tolkien's knowledge on these stories
Wargs and werewolves are not the same as far as Tolkien is concerned, right? Cause I can only imagine how TA Sauron woulda fared if he had the might, abilities and thralls that FA Sauron had.
To be honest Witch King was the greatest thrall Sauron had in his time
Not the same, but they are related in some way; for both werewolves and wargs are bred from even more corrupted wolves.
FA and TA sauron ?
@@JohnJohn-qq1cw First Age Sauron and Third Age Sauron
@@JohnJohn-qq1cwseems you might need to read Tolkien's works to fully understand.
Insteresting. I read somewhere that the Great Goblin of the Hobbit was also another one of those beings "inhabited" by a dark power; not really a orc/goblin, but something more powerful in goblin form.
There are discussions about the Goblin King, Azog and Bolg being, at the very least, descendants of corrupted Maiar who took the shape of great Orc-captains and bred with other orcs.
@@leonardofaber5823 maybe that's what I read.
@@leonardofaber5823 I like the theory that some Maia took the forms of Orcs and the like; it explains things like some of them being quite long-lived and the memories the Goblin-King had of Orcrist and Glamdring.
This series is awesome. Love your videos. They are brilliant and wonderful. We always appreciate your hard work and time to make these videos.
The fact that Tolkien probably wrote his lore on the werewolves of Middle-Earth many decades before _The Wolf Man_ basically solidified the modern conception of the creature is something I wish more fantasy writers would keep in mind when writing werewolves into their stories.
This was very helpful, thank you. Wonderful illustrations and narration!
Excellent! I really enjoyed this post!
"I have a Silmaril foul beast! Begone lest you feel its power!'
Bites off hand
"Huh... not how I expected that to go"
Nice work dude thanks
I've been a fan of Werewolves for a long time and I never heard of the Werewolves of Sauron in the Lord of the Rings.
Yeah that's understandable, not many people actually read the silmarillian or unfinished tales.
@@ImOnioned. Yes. I would add to that Beren and Luthien. The separate recent book, not (just) the chapter in the Silmarillion
Gotta read all the stuff from Tolkien’s Legendarium.
@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandleyes but be careful whichone u gonna order,cause the one i got had no sauron no werewolves inside.instaid a huge cats the lord of cats and his minions.apparently it was the VERY early writings of tolkien before he creates sauron idk.and the moment I realized i stopped reading it😂🤣
@@skandalisgewrgios yes for sure ! Meow
i like how it's told like a history lecture not like a fairytale but like history like it happened
Lots to learn here, let’s go!
I’m glad you mentioned wargs. I was going to ask about them.
I like how Carcaroth was basically a dragon+ level threat after eating the Silmaril. Just a whirlwind of burning death that scared everything out of Anflauglith and busted straight through the girdle (something Sauron couldnt do). Dude was just short of Ancalagon in how insane a rampaging power he was
Please cover thuringwethil and the vampires in the next video.
She is my favourite minor character.
Btw what is the music you use in your videos, it's super cool.
Love all your vids. Oh yeah what is the art at 4:23, it makes for an amazing wallpaper.
What is the music though? I've been trying to find it forever
Saturday! Lore day! Always the best day. Thats all I need. 😂
Just forgot to mention that Luthien cast a sleeping spell on Sauron making him an easy target for Huan to defeat
Sauron be like "Hey that's cheating!"
Forgetting Huan just demolish the better part of an entire race of evil without taking a break. So really, she was just evening things out
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There are many versions of werewolves in literature.
The original cursed ones of history.
The Garu of Werewolf the Apocalypse.
Underworld.
Even I had writen my own version in three books.
Amazing video! It would be also great to see material about wampirs of Middle-earth.
I have always wondered about the full history of these creatures in Tolkien's world. Thanks.
Love the lore. Great video as always
Really interesting parallel between Carcharoth and Sauron's "fell beasts" of the Third Age! Never saw that connection, because the texts are so far apart.
As a side note, this piece about werewolves eventually slides into a retelling of Beren and Luthien...given that so much of Tolkien's mythology is interconnected, it might be better to focus each video on one subject, even if that means making it shorter. Otherwise, you run into the problem of retreading the same ground as other videos.
That's a small quibble -- your videos are amazing, keep it up!
On that note, Can you do a Video on the Wargs?
Other videos that would be interesting include:
Frodo Baggins - how haven't you done a video on him yet? Yet surprisingly few people do.
Eru Iluvitar
J.R.R Tolkien - the man himself
Christopher Tolkien
An updated Legendarium reading order - where does "The Fall of Númenor" fit in
he Hobbit folklore - found most prominently in the "The Adventures of Tom Bombadil" poetry collection (which you left out of your Legendarium reading order)
And perhaps some of Tolkien's other works:
Roverandom, Farmer Giles of Ham, his actual academic works, ect.
Love your videos
1:49 Well drawn but really shows how vile Draugluin is.
I love how Tolkien loves dogs so much that even Sauron cant kill huon I hope he gets many treats and bones to eat 😊
Let's think about this for a minute: Huan overpowered First Age Sauron 1v1. 1st Age Sauron is more powerful than 3rd Age Sauron, because his power is still undivided: the equivalent of 2nd Age Sauron with the Ring. Yet even in his weakened state, 3rd Age Sauron was easily the most powerful being in Middle-Earth. Not even Gandalf or Galadriel could face him head-on.
Also, it's implied that Carcharoth is more powerful than Glaurung himself: "Of all the terrors that came ever into Beleriand ere Angband's fall, the madness of Carcharoth was the most dreadful, for the power of the Silmaril was hidden within him."
First Age power levels are pretty insane.
I wish Beren and Luthien (plus Huan) could be adapted by Studio Ghibli
Great video. Never really gave a thought on werewolves. Are there any mention of where wargs came from, besides the theory that they came from the possible line of werewolves? That would be an interesting video. As always thanks, waiting on next Saturday.
Wargs could be half-werewolf, and half-wolf. They are mentioned seperately from werewolves and regular wolves, so maybe they are somewhere in the middle.
@@Paulafan5 thanks. I also thought because Sauron was a master manipulator, maybe he crossed wolves and large boars. just my thinking. However thanks for replying.
The sort of creepy atmosphere of the forces of Morgoth is one of my favorite parts of The Legendarium.
Sauron's title of Lord of the Werewolves seems to have originated when he, like them, belonged to the felinetrovert family and was known by the name Tevildo (as noted in Tolkien's earlier drafts). Werewolves may be derived from the wolf type (a sub-creation of Yavanna) among the instinct-driven kelvar. It is possible that Sauron gave these wolves a humanoid form by bodily transformation, and evil spirits may have incarnated into these transformed bodies. They differ from the Wargs in their physical and spiritual aspects. Wargs are malevolent creatures that have been transformed from wolves (but not given a humanoid form like werewolves) and have no will (without a soul).
You should do a video on wargs! Love your work!
I love this video. Just like all. I love them all. This is in my top ten for sure.
I’d love to see a video of you. If you were in charge of creating a TCU Tolkien Cinematic Universe or maybe TCA Tolkien Cinematic Arts. A long video of you laying out a map of trilogy movies. Anthology movies and series. What stories/characters would you start with.
Great stuff as always.
I hope the War of the Rohirrim movie succeeds and that it inspires more independent story line movie adaptions for LOTR with one of them being on the story of Beren & Luthien.
Would love to see some of the following things take place on TV show or a movie:
1) Beren's revenge hunt on the orc captain who took his father's hand/ring
2) The Battle of Songs between Finrod and Sauron
3) Huan the Hound fighting and defeating Dragulin and Sauron
4) How Luthien enchants the entire chamber of Morgoth to sleep
5) The Company's hunt for Caracaroth and Huan's final words with Beren
Honorable mention to another movie finding a way to put the Fall of Gondolin on the big screen too!
Awesome video!
When I hear the word werewolf my mind goes to lycans. Tolkien's version is just as interesting, no surprise there. Wish we could've seen them portrayed in the movies.
I always assumed that werewolves mentioned in the Silmarillion were just a placeholder name for large wolf-like beings and Tolkien later changed his mind and decided to call them wargs, accidentally missing a few references to the original name, however that line from Gandalf where he mentions both in the same sentence does give me pause.
In the real-time strategy game Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle-Earth II - Rise of the Witch-King, the Angmar civilization can summon a giant wolf-like humanoid creature called the Shade of the Wolf. Perhaps it was one of the werewolves that survived into the Third Age?
I really love your videos. I've been watching your content for awhile, and often I use your videos to dive further into Tolkien while I read his books or watch Jackson's interpretation. I'd love to know what you think would happen if Gollum had never escaped the elves of Mirkwood. Would Frodo and Sam never figure their way out to the black gate? Would they both have still been captured by Faramir? Would the Ring Wraiths seize the ring from Frodo at Mount Doom?
Great job, thanks!
I love werewolf lore in general. I just hate how they are almost always depicted as evil. Wolves are noble creatures
Are you planning on making a lore video about the Vampires too? Or is there not enough information surrounding them to work with? I have always loved these videos and was curious if you had any plans regarding the bats of Middle-Earth, not just the vampires but the warbats used by the Orcs and Goblins (Unless those were merely film exclusives)
Werewolves attacked the ring bearer and it was their presence why the company had no choice but to go through Moria
And the story of Werewolves is incomplete without this episode
I’m pretty sure those were just wargs or big wolves
The Fellowship had already decided to take the path through Moria when they realized they couldn't get through the path at Caradhras.
Well done!
Whoaaaa I can’t believe I’ve never thought about this, Aragorn and Arwen could be spiritual reincarnations of Beren and Luthien, as he hints at 11:10. Their stories are waaay too similar to be a coincidence
There's no such reincarnation in Tolkien's Legendarium. Upon death, Men briefly go to the Halls of Mandos and then go beyond the Circles of the World, never to return. Elves spend a much longer time in the Halls of Mandos and are eventually re-embodies as the same Elf they were before.
@@istari0 what if Mandos deemed Beren to be worthy of returning to middle earth? Maybe he sensed Beren would be needed or his deeds were not quite done. And for Arwen, she is literally a striking resemblance of Luthien, they’re pretty much the same person
@@johnjohnson7259 The Gift of Men, that after death they travel beyond the Circles of the World, comes from Eru Ilúvatar and only he could ultimately allow Beren to be resurrected. He then lived a second mortal life, died, and passed beyond the Circles of the World. Lúthien Tinúviel was given the choice of remaining an immortal being and living in Valinor or returning to Middle-Earth and living a mortal life with Beren. She chose the 2nd option and so also died and passed beyond the Circles of the World. Arwen was Lúthien's great-great-granddaughter so the family resemblance is not unusual.
Question: How did Stone Giants came into existence on Tolkien's middle earth? What role did they play in the saga?
There are giants in Hobbit and there are small hints to giants in the Lay of Leithian and Unfinished Tales as well. The point is, there is no stone giant in Tolkien. That is an addaptation
@@oguzhanenescetin5702 huh. i am sure "Stone Giants" were mentioned in The Hobbit.
@@oguzhanenescetin5702 yep. Just looked it up. "Bilbo ... saw that across the valley the stone-giants were out"
@@glenbe4026 They were not “stone giants”. They were giants throwing stones to each other. They are basically over sized humanoids
@@oguzhanenescetin5702 as my quote above shows, the text from 'The Hobbit' by JRR Tolkein, literally calls them "Stone Giants". If Tolkein much latter retcons this, i do not know BUT that does not negate that the text in 'The Hobbit' names them as such.
It was an amazing adventure for the couple and their furry companion.
Ive actually come up with my own concepts of werewolves. Mine howerver are pernamently humanoid wolves who are aware and free willed who follow the culture of the moon. They teach their youngs to hunt to survive and fight to defeat threats to their packs. I used this for a isekie book i write for fun and theyre given with their new lord lands to build their camps and have united the survivors of all clans under his grand magic empire.
This lord even created them a small army of giant wolf beasts that he calls the great wolves that are created for one purpose. To serve his will and protect the his allies in the wild woods. The main werewolf character is called neith who becomes the leadef of the new wolf faction and serves directly under her lord and is eternaly loyal to him.
Sauron is so bad ass and lost because gollum and frodo were fighting for the ring and gollum falls into the fire
People wonder why Mount Doom wasn't guarded, but that's because no one could have the strength to willingly put the Ring into the fires of Mount Doom. Even Frodo, who was incredibly resistant to the Ring, couldn't do it intentionally. Also, the pity of Bilbo saved Middle Earth.
@@Paulafan5 Mordor was very heavily guarded. Getting into it and to Mount Doom required exceptional skill and the distraction by the Army of the West. Beyond that, yes Sauron saw no need to guard the entrance to Mount Doom; it wouldn't even have occurred to him.
It's more than that. Gollum swore an oath to help Frodo and later betrayed that oath. Oath-breaking in Middle-Earth always has seriously bad consequences. In this case, after finally getting the One Ring back, Gollum slipped and fell into the volcano.
Could you please make a video on the vampires of Sauron too?
Sauron could have beaten the great hound but he had to go against that other female elf that was helping the hound in the fight against Sauron.
Now this is the story I want to see in a movie 🎥
man this would be an epic movie!
Maybe I missed it, but does Huan have his own video?
If not, he totally deserves one!!!
Actual question here: we've established Wargs, Werewolves, and "wolves", which appear to be unlike actual, real life wolves. I ask: are there actual, normal wolves in Tolkien's world, separate from the brutish, terrifying wolves and wargs we see in Middle Earth? In the Fellowship of the Ring film, we see a black dog barking at one of the black riders when it's looking for Baggins. Is that dog domesticated from plain wolves like in real life, or from one of those "wolves" of middle earth? I don't like to think that all wolves in Middle Earth are evil since real wolves are kind, brave, respectable animals, the sort of traits that Tolkien attributes to horses and other animals in the books.
the thing is that wolves fit more with the evil stereotype than the good one. Only duality in which wolves can mix well with the good forces are usually in order vs chaos themes,but in most cases having fangs and being balck/grey makes them a better fit for evil.
Middle-Earth as depicted is heavily colored by Britain as it existed in the 18-1900s. In official records the last wolf on the island was killed in 1680... so the presentation of wolves would naturally tend toward the metaphorical.
There aren't any cats at all either way after the initial roots of the Beren and Luthien story...
We need a huon the Hound video. The best doggo of middle earth
Great vid thank you
In The Fellowship of the Ring, when the Fellowship is trying to cross through the Misty Mountains and make their way to Moria, aren’t they attacked by Werewolves? In the story, the Fellowship fends them off in the middle of the night but in the morning when Legolas goes to retrieve his arrows, they’re described to be found lying on the ground and not in the bodies of the wolves. Although the story describes the creatures as wolves, Gandalf makes a statement saying that these wolves are different as none of their bodies were found. In my opinion, this seems to indicate that they were attacked by werewolves sent by Sauron instead of normal wolves and when they were killed by Legolas’s arrows, their bodies disappeared as the spirits within them were freed.
Draugluin is amazing werewolves father and carcaroth
Remember the wolves that attack the fellowship before they make it to moria? It says after they are killed they left no bodies. Gandalf mentions something like he was afraid of this. Like he recognized what they were. But he does not elaborate. Do you think those were werewolves?
Maybe. Maybe he was after, because this meant they were wargs, and not regular wolves. Wargs, too, are far more intelligent than any animal.
Have you done a video yet going over what would have happened if the fellowship of the ring hadn't broken up and they all went with Frodo to Mordor? Or if at least Aragorn, Gimli, and Sam went with Frodo, like Aragorn had suggested?
Can you please do a video about Haldir?
Can we get a video of prince Aldarion and Erendis soon please?
Play more Magic with Don, please! Try the Commander decks. Great job!
hell yeah thanks for this
Have you done a video on the dragons of middle earth? If not I would love to see one
i love this channel. its accurate.
Golden work on this topic and the story! I feel like the Lord of the Rings Books don't contain as much lore as the other Tolkien's work.
Of course not. There was too much lore to be included in the trilogy of books. It would not have fitted in with the narrative.
1:50: Metal.
Quick nerd out sesh in long question form....Was Isldur able to cut the ring from powered up Sauron during the events of the Last Alliance because Sauron had struck down his father? Hear me out on this. The ring will actively work towards being with the most powerful being generally speaking Sauron. When Elendil is struck down the rage, hate, grief and sorrrow Isldur felt became far superior to what Sauron was feeling at the time and the Ring left Sauron Vulnerable to the same things it was made from....spite hate greed malice etc. In destroying Sauron's mortal form it ensured Isldurs own destruction as well as the the release of striking down Sauron released his feelings therefore leaving the ring seeking the now destroyed Sauron once again.... sorry that was long winded😅
Have recently been listening to a Silmarillion audiobook, thought I had it playing by mistake. “I’ve already heard this part…..🧐 Oh😅”
Werewolves r so cool in lotr probably one of my favorite creatures next to the eagles
Interesting Episode ❤
Huan was the goodest boi there ever was in Middle Earth!