Thank you for your efforts. There are some of us who appreciate the message and the ramifications. Maybe the world will wake up and see the writing on the wall now. Again, thank you for the excellence.
Setting 0 at 1950 certainly makes it look better, lol. Who came up with that strategy? We are already at 1.5 and have breached the 2 C mark this year. It only takes a few weeks of high temperatures to kill salmon or keep corn from pollinatiing. It will not be sea level rise over time that will wipe out coastal cities but the storm surges way before an average permanent rise.
On higher RCP scenarios, did you add the estimated mel from Greenland to the calculations? 3-6 meters of additional sea level rise from Greenland (with gravitational changes) will make more difference than just gravitational changes that happens near Antarctica.
I’m beginning to think that sea level rise is the wrong emphasis, if we want people to pay attention. Despite these really high numbers “if the entire ice sheet melted”, we are always talking about things that will mostly become dramatic 200 or 300 years in the future. In this century, we are looking at bad king tides, not refugee migrations out of NYC. Asking people to care about something that mostly happens by 2300 won’t work.
It is likely that sealevels can rise abrubtly when ice sheets become instabile because of rapidly rising temps. This has happened near the end of the Younger Dryas cold period that finished last glacials. Also, in the last interglacial Eemien period (in Europe, US names differ ;) sea level has shown a sudden rise, most likely because West Antarctica's ice sheet collapsed. These events resulted in rapid rise ofv several meters in the course of a century. Pine Island and Thwaite glaciers in West Antarctica now show signs of instability. If these sheets collapse, a major part of W.A. ice sheet may go with them, _relatively_ quickly sliding into the sea, instead of slowly melting away
A. Levermann and R. Winkelmann: A simple equation for the melt elevation feedback of ice sheets, has 10% of the ice will melt in 330 years at 5c. 7 metres ruins most modern cities around the world. 100 years is a long time though as you say, none of us could imagine what it was like 100 years ago, we'd probably know more about horses, but 100 years in the future, well, that affects all grand children and their kids, so you'll have to ask yourself, what will one metre do to all the people you leave behind, you have to ask yourself if you should do everything you do, knowing you are leaving your future generations to face all of the cities to be obliterated, for all debt in these buildings to be worthless and considering we are a debt based economy, then money will be worthless and no country will be safe from it and then this sea level will rise faster and faster until 100% of the ice is melted in 2140 years and it all stops at 70 metres above where the world is now. I don't think this is the wrong emphasis, just that it's not explained properly, nor controlled, but telling people things aren't really going to change much in the next 20-40 years isn't going to do much when it's the time we have to do something. A tank of diesel has 5.2 months of my electrical energy usage, electricity is 20% of our energy usage, we emit huge amounts of energy without a second thought to go for a sunday drive and we need to tell people the truth because that's scary enough imo.
Following Stafford Beer's observation that the purpose of a system is what it does, the purpose of the COP system is to increase carbon emissions due to tens of thousands of flights and tens of thousands of people eating conference food.
![Eminem - Fuel (feat. JID) [Official Lyric Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/t5H_CewqpKA/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks for posting with clean audio. 💖
Thank you for your efforts. There are some of us who appreciate the message and the ramifications. Maybe the world will wake up and see the writing on the wall now. Again, thank you for the excellence.
Politicians should be required by law to attend lectures like this.
Setting 0 at 1950 certainly makes it look better, lol. Who came up with that strategy? We are already at 1.5 and have breached the 2 C mark this year. It only takes a few weeks of high temperatures to kill salmon or keep corn from pollinatiing. It will not be sea level rise over time that will wipe out coastal cities but the storm surges way before an average permanent rise.
Do you GRD models account for both arctic and antarctic GRD? I would think that Greenland and the WAIS would effectively cancel each other out.
On higher RCP scenarios, did you add the estimated mel from Greenland to the calculations? 3-6 meters of additional sea level rise from Greenland (with gravitational changes) will make more difference than just gravitational changes that happens near Antarctica.
Thank You very much!
I’m beginning to think that sea level rise is the wrong emphasis, if we want people to pay attention. Despite these really high numbers “if the entire ice sheet melted”, we are always talking about things that will mostly become dramatic 200 or 300 years in the future. In this century, we are looking at bad king tides, not refugee migrations out of NYC. Asking people to care about something that mostly happens by 2300 won’t work.
It is likely that sealevels can rise abrubtly when ice sheets become instabile because of rapidly rising temps. This has happened near the end of the Younger Dryas cold period that finished last glacials. Also, in the last interglacial Eemien period (in Europe, US names differ ;) sea level has shown a sudden rise, most likely because West Antarctica's ice sheet collapsed. These events resulted in rapid rise ofv several meters in the course of a century.
Pine Island and Thwaite glaciers in West Antarctica now show signs of instability. If these sheets collapse, a major part of W.A. ice sheet may go with them, _relatively_ quickly sliding into the sea, instead of slowly melting away
A. Levermann and R. Winkelmann: A simple equation for the melt elevation feedback of ice sheets, has 10% of the ice will melt in 330 years at 5c. 7 metres ruins most modern cities around the world.
100 years is a long time though as you say, none of us could imagine what it was like 100 years ago, we'd probably know more about horses, but 100 years in the future, well, that affects all grand children and their kids, so you'll have to ask yourself, what will one metre do to all the people you leave behind, you have to ask yourself if you should do everything you do, knowing you are leaving your future generations to face all of the cities to be obliterated, for all debt in these buildings to be worthless and considering we are a debt based economy, then money will be worthless and no country will be safe from it and then this sea level will rise faster and faster until 100% of the ice is melted in 2140 years and it all stops at 70 metres above where the world is now.
I don't think this is the wrong emphasis, just that it's not explained properly, nor controlled, but telling people things aren't really going to change much in the next 20-40 years isn't going to do much when it's the time we have to do something.
A tank of diesel has 5.2 months of my electrical energy usage, electricity is 20% of our energy usage, we emit huge amounts of energy without a second thought to go for a sunday drive and we need to tell people the truth because that's scary enough imo.
What is the probability that the earth's axis will completely shift when the polar icecap is gone?
Following Stafford Beer's observation that the purpose of a system is what it does, the purpose of the COP system is to increase carbon emissions due to tens of thousands of flights and tens of thousands of people eating conference food.
the sea level will rise 2 meters ... over 70 years ... is that it ... hot showers tonight
it only ruins most cities....the economy....money....then speeds up