The Creepy Quandary of Who Put Bella in the Wych Elm
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025
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A skeleton is found in a tree in rural England during WWII- was she a victim of circumstance or something more nefarious?
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Make sure to leave your questions for our Post Mortem episode down below!
BuzzFeed Unsolved Network why is Shane this way 😂😂
Why? Just. why?
#postmortem this is the one thing that has kept me sane during quarantine which is ironic since this show radiates insanity and pure chaos. thank you.
#postmortem Hi guys I really liked this episode. I hope you are doing well in this crazy time; do you have any book recommendations?
If your listening could you do an episode on the London riots
Shane's chanelling that disheveled English teacher energy, while Ryan is feeling that jock high schooler energy.
Aska Drömming 80’s school daze vibes I’m loving it
Meanwhile, Ryan's on Exile Island
yes
Shane looks like Remus Lupin
Ehhh I’m definitely getting more lesbian vibes
“They vowed not to speak of it again”
*The next day*
“They spoke of it”
Damn kids.
They always like that.... 😂 😂
Snitches get stitches... What more is there to say
And she would’d stayed in the tree, if it wasn’t for them meddling kids 😂
@@CurseofAphrodite 🤣😂 SCOOBY DOOBY DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Cassie Esmee i
Omg Shane is afraid of tornados and Ryan is scared of sharks, these guys need to review Sharknado
Heather David yessss that’s would be amasing (l can’t spell)
@buzzfeed PIN THIS COMMENT
Heather David such a illinois / California thing lmao i hate tornados im from illinois
lol yassssssssssssssssssssssssssss
I love Sharknado
“I cannot imagine a person getting into the tree voluntarily”
Any overly drunk Brit: *is that a challenge mate?*
I would know.
I need to see that animated
the fact I can hear this perfectly as a Brit myself lmaoo
My old flatmates!
An overly drunk American "Hold my beer". 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ryan: *knows the term "epidermal layer"*
Also Ryan: *wonders if hair grows through the skull*
AxxL u good
no el Yeah, but it was a decent guess!
I thought the esophagus was in front of your trachea (windpipe) for 21 years. Even when I saw a trachea in a body. But now I’m 25 getting a masters in anatomy and going to medical school soon. 🤷🏼♀️you don’t know till you know. Lol
Hahaha
AxxL bruh how high are you
Shane looks like he's an eighties science teacher who's about to inadvertently help a group of unpopular dnd nerds fight an interdimensional demonic being.
*cough cough* _sounds familiar_
#roastmortem
r/rareinsults
Hahaha godamnit
U right
Boys: We’ll never speak of this again.
Boy: Yes.
Boy: AY YO MA-
this should have more likes
AY YO MA THERES A WEIRD LOOKIN SKELTON OUTSIDE-!
"Mom and I HAVE no secrets! We go shopping together!"
Mini Might1234 I DON’T WANT IT PICKIN’ A FIGHT WITH LUCY
AY YO PIERRE YOU WANA COME HERE?
“the graffiti was too high up for boys to be pulling a prank”
ah yes... because there are certainly no adult-sized teenagers, and the desire to pull pranks fully disappears with puberty. NAILED it
Also chairs, boxes and other stuff you can use to gain height
Ladders? Abnormally tall children?
Demons?
Shane? Lol
【Tommy】 ꧁Init꧂ Thank you the real Tommy Init
“we all swear to never speak of this human skull again”
next day
“hey dad-”
Emma Doherty lol me every single time
The reason hair can sometimes be "stuck" to the skull, is that hair does not decompose like the rest of the body, and the process of decomposition can sometimes make it stick to the bone.
Don’t lie to Ryan, hair grows out of our bones and find its way through our skin.
@CCH Delirium don’t lie we all know it comes out of our brains
@@lilriceboy6037 hahahhaahahha
Interesting
I mean..has he never heard of a scalp..?
Plus, yeah, if it's only semi-decomposed it'll have hair still
But honestly..considering he believes in ghosts, I'm really not surprised in his lack of scientific knowledge hahaha
It's like flat earthers who don't know basic geology or astronomy rambling about their cult
But to be fair to Ryan, he's definitely a lot smarter than them, but ghosts aren't too far off
Shane: They live in a small town. Most exciting thing that has happened in 10 years is they found bones in a tree.
World War 2: Am I a joke to you?
Yeah also I thought Birmingham was a fairly large city
Edit: I live all the U.S.s west coast and my friend was born their but that doesn’t mean much
Loueke Kudlinskeioo Yeah Birmingham is quite a large city.
Well it is now anyway, it might have been a small town back then?
Martin Lewis t
@@daddra7304 t
Birmingham is one of the largest cities in the U.K. I burst out laughing when he said that ahaha
‘is this how british people treat their drunk friends?’
yeah. pretty much.
Yep.
Yeah
Reeeeeeee
Case closed
Same with pretty much much any country who ain't no light weight with alcohol
“I will never speak of this again”
Immediately tells dad
Hey dad look at this cool tree! I found a skull in it! Isn't that cool??
Right?! Kids. Sheesh.
To be fair I would have told my parents too...
Same
"According to police, the remains have been lost over the years.."
???? Like they just kept losing bits and pieces over the years and every time they were just like "oops there goes another one!"
To quote Shane: "These cops are useless!"
Funny how that happens!
The remains were kept at the University of Birmingham for further analysis, but lost in the years since. It's a common warehouse SNAFU: even the Smithsonian has screwed up like this.
@@TheSaneHatter Yup. I figure "lost" just means that they weren't properly labeled and are stored at the University. We see this with museums a lot, like you stated with the Smithsonian, they keep so many items on hand, but sometimes they aren't labeled properly or there are just too many items and things get misplaced. Seems like getting some interns with serious supervision together to sift through everything might actually help.
"Gary!! Hahaha OH Gary you forgot haha"
Ryan: analyzes complicated unsolved murder cases
Also Ryan: *does hair grow from the skull?*
Lucozade made me think of all the polish names he pronounced correctly in another episode
I laughed out loud when Shane was like yeah “it [hair] starts in the brain Ryan!” 😂🧠💀
Hair grows all around the body. :)
Raven Hale that makes me think about that he learned how to correctly say Polish and Icelandic names but didn’t pronounce Van Gogh right
also Ryan: *dO tHe BoNeS sTaY tOgEtHeR??????*
"When I am bones, if you find me somewhere......carry on," the amount of unbotheredness seeping out of this dude is just simply immaculate
Shane looks like a college professor who didn’t get any sleep
Like the one in Prisoners of Azkaban of Harry Potter 😂😂
@@subhenduparida4163 I was just going to say he looks like Remus Lupin
Subhendu Parida YESSS!! He so does
especially at 19:27
@@treyh3924 😂
Nobody:
Shane: if I get murdered do not prosecute that murderer. He caught me slipping.. THAT WAS ON ME
I agree with Shane on this one
This isn’t funny
@@TheSmashingLad damn I didn’t realize this was your channel and the comment was for you :(((( I’ll delete it if you want
Gotta love that Professor Tox's reference 👁️👄👁️
@@amelialopez2046 alright, keep your overused “nobody” jokes, you black hole of comedy
*someone gets brutally murdered*
Shane: ain’t that a hoot?
*strong twisty wind exists*
Shane: hey man don’t joke thats serious
Satan : Sorry daddy.
"Does hair grow through the skull?" No Ryan. Hair does not grow through the skull. Hair grows through the skin, and when it dries out, the skin shrinks onto the skull.
"Shrinks onto the skull"??
@@adriatic.vineyards Yeah, like leather, when skin dries, it contacts.
thank you for this comment - i'm rewatching this video and that bugged me so much bc i know it doesn't grow through the bone, but i have also seen a real life skeleton with hair attached to it and couldn't figure out how that worked
shane: "you think were not listening?"
us since forever: "D O T H E P E O P L E W H O D A N C E D U N T I L T H E Y D I E D"
he implied he's doing that on a Puppet History!
The dancing plague?
Exactly where my brain went
Do it!!!!
They can’t because that’s technically solved. It was a mass hysteria.
Ryan looks like he’s gonna go try and run a marathon while Shane is looking more like a dad trying to cheer him on.
That's how I thought as well 😂
Lol #roastmortem
"Go get em', son!"
ahhaah why do they though
#roastmortem
for the post mortem: why do none of the theories mention the taffeta found in the woman’s mouth? seems like it would be a bigger part of the case, especially since it insinuated that she was suffocated
Right. And I wonder if it was a piece of and not a whole meaning maybe they could find the whole thing it belonged to somewhere, like a trophy or something, maybe someone was taking advantage of there bein a war goin on.
stormy ra or maybe the killer left it as a mark.
I just read that taffeta was used for parachutes during ww2
Exactly Taffeta was (and may still be considered) as a high end cloth and didn't match what she was wearing. It was a single piece too. And apparently the ring she was wearing was imitation gold so I highly doubt the tafetta came from something owned by her.
I thought they meant taffy candy. That definitely makes more sense! I think that it would have been hard to follow though
im obsessed with the fact that Ryan genuinely thought hair grew from the skull and that bones are actually joined together... true himbo energy
Between "hair growing into the skull" and "yeah growing genetically similar embryos is one theory of how cloning works; it could just be a xerox machine", I am genuinely concerned about Ryan's nonexistant grasp of science.
@@Pentarax let’s not forget “there could be a black hole in the Bermuda Triangle that’s a portal to another universe”
@@Pentarax I think this explains why he's so confident ghosts exist
I’m just imaging Ryan as a Ken
the like amount says SOS 505
Fun sidefact: most bones do not stay together when picked up after the body decomposed (i am sure most people are aware of that) because what keeps them together are muscles and sinews. This is actually how archaeolgoists determine if a body was buried somewhere before decomposing or afterwards: there is a certain bone in your body (the Hyoid Bone, also called the Floating Bone by archaeologists!) that do not connect to any other bone (which means they "float free") and thus, once the muscles and sinews are gone, tend to get lost when picked up. So if you find an entire skeleton but not the Hyoid Bone, the assumption is generally that the body was moved there after decomposing.
Of course, this approach would not work here because the bones were also moved by the wildlife, so this is just a side tidbit I had to think of as Ryan and Shane were discussing if bones stick together.
The guy who asked
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thats cool af
Huuh the more you know cool
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Ooo thank you! This is really interesting
Ryan's wearing a headband to keep his hair from growing into his skull
Brings the dentist the body
"Hmmm, well she should have flossed more"
bahaha
Seeing this comment before watching the video got me real confused 😂
Probably
@@glittergal0701 HAHA SAME I WAS LIKE “WHAT HOW DOES HAIR GROW INTO A SKULL THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE” I should probably calm down with the caps lol
Shane's hair gets more crazy every episode.. it's like Hermione throughout the Harry Potter series but backwards
It's evolving just backwards
Eventually he's going to become Giorgio Tsoukalos
It’s like he’s trying to make Einstein cool again.
He’s looking more and more like Poe.
More like lupin
13:11 Wait, if the theory is that you can trap a witch in a hollow tree, then wouldn't it make more sense that 'Bella' was murdered by someone who suspected *her* of witchcraft, rather than by someone doing witchcraft themselves? As we can tell from the theorists, there were clearly people around who were afraid witches might be out to sacrifice them, so maybe one of those people thought that of Bella and killed her for it. Historically, it does seem like more people have been killed on suspicion of witchcraft than by witches.
Ikr? I thought the same thing!
This actually makes sense as Britain has a long history with witches and witchcraft, so it would kinda make sense if this happened, as if this lady was suspected of witchcraft someone could have actually murdered her and put her in a hollow tree
In 1940s Britain?
@@bruh8025 I know it'd probably be kind of an outlier, but some people are still superstitious I think, even today.
@@bruh8025 gonna be real, there's tons of islands or smaller villages out here nowadays that I could totally see still having a murder case for someone suspected of witchcraft
Honestly as a Brit I can say that stuffing someone in a tree would definitely be something you would do when drunk
Oh my God yeah 100%
Ok now i know I'll never get drunk in Britain.
Itachi Uchiha best not tbh
wtf lol
It's the 1940s version of riding a shopping trolley?
ryan’s headband matches his shirt EXACTLY so i refuse to believe it wasn’t planned, further i believe ryan owns multiple bandanas to match each outfit - explain THAT in the post mortem
#postmortem
He looks like a hippie in the 60's
Do the #postmortem I actually want them to answer this
@@quixotic9189 #postmortem
mo rgan edit #postmortem
hahahahhahahah #postmortem
They should do a series called “buzzfeed solved” where they talk about weird and confusing murders etc that actually get solved and talk about the same stuff here but then tell us who it was and why they done it etc...
Yes plz!! They keep mentioning john wyng gacey and jeffrey dahmer and stuff and i wanna know who theyre talking about!!!!
Oooh I would be interested in them talking about Sylvia Likens.
I love how you thought of this!
They could do the Golden State killrr
It should be a guessing game, if they got the killer right, they get points or whatever
“Who put Bella down the wych elm”
My messed up brain: y’all Edward finally snapped
😂😂😂💀
nice
robert would do that
My Different Messed up Brain: This sounds like a Nursery Rhyme.
not funny7
shane calling birmingham a quiet town has to be a joke
Chloe Smith ikr, everyone’s on coke
Yeah not the best way to describe Birmingham
Well right now it is
ikr like I literally wheezed at that
birmingham gets such a bad rep is2g 😂😂
“Does the hair come from the skull”
“Do the bones stay together”
Oh boy
this seriously hahahha as a "science" student the little medical mistakes/missconsuptions made this ep painful for me to watch
Well, to be fair when a body is mostly but not entirely decomposed, the tendons that connect the bones are nearly the last to go, so some (though i'd imagine not all) bones would still be somewhat connected. As for hair coming from the skull, well, hair can be connected to not yet decomposed pieces of skin that are on the skull but uhh.... yeah no it doesn't come from the skull.
Ryan's um,, well i guess anatomy isn't really his thing but uh, he's pretty, I'll give him that..
@@thelazylauren2909 yeah, i actually made a post about his missconsumptions in the comment section, but ryan asked if there were "only bones" could you pick up a bare sceleton so im not sure if he thought of the fibres as part of the sceleton or if he thinks that he can walk/move with his bones "glued" together xD
ivy Are you sure you’re a science student? Your spelling and grammar doesn’t resemble that of a college student.
@@Victoria-qb6cc well sorry if im not from an english speaking country,
the last time i wrote in english fr was back in high school .. dont worry, i kill in my field in my native language
Shane looks like a dad that takes the whole mailbox inside his home.
omg
A1
70s dad
Omg
Shane looks like a cheap knockoff of Edgar Allan Poe
Ryan: "it happened in Birmingham, England"
Me: maybe it was the peaky fookin blinders
10/10 comment
it wasn’t in birmingham it was in hugely which is next to stourbridge which is half hour from birmingham
@@benaitkens1390 the show is set in Birmingham so does it really matter
I dare someone to stay there overnight
I know the woods. I live 40 minutes away from Birmingham. I’ve been in that woods with my friends
Ryan’s complete lack of understanding of biology is hilarious
Shane gets progressively more disheveled every episode. He looks like he was doing something shady right before they started filming.
lmaoo factss
@mimirules21 i mean ur not wrong
@mimirules21 oh, trust me, this comment is not mere jest, but an accusation.
The reason why they could got the details of these cases probably because shane actually did it
Maybe a little bit of booger sugar or some adderralls to focus on every episode. Hyper focus.
Shane looks like your sad psychology professor that just divorced his wife and there definitely isn’t coffee in his mug
😂😂😂
Skylar Schilffarth
Of course there isn’t coffee in his mug, tea is much better for you!
dann accurate
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
@@Nochannel-qb3km wow
I think it's kind of strange that they completely discounted the idea of her getting into the tree herself. People in distress will do incredible things, and if she had been trying to escape from someone, or tried to hide during the air raids, or simply been on drugs, it's very possible that she tried to get into the tree and then either got stuck or accidentally suffocated herself while trying to stay silent. It's maybe not the most likely possibility, but perhaps more likely than the witch theory by a random egyptologist
OR OR she slept/body dumped in a place which happened to be over a seed and then the tree grew around her. Why did no one think of that? it would certainly explain the peculiar shape
@@coralinereads not really, sometimes it takes months to discover a body. Sometimes even years.
@@coralinereads r/whoosh
@@Guy-zf5ofbecause her body was found no more than 18 months after she died, the tree doesn’t grow that fast in less than 2 years
@@Guy-zf5ofthe clothing found with the remains was of the period and far newer than the age of the tree.
Shane looks like a college professor who survives on caffeine, teaches art, and just got a divorce that cost him his kids
I would say a history teacher but yeah I also agree with art teacher.
I would say an occult studies teacher but art works too
@@catsare2cute943 I would say a sugar daddy but art works too.
Lol jk
caffeineandmemes SO ACCURATE LMFAO
Remus Lupin
it honestly baffles me every single time police “loses” remains... like, at least bury them somewhere you can reach for
it went in the "special filing cabinet". it was never lost.
*pssh*
the rubbish basket sadly, a Unsolved Classic
I have strange feeling that remains found in a tree with all that mystery and witch theory most likely got stolen by one of the cops or medical students pathologists and sold to a one of British fraternities that are into occult. Feeling or fact? ;)
Idk it was ww2 I feel like anything could easily have been lost then
@Joy Back
You forgot a couple of commas there.
Shane: “crops circles are a lot of work”
Sounds like he tried to make one and gave up halfway 😂
Katherine Velez it’s a crop semi-circle.
Me adjusting to the transfer of my residential classes to online 😂😅
Haley McGrady me ordering blue light filtering glasses
Katherine Velez it’s actually really hard.
I actually do know what I'd do if I discovered human remains bc when I was a teenager my family was out at my stepmother's family cabin. My younger sister and I were out exploring in the woods when we stumbled upon a ribcage attached to some spine. There was just enough... meat for lack of a better word, to keep its shape.
We gasped, and quietly but quickly left the area and told our Father right away. He asked us to take him to where we'd found the bones.
Turns out it was just a deer rib cage, no doubt left there by some predator (probably why there was only a part of it and not the whole skeleton lol), but our dad told us that we still did the right thing in telling him right away and that if ever we see something or something happens or whatever again to not be afraid to tell him.
Well written!
You have a good dad
One time i found a ribcage and I threw it in a bonfire and preserved the bones....at the time i was sure it was a deer but reading this I'm sorta sus of myself
Something similar happened to me when I was younger. I was walking in a snowy field and noticed my dogs were licking something under the snow. I looked and it was a pink and white goat hoof with the rest of the leg hidden under the snow. I freaked out and ran and got my mom, but when I showed her where it was, there was nothing. We scoured every mark in the snow but found nothing. The dogs didn’t find it again either. I looked again when the snow melted, but again nothing. Very distinctive memory.
To be fair, maybe your dad murdered someone, (I'm kidding. Or am I? Gotta keep em on their toes.)
I'm surprised they didn't poke fun at:
"The boys promised never to speak of it again..."
"...The next day one of the boys told his father."
Same. I expected them to make fun of him.
what a snitch
The boys should do the story of Harold Holt: An Australian prime minister who straight up disappeared into the ocean and has never been heard from since.
He was kidnapped by a kangaroo
omg yes. and share thoughts on the appropriately made swimming pool named after him.
I'm Australian and my dads uncle also straight up dissappeared into the ocean
Rebekka Tummon from what i understand that’s something that happens often there?
Is that why aus keeps getting rubbish leaders? The curse of Harold Holt??
As a british person, i can 100% see someone getting hammered and putting someone in a tree as a joke
Lol I seen a similar comment is that what y'all really do 😂?
@@highme1329 yeh we're not the best people
@@highme1329 yeah as a fellow british person I can confirm
Honestly there's not much else to do here
@@beth9138 innit
CSI: "Do you recognize these teeth?"
Every time a dentist is called to a crime scene: "I recognize they didn't floss enough"
Ryan: "The only explanation of that is a ghost!"
Also Ryan: "Does hair grow through the skull?"
Also Ryan: "Must be weird to pick up a body that is just bones....Do they stick together?"
#postmortem 🤣
Also Ryan called anatomy, "physiology"....which is kinda okay, but kinda not.#postmortem
My nursing brain hurt hahahahaha
Scalp(that grows hair): I'm offended in 2017 style...
Poor, clueless Ryan... 😉😅
ONE THING. Why the hell does the authorities keep “losing” evidence and people’s remains in these cases!?
The only thing I can think that would excuse it is maybe it got lost during the war, like if it was destroyed in an air raid. Otherwise...smh
@@ElminTV13 thank you, smart person.
It can't be a coincidence every time.
When you ask the question "why do they keep losing evidence in all these unsolved cases?" it looks like a mystery or a conspiracy. When you ask the question "are cases with lost evidence the ones that remain unsolved in the age of forensic science," it's a one-word answer.
Kay that’s a bold claim, with no evidence.
Generalizing a group of people, is not fair to the thousands of law enforcement officers who risk their lives to keep people like you safe. There’s always the bad apples of the group, but not all of them are, and it’s not fair.
Shane looks like Remus Lupin right before he turns into a werewolf
...is nobody gonna talk about how nice Ryan looks in his lil bandana, with it matching his shirt and all?
Nope
Nu uh
😍
Ryan looks like he’s fighting in a movement and Shane looks like a mad scientist from the 80s
Alexandra Marsh shane also looks like a substitute teacher
Accurate of both of their personalities
Shane also looks like that one weird dad of one of your one weird freinds
Alexandra Marsh we love a roast
He's a few grey hairs away from Einstein territory 😂
I swear Ryan's style in clothing changes every episode
I want to see him in eyeliner and black skinny jeans next 😂😂😂
Ovq
Jed Davis alt our y m
I love Shane's clothing style
I think he thinks his hairline is receding and he's slowly but surely experimenting with ways to hide it like with the bandana or bangs. Personally I think it looks fine, own that beautiful forehead homie 👍
shane: 80s history teacher, interested in radio, old machines and leonardo da vinci, amateur detective
ryan: gym teacher, conspiracy theories stoner, goes to concerts, has a soft spot for losers
YES
YES
YES
Taeyashi Park YES
Spectre YES
The creepiest thing is that, 75 years afterwards, they used old pictures of the skull to recreate a face of what Bella could have look like. People asked why they didn’t just took more clear pictures of the skull to reconstruct the face? Is would have being much easier to take new pictures rather then using old one.
The police then declared that they couldn’t do that for the simple reason then the skull the boys found 75 years before, had simply disappeared.
TBH, it was a pretty significant period in British history, and a case that didn't actually matter much to anyone but Unsolved Mystery enthusiasts.
How tf did they lose the remains?
@@Greendalewitch Well people who believe in paranormal can make their theory but I don't believe in all that stuff. My theory is just that police and historian werent really carefull with bones back in those days and the affair didnt make much noise at the time. And its not like it was a whole skeleton its was just a skull. They were probably just not carefull with it AT ALL and lost the skull along a bunch of things.
@@bubblymilkshake9055 Well, humans are not machines, and so its much easier to lose stuff. I just pile this under carelesnes/incompetence on behalf of the police. Shame really. With the loss of the skull, so goes the really slim change of identifying the remains.
@@Greendalewitchone of the coppers wanted a cool ornament on their shelf?
Shane looks like a college professor that’s been up late arguing with his wife and has had too much coffee
KaylaKay and he mixed some scotch into the coffee
#postmortem
And Ryan looks like he's stuck in an actual zombie apocalypse
#roastmortem
Ryan knowing absolutely nothing about human anatomy for 23 minutes straight.
He knows a lot about bone marrow though
@@immortalperson314 true that
He even called it "human theology"
Tad Strange he said human physiology
Anika
Oh that makes more sense
Stuffing your friend in a tree when they're drunk for a laugh is 100% plausible as a thing that could happen in the UK
Emily Burden wait for real?!?!?!?!
Emily Burden UK be wildin
Init though 😂
Honestly when they said, is that they do in England, and I'd honestly say yes haha
So never visit the U.K. with the boys, ok got it.
“The person who were responsible for this is now beyond the jurisdiction of earthly courts.”
I swear I love the way she used those words I kinda want that to be put on my grave.
Same ! And then top that off with "He who has gone, so we but cherish his memory, abides with us, more potent, nay, more present than the living man." Instead of "RIP"
It seems like a lot of the theories completely disregard the fact that she had a piece of cloth stuffed in her mouth. Whatever happened to her, it involved foul play and the murderer was trying to silence her by shoving fabric in her mouth.
Edit: also taffeta is a type of fabric that is pretty much only used for women’s dresses or curtains so it’s likely that it came from her clothes or there was a woman involved in the murder.
I was thinking the same thing. Very few people would willingly put taffeta down their throat, it's icky so it was most likely used to gag her. They talked about her clothes at the beginning but none of them were said to be made of taffeta. So yeah that raises questions that nobody asked here haha
#postmortem
Completely forgot about that part! I hope they see this comment and acknowledge it in the Q&A video!!
#postmortem
the fact that i thought this same thing is a sign that i need to stop binging criminal minds
wasn't it taffy and not a cloth?
When did Shane turn into Remus Lupin? Was it before or after he insulted and threatened Annabelle?
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking XD
I just noticed this 😂 amazing
DarkKrono I cant unsee it now😂
lol
Now that I look at him he does look extremely like Remus Lupin
Shane looks like an overworked detective while Ryan just looks like one of those frat dads who loves to go to concerts and say "YOOO!" and "BROOOOO" Alot.
new buddy cop movie concept!!
THAT IS NOW A FANFICTION TROPE
@ari • ult stay I- sounds accurate
Or in this case, 'Zoink!'
I saw a comment saying that Shane looks a little like Remus Lupin from Harry Potter, and I can’t unsee it
Shane and Ryan look like divorced dads from an unsuccessful rock band who decided to start a detective agency in this episode.
Shane looking like he’s having flash backs talking about those tornado sirens
Sunny if you’re from Illinois, you do
Lol we woke up at like three in the morning a few months back to the sirens and three counties had to hide in their closets. My little sister was freaking out so bad
Shane says 'crop circles are a lot of work' like he has experience
he's from illinois. we do wild things round here to stay entertained
If I lived in a place near large tall crops I’d definitely make some crop circles.
Don’t call him out like that man
Like you have experience 😐
annesuniverse yes, us and our corn
For Postmortem: the tree did it! Clearly, she was out for a stroll when she passed by too close to the Wych elm and got snatched up. Classic case of death by tree snatching. Very common in Birmingham.
Ah yes! The snatching trees of Birmingham, I lost an uncle that way
@@charleedixon309 I'm sorry for your loss. Dangerous in them woods. My nan always used to carry a penknife with the little saw blade on it. Got her out of a jam or two, if only she remembered it that last time...
@@alanaramessar8662 not just any old trees! Wych Elm!!! The grabbing tree, the leafy snatcher, the devil's deciduous!!!
Yes. Don't go walking in the woods of Birmingham alone
The trees are malicious
@@sus_amongus7097 oh boy, you said it!
"Does hair grow out of the skull?" - Ryan Bergara; son of a dentist
Fun fact: when you mentioned Ryan's idea of a sky burial where Shane's body gets yote out of a plane, someone nearly died due to a falling body once. The body was that of a stowaway on a plane, whose body fell out of the landing gear compartment when the plane went for landing. If I remember right it landed mere feet away from some guy minding his business outside his house. So, yeet your bodies responsibly, kids. #postmortem
oh my god imagine finding that
“And how’d you come across the body, sir?”
“I swear it just fell out of the sky! It nearly killed me!”
“....... yeah we’re going to need you to head down to the station for a few more questions”
*Did you use "yeet" in past tense?*
The body was of a kenyan refugee. The man was British and was spending the afternoon relaxing in the garden trying to get a tan. The body landed a meter away from him.
I thought you were going to talk about Hunter S Thompson's Sky Burial.
Legend has it his body was shot from a rocket.
Theory for post mortem: She was originally searching for food in the forest as the boys had been, but when she heard the air raid siren, she couldn’t find shelter and in a panic climbed inside the tree, she placed the piece of fabric into her mouth as people are often told to do when explosions may be imminent to prevent them biting down and cracking there teeth. Once the air raid was over she realised she was trapped inside the tree and died of thirst or exposure. #postmortem
you should add the #postmortem to your comment so they can see :D
!!
Azure thanks, I forgot I had to do that
@@ingee4421 and be screaming for help
They found her 18 months after her death, could the tree have grown more in that time? Would it have been easier for her to get in earlier, and then the tree growing over her during the 18 months?
Ryan: "Who put Bella in Wych Elm?"
Shane: "Me!"
There we have it, Case Solved. We got him now boys.
Get him, boys.
He also bears a striking resemblance to DB Cooper
Shane is clearly a time traveler and has caused at least 40% of these crimes 🤣 it's why he comes off as unbothered
Ryan quietly saying “could be a wiener” is one of the funniest things in unsolved ever
Timestamp?
@@abigailkaterbergcolibaba 17:41
For the postmortem: as someone who lives literally like an hours drive away, can confirm Birmingham is a weird place and dutch witch spies from Nazi Germany shoved in a tree is not the weirdest thing that's happened there for sure
Accurate lol
I'd love to hear more of the weirder things that have happened
@@MrSnow-qn1ij Well, just off the top of my head a local quite well known comedian had the local mayor officially open his homes extension and garden.
@@db6680 and has now changed his name officially to hugo boss in support of a small brewery to spite hugo boss (original). king
@@zednott688 good point. Totally forgot that. He also ditched a parking ticket by claiming he had parked on the moon. Haha
Ryan
“hair grows from your skull right?”
Also Ryan
“Bones stay linked together don’t they...”
I’m a 18 year old biology student and I’m scared for you Ryan
I love you
All Hail The Watcher!
@@eva-gj6zi Hair grows in China and then is glued on at night by golbins and so basically it's a illusion that hair grows from the head when it's just wigs that grow a milometer from each night based on the previous night and bones are held together by wood screw
@@damienhartley3222 haha! lol
Also, thinking that once rigor mortis sets in -- that's it, the body can't move until it's decomposed
"fun to hunt for eggs with your boys"
Funny you should mention that. You should tackle the Frog Boys (Korea) as one of your true crime cases!
Agree!! There are a lot of eerie unsolved cases in Asia (like the 1997 Chiong Sisters Murder Case in the Philippines, 1979 Tan Children Murder in Singapore, the murder of the Miyazawa Family in Japan in 2000, The Stoneman Murders in India, and a lot more!) and they should def delve into it more #postmortem
I've been suggesting this case for years good to know that there are more people doing the same
THIS!!!!!
Damn I thought the same. Would be really interesting to see them talk about it..
“Just put me in a canon and shoot me to the sun”
“Like god shot me out of a gun”
Honestly, this is the only reason I’m surviving quarantine.
these are tally hall lyrics
How does he casually use “epidermal layer” in conversation yet not know about hair follicles?
I think it speaks to the fact that he reads up on so many cases of crime. Often hair is found on the skull when everything else has rotted. He's alluding to the fact that skin will decompose faster that skin because hair is made of keratin and doesn't rot like skin does.
As a human biologist and anatomist, this episode physically hurt me. “Does the hair grow through the skull” and “Do the bones stay together” will haunt me forever. Also what shape do you think the femur is to enable it to be a decent boomerang!?
All you have to do is bend the bone silly
Benchwarmers Podcast I cant🤣
@@franktheblindpup297 its a joke
I cringed and laughed at the same things. They kill me.
Benchwarmers Podcast of course, I can’t believe I didn’t think of that. Should hand my degree back, I’ve clearly learnt nothing of use :)
British people be stuffing each other in trees and wake up and be like: “right, what’s all this then?”
Octo Ocelot thoughts on Ryans pronunciation of Birmingham
LMAO YES
“roit, wot’s oll thees then”
every Wednesday i hide my friends in a tree, sometimes they don’t came back
Octo Ocelot yep, can confirm this is a common occurrence here in Britain!
I swear the way Shane's looking rn, he is 100% qualified to be cast a professor lupin
His Brit accent isn’t too bad either lol
@@elliecarlson2788 that too
I'm going to suggest him in the fancasts. Definitely. I see it!
Actually kind of impressed Ryan has been the host of several seasons of a true crime show and still knows next to nothing about the human body.
Some helpful tips : hair does not come from the skull, skeletons don’t stay together by themselves, and rigor mortis takes several hours to start, then goes away after a couple of days.
I'm convinced the boys are going through a shared mental breakdown.
Miss Sunshine when are they not
"Folie a deux"-style?
They share the same brain cell 😂
Like the people that danced to death in France!😂
I think they just found some really good maryjane lol
Ryan's understanding of anatomy makes him sound a bit hair-brained.
😂😂
“This is the episode called Ryan knows nothing about human PHYSIOLOGY”
It's funny how Ryan knows nothing about science. The fact that he said "This episode is called Ryan knows nothing about PHYSIOLOGY" when in fact, he talked about parts it should've been anatomy *(anatomy is to parts; physiology is to function)*
yes
You're too funny 😂
Y’all, biologist here to help: hair comes out of skin and skin breaks down faster than hair or bone…which would make it look like hair was coming directly out of a skull if it wasn’t disturbed during the decomposition process.
Petition to get Ryan's dad to do an unsolved episode involving dental records that helped solve a case, just to brag to Ryan.
Signed.
I too am signing.
Signed.
Rowena Scott they both left , but what does that have to do with anything? not being mean just curious
GUYS WTF MAKE THIS TOP COMMENT
Shane and Ryan give off “beloved history teacher and his favorite jock student years after graduation who still hang out” energy
That’s oddly specific. But agreed. 🤣
Lol 😂, you should really see Shane do puppet history on their channel Watcher
Being someone that lives literally 5 minutes down the road from this stories location, it gave me chills to hear you name my town and pronounce it pretty accurately, also, the paper my father worked at (e&s) and then thirdly mention the name Clara (my nan named her car Clara). It's a very well known case even now and people still leave graffiti asking the same question. I have images of the area I can send if you'd like to use them in the post mortem!! Obviously, loved this episode!!! #postmortem
You should put #postmortem on your comment so they'll see it
@@storycox2412 cheers. Such a noob haha
The Booch 🤭
I’m from Wolverhampton and it was so strange hearing that read out haha!
@John Greenfield I bet! It's a proper local legend around here. There's an obelisk on top of the hill where it happened that is fenced off to try to stop people graffiting it. Needless to say it fails.
Really makes me uncomfortable how Americans pronounce the 'ham' in Birmingham
In the UK we sort of pretend the H isn't there, like 'Birmingum'
Can also confirm that people in the UK absolutely would stuff their friends in a tree if they get too drunk
Damn brits!
See most people in my area would just do it to see if they fit and then probably forget about it
It's just how we are taught too pronounce it.
In my town (in America) we pronounce it “Birming-am”
same, "ham" was soo odd to hear
“You think we’re not listening to ya?” WE’RE STILL WAITING FOR THE FRENCH PEOPLE WHO DANCED UNTIL THEY DIED! #postmortem
YES PLEASE HMMMMMMMMMM
gonna go google this
God. Damn. Right.
I might be wrong, it's been a while...but I think buzzfeed did do a side episode about that but no host. Just a person talking about it over photos. Which could be why. I'm not sure but I think I saw it like last year?
OMG!! YES! I don't think it's going to happen unless someone pins Shane in a corner, with a needle full of heroin, & Ryan the ghost of Christmas past, present, & future for that to happen.😔😔
“It’s starts in the brain, Ryan” and then stares directly into the camera. Shane cracks me up. Great episode guys.
You're pretty.
deadeyes SIMP
Hair growing through skull-
I see why Ryan is always scared, the way he sees the world is terrifying af!!
lol
The unbelief that Shane and I, a biologist, share as Ryan explains that hair is attached to a skull is UNREAL
@Joy Back it’s an accepted word in the dictionary. Sounds like someone should educate themselves🙂
@@kashu6310 what word was it?
@@emiliajosephine3616probably unbelief
#postmortem the fact that her bones “went missing” makes me feel like she’s a spy even more. What’s more spy like than disappearing after you’ve already died and disappeared once
I think it's more to do with the general ineptitude and indifference of the local police.
@@timeladyshayde honestly was there a fire or smth??? HOW DO YOU LOSE THE ONLY RELIABLE EVIDENCE YOU HAVE IN A CASE? and like.... there's a lot of bones in a skeleton and you lost them ALL????
@@ositaiza888 The case went cold, they put the skeleton in a box on a shelf somewhere and in the last 70 years police forces have been merged, split, moved to different headquarters etc. If they assumed she was a local prostitute I doubt they would have been terribly worried about solving the case. Police don't care about murdered working girls, especially in the middle of a war.
timeladyshayde I agree, but it adds to the mystery of the story, and with something that was so obviously cared about by the people surrounded by the case, it seems odd that the remains would just go missing
You see they're questioning whether British people would stuff their drunk mates in a tree as a joke but they're absolutely right cause we would 😂
Oh we really would... 😂 I would like to stuff my friend into a tree now it would be funny
Have been stuffed in a tree drunk before can confirm it’s funny💪😂
Absolutely
Probably take turns getting put into them too.
"Wouldn't it be funny if they couldn't get out and died? Hahaha!"
ryan and shane arguing about the starting point of hair is peak level of chaos and i’m very much here for it
Why is no one bringing up the Shane’s “like God shot me out of a gun” quote?!
Interloper * 💀💀
Interloper * no i just found it funny that’s all
@Interloper * it pretty much means that's cold....but true
Shane never fails to disappoint me during quarantine
I can 100 % agree
Shaneiacs roll out sendgod tiktok
Wait so he dissapoints you?
Wait, so he disappoints you every episode?
What, why???
“The one person who could give the answer is now beyond the jurisdiction of earthly courts.” I mean... 😭 the WORDING.
I was brought up near Hagley and the woods there are remote from any nearby small towns, you could scream your lungs out there and its unlikely anyone would hear you. The graffiti reappeared in the 1970's and scared the hell out of the kids in the area for a while.