Do I Need 88 Keys To Learn Piano?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • Do you need all 88 keys to learn to play the piano? Ted Barsalou explores this question and how a smaller keyboard can serve the student as well as when all 88 keys are needed. For those who are beginning their journey to learning piano there are cautions and encouragements that every student needs to know.
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Комментарии • 38

  • @thepianoplayer416
    @thepianoplayer416 Год назад +11

    An interesting topic that has been asked many times before. There are 2 considerations:
    1. The technical level of the music: a piece for a beginner or lower intermediate is not likely going to require very low or high keys on both ends of the keyboard so you can get away with a basic 61 model.
    2. The time period the music was written: the early keyboards which is a harpsichord had 61 keys from low F to high F (5 octaves + 1). Composers from Bach, Handel to Mozart, Haydn & middle period Beethoven were written for keyboards with fewer keys. Keyboards didn't have 88 keys until the late 19th century so composers wrote pieces that require fewer keys.
    Today the common 61 keyboards are from low C to high C. To be on the safe side at least 76 like the Yamaha P-121 instead of the P-125 with 88 keys. A while ago someone posted a demo video on the P-121. The reason for him not getting the P-125 was because the keyboard needs to fit in a tight corner so the extra few inches made the difference. And he still has enough keys to play the pieces at his level.

  • @daniel_dumile
    @daniel_dumile 10 месяцев назад +11

    I want this guy as my music teacher for everything

    • @daniel_dumile
      @daniel_dumile 10 месяцев назад +1

      I love this high speed no-cruft information, with respect for your audiences intelligence. He speaks on my level.

  • @lucvandesande2893
    @lucvandesande2893 6 месяцев назад +2

    This man is a personality in all things piano and keyboard, I am an absolute beginner and I like listening to what he has to say, he clearly knows what he’s talking about, and for me that alone is a pleasure and worth listening to. By the way, in one of the comments I read about long sentences, people talking in long sentences is a sign of intelligence, so, thanks for the insight !

  • @ajoydas-Watch-It
    @ajoydas-Watch-It 4 месяца назад +2

    I bought my first piano 3 years ago it just sat there a privia casio 560 i ended up giving to a friend it was just to intimidating and to much to take in. I went into thinking im a very good and fast typist on a pc keyboard so my brain will adapt fast but boy was I wrong. Now I want to try it again and figured maybe less keys would be beneficial in picking up the craft easier so thank your for this video.

  • @Pamelamusic371
    @Pamelamusic371 Год назад +1

    I am a bass player, I love my piano though on my I want to play both clefs classical music days! I have a Yamaha 76 keyboard older keyboard I’m so interested in the DGX670, FANCY🥰🥰🥰😎

  • @jakeblack212
    @jakeblack212 8 месяцев назад +1

    great info I', 66 and looking to see if I can Play like my Family member could

  • @samacosta837
    @samacosta837 Год назад +2

    Thank you for the information. I appreciate your time and your knowledge.

  • @alexanderwilliams1731
    @alexanderwilliams1731 3 месяца назад +1

    I wanted to learn piano & I took piano lessons for a short period of time wanted a piano in my room studio is not big enough for me to fit a full size piano in so I just decided to be a keyboardist

    • @Zoco101
      @Zoco101 3 месяца назад

      How short is short enough? You might still get a P-121 if you look around. They have 73 keys. Inexpensive too.

  • @zazamithendir9235
    @zazamithendir9235 Год назад

    Thanks for bringing this interesting topic to us. I think that 73/76 keys are a right sweet spot between learning with the right posture and to be able to play any modern piece of music and the majority of classical piece of music.

  • @SamiJumppanen
    @SamiJumppanen Год назад +3

    You asked for comments. I just wanted to say this video is covering the topic really well, thank you!

  • @d0ngh0stmusic
    @d0ngh0stmusic 3 месяца назад +1

    thanks for the info!

  • @peterneerincx23
    @peterneerincx23 10 месяцев назад +3

    88 keys is a must!

    • @grantbarnes6004
      @grantbarnes6004 3 месяца назад +1

      Mozart would like a word

    • @pr-tj5by
      @pr-tj5by 3 месяца назад

      I'm starting late in life but I don't want to make a mistake if I need 88 keys

    • @peterneerincx23
      @peterneerincx23 3 месяца назад

      ​@pr-tj5by you will never regret buying 88 keys. Also, only 88 keys are fully weighted.

    • @pr-tj5by
      @pr-tj5by 3 месяца назад

      @@peterneerincx23 Well if that's the case then it's the only way if you ever want to play a piano, I'm looking for a digital piano I can sit on a table so it'll be 88 key only

  • @tronlady1
    @tronlady1 9 месяцев назад

    I never use the top octave even on advanced pieces so 76 would be bang on for me. Also would be much more portable and lighter. WHY don’t manufacturers make 76 key pianos they woukd sell WAY more surely?

  • @georgelane3564
    @georgelane3564 6 месяцев назад +1

    No, you don't need 88 keys. I have never seen beginner, or even intermediate exercises that require 88 keys. I learned in a classroom of 64 key Whurlitzers.

  • @user-pj9jx6jv4c
    @user-pj9jx6jv4c 3 месяца назад +1

    I just brought a 61 key

  • @tronlady1
    @tronlady1 9 месяцев назад +33

    This guys sentences are REALLY REALLY LONG. I’m running out of breath listening to him. All he had to say was “no, just get a 76 key piano”.

  • @argi0774
    @argi0774 10 месяцев назад +6

    If you want to learn piano you need 88 weighted keys. Less than that are not weighted. Then you are learning keyboard, not piano

    • @reesemorgan2259
      @reesemorgan2259 6 месяцев назад +4

      I would imagine you can adapt to weighted keys. I learnt piano as a child on an acoustic and have forgotten most of it. I'm not going to jump in and buy an 88 key acoustic piano though, because I know me: I'm easily distracted, not made of money and I live in a relatively small space. To get back into the swing I think a keyboard with sixty-odd keys will be enough for now. I know the point you're making though - technically you're learning keyboard and not piano.

    • @argi0774
      @argi0774 6 месяцев назад

      @@reesemorgan2259 No you can't. Because you already learned crap technique

    • @sorenpx
      @sorenpx Месяц назад

      @@argi0774 So it's impossible for a human being to adapt? A person can never improve their technique when circumstances require it?

    • @argi0774
      @argi0774 Месяц назад

      @@sorenpx Yes correct

  • @user-ds2yw2ct9n
    @user-ds2yw2ct9n Год назад +1

    Where do you even get a piano with less than 88 keys? Save for Yamaha P121 there are hardly any sub88 weighted key models, at least where I live.

    • @BP-mq5fx
      @BP-mq5fx Год назад

      thomann has many products with less then 88 keys :)

    • @user-ds2yw2ct9n
      @user-ds2yw2ct9n Год назад

      @@BP-mq5fx sure, I've bought a yamaha PSS50 toy from Thomann for my teenager the other day, but I was referring specifically to pianos.

    • @moleedaboi
      @moleedaboi 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@BP-mq5fx do you know the difference between a piano and a digital piano keyboard?

  • @davidspencer5380
    @davidspencer5380 Год назад +1

    Shucks Davey Crokett never did!

  • @Zoco101
    @Zoco101 4 месяца назад

    The 88-key necessity is so overblown. Few students would ever need that many on a digital instrument. Even Beethoven used 73-key pianos a lot. Arguably, 88 could be useful for 4-handed pieces or exercises, but this idea becomes an absolute nonsense on the keyboards which don't even have (fully) weighted keys.
    There are many applications for shorter digital pianos (with fully weighted keys) but the manufacturers, distributors and retailers are in denial about this and we the consumers are pushed into this one-size-fits-all box.

    • @pr-tj5by
      @pr-tj5by 3 месяца назад

      I'm starting out and the different opinions make it tough, think I'll just jump in on an 88 key weighted keyboard

    • @Zoco101
      @Zoco101 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@pr-tj5byThere's very little choice other than 88. If you're on a tight budget consider the Alesis Prestige or Prestige Artist. Slightly better models include the Roland FP-30X and the Kawai ES120. If you can afford a home piano with a furniture aspect, well and good. Casio has some good models at very reasonable prices. All of these have 88 graded weighted keys.

    • @pr-tj5by
      @pr-tj5by 3 месяца назад

      @@Zoco101 I'm looking for something I can play on a table, I'm not looking at paying more than £500 that's probably around $600-$700 ish

    • @Zoco101
      @Zoco101 3 месяца назад

      @@pr-tj5by It's strange, but my replies are not showing here, so I may be duplicating info. I understand you perfectly. The Alesis Prestige is very cheap, but the sound and action are OK. Perhaps you've found something else which is similar. If you want to play pianistically and without strain, the piano needs to be at the right height for you, and this is why I recommend a strong adjustable stand. A double X or a Z stand for instance. If you must use a desk/table find a chair which is high enough. I recommend having your forearms on a horizontal plane.