As a film photographer, I think that's really important to print your work. It finishes the job and it gives life to the picture, it gives its purpose.
Hi Vakit, I see it like that. The print is the final result - especially for artistry photography. People engage so much more with printed images than with a digital intermediate layer. Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from the mountains of Austria, Christian
It is the same with a DSLR or what ever your taking photos with. It is an extension of the arts. Gives me satisfaction & wish that I could financially justify a larger printer.
I used to print B&W photos in a home darkroom, before digital. It was a hobby and I could spend hours in the dark room with music on adjusting prints. Maybe only print 3 or 5 a night and spend a long time thinking about it all, making test prints, adjusting the contrast and exposure, trying different papers. It was really fun. I miss that now with images on the screen. I dont miss developing film though, that was quite boring in comparison to watching the prints appear in the developer. Although even that wa interesting as you could adjust the grain by using weaker developer fluid. I now many years later want to have that same experience so I am looking at modern photo printers. I think you have found the same thing, the joy of the process rather than the result. Oh and I never sold a print! I dont think most people did years ago, it was just a fun activity.
Hi Dunk, this is exactly the point. Printing is a fix part of my landscape photography and I totally enjoy it. Thank you for your insights about your dark room experience! I'm convinced you would love the printing process as well and I hope it will bring back that piece of the past for you, which you enjoyed already back then. After using the P900 for more than one and a half years now, I can absolutely recommend it, because of the things I mentioned already in the video. I picked out another video for you, which could be interesting for you, as you are interested in getting into printing: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html I hope this helps :) Nice greetings, Christian
@@christian.irmler Nice one, yes I've been looking at the budget printers but it does make sense to live a little and get something good to use. Will check out the video. Thanks
Love your videos. I just purchased the 900 and its phenomenal. The Fotospeed staff are fantastic. Tim and Vince in sales get back to you straight away (bar weekends!) But I tried some sample packs and am having a fantastic time trying out just straight prints at the minute. I use capture one and soft proofing is something I need to try and will but the profiles are free. I have the I1studio that I use for each paper with success but need to compare those profiles. It's just little adjustments but I did not regret my P900 purchase and as good as labs are, I understand the need to do it all in house. I love both landscape and portraiture where I now know that this printer will serve me well. Keep up the great videos and more on the P900 please maestro 😀
Hi my friend, oh yes, I'm also more than satisfied with the P900 and the support of Fotospeed is really outstanding. I try to produce videos here on my channel in a way, that it is most useful for landscape photographers who want to improve their photography and who want to get inspired by photography ideas. My main focus goes not so much on gear (a little bit from time to time), but much more on - how to get strong photographs. Anyway - I see printing as an important part of the photography process, it can even improve your photography. So yes, definitely - there will come more videos about printing on my P900 as well. I made already a bigger printing tutorial video, where I gave some tips of how to get out better prints, where I show my whole printing process - also how I softproof an image. I used Lightroom though, but finally it doesn't matter which software you use for your softproofing, as the principles are the same. If you are interested, here the link: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings, Christian
I admire your enthusiastic presentation. I'm similar you, in that self printing has pulled me through the full range of creating an image.... but at the end of the print I am still holding a piece of paper that I need to hand-off to a framer to finish for me. Therefore I have begun the process of learning how to mount, in various forms, the product for final presentation. Something to consider.
Hi Yukonica, thank you so much for your kind comment, my friend! Yes, I absolutely agree: the print is the final stage of a photograph. The digital image is just something like a - "positive", maybe 😊 Using a framer is a really important thing. There is nothing worse than shooting a photograph with gear that costs thousands, choosing the best possible paper to emphasize the image, and then to put it into a cheap "rubbish" frame from the discounter 😆 Have a great weekend, see you in the next one, Christian
Just came across this video and your channel. Funnily enough I have been on the verge of getting a printer (this Epson or the Canon 1000 you mentioned) and I have had the exact same thoughts and doubts as you, along with the reservation that the printer has to be used just about daily to avoid automatic cleaning processes which consume a lot of ink, and I am not sure that I will be needing that quantity of prints. Yet, everything you say is true and I think finally your video is giving me that final push to get (probably) this Epson printer. And the excellent lab Printspace has been getting quite a bit more expensive, so time to take the plunge too. Thank you for the video and for your wise words and great enthusiasm, and I have now subscribed.
Hi @photonomist6345, thanks a lot for your kind comment, my friend. Yes, the cleaning process eats indeed a lot of ink, independent on the printer and brand. The question is just if it runs all 2-3 days or only when I start one manually 😊 A warm welcome to my channel and nice greetings, Christian
Thank you for this nice video. I am encouraged to get this same printer. Digital is nice, the print is the final product. I have seen fantastic prints from this printer. Cheers from the northern California coast!
Hi Forrest, thank you for your kind comment, my friend! This printer is indeed a fantastic choice. I decided on it because of all the criterions I mentioned in the video. And now after 2 years of using, I have to say that I'm still more than happy with it :) Have a great Sunday and enjoy printing, Christian
Tranks a lot for sharing, very good overview! To understand you correctly, one of the most important criteria for your printer choice indeed was the design, having a printer to fit into your office surrounding? I am at the edge of decision for my first printer and understanding the choice of others is very valuable.
Glad you saw the light & chose such a great printer. I have its little brother, the SC-P700 and it's excellent. Fotospeed is a wonderful company who always give great service.
Hi Roger, thank you my friend! Finally I would say, there came a few things together, that I saw the opportunity. But that's life :) Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria, Christian
Hi Lokman, thank you my friend! I just changed my studio lighting. Really cool, that you recognized it :) Thank you so much for watching and enjoy your Sunday, Christian
My old Epson R2880 still does a great job. I print in speed mode and saves a lot of ink. You don't need level 5 in print mode it only uses a lot more ink. We as a human don't see more detail Quality above 300 - 350 dpi. I use Ilford Gallery Paper. The Hänemuhle paper i used a few months but it dissolves when the sun shines on it. I earned my printer back a thousend times. Printing as a professional means earning money. And i olso use the P900 now.
Hi Erik, thank you for sharing your experiences, my friend 🙂 Yes, I made the same experience according to printing resolution. There is a threshold of dpi where it doesn't make sense to go above. If you go higher, there gets just more ink onto the paper. I used Hahnemühle for many years and I was happy with it, I have to say. I didn't make an experience with dissovling paper. Either you got a batch of paper that had any mistake or I could also imagine that the dye ink of your Epson R2880 transformed when there was sunlight shining on for a while. The P900 is a pigment ink printer instead and so much more resistant against sunlight. Possible that a special paper/ink combinations don't work, especially for dye ink. But tell me if it was for the P900, would be interesting and then also which exact paper you used. I've also tried Ilford and some other brands, but I have to say, I'm quite happy with Fotospeed for some reasons, which is why I totally changed to that two and a half years ago. Nice greetings, Christian
Hi Alternatif, oh - I think my studio is not the most spectacular in the world, there is not all too much more to see in my studio :) But we will see, maybe I'll show a bit more in one of my next videos. Thank you for watching and nice greetings from Austria, Christian
I will be buying this printer this year. I am not sure if you now, but fotospeed have a great youtube channel and do a lot of tutorials including one on hardproofing. :)
Hi my friend, In the moment it is a bit rarely to get, each distributor has just a few in stock. But I can highly recommend this printer. Although I was in tight contact with Fotospeed over more weeks now, I didn't recognize that they have an own RUclips channel. So, thank you for the tip :) Thank you so much for watching and enjoy your weekend, Christian
@@christian.irmler Thank you. Yes even in the uk only a few dealers get regular stock of the P900 and then only 2 at a time. I am not looking to buy one until maybe the autumn, so hopefully by then things might start to get back to normal with electronic supplies. Fotospeed also have a printing and tips group on facebook too. :)
Thanks. I will watch that now I know it's been recommended so highly. Is it better to start with epson papers or go straight to photospeed in your opinion?
@@mchjubjub6915 Paper is generally a big difference. My opinion: We invest lots of money into our camera, lenses and filters - we are grateful how our gear can manage all the megapixels. So it were a shame to print it on low quality paper. On my experience, the paper that is produced from the printer manufacturers offers not the properties like the paper from premium paper manufacturers. Which properties are most interesting for paper? 1) Matte, glossy, semi gloss 2) Dmax: This value tells how much details do you see in the shadows, 3) Colour Gamut: This is how many different colours the paper can hold, depends on surface and colour of the paper, 4) Texture: It depends on the style which fits better to your photo - and on the taste of the photographer of course. Hahnemühle offers fantastic paper, but as mentioned in the video: Fotospeed offers custom profiles - free of charge, what makes really a big difference. I can't tell you if you should go with Fotospeed, I just can recommend it as a good company with high quality paper for a good price. I hope this helps :)
Hi Alain, thanks a lot for your kind feedback. Really fantastic that it was useful for you. For the case that you'd decide for the Epson P900, I wish you all the best with your new printer! Nice greetings, Christian
I made the same decision some years back with an Epson 4900 - and I don‘t even sell prints. The ink in these printers lasts really long, but nozzle clogging and waste ink tor cleaning is a real issue, if you don‘t print regularly (every few daays). Looking back I would say that printing, next to buying my own lights and flashes, led to jumps in my photography.
Hi Jan, yes, nozzle clogging is definitely an issue, when you don't print on a regular basis. Best thing is to print all the time. But uf there don't come in enough new photographs, you could work at least at older photographs, when you don't sell prints. It is also an issue for me, when I'm traveling for 1-2 weeks and not at home. But I'm happy, that Epson doesn't do nozzle cleaning all few days to eat all the ink. It's okay to print at least once a week, to get rid of nozzle clogging. So I come away with stressful weeks where I can't print or when I'm traveling. I totally agree - printing improves your photography. Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings, Christian
Thank you Christian, For a year now I have been indecisive about which printer to get. Like you say there did not seem to be a printer in use that didnt have some issues I.e. changing the black cartridge on one model etc. Maximum size of A3 or a3 + was the limit and even 40 years ago I was printing huge images in darkrooms I used so I wanted A2. Epson 900 seemed the way to go but still wasnt sure even after watching jtoolman and northlight images who are both fantastic by the way. Until I saw your setup. I only watched initially thinking it would be a lab versus print your own review. You talked about your landscape photography which was really interesting and how you worked out the costs etc which I did and really enjoying your talk, you went on to talk about the very printer I nearly bought but wasnt sure about. I have used epson for years but wanted either a canon 300 or epson 900. How delighted was I to see you mention the resolution, ink issues, and comparison to canon pro1000 where you admit that it is a little better but you turn colours down effectively making the epson a sensible choice. I like your approach and have subscribed now😀 Heres hoping you'll be as fit soon as you were before. Thank you very much 👍
Hi my friend, thank you so much for watching and a warm welcome to my channel! The colour space on the green and blue side is just slightly better on the Canon pro, I guess you would not really recognize it on a print with lots of blues and green on it. It is more like a comparision of two cameras, the one with 60MP, the other with 61 :) The photo of my today's video contains lots of greens and I printed it on a Baryta, what looks just fantastic. I think low ink consumation and handy design were finally the key features for me on the Epson P900. How much ink it finally really consumes I will see in some months. What's definitely positive here is, that it doesn't do an automatical cleaning process all 2-3 days like other models. Have a great weekend and nice greetings from Austria, Christian
@@christian.irmler Christian. The information you passed on initially is why I purchased this printer. The swapping cartridge and waste issues prevented me from the investment but I felt I had to comment again now that I have purchased the printer. I hope you are improving in health and wish you all the best👍
Really interesting journey. l get so much pleasure from printing, but it is such an expensive business. I've just printed some off for a camera club competition, and even then printed a couple of smaller versions to check I was happy before going large (A3). I do love that I can try a few different settings before I make the final print. I have had a Canon Pro 1 for about 5 years now. At that time Epsons did the ink switching that put me off. This looks like a great printer.
Hi Bassbarbie, yes, it definitely leads to costs, but I would not like to miss my best photos printed on fine art paper :) I observed the printers the years before I bought this one and as you have said, the previous model had some properties I was not happy about. The P900 is indeed a great printer now. Thanks a lot for watching, my friend. Enjoy your weekend, Christian
Hy Oyun, thank you my friend! I showed just a tiny part of my process, but there will come an own video about my entire printing process. Cool that you recognized the changes in my studio lighting. I needed the light to be a bit more neutral, to get the prints shown in right colours :) Thank you for watching and nice greetings, Christian
i came for the printer review and started wondering what camera you using to record this crisp and clean video im in love also do you have a video for entry level computer may it be a laptop or desktop for video photo editing
Hi @TheKweenOfKings, thanks a lot :) I use my Sony A6500 as my main indoor film camera with my Sony GM 16-35 f2.8 lens. For photo editing you don't need a special computer, when we are talking about entry level. For video I would say any computer with SSD, 16GB memory minimum and a strong graphic card, if you don't want to wait hours for rendering a 15 minutes video :) The strong graphic card will also help you to get your photo editing software running faster. For traveling I use a powerful laptop. But there is a really big potential to safe money, in my experience. I think to remember that I mentioned the laptop I currently use in my video about how I changed my lifestyle for having more time for photography: ruclips.net/video/ZUIMrVeShA8/видео.html But I'm not sure how much I went into detail there according to the laptop. I hope it anyway helps :) Nice greetings, Christian
Hi my friend, thank you for your comment! This video was not meant as entire review, I just wanted to give insights about why I decided for this particular printer - the Epson SC-P900. This channel is not a tech channel, I focus more on the art of photography here, whilst I bring in also some technical topics of course, from time to time. And yes, so true - printing is a big fun :) Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria, Christian
Klingt sehr überzeugend, damit eine gute Entscheidung. BTW: dein Bild - und besonders das Licht- von der IM Hütte ist phänomenal. Da hast du ein super Gap der Wolken über den Kalkspitzen am NM. erwischt. Eine geniale Gegend dort 🤗🤗 LG Klaus
Hallo Klaus, vielen Dank! Jetzt im Nachheinein betrachtet war der Drucker eigentlich sogar fast eine logische Entscheidung, und immerhin mehr als reiflich überlegt :) Ja, die Giglachseen sind eine absolute Traumgegend. Dass das Licht so auf die Hütte gefallen ist, war ehrlich gesagt pures Glück. Ich hoffe, dass mir mein Knie heuer erlaubt wieder zu Touren wie dieser zu gehen. Die ganze Gegend da oben steht eigentlich jedes Jahr fest auf dem Plan... Ein schönes Wochenende wünsch ich dir aus dem Salzkammergut, Christian
The best photo printers you can buy right now are the Canon PRO-200 (lower up front cost, low running costs, modest ink costs per mL, dye-based, 13" wide) and the Epson P900 (high up front cost, low/modest running costs, low ink cost per mL, pigment based, 17" wide). I have the Canon PRO-200 and am very impressed by it, it is truly excellent for color. The Canon PRO-300 and Epson P700 don't make sense to get (just buy the Epson P900 it is cheaper long term due to ink cost per mL OEM and is a more capable printer), and the Canon PRO-1000 is too old and uses way to much ink for cleaning cycles.
Hi my friend, really great to hear that you found a printer, that works well for you! I think it is not really possible to compare these two. The PRO-200 is an A3+ printer with dye ink, the P900 is an A2 printer with pigment ink. I sell prints in A3 and A2, so I need the possibility to print A2. And as I don't know where my clients hang their prints up on their walls and which light situation they have there, I also need a quite high light stability, that is given with pigment ink. But it is as everywhere: The right product is that, that covers especially your requirements :) I'm happy with the P900, it fulfills everything I need and the print quality is absolutely amazing. Thanks a lot for your comment and nice greetings, Christian
Hi @tripsefotos, yes, I can absolutely recommend the P900 for A2 size printing. It's simply good in every point. Have fun with printing ;) Nice greetings, Christian
if you are taking photo, do the editing, then soft proofing and you are getting something else when printed, then I think you should carefully check your process. just bought Epson 900 and I love it, but if you were getting something different on a paper and you are saying that "well paper is different" then you must be doing something wrong. either you don't calibrate before editing, or you don't use the correct lights in your office/work area, then if your process is perfect, then your lab is terrible. you don't spend thousands on the equipment to have a print differences compared to what you have seen on the screen. simple like that
Hi Edmunek, thank you for your thoughts and congratulations to your new printer - that was definitely a good choice :) Basically there is a difference in how we perceive an image on a screen and how we perceive it on paper. Reason therefor is simply, that the way of how light comes from a screen, with backlit pixles, is different to how it comes in form from reflected light from a paper. On softproofing (and we need to calibrate our monitor first, of course) there is simulated the appearance of all the colours and also the contrast of different luminance levels though. It is simulated quite well, but it anyway doesn't look exactly equally than it does finally on paper. There are even big differences between different sorts of papers. There is no way to simulate gloss or texture on a screen, for instance. Especially for an artistry photograph on fine art paper, there is given more micro contrasts suddenly on different areas, due to a different amount of texture in the brighter areas. On very high textured papers you could even intentionally overexpose on selected areas in your composition, to get even more texture out. This all ends up, that it could have an impact to the balance and even to the flow of my composition, what I was simply not able to consider on the monitor before. On papers with a lower Dmax, like it is on my preferred cotton fine art papers, for instance, I also have to finetune especially for the contrasts in the shadows. It is simulated on the screen though, and this gives already a really good sense of how it will come out finally from the printer - but to get it really nailed (and I'm quite picky here), I have to finetune it - and this means, that I print, check, print again - as long as it takes that the image works. And the more texture, the lower the Dmax, the longer this usually takes. In this video here I show my entire printing process, where I mention even more details: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria, Christian
I got a high end epson photo printer from a friend who was a pro photographer who retired recently super high end and im excited to start printing myself vs going to a lab for 5x the cost
@@christian.irmler Im excited to print a few images I took years ago that I didnt want to pay a lab to print. Only downside is ink is expensive and each single print will be like $8 in ink cost so I will have to learn to be careful with printing.
Hi Carlos, before I bought the printer, I calculated the printing costs, based on the specification sheet of the printer and the sort of papers I wanted to use. If we'd consider just the ink, I have calculated 1.56 Euro for A4, 3.12 for A3 and 6.23 for A2. But after a usage for over a half year now, I have to say that it depends totally on the paper and the quality you print. It doesn't make sense to print with maximum dpi, if the paper doesn't take more, for instance. I think you can safe even 30-40% with the right settings (rough estimation). I made already a video about "Hot to get better prints", where I show my entire printing process, also my softproofing and which settings I use for my fine art paper. There is also a tip included how to safe paper, what is much more expensive than ink :) Here the video link: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html I hope this helps. Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria, Christian
@@christian.irmler Does the P-900 uses lots of ink (head cleaning?) every time it is switched on? For example, if it's to be used once a week to print several prints... Thanks!
@@carlosdias2403 Hi Carlos, I usually print multiple times a week, but I've heard already from other photographers, that it doesn't eat as much ink when printing just once a week, as the Canon Pro 1.000, for instance - which starts automatically cleaning processes all 2-3 days. The Epson P900 doesn't do automatic cleaning processes at all. You have to care about cleaning by yourself. This is good for ink safing, but if you don't print for more than a week, I would start a cleaning process manually. All in all, it is a quite ink safing printer, I have to say. I hope this helps - nice greetings, Christian
I thought about the same and bought the Epson SC-P900. Unfortunately, this printer didn't function from the start. Three repair attempts without success. Finally I got a new printer as a replacement in March 2022. And still the same problem with borderless printing. The business support center of Epson asked me for a test print and the print head got burned (error 031006). The end of the story: Epson told me, that my printer is out of warranty and I have to care of the repair costs by my own .... two years of endless emails ...two years of packaging and returning this huge printer .. two years of frustration. Enough is enough. This case will be handled by a lawyer and I will advise my IT department to stop buying Epson printers.
Hi Alexander, I'm so sorry that you had issues with your printer! I never print borderloss, to be honest, so I didn't face any problems here. But independent of the printer, I have to say: Borderless printing leads generally to a higher wearing of the printing head, as it has to go over the edges all the time. There goes also always a bit of ink on the rolls, so that also the rolls lose their grip much earlier. In my opinion, it is generally better to print with a small border and to use a cutter afterwards. Generally, it doesn't matter what you buy, there is always the risk that you get a broken product. Important is that it gets repaired or replaced then. That Epson ignores that you reported the issue already sounds strange. I in your case, would write a final email with a summary of the whole issue for hands of the management, because I can't believe that they don't offer a solution. Bigger companies need often stiffer structures. I would not rate an entire company just after a maybe wrong decision of a first level supporter or so. However, I cross my fingers for you that you'll get a soon solution. Thank you for watching and nice greetings, Christian
Hi Michael, yes, absolutely important. Quite amazing is how much of impact printing has had on my photographic improvement. I don't want to miss my own printer anymore, to be honest 😊 Nice greetings, Christian
Thank you for very informative (as usual) video. I totally agree about images on screen and prints being a completely different experience. Just recently, I ordered a bunch of print from a lab and 2 pictures stood out: one of them looked kind of boring on screen, but I decided to print it anyway and it looks amazing in print. Another one is exact opposite: I was quite with it on screen, but on print all small flaws became really obvious and finally added up, resulting in pretty "meh" image. I guess, attention we pay when looking to the printed image is way higher then that of a purely digital image. Also, it would be really interesting to see your Lightroom workflow, from RAW file to the ready to print image.
Hi Sergey, thank you so much, really happy that my videos are useful for you! Yes, I also think, that viewers engage deeper with a print than with a digital image. Maybe the reason is, because the digital world is too fast - one click and the image is gone, but a print doesn't "run" away :) But there is also a big difference between the mediums - screen and paper. It even looks a bit more after art when its printed :) I totally love fine art prints. Showing my entire processing flow for priting sounds after a good idea. Thank you for the input, that is so important for me. There will come a video about that in future :) Have a great weekend and nice greetings, Christian
Hi …thank you for a no fuss explanation . Fully agree. When you were soft proofing for the lab am I correct in thinking the lab provided you with an ICC file for the paper you were going to use on “their”printer …their profile ?
Hi Eddie, yes that's right. You can download icc profiles for the different sorts of paper from the website of the lab. This video could also be useful, it is all about getting better prints. I also explain the profiling and soft proofing a bit better: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html I hope this helps :) Nice greetings, Christian
Hi Ben, oh yes - fine tuning is really one of the key elements to get out better results, but independent to the paper. Each paper has different Dmax and colour gamut and so another behaviour. Actually fine tuning is not only important on printing, but already on the composition out in the field. Good photographers might be good fine tuners in all layers of photography :-) Thank you so much for watching, nice greetings from Austria, Christian
Great job this has given me. Lot to think about. I have so many questions, a few being. When you mentioned selling 5 or more prints a month to make it worth it. At what price would you sell the print for and about what is the cost to produce each print? Next if I am not printing every week will my ink dry out? And lastly about how much is the cost of ink and how many prints can you get from one full ink set? Thank you so much.
Hi Kristen, thank you for your kind feedback 😊 Those 5 prints a week was my personal idea back then, but as mentioned in the video: it's a bad idea, I would not calculate with that. It is not all about saving money by printing yourself. In the beginning, I invested even more money than before when I printed over a lab, because I did much more hard proofing to get out a better quality. In the beginning I needed even more hard proofing, till I understood how to softproof my images already in front so that I don't need to hard proof with all too many attempts. Of course, you will come to a point, when it becomes cheaper again compared with a lab, which is given by the number of orders you get. But again: I would not decide on a printer for economy reasons, I would do that if you want to improve your prints and your photography as well! The more you print, the more you understand how to take a photograph out in the field, to get it in the best possible way onto the paper. I think even about paper choice when I'm working on a composition out in the field 😊 The ink will not dry out immediately. It is more that you have to be careful that the print head doesn't dry out. I think, if you print at least 1 print all 14 days, you are fine. Recommended is 1 a week, but I know photographers who print all 14 days and that works for them. If you go over these 14 days from time to time, it should also not be a problem. I also went above that already when I was out for a longer trip. But in that case, I start a cleaning process, just to get sure that everything works as it should before I go on printing big. The ink prices always change. Have a look at different shops, there are some differences in the prices. But always use original ink! How many prints you can print is difficult to say, that completely depends on the resolution you are printing, the paper, and the colours on your prints. The single colours will not get empty at the same time. I just can say that this printer is really ink saving, compared to others, especially when you don't print much. Others start a cleaning process all 2-3 days, which costs tons of ink :) This one doesn't do that, but you have to do that yourself when you don't print for a longer period, as mentioned above. I hope that helps 😉 Nice greetings, Christian
@@christian.irmler I can recommend Keith Cooper he talk me into getting the P900. I could never get the printer service to work as I intended, so I need my own printer after I retire in 3 years time. Uwww.youtube.com/@KeithCooper
Hi Alex, thank you for your question! After two and a half years of using the P900 I'm still quite excited about it. It still works and I have to say that I print quite a lot 😊 I've also heard some users complaining, but in most cases it was just wrong usage. Get sure to print at least once all 2 weeks and always use original ink, then you'll be happy with this printer. I hope this helps 😉 Nice greetings, Christian
@@christian.irmler thank you so much for the reply! Everyone I see on RUclips just reviewed this printer when it came out and probably got it for free ;) I'm actually still using my Epson 3880 and loving it! This printer seems amazing. However, if I update, I might go with the Canon Pro-1000 as it has chrome optizmer ink which helps for glossy prints to avoid bronzing. Unfortunely Epson printer seem to lack this option. We'll see though. This pretty certainly looks sexy, ha! thanks again for the reply
Hi Exocomp, we have to be careful here about how we define "accurate color". As you can see in my other videos, I love fine art photography and I'm not all too much interested in reality :) So, if we mean colors from reality by accurate color, I see it like you. I shift colors slightly, change the saturation of several colors, even the luminance. And I put a lot of effort into all that for a single photo. So, it is quite important for me that the printer prints the colors then as close to that as my monitor shows them. Or short: I want to be that one who decides for the colors, not my printer :) Color is quite important in fine art photography, as it allows also to change the mood of an image. There will come an own video just about color here on my channel. But give me some time therefore, it is an important topic for me and I want to get the video as useful as possible. Thanks a lot for your comment and nice greetings, Christian
Hi Marc, definitely - the P900 is such a fantastic fine art printer, I'm also totally happy with it and I would not want to miss it :) Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria, Christian
Hi Giancarlo, it depends on the quality you are printing and on my calculation it is anything in a range of around 1,50 to 2,50 Euro for one A4 print. Generally the P900 is quite ink saving. No automatic cleaning processes all 2-3 days, that empty your ink, like it is for other printers. I hope this helps :) Nice greetings from Austria, Christian
I wonder if the soft proofing takes care, at all, of the "super-bright" anomalous colour difference between light with UV and without...just one more issue about fine tuning...
Generally, it is a good idea to have a quite equally stable environment light in the room you process your images. I think, using a labor would be already a little bit of overkill :) The final product for me is anyway the print itself. And therefore I use a quite stable light source. We should also not forget that the experience of colors is anyway a bit subjective for every viewer and it is also a difference where you hang up the image, finally. How does the interior look there? How bright/dark is the room? Which other images hang there? :) I don't want to do pixel and color cosmetics. Important for me in the end is that the image conveys the mood I want to convey :)
Hi Enes, this is a fantastic idea. There will come an own video about my entire printing process on my channel. But please give me some time therefor, as I'm still tweaking a bit around due to my new printer. The base process is the same as before when I was printing over a lab, but I want to optimize my new process before I'll give advice here. You know - first of all I have to learn how to run, before I'll teach how to fly ;) But definitely yes - video will come in some time. Enjoy your Sunday and nice greetings, Christian
What about the Epson Photo EcoTank ET-8550? Ink cost are less. I use ET-2851 with only 4 colours and photo prints look good. It has limit color gamut compared with real photo printers but with the help of profiles print look good to me ;). Soft proofing with good ICC profiles are essential to make prints look better.
Hi Hans, there are lots of different printers out there. I haven't tested that one, to be honest. But as I can see, it supports pigment ink though, but just 6 different colours, what will limit the colour gamut. This is usually really a big difference. The P900 uses 10 different tanks. And then it is just an A3 printer. The P900 supports up to A2 and with the optional paper role device, you can even print long panos. All in all it looks more like an office printer to print documents. If this is important for you also to use it therefore, you can consider this as well, when you just print for yourself. I have a laser printer beside my P900, where I just print office documents. Photographs are just printed with my P900. The accurancy of the P900's paper feed is quite good, by the way. This is usually not the best at cheaper office printers. If you want to go for the et-8550, I would recommend to research after how good the print head is and if it is prone for clogging. If you don't need A2 and you want to get massively better quality than currently with your ET-2851, I would recommend to have at least a look at the P700. It is exactly the same as the P900, just smaller up to A3+ and without paper role possibility. It's the smaller brother and I think also the ink is a little bit cheaper for this one. It always depends on the quality you need/want. The quality of the ET-2851 is already good enough for you, as you've said. The P900 will definitely perform better. Ink is more expensive. But what is important for you? For me it was quality and reliability in the device. I personally don't want to get cheap prints, I want to get fantastic quality. But it is a question of preferences, for sure :) I hope this helps and I'm sure you will find the ideal solution, especially for your needs, Christian
Hi Lukas, it depends on the chosen paper and the printing resolution. I made a calculation, once for the P900, based on my settings. Check the other comments, I answered that already. I hope this helps :) Nice greetings, Christian
Hi Jonathan, thanks a lot my friend! Fulfillment, exactly - and the funny thing is: Before I started printing by myself, I thought a lab would deliver better prints than printing with an own printer, because they do this every day in high numbers and have a better printer. It is true, that they have more expensive printers, but they never processed the image for me before printing, haha :) Thank you so much for watching and enjoy your weekend, Christian
Hey Christina, Finde es echt cool das du dir jetzt auch einen eigenen Printer zulegt hast, und wie du es sagst: Bilder selbst zu drucken eröffnet einem eine ganz neue Sicht auf die eigene Arbeit und hilft einem dabei wieder Schritte nach vorn zu schaffen. Bei mir ist es oft mals schon wenn ich ein Bild schieße das ich dann schon überle welche Art von Papier dieses Wert am besten zur Geltung bringt.👌 Hab schon oft nach Fotospeed Papier gesucht aber nie wirklich gefunden, Bestellst du es direkt bei denen? Wünsch dir einen schönen Feiertag und ein schönes Wochenende Gruß. Stefan 😁
Hallo Stefan, vielen Dank! Das von dir beschrieben Verhalten, on location zu überlegen wie der Druck dann aussieht, hatte ich mir im Laufe der Zeit eigentlich auch angewöhnt gehabt, allerdings hat ganz einfach das Finetuning im Softproofing Prozess gefehlt, das ich völlig unterschätzt habe :) Das Fotospeed Papier hab ich - nach langem Suchen - von einem Händler aus Deutschland bestellt: www.fine-art-papiere.de/fotospeed-267/ Ein sehr freundlicher Händler, hat mich sehr gut beraten, kann ich echt empfehlen - es gibt auch Testpackungen um die unterschiedlichen Papiere auszuprobieren. Und der Support von Fotospeed hat mich übrigens auch positiv überrascht. Aber dazu gibt es vielleicht noch ein eigenes Video :) Einen schönen Feiertag wünsch ich dir, Christian
It would be nice to print a little larger than 17 inches wide at 5760 x 1440 dpi. Is there a printer that can print 20 22 or 24 inches wide at 5760 x 1440 dpi?
Hi, the P900 can print up to Din A2, which is 16.5in x 23.4 inches. Additional to that you can use a paper role to print even bigger at the longer side. So, you can prin quite big with this printer :) I hope this helps. Nice greetings, Christian
I just bought the p700 so far, very good. Going to take a while to figure out how to always or almost always get the best prints. Priner Ink for this printer is very pricey. I hear ink for this printer is 1/2 piinter ink to 1/2 pint of human blood is the ink is over twice as expensive.compared to human blood. So now I've decided to print using only A .B and O negative. I hope I don't bleed out to quickly.....:-))
Hi @Mr.HotRod, Congrats to your P700. It is the same as the P900, actually, just the little brother. But I have no idea how expensive human blood is, to be honest :) I wish you all the best with your printer. Here a video about how to get better prints: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html I hope this helps. Nice greetings, Christian
Hi! Druckst du immer direkt in der epson Software oder wie ist es dein Prozess, sobald du ein Bild bearbeitet hast? Arbeitest du mit Profilen je nach Papierart? War heute auf einer Messe und dann habe ich den p900 entdeckt. Sah vielversprechend aus :)
Hallo Mati, ich bevorzuge es direkt aus Lightroom zu drucken, weil ich damit meinen kompletten Druckprozess besser abbilden kann. Inzwischen drucke ich doch relativ viel und das spart mir eine Menge Arbeit. Profile sind absolut notwendig, ich verwende hier sogar individualisierte, selbst das ist ein merkbarer Unterschied. Etwas mehr über meinen Druckprozess und was ich sonst noch alles mache um bessere Prints zu bekommen, findest du in meinem Video "How to IMPROVE Your Printing": ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html Ich hoffe das hilft. Den P900 kann ich übrigens wirklich sehr empfehlen. Die Pro's hab ich ja schon im Video erwähnt. Schöne Grüße und bis demnächst ;) Christian
Hi Nicholas, yes definitely. Analogue photogaphy was generally more expensive. Each click out in the field occured already costs and we had to think twice if we really wanted to take the shot :) Thanks a lot for your comment and nice greetings, Christian
hello master, could you tell me how many impressions it would make under normal conditions throughout the useful time of the p900 printer, and the maintenance box says to give 50 000 pages ,but it must not be true, you change the maintenance box by doing how many prints, I know that this varies depending on the A4, A3 or A2 size and if it is borderless worse, but an average, would you know how to clear my doubts, thank you...
Hi Paulo, that's really, really difficult to say, as it totally depends on the number of cleaning processes you need. I print multiple times a week and so I don't need all too many cleaning processes. I guess, when printing less often, you will need even more often to change the maintenance box. I think, how often you have to change a box will reach from 2 times a year up to once all 2 years. This is just an estimation, I don't know it exactly. If you print not much, I would recommend to print at least once a week or once all two weeks, so that you come away with a low number of cleaning processes, to save ink. As the maintenance box is not all too expensive, this is a totally secundary thing for me, it is more about the ink consumtion. But I have to say, that is also quite low for the P900, unless you have to do a lot of cleaning processes. I hope this helps, Merry Christmas, Christian
Hello sir, thanks for such valuable information.❤ I am looking for big size printer ( between 24" to 36", also should print on sheet as well as on roll) The running cost should not be too much. I looking into Epson because here Epson ink is available easily in compare to canon. My aim is to print art on canvas, matt, satin and luster. paper. Please suggest me some Epson printer. Thanks 🙏
Hi Santosh, thank you for your question, my friend! The Epson P900 can print just up to Din A2, which is around 16 to 23 inches, but there is an option to use paper roll to print larger. In that case you have still around 16 inches on the short side and the large side is up to the length of the paper roll, which is big. If you want to print even bigger, you'll need a large format printer. I have to admit, I never engaged with printers that can print bigger than the Epson P900, as I don't need that all too often. You will have to research yourself here in that case. I can just recommend to look at the same things I looked at for the Epson P900, which I mentioned in this video. I cross my fingers for you that you'll find the ideal printer for you. Let me know, as soon as you have found it. Would really be interesting 😉 Nice greetings, Christian
Danke für‘s Teilen deiner Erfahrungen, Christian! Ich bin noch in der Phase, dass ich „drucken lasse“... alles andere wäre noch total unrentabel 😉 Hab ein tolles Wochenende und liebe Grüße aus München 🤗
Hallo Chris, vielen Dank für's Schauen! "unrentabel" - so hab ich früher auch gedacht :) Wenn man natürlich nur sehr, sehr selten was drucken will und das Drucken in keinster Weise im Vordergrund steht (Fine Art Fotografie), dann ist ein Labor natürlich die bessere Wahl und da ist es auch gut, dass es welche gibt. So oder so, es ist schon schön ein eigenes Foto gedruckt in Händen zu halten :) Ein schönes Wochenende auch dir aus dem Salzkammergut, Christian
Hei Christian, so you mean that the printer doesnt need clean its selv using ink ? so does means that the printer doesnt need to be stand by all the time? . I thinking in buying. this printer for artwall digital printing and offer to my custumers the prints for 50 usd a piece for A2s. Its this the right printer for the job? How many prints i can do before i must by new ink? thanks so much for your help.
Hi @bryllupsfotofilm, yes right. It doesn't do automatic cleaning processing all 2-3 days as other printer are used to do. And that saves really tons of ink 🙂 You just should get sure to print once a week, or at least once all 10-14 days. If that is not possible you should start a cleaning process manually. You don't need to turn it off, you can keep it in standby, it doesn't consume lots of power. And yes, the printer is fantastic for selling prints. I do the same, actually 😊 The number of prints is impossible to tell. It totally depends on your photos, which colours get used how often, it depends on the saturation of the images, the paper, and the resolution. And when ink goes do its end it is not that I replace all inks together, I just replace that single one that got empty. And the printer empties it really completely. The catridge is dry afterwards. It is really extremely ink saving, I have to say. It's a good printer. And that said, I'm not sponsored. I also bought the printer and also the ink with my own money. I hope that helps. Enjoy printing, Christian
@@christian.irmler Thanks Crhistian, just 2 q: So can i turn off the printer whitout a problem? or has to be standby?. To sell A2s digital art online..which paper should i use (affordable) ? thanks a lot
@@bryllupsfotofilm Yes, you can turn it off as it anyway doesn't make an automatic cleaning process. To you paper question: I was always interested in the "best possible" paper. Rather paying a tiny bit more for the paper, but getting better quality. Hahnemühle paper was my number one choice for multiple years and offers quite high quality. But meanwhile I switched over to Fotospeed paper as they offer custome profiling free of charge. The quality is fantastic and also the price is okay. I hope that helps. Nice greetings, Christian
Really thorough journey through your thought process and conclusions. There is definitely a satisfaction in creating the final product. Excellent presentation about this Epson printer. Thanks for putting this together.
Hi James, thank you so much my friend - really happy that you liked the video! Yes, there is satisfaction. Meanwhile I enjoy also the printing process itself :) Have a great weekend an nice greetings from Austria, Christian
keep in mind that after the print head is dead later (and it WILL die because off the piezo elements which build the nozzles), you have to buy a new printer... please calculate that in the print costs, not only ink and paper. Also a calculation on per print base is very fuzzy because not every print out of the printer is perfect as you get it from a good lab. And if you take it seriously you have to recalibrate the printer after replacing colors from time to time. A good lab does this periodically some times a years for every paper when the colors shifts. We produce digital proofs and fineArt prints so I think I know what I am talking about.
Hi my friend, every hardware will die earlier or later, of course. I have already invested much much more into paper and ink than the price of a printer. When the day will come that I have to buy a new one or I have to pay for maintenance, the costs therefore are a minor value for me. There is nothing wrong with printing over a lab. Depending on the lab you can get fantastic quality, as well. I even suggest beginners to start with a lab to get into touch.. But for me I see the big advantage of getting feedback immediately after printing. This is simply not possible with printing over a lab. My finetuning process is much better today and ultimately my prints are better. I still use labs for super large formats. Labs are good! Thanks a lot for your contribution and nice greetings, Christian
Don't worry, Piezzo print heads are made to last for a very long time, compared to the bubble jet technology. I own a couple of Epson 3880 printers, one with a page count of over 17.000 prints and still no issues. Also calibrating every now and then does not really make sense, apart from doing it after EVERY ink replacement or when opening a new paper role. You have to trust your suppliers and the cosistency of their products, thats why you buy from companies that guarantee constant QA.
Hi my friend, thanks a lot for your friendly addition :) I personally don't consider this to be honest and I never saw a big difference here. On my experience the more quality paper manufacturers have also more stability in their papers. But it were definitely interesting to hear the opinion of a paper manufacturer here. I'll connect to my contact from a paper manufacturer and maybe I'll mention the result in one of my next videos. I'm just not sure how fast I'll get an answer now, in the last week before Christmas :) We will see. However, thank you meanwhile! Nice greetings, Christian
Good morning Christian! Interesting topic :-) I worked with light and colour, professionally, for some years, in a different 'space', but...it's literally impossible to change the fact that emitted colour is only the same as reflected colour in a very, very narrow range of situations... any tiny change in the illuminant spectrum can cause subtle, or not-so-subtle, changes in the image...the UV response of the paper is a big one, as any fluorescent properties are blocked by the ink pigments, so tjat the 'white' reflectance apparently changes, losing a bit of the 'excess blue' in the whitener, just one example, but the spectral response of the pigments can also vary a lot with different illuminants...sigh...
Hi Lohi, thank you for your explanation, what really adds to this video! I'm quite happy with my Spider Elite to calibrate my screen and it ends up in usable results, but of course: The ambient light is definitely a big difference. There are even differences between inks. The amount of changes in different light situations is different for instance, if you use dye ink or pigment ink - although pigment ink seems to be a bit more light stable in my experience. But I'm not an expert in these printing things, to be honest. I'm just a user who recognizes things while using :) All in all I have to say, I'm really happy about the colours, which I get out finally. What I found out already is, that it is a good idea, to have the prints a few days on the table and always look on them - in different light situations. After some days I have more idea what to change. Have a great weekend, Christian
@@christian.irmler thanks, sir...interesting thing, the dye inks allow the paper to 'show through somewhat morem since they are not composed ofnsolid particles, like pigment inks...good call! At my previous job, the designers woukd have some colour patch they eantednto jsem and wanted an LED to match that colour! My wuestion then was "under what lighting? " ;-) today, with a properly calibrated rgb LED, i might be able to make it shif colour to match lighting conditions...to some extent. Metamerism, that's the word that i was trying to remember, the difference in apparent colour for objects under different lighting spectra! It's a big deal in pigment-based colours. And, for you, also, a nice weekend?!
Hi Ersin, a good question: Yes, I do this process of softproofing, that I mentioned in the video. Adjusting the exposure in blacks, shadows, highlights and white is an important part here - especially because the "dynamic range" on a paper is different than on a screen. There will come an own video on my channel, about all the processes before printing in future, for sure :) Thank you so much for watching an have a great Sunday, Christian
Uhg. Hurts to think about $400 usd per cartridge set! I almost wonder if there is a better option. It would be wonderful to see a tank version of a p900! Also, is it your customers being concerned with the fine tone adjustments, or is it more you seeking perfection? I find that in design, I am always the biggest critic. My clients are usually clueless about the details I lost sleep over. Then you have to consider the differences between four ink/tank machines vs 8 or more ink/tank printers which cost far more to keep up and refill. Might be a happy medium for a part time hobby/business to go tank printer, and use lab for special projects. Loved tgw video though. Best wishes in your ventures. P900 on my radar, but I only printer interior 3d render concepts. 8550 is hard to pass up. Next year will look at 24" width printers.
Hi my friend, we should be careful here what we are comparing. The main reason why I didn't buy another printer the years before was the ink consumption. I started to engage with the P900 actually, because of lower ink costs :) We have to understand: there is a big difference between dyi ink and pigment ink. Pigment ink is light stable and doesn't change with time when you use the right paper. The P900 uses pigment ink. And when we want to compare the P900 with other pigment ink printers now, I have to say that the P900 is on the cheapest side. Don't compare cartridges by cartridges. Also when you calculate the price per milliliter it is dangerous to compare, because a lot of other printers do automatical cleaning processes all 2-3 days and that eats amazingly much ink. So, no - 400$ for a cartridge set doesn't hurt. I use the P900 now for around 1.75 years and it ate even less ink than I had calculated. And to tones: In my experience, shifting colors slightly can have a big impact to the mood of an image. I do this a lot in my processing and it leads to remarkable differences. When I print then, of course, I want that the colors are as accurate as possible. My clients are not interested in the tones itself, of course. They are interested in the full package: a print that conveys the mood, which the artists was meaning. The P900 makes things really easy here for me. We have to consider that I create fine art photographs. It might be a difference if you would print photos from a reportage photography session as any festivals, weddings, etc. I don't want to say that accurate tones would not be necessary there, but we anyway don't put that much time into a single photograph there than as we do in fine art photography. The wedding photos would get quite expensive if I would spend 10 to 20 hours into each single one :) For me the printer is really the perfect one for fine art photography, I have to say. I print multiple times a week and sell a lot. So, it definitely works as a business printer, as well :) Thanks a lot for watching and have a great Sunday, Christian
@@christian.irmler Very good, on additional insight. All extremely valid and the achievability of a print should be taken into consideration. You are looking at a very specific case use for the p900. I was merely pointing out some opinions from a more modest view point. The other big question that remains in my mind is the life expectance of low use cartridges. If you were not going to print as much as you do, should one expect clogging issues? All my prior experience with Epson cartridge printers has been issues with clogged nozzles. My tank printer can sit for a month or two, fire right up and ready to work. Even if I were to take cartridge cost out of the equation, what about reliability for occasional use? I have no issue owning various printers for specific tasks. The purchase of a $1300 P900 isn't even a thought as to price, or even the $400 cartridge set if I knew it could sit for long periods of time unused. What concerns me in additional to value vs. necessity is reliability of a low use printer. Again, I have a lot of respect for you and your content. My personal case use is CAD/technical prints, and also high end 3d render prints of home interiors. Art print would be the hobby use of a P900, along with enjoying the occasional 17" wide benefits of larger presentation prints for clients. Thank you.
@@Curious_Skeptic Ink has generally the property to dry. It doesn't matter which brand you go for, an ink based printer will get clogging issues when you don't print for a longer timespan. Other brands do automatical cleaning processes all 2-3 days to avoid that. But in my opinion this is way too often, it leads to too much ink consumption. I know some photographers who print just one print all 1-2 weeks with the P900 and never got clogging issues. I traveled a lot this year and so I had periods where I didn't print up to 3 weeks. When I was traveling for less than ~14 days, I used my printer as usual when I returned. But when I was traveling for longer than ~14 days, I started a manual cleaning process by myself, just to stay safe here. This always worked fantastically for me and I never got any issues. I would recommend to print at least one print all 1-2 weeks, independent for which ink based printer you go, in the end. Maybe I could win you to get a bit more into artistry landscape photography as a hobby. You could print your weekly landscape images than, besides your CAD and 3d prints ;) And it is such an enjoyable hobby :) I hope this helps, nice greetings, Christian
I picked up a r3000 and a r2000. Both are wonderful! The results are stunning. I print at least once every other day. The matt 13x19 paper prints are truly 😍. Next, I would like to explore 24" photo printer. Easy to fall in love with these high quality wonders!
Hi Jirka, well, for an amateur photographer who doesn't sell prints, it might be not economic to buy an own printer. But I think, I would also need an own printer, if I would print just for myself, because I like my photographs printed and this last finetuning process makes such a big difference - I didn't see this for years. But of course: If you print just 5 prints a year or something like that, the ink in your printer would get dried before you'll use it next time :) If you want to use a printer for finetuning your own prints, you should have to print anything each week, or at least all two weeks. There is definitely nothing bad with printing over labs. I did this for so many years and I got out really fantastic results. My tip here: Stick with your lab, stick with one or two papers and learn the paper to know, so that you get experience how you have to softproof your images next time, to avoid mistakes. I always ordered one A4 print in front to see, what I have to change and then I ordered the A3 or A2 print. Thank you so much for watching and enjoy your Sunday, Christian
Excellent video! Those shots you took look fantastic as prints Christian. Great work. I can only imagine the quality you will get as you explore and get more into different techniques. Also the fact you have a 60MP A7RIV camera now should make for some beautiful definition in your landscapes. Thanks for sharing the look at the new gear my friend 👍🙏
Hi Adrian, thank you so much! Interesting question, which difference is on printing between photographing with 24MP aps-c and 61MP full frame. I think, this could even be interesting for an own video - as soon as my knee is better and I'm able to carry 2 camera systems and 2 tripods with me to get a comparison :) Have a great weekend, Christian
Hi Jose, oh, I'm sorry to hear that. To be honest, I just print on fine art paper between 300 and 315g and this works fantastically for me. Which problems did you especially face when printing on poster boards? Skewed prints or something like that? Nice greetings, Christian
I have a lowly Canon Pro-100, (bottom of the line, dye-based) and print only occasionally (from LR), either using Canon paper or on Red River Paper greeting cards. I am much happier with the prints I make compared to those I have gotten from a lab, even with this bottom of the barrel setup.
Hi Keith, you do everything right with that. I haven't seen this for years :) And it is quite funny: I thought, I'd got better quality from the lab, because they have the better printers. This remembers me a bit to photography itself: The one with the better camera must get out better photographs... I fell into exactly that trap, I always mention for photography itself :) Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria, Christian
@@christian.irmler You made the best choice for someone who sells prints. If I had customers I would want an A2/pigment based printer also instead of an A3+/dye based printer and I would be more concerned with the paper quality too. :-)
There is of course no such thing a s a 'fine art printer' as there is no such thing as a fine art print or even a fine art photograph. There is minimalism which a lot of people mistake as fine art. Fine art is simply 'that which the artist sees/visualises' - so in effect all artists whether they be sculptors, painters or indeed photographers are by definition 'fine artists'. So with all of that out of the way - printing your own visualisations, however they are created, is a very satisfying and rewarding experience and I recommend if for all photographers!! Have a good one
Hi Nelson, I think it is all about how we define "fine art photography". If we just mean a photograph that looks like a painting, then everything you said is right. But I see "fine art photography" as a synonym of "artistry photography". And there are definitely a few things to be considered, that a photograph gets to art. Not each photo is art. I made already a video about this, if you are interested: ruclips.net/video/SaMqM6FiFWo/видео.html In there will come a video about the different styles of artistry photography in future here on my channel :) Thank you so much for watching and have a great weekend, Christian
@@christian.irmler Christian - I absolutely agree - in these days of homogenisation and saturation of images across our vision it is important to understand and value the very values which makes us unique as artists. As far as the finer points of fine art - it is of course just a now overused piece of terminology and in the plethora of over saturation of our art we have to search harder - or rise to a greater challenge - to ensure our images stand above the dross of humdrum. Whilst it could be construed that everyone is an artist now we all have smartphones and apps to enhance our images - not everyone can appreciate the effort of our strife to individual artists who strive to create those images which are true to our art and to ourself. We do it because we enjoy creating it. We do it because we enjoying provoking a reaction (my definition of art - that which provokes a reaction) - but we do it also because of some hidden need to create - the tools at our disposal are now more widely available than they were before and to more people. This has been both good and bad. Good as more people can access sharing platforms. Bad because peoples perception and attention is reduced. A well made chair is a well made chair whether it is made in a factory or by hand - but we would always value the one made by hand. the same should apply to art as well. I have been pro for 35yrs and have lived and worked through many great changes - I love the new digital age - but rue it equally for the disassociation it brings. We as a society are less pleased than we used to be. We do not value things as we used to. We are all judges and jurors of everything and each of us now has a platform to voice our opinion - there is an old saying - if you have nothing to say do not say it. I wish more people could take that on board - Have a good one - I truly love your work - awe inspiring. Take care - be safe. Simon J Miller
@@nelsonclub7722 I couldn't agree more with everything you said, Simon. The term "fine art photography" is definitely overused and so many photographers think, that each photo they would take would be art. There will come more videos about this topic in future for sure ;) Nice greetings, Christian
I'm coming back to this printer thing...I don't know if I ever mentioned that I spent about 5 years in photo labs, including 7 weeks of 'factory training' at Agfa in München, and 3+ years in a Kodak lab... plus, of course my 6+ years of global r&d work in LEDs and light. Therefore, your comment about fine-tuning your colour in prints; if the customer has, let's say, medium quality LED lighting, with 90 CRI (could argue about CRI, but..), their experience of colour in your print could be very different from what you see in your 'lab', so that some of your attention to detail may be lost, or even counterproductive, to some customers The ultimate 'solution' would be for you to tune colour under a similar illuminant...but, crazy times, that would be! And not for €100 prints ;-) But, if you had a big print, and a critical customer, you could probably get close to their illuminant, and fine-tune accordingly. What a guy for rambling on, I can be...
Hi Karhu, in my experience, a print looks always a bit different from a monitor. This has already to do with the way how the light gets from the medium to the eye. A screen is backlight, paper not. This is something we have to consider when we are hard proofing, of course. I have that intelligent lamp from BenQ, which offers me a quite stable light source. It is definitely not compareable with a labor, of course. But it works fantastically for me. You find more about that in this video: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html By the way: really great to have you on board here on my channel with your long-term experience in that area! Have a great weekend, Christian
I use a pro DNP 8x10 S80 thermal dye sub printer and a Cannon Selphy thermal dye sub 4x5 inch printer no costly ink and ink jet problems if the printer set to long close to real photos you get from the store foto labs tuff and long lasting like film wish they made a 11x17 printer
Hi @alphonsotate2982, thank you for your insights! I just guess, it is not possible to print on every surface with that as it is with a pigment ink printer, like fine art paper for instance? And paper size up to A2? Nice greetings, Christian
I would not have bought the Epson P900, you would have been wiser to get the Canon Pro 300 for £680, because it does Not waste ink like the Epson! & the Canon cartridges are cheaper per ml, it also doesn’t need a waste ink collector-box also it uses pigment inks same as the Epson, they both produce excellent quality results, but I think the canon offers better value for money & is cheaper to run.
Hi Andy, thank you for sharing your thoughts and giving constructive feedback! The Canon Pro 300 was not an option for me, as it prints just up to A3. As I sell A3 and A2 prints, A2 was a must criterion for me, obviously. The Epson P900 prints even up to A2+ and has even the option to upgrade to role paper, what would allow me to print wide panos up to more meters. What I found out on my research was, that Epson printers just waste ink when you print with extreme high resolutions, higher than it were necessary for the paper you use. But there exist also printers that start a clean process all 2 or 3 days, when you don't print, what wastes amazingly much ink. I printed nearly every day over the last time, because I had to reprint me old prints as well, but I think in future, I will not print daily anymore, it could be that I will have breaks of more days between. You are right, the ml costs for the P900 is high, even higher than for the P800. I can't say how much ink it really uses in the moment, there were no long term tests to find in the web or on RUclips, as it is a relatively new printer and I use it now just for some weeks. As soon as I can say here anything to the usage of ink, I'll mention that of course, in one of my videos here on my channel :) I can't say anything to the quality of the Canon Pro 300, but however, thank you for your constructive feedback, I'm sure it will help the one or other here who is looking for an A3 printer. Nice greetings from Austria, Christian
@@christian.irmler Hello again Christian, thank you for your reply to my comments about large format photo printing, I apologise because I was confusing the Epson P900 with the P700 which is an A3+ printer not an A2+ printer, as per the Canon Pro 300 I mentioned previously, I should have mentioned the Canon Pro1000 Christian as that is a A2+ printer approx £1000 English pounds, as per your P900, I’m a keen photographer of 41 years, & I love ❤️ printers & printing photographs, I presently own an CanonPro100S A3+ printer that uses Dye based inks, whereas your P900 & the pre mentioned Canon Pro1000 uses Pigment inks which are better for fine art printing & permanent for upto a staggering 200 years! My next printer will definitely be a pigment ink printer, probably the Canon Pro 1000, again sorry for the confusion Christian, in the mean time I will certainly be watching any future RUclips videos you produce from a beautiful country Austria 🇦🇹, Greetings from Sunny 🌞 Great Britain 🇬🇧, have fun with this great hobby/industry 📷😎
@@andywharam59 Hi Andy, not at all, there is nothing to excuse :) Yes, the P700 is an A3+ printer, the P900 an A2+ - both with pigment ink. The Canon Pro 1.000 is definitely a fantastic printer and I was already more times short before to buy it and it has even little advantages in colour range for green and blue, over the Epson P900. But I'm not sure, if it is recognizable :) It is in the same price range as the Epson P900, by the way. Have a great weekend and nice greetings, Christian
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In my opinion we should not limit ourselves to "custom profiles" and a specific supplier of paper and printer ink. Sometimes we can buy on local market a paper with wider dynamic range etc. We can also use many times cheaper ink. If we can afford such an expensive printer, we will also be able to afford a calibrator for it. Each printer changes its color characteristics slightly after a period of use. There is no "golden" ICC profile which will always be suitable for your printer + ink + paper combination. You may be surprised how much your printouts can be similar to what you see on your also calibrated graphics monitor after that. You don't need to experiment with color corrections - of course sometimes it may be required, but usually doesn't.
Hi Marek, you are not necessarily limited to a manufacturer when using custom profiles. Custom profiles can be done for every single paper as a paid service. I just find that the whole package of Fotospeed is fantastic: good paper, large selection, custom profiles, great support. And that said, I'm not sponsored by them. Of course, when you want to use a special paper from another manufacturer, we should not limit ourselves here. Thank you for adding this here in the comments! The only thing I would not recommend to do is, using non original ink. When anything happens to the printer, you don't have warranty anymore and in the worst case the manufacturer doesn't repair it anymore :) That's right that the printer changes colour behaviour after a while, but also paper charges are different here. So, it's definitely a good idea to repeat profiling for every new charge of paper. I tend do to that yearly, for instance. Thanks a lot for watching, my friend. See you, Christian
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@@christian.irmler Hi Christian. Thanks for your feedback. Regarding to 3rd party paper - there is no any paid service generating ICC for printer and paper. Anyway - I don't trust such a solution because using 2 the same printers bought year by year, have noticeably different color reproduction. Single ICC doesn't fix issue on both printers. If you have freshly bought printer - it would be ok. My advice is - if you take care about stable color representation, you should buy printer + calibrator as bundle and never base on ICCs from "cloud" - even if they are paid. Moreover - I can see the difference in some color shades after printing 200 A3 sheets. Sometimes I need to calibrate printer every week. You are right about using not original ink. I gained the experience you write about - I clogged permanently the printer's head - even using original ink. It usually happens after 1 year of using printer - which is right after the warranty expires 😁Epson's service priced the service at an amount similar to the purchase of a new printer. Fortunately I have technical skills and unclogged the head in 2 hours by disassembling it and use just distilled water + ink solvent. If we want to use 3rg party inks - we should ask lab about where they buy it. Sometimes a polite technician will recommend a suitable source for you. In my country, most of the labs uses replacements with extreme good results. Of course this is risky but worth of it. Especially when you print hundreds photos. BTW - EU laws forces printer's producers to allow using 3rd party ink. So printer's firmware must honor such a case. I checked my printer - it started doing this. Head warranty this is another issue. Keep doing such a tutorials. In case of mentioned subject - photographers very often doesn't understand why to invest in good printer, how it works, what is ICC and color calibration, how to setup OS tu support monitor with LUT, how to configure Photoshop, Lr/ACR to get printouts reflecting what we have on the screen.
Hey Guys, I wanted to purchase this printer but i'm not very technical or fully understand the specifics. I know it can print up to 17 inches wide but with a paper roll can I paint up to 30inches in length?
Hi Nigel, the P900 is able to load paper up to 17x22 inch. When using the paper role, the maximum print width is 17 inch. The maximum height depends on how much paper is on your role. That's good for printing wide panos. The printer is fantastic. I decided on it because of all the reasons I mentioned in the video. After a usage of 2 years I have to say that this printer was the absolute right decision. I hope this helps ;) Nice greetings, Christian
Hi Βασιλειος, of course, paper choice is very important. The printer manufacturers are focussed on producing their printers and they are really good in that. But there are paper manufacturers out there, who produce even better paper. I mentioned a bit more about paper in this video here, which you have already watched (from 12:53) and also in this video, where I go through my whole printing process: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html Printer and paper are linked down in the description, by the way. I hope this helps :) Have a great Sunday, Christian
Hi Christian, sorry die Störung, aber mit dem Video hast du mich irgendwie "angefixt". Ich bin aktuell für mich zur Überzeugung gekommen, daß Prints die Art u. Weise der Fotografie - positiv- beeinflussen, weil ich denke, das man schon beim Fotografieren eine "Auge" auf einen möglichen Print legt. Das könnte die Qualität der eigenen Fotografie immens erhöhen (so mein Gedanke) Darf ich dir eine Frage stellen: so, wie ich dich kenne, hast du vor deiner Kaufentscheidung gründlich recherchiert. Bei Epson gibt es den 900-er und den 700-er. Der Unterschied liegt hier wohl lediglich in der max. Druckgröße (A2 bzw A3). Liege ich da richtig? Recht lieben Dank für deine Antwort und lg aus der Steiermark sendet Klaus.
Hallo Klaus, das ist doch überhaupt kein Problem, ich helfe gerne. Also ich sehe das genauso wie du. Wenn ich draußen bin und eine Komposition aufbaue, dann denke ich bereits an den Print. Das geht sogar soweit, dass ich die Papierwahl in die Komposition einfließen lasse :) Bei einem Baryta kann ich beispielsweise die dunklen Stellen weiter runter ziehen, was zu einem ganz anderen visuellen Gewicht im Bild führt. Zu deiner Frage: Ich habe mich primär mit A2-Druckern beschäftigt, da ich ja vorher bereits A2 und A3 Prints verkauft haben. Aber der P700 ist mir durch den P900 (unten in der Videobeschreibung verlinkt) natürlich immer wieder aufgefallen. Und du hast recht: Das ist derselbe wie der P900, nur eben für maximal A3 und soweit ich mich erinnere, sind die Tintencartridges etwas kleiner. Aber viele Papierhersteller bieten für die beiden (P700 und P900) ein gemeinsames generischen icc-Profil an und das bedeutet: Die drucken exakt gleich. Der P900 kann auch mit einer Papierrolle erweitert werden für Panoramadrucke. Da könnte man ein Bild von ein paar Metern Breite drucken in der Höhe von A2+. Da bin ich mir jetzt nicht ganz sicher, ob der P700 das auch kann. Der P700 ist auch ein wenig kleiner, falls es dir um den Platz gehen sollte. Aber grundsätzlich muss ich sagen, dass mir auch der P900 durch das Design kaum Platz weg nimmt. Da liegen immer irgendwelche Prints drauf zum Trocknen :) Ob P700 oder P900 - du wirst ausgezeichnete Prints raus bekommen. Ich hoffe ich konnte dir damit geholfen zu haben. Falls du noch Fragen haben solltest, gib einfach Bescheid. Schöne Grüße, Christian
Hi @rusticagenerica, hard proofing is indeed the way to go when you want to get accurate results. Some labs send hardproofs for free (maybe not a high number as you mentioned :)), some take extra money. I do the same when printing super sizes with 1 square meter and above. The P900 can print up to A2. For everything above I still need a lab. Thanks a lot for watching, my friend. Nice greetings, Christian
Hi my friend, really great to hear, that the video was useful for you! Christoph Waltz is a fantastic actor. But no, unfortunately - I'm not related to him :) Why do you ask this? Similar dialect? I mean, he is also from Austria like me. Please tell me, I were really interested about :) Thanks a lot and nice greetings, Christian
@@christian.irmler hahah, thank you for getting back to me that quickly! I am going back and forth since days for my decision between the Canon pro 1000 or Epson P900. Actually the Canon is standing in my apartment already since days, because the price was good, but I can still send it back. I think I am going for that Epson :) About the acting.. there are different things that reminds me of him: one for sure is the dialect, but also some other side notes in your way of articulating and voice pitch.. very calm and good sorry telling! Sorry I just couldnt resist to mention it! I also think he is an outstanding actor (maybe you are too?.. Hehe) Cheers!
@@kevinBlucas That's really funny, I never thought that the way how I am talking would be similar to Christoph Waltz :) But I take this definitely as a compliment. Thank you for telling me! I don't feel myself as an actor, by the way. It's more that I try to stay as natural as possible in my videos. Maybe it is just the "Austrian charme" that reminds you to Waltz, haha :) The P900 is a really great choice, I hope you'll enjoy it ;) See you, bye!
I own a Epson tank printer the best tech in ink jet tech with ink filling by bottles in to tanks eliminating cartridges' realignment procedures for new cartridge's as long as you don't let the ink run out but while printing I can watch the ink levels drop printing photos with it is just like dumping ink on the ground just after ten small 8x10 prints that is why for real photos I will use the thermal due sub printers
I just bought this printer a month ago and I discovered something reaally annoying and quite upsetting: even if you do NOT printer borderless, the printer tends to dump ink on certain positions in the overspray sponge (you can see clearly dark ink lines: use a q-tip to see how much ink is dumped....terrible). Now the P900 overspray sponge is a seperate entitiy and not linked with the waste ink tank, unlike the P800, where the overspray sponge is attached to a small canal that has a slight slope towards the waste ink tank: so any ink dropped onto this the ink will drop onto the waste ink tank on the right lower part of the printer. The P900 overspray sponge does not: So instead of moving the print head all the way to the right side to dump the ink of intermediate cleaning cycles it tends to dump it on the overspray sponge too. Now those who do not want to have their overspray sponge to be soaked with ink and deliberately choose NOT to printer borderless will be deceived. I am in contact now with several people around the world to address this thing (planned obsolescence) to force Epson to issue a new firmware where the print head moves completely to the capping station where it can dump its ink during (intermediate) cleaning cycles, so the ink can be sucked into the waste ink tank and let the overspray sponge to be immaculate as possible. I have contacted Epson recently and I hope to get an answer about this.
Hi @pharmacist5884, sad to hear that you seem to have a problem with your P900. I know that some had troubles with their P900 in the very beginning, but they got a warranty replacement from Epson. I cross my fingers that they will also find a solution for you soon. Have a great weekend, Christian
If I buy a print online from you, it's a safe bet I have viewed it in sRGB, If you want colour accuracy, you must also print in sRGB. I don't think I have seen that explained on RUclips, If I buy a print from your walk-in gallery, I would expect the same colours I saw on your wall. I won't get those colours at home unless I replicate your lighting. I don't think I have seen that explained on RUclips. Me, I think colour is a creative choice. I believe that every individual sees colours differently, just as they disagree on other visual stimuli such as photographs of people, context of photographs, For a time, my two eyes disagreed about the colours of things I looked at. Others' views about which of my photographs are the best differ from mine. If I rock up at the Brighton Pier (Ben Harvey has just been talking about it), I must photograph it for prospective buyers, but I should also offer them different views, and choices between colour and monochrome. Mostly, I would rather you find your own story in my photographs. I can control what you physically see, but I cannot control your interpretation.
Hi my friend, this is so true, I see it in the same way. And I think, that the photographer sees another photograph as his best one than the viewers, draws even wider circles than just colour, although colour has definitely a big impact to a photograph, of course. I would see emotions as base therefor and this is something that differs extremely between people. There will come a video about this topic, for sure :) Thanks a lot for your thoughtful comment and nice greetings, Christian
Hi Christopher, after 2.5 years of using the P900 I can still say that it was the right decision for me. I love this printer :) I hope you'll also enjoy it, my friend. Nice greetings, Christian
Después de comprarme una EPSON SC P900 en enero 2021 y 3 meses intentando q me reparen la impresora ya q da fallos al imprimir PAPEL POSTERBORAD no he recibido solución de arreglo ni cambio de impresora por parte de EPSON. Mucha suerte y que no os pase a nadie mande 26 mail y al final tuve q desistir ya q encima me costaba a mi el papel de mas de 25 pruebas. Un saludo
Hi Jose, I'm so sorry to hear about that. I've heard already about that issue, but I've also heard from others, that they are able to print on poster board without any problems. The time and the cost for the test prints is the biggest problem here, I guess. Just an idea - if you haven't done already: You could record a video for the support, where they see, that it doesn't work and they should take it to them, to solve it or send you paper and ink for testing by yourself. I would not give up - everything else is really fantastic about this printer. Nice greetings, Christian
Custom profiles should not be needed for professional Epson printers, since every printer already gets calibrated in the factory. This also needs to be done when replacing the printhead and is well documented in the Epson service manuals. Without this calibration the paper icc profiles would not make sense. Of course a generic paper profile is not sufficient, you need to download the icc profile that includes the combination printer model + paper you want to print on. Of course a custom profile does not hurt, but technically it is not needed.
Hi JukeJoke, thank you for your thoughts. Well, calibration and profiling are two different things. Profiling offers me the advantage of considering the exact paper. And here are already noticable differences just between different charges of the same sort of paper. Of course, it always depends on how important exact colours are for the particular photographer. But in my experience, especially in fine art photography a slightly different tone can have already a big effect on the mood of the entire image. It is an extra step everytime when I buy new charges of paper, but I would not like to miss it, I have to say. Thanks a lot for watching and nice greetings, Christian
You misunderstand what I wrote. Of course paper profiles and profiling is essential. But it is not needed to profile paper X, with every P900 you own, because they are calibrated. So a P900 profile for paper X should reproduce the same results on every P900. That is why calibration is done and why downloading e.g. a Hahnemühle profile for one of their papers for the P900 works on every P900.
@@JukeJoke I understood you right, I just used to wrong word "charge". What I meant instead was "batch". Sorry for confusing. The thing is that there are production differences in every batch of paper that gets produced, which is noticable. This is why custom profils make sense. We just have to be consequent to reprofile for every new charge of paper we buy.
@@JukeJoke I worked many years with Hahnemühle, but switched over to Fotospeed two and a half years ago. I was absolutely happy with Hahnemühle, I have to say. The funny thing is that it was the custom profiles that are offered free of charge by Fotospeed was the reason to change. That's really a noticable difference. And the service of Fotospeed is phenomenal. I had troubles with my printer in the beginning and I got better support from Fotospeed (for my printer!) than from the printer manufacturer :) I found euqal Fotospeed paper sorts I prefered on Hahnemühle, which was a tiny bit cheaper and some of them offered even a better DMAX than the Hahnemühle equivalent. The custom profiles as a bonus. And that said: I'm not sponsored by Fotospeed. I also buy my paper totally by myself. You can also do custom profiling with Hahnemühle paper or any other brand. But you need to find a company that is doing that for you and you have to pay extra money therefore. All in all, it is easier with Fotospeed, I don't have to care about all too much and the print results are fantastic. When I think about it, they should sponsor me, actually :) Nice greetings, Christian
Hi @zagcatt, I can't agree with that. When I set up my P900 first time, it runs indeed a complete cleaning process and function test, which empties indeed a lot of ink. When I remember right, it was around one third of the cartridges, so there is still enough inside that you don't have to exchange them immediately. But that is the same for all the other fine art printers out there. The P900 is even quite ink saving here. Whilst others make a cleaning process all 2 to 3 days, the P900 does the cleaning just if you start it manually, when you really need it, which saves a lot of ink. I hope that helps. Nice greetings, Christian
@@christian.irmler thank you, good to hear as I was torn between the canon1000 and this . Just almost every (of many) 900 review I’ve read complain bitterly about having to buy all inks immediately, but the canon comes full?
Ja, seeing a print is a different 'experience', beyond the colour science part ;-) Sadly, living in a Wohnung wall space is limited, and even getting a print on the wall is a hassle...oh, and, mounting? Framing? What is your experience, or ideas, about those subjects? Somehow, it seems like a print with just a white, or grey, border, mounted on foam board, is pretty close to 'the artist's view'? Have a super Wochenende, and I hope that your knee continues to improve, and gets you back in the field!
Hi Lohi, oh yes - space is limited and I have also to change here something in my house. The frame (size, colour, style) and the passepartouts (if used) is a big difference and these things generally depend totally on the particular image. Most of the paintings of my grandfather were analysed by experts who chose the fitting frames and passepartouts. But on my experience, what also should be considered is "the world outside of the frame". This means your furniture, the style of the room, but also if you hang a lot of different images onto your wall, an option is to decide for one style of frame, to get the images connected. I'm currently standing in front of a big problem, exactly with this topic, as I got some of the paintings of my grandfather to hang up and I also plan to hang up even more of my photos. I think there will come a video about this topic, when I found the best possible solution. I'm currently in contact with some experts and get totally fantastic advice, really an interesting topic :) Nice greetings, Christian
Hallo Bernhard, von Instagram weiß ich, dass du ganz hervorragende Fotos machst. Den Schritt zum eigenen Drucker kann ich dir wirklich sehr empfehlen. Der Epson SC-P900 ist übrigens ein A2+ Drucker. Es gibt auch eine kleinere Version, das ist der SC-P700. Der ist soweit ich weiß exakt gleich von den Specs, nur dass er eben nur bis zu A3+ drucken kann. Nachdem ich ja Prints in A2 schon angeboten hatte, kam der 700er für mich nicht in Frage. Deutsche Videos sind derzeit eigentlich nicht geplant. Dazu müsste ich einen eigenen Kanal starten und mehr als 1 Video pro Woche neben der Firma ist für mich unvorstellbar. Ich weiß, dass es einige gibt, die 2 bis sogar 3 Videos pro Woche raus hauen - neben dem Job. Aber um ehrlich zu sein, es ist mir nicht ganz klar wie die das schaffen. In so einem Video stecken viele, viele Stunden an Arbeit :) Ich würde mich natürlich sehr darüber freuen, wenn du dir meine englischen Videos anschaust. Ich verwende nur sehr einfaches Englisch - kompliziertes Englisch kann ich gar nicht, haha :) Vielen Dank für's Schauen und genieße dein Wochenende, Christian
@@christian.irmler danke dir! So ein Drucker... schon sehr verführerisch :-) Keine Sorge, ich kann sehr gut englisch, hab viele Freunde aus UK/US, schaue alles auf englisch.
Your argument about he printer resolution being sufficient even at 600dpi doesn‘t hold much under scrutiny, the printer resolution must be much bigger than your image resoution because the printer only is able to print in a few colors natively, the rest of the colors he must create by placing small ink droplets very close to each other so that the human eye can‘t discern them and perceives them as a different color. That happens through creating much higher intermediate images in the native colors of the printer and that‘s the cited resolution of the printer. It has nothing to do with the requires resolution of the image!
Hi Karl, thank you for your thoughts! Colour is indeed a quite important thing for me and yes, the resolution has theoretically an effect to that when it gets too low. I have to say, I tested here really a lot to find the best possible printing resolution for each sort of paper and I'm pretty sure there are differences when we compare a lower and a higher resolution print, side by side with a strong magnifier or even with a microscope. But for me, when I'm just normally looking at them, I really can't tell any difference, to be honest (for the resolutions I use) - also not in colour. And that is what ultimately matters for me. For sharpness, it depends on the paper, I have to say. On my experience, when using more glossy paper, I need a tiny bit higher resolution, for matt paper it can be quite low, even. The hard proofing process is so important, to understand how the print comes out, in the end. But however, thank you for your comment. Colour is important, of course. Thanks a lot and nice greetings, Christian
@@christian.irmler You mix ppi (the classical 300 you see in your editing program, even if it’s sometimes mislabeled dpi) and dpi (the resolution of your printer). ppi is pixel per inch and used to transform the digital image size into a physical size. dpi is dots per inch.
Unless, of course, the Epson P900 print head clogs with the frequency of the Epson PXXXX series printers. Then you will find that using a print service is a lot cheaper. See this Epson P9900 user's experience and the comments on his video: ruclips.net/video/Bf6kOEtgQqE/видео.html&lc=UgwrynplGy2R5xta1Rp4AaABAg
Hi my friend, thank you for your comment! Maintenance is always a thing you should consider, of course. But it is difficult to predict for the P900, as it is still a quite young printer and there is no long term experience with it. Time will show :) Thank you for watching - a Happy New Year and nice greetings, Christian
Be careful: this printer tends to dump ink on the overspray sponge even you DO NOT printer borderless and since the overspray sponge is not connected to the waste ink tank, this will fill up after a time and forcing you to send the printer back to a service center to have the printer to be cleaned.....a type of hidden planned obsolescence. I contacted Epson about this strange behaviour, since it only happens when choosing PB papers (glossy, semi-gloss, satin) and printing smaller than 17"wide papers. It does not happen when printing with MB (matte, washi, canvas), even if you choose smaller sizes.
Hi again, I use this printer meanwhile for almost three years and I print a lot of prints every week with matte and glossy papers, but I can't confirm a common behaviour like that. I could imagine that there is either an issue with your particular printer or with a production batch. I'm pretty sure, Epson will find a solution for you. I cross my fingers for you! Nice greetings, Christian
@@christian.irmler I am in contact with several other people having the same problem. Keith Cooper seems to have the same "problem" and he is not afraid of this, but on dpreview there a few other people noticing this particular problem. Did check the ink dumping by pressing some paper towel on those dark stripes on the right towards the capping station. Again: on matte paper it seems to be absent. Do you print with a particular setting (for example: high speed off ?) when printing with glossy setting (PB) ?
@@pharmacist5884 Interesting, maybe it is really a question of the settings. Again, I never faced it and I print a lot with different sorts of paper: matte and glossy. One thing I do is, which I think could be relevant: I use the lowest possible resolution that doesn't make a difference to a higher one for the particular paper. That is usually something between 240 and 300dpi for wall art, but I check that for the particular paper. Matte paper is usually more at the 240dpi side, glossy one more at 300dpi. A higher resolution would just put ink over ink, which wastes ink and doesn't lead to noticable better quality. I show most of my print settings in this video here, which is all about how to get better prints: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html I hope that helps. Good luck and feel free to keep me up to date, Christian
It makes me laugh, that ' photographers ' spend thousands of £s,$s or Euros on super dangle fangle cameras and lenses, just that they could show it on social media @ 72 dpi. Nuts. Get a proper printer and see your work in the flesh.
Hi my friend, thank you for your thoughts! Finally it happens exactly that, what the industry wants us make to believe: The better the camera, the better the photos. I think one of the major problems here is: Beginners see the "good photographers" using expensive camera gear. The logical conclusion is: The better camera makes better photos. What's not the case, of course. But it is the only obvious thing that is seen by someone who has no experience. And we all were beginners any time in the past... This is also the reason why I emphasis gear not all too much here on my channel, but much more composition - what really leads into good photos, when you get it to work. Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria, Christian
This is a really good printer ruclips.net/user/postUgkxciSwynMJ7PnUvvx11rewiu-yFBkZTl53 . The reason I gave 4 stars for tech support (which I don't think this would classify as tech support) is because once you turn the printer on, it does require a little bit of start up time which may bother some who are in a hurry to quickly print something. To offset that though the printer prints very quickly. I would definitely purchase this printer again.
Hi Анна, it's so good to have the wifi option with this printer, but I generally prefer a cable if it is possible 🙂 Thank you for your insights, my friend! Nice greetings, Christian
Hi Andrei, I hope the Google translater translated that correctly for me. More colours are an advantage, as you get a finer colour match. And pigment ink is definitely better than diy ink. But however, important is that we have fun at printing our images 😉 Thanks a lot for watching my friend and nice greetings, Christian
You are a photographer, you are also probably wrong about the shape of earth. But more importantly, you will soon want a larger printer! SO why didnt you go for the Pro-1000?
Hi Phil, thank you for your thoughts! Well, with the Canon Pro-1000 you can also not print bigger than A2, same as with the P900. Could it be that you have exchanged it with the P700, which goes just up to A3? I sell prints in A2 and A3, this was an important requirement for me. For bigger sizes I offer special editions from time to time, where I print oversizes over a lab (even bigger than A0). The P900 offers a couple of advantages for me, I mentioned in the video. I like also the possibility to use paper roles on the P900 for pano shots. The design is handy, ink consumtion is stunning low, etc. It's a good printer, I like it. Thanks a lot for watching and nice greetings, Christian
@@christian.irmler Hi Christian, I didn't mean to suggest that the Canon would print larger, just was wondering if there were additional outstanding reasons on the decision over the Canon. But I guess those you mention added up are enough. My main curiosity is if there is a way we can know which one wastes or uses more ink, and eventually economical. I searched YT, and looks like they are not there, or not easy to find. Even DPReview did not have much to say about it. I also print on a 44" wide printer, so I needed something for the smaller to medium size, and at the time I think the Canon was a good option, so the Pro-1000 is what I got. My 44" is a Z3200. Also, the software on the inks is less like a police on how you use inks. There are 3rd party that do a very good match, and the few percent can be adjusted with a custom profile I can create. I have been printing for over 2 decades, and LOVE it. I just have not marketed myself for selling prints. But, now I have to, as the costs are too much and our income as photographer has gotten very small. I will be watching your video on that subject. And btw, you might want to think about the question: At what point does water start to bend. And then think about all the photographers that have photographed over 3 or so miles. Most over 9 miles with camera 1 foot above the sea level. Since we are standing on a ball, we are tiny, but we can calculate our perspective vision to know when the earth curve, or hump would get in the way of our vision. So far it has been atmosphere and perspective of vanishing point and converging lines. If this brings up a curiosity in you. Do NOT search for things, as censorship will only get you bias confirmation, and lots of pages of useless info. I would think you would not give it much thought. But I have links you can use to learn what it is we are seeing first, in order to understand it. I have architectural training as well, so we have learned this in school, but most people, and even photographers do not understand these basics of overlapping form, and converging lines, etc.. Also There is a simple curve calculator that tells you based on height where this curve should be and how much it covers. Anyway, the BEST way is to learn a few things and then go to the large bodies of water and test this. As a landscape shooter, you will love it, and you might be blown away. Sorry to steer you, or at least for trying to ....in this direction, but you live in a wonderful location. Here is what people love phtographing at Mountain Canigou. Which shows the sun behind the mountains. This is one of simple truths on what it means. Anyway. I need to watch your print money tips..lol, so I can learn from you on selling prints. Cheers!
Hi Doyen, thank you for adding this here in the comments. This could be useful for those who are just interested in this particular printer, for sure. But for those who are unsure if they should buy an own printer or not, I would recommend to start watching at 0:00 :) Thanks a lot for watching, my friend. Nice greetings, Christian
Your point? The title doesn’t insist that this is solely a printer review. It suggests that he will be telling you about his choice to buy a printer and he clearly describes that decision and experience.
As a film photographer, I think that's really important to print your work. It finishes the job and it gives life to the picture, it gives its purpose.
Hi Vakit, I see it like that. The print is the final result - especially for artistry photography. People engage so much more with printed images than with a digital intermediate layer.
Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from the mountains of Austria,
Christian
It is the same with a DSLR or what ever your taking photos with. It is an extension of the arts. Gives me satisfaction & wish that I could financially justify a larger printer.
If you’re film photographer then you should “print” in darkroom instead of using printer
What difference does shooting on film make?
I used to print B&W photos in a home darkroom, before digital. It was a hobby and I could spend hours in the dark room with music on adjusting prints. Maybe only print 3 or 5 a night and spend a long time thinking about it all, making test prints, adjusting the contrast and exposure, trying different papers. It was really fun. I miss that now with images on the screen. I dont miss developing film though, that was quite boring in comparison to watching the prints appear in the developer. Although even that wa interesting as you could adjust the grain by using weaker developer fluid. I now many years later want to have that same experience so I am looking at modern photo printers. I think you have found the same thing, the joy of the process rather than the result. Oh and I never sold a print! I dont think most people did years ago, it was just a fun activity.
Hi Dunk, this is exactly the point. Printing is a fix part of my landscape photography and I totally enjoy it. Thank you for your insights about your dark room experience! I'm convinced you would love the printing process as well and I hope it will bring back that piece of the past for you, which you enjoyed already back then. After using the P900 for more than one and a half years now, I can absolutely recommend it, because of the things I mentioned already in the video.
I picked out another video for you, which could be interesting for you, as you are interested in getting into printing: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html
I hope this helps :)
Nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Nice one, yes I've been looking at the budget printers but it does make sense to live a little and get something good to use. Will check out the video. Thanks
The new content is coming along nicely.
Thank you my friend, really happy you liked it :)
Great points about self-printing. Thanks!
Thanks a lot, Matt 😊
Nice greetings,
Christian
Love your videos.
I just purchased the 900 and its phenomenal.
The Fotospeed staff are fantastic. Tim and Vince in sales get back to you straight away (bar weekends!) But I tried some sample packs and am having a fantastic time trying out just straight prints at the minute.
I use capture one and soft proofing is something I need to try and will but the profiles are free. I have the I1studio that I use for each paper with success but need to compare those profiles. It's just little adjustments but I did not regret my P900 purchase and as good as labs are, I understand the need to do it all in house.
I love both landscape and portraiture where I now know that this printer will serve me well.
Keep up the great videos and more on the P900 please maestro 😀
Hi my friend, oh yes, I'm also more than satisfied with the P900 and the support of Fotospeed is really outstanding.
I try to produce videos here on my channel in a way, that it is most useful for landscape photographers who want to improve their photography and who want to get inspired by photography ideas. My main focus goes not so much on gear (a little bit from time to time), but much more on - how to get strong photographs.
Anyway - I see printing as an important part of the photography process, it can even improve your photography. So yes, definitely - there will come more videos about printing on my P900 as well.
I made already a bigger printing tutorial video, where I gave some tips of how to get out better prints, where I show my whole printing process - also how I softproof an image. I used Lightroom though, but finally it doesn't matter which software you use for your softproofing, as the principles are the same. If you are interested, here the link: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html
Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings,
Christian
Great sharing! Thanks! I just bought a P903 today!
Hi Liber, a fantastic choice. I hope you'll enjoy printing your images ;)
Nice greetings,
Christian
I admire your enthusiastic presentation. I'm similar you, in that self printing has pulled me through the full range of creating an image.... but at the end of the print I am still holding a piece of paper that I need to hand-off to a framer to finish for me. Therefore I have begun the process of learning how to mount, in various forms, the product for final presentation. Something to consider.
Hi Yukonica, thank you so much for your kind comment, my friend! Yes, I absolutely agree: the print is the final stage of a photograph. The digital image is just something like a - "positive", maybe 😊
Using a framer is a really important thing. There is nothing worse than shooting a photograph with gear that costs thousands, choosing the best possible paper to emphasize the image, and then to put it into a cheap "rubbish" frame from the discounter 😆
Have a great weekend, see you in the next one,
Christian
Just came across this video and your channel. Funnily enough I have been on the verge of getting a printer (this Epson or the Canon 1000 you mentioned) and I have had the exact same thoughts and doubts as you, along with the reservation that the printer has to be used just about daily to avoid automatic cleaning processes which consume a lot of ink, and I am not sure that I will be needing that quantity of prints. Yet, everything you say is true and I think finally your video is giving me that final push to get (probably) this Epson printer. And the excellent lab Printspace has been getting quite a bit more expensive, so time to take the plunge too. Thank you for the video and for your wise words and great enthusiasm, and I have now subscribed.
Hi @photonomist6345, thanks a lot for your kind comment, my friend. Yes, the cleaning process eats indeed a lot of ink, independent on the printer and brand. The question is just if it runs all 2-3 days or only when I start one manually 😊
A warm welcome to my channel and nice greetings,
Christian
Phantastisch, daß Du Deine tollen Fotos nun auch selber super drucken kannst! Herrlich!
Vielen Dank :)
Thank you for this nice video. I am encouraged to get this same printer. Digital is nice, the print is the final product. I have seen fantastic prints from this printer. Cheers from the northern California coast!
Hi Forrest, thank you for your kind comment, my friend! This printer is indeed a fantastic choice. I decided on it because of all the criterions I mentioned in the video. And now after 2 years of using, I have to say that I'm still more than happy with it :)
Have a great Sunday and enjoy printing,
Christian
Tranks a lot for sharing, very good overview! To understand you correctly, one of the most important criteria for your printer choice indeed was the design, having a printer to fit into your office surrounding? I am at the edge of decision for my first printer and understanding the choice of others is very valuable.
Glad you saw the light & chose such a great printer. I have its little brother, the SC-P700 and it's excellent. Fotospeed is a wonderful company who always give great service.
Hi Roger, thank you my friend!
Finally I would say, there came a few things together, that I saw the opportunity. But that's life :)
Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
i like honesty of yours. great work :)
Hi my friend, this is really kind of you, thanks a lot :)
Nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
Whoa!! Good looking office!! Good job there Christian!!
Hi Lokman, thank you my friend! I just changed my studio lighting. Really cool, that you recognized it :)
Thank you so much for watching and enjoy your Sunday,
Christian
My old Epson R2880 still does a great job. I print in speed mode and saves a lot of ink. You don't need level 5 in print mode it only uses a lot more ink. We as a human don't see more detail Quality above 300 - 350 dpi. I use Ilford Gallery Paper. The Hänemuhle paper i used a few months but it dissolves when the sun shines on it. I earned my printer back a thousend times. Printing as a professional means earning money. And i olso use the P900 now.
Hi Erik, thank you for sharing your experiences, my friend 🙂 Yes, I made the same experience according to printing resolution. There is a threshold of dpi where it doesn't make sense to go above. If you go higher, there gets just more ink onto the paper. I used Hahnemühle for many years and I was happy with it, I have to say. I didn't make an experience with dissovling paper. Either you got a batch of paper that had any mistake or I could also imagine that the dye ink of your Epson R2880 transformed when there was sunlight shining on for a while. The P900 is a pigment ink printer instead and so much more resistant against sunlight. Possible that a special paper/ink combinations don't work, especially for dye ink. But tell me if it was for the P900, would be interesting and then also which exact paper you used. I've also tried Ilford and some other brands, but I have to say, I'm quite happy with Fotospeed for some reasons, which is why I totally changed to that two and a half years ago.
Nice greetings,
Christian
Need to see your full setup studio tour
Hi Alternatif, oh - I think my studio is not the most spectacular in the world, there is not all too much more to see in my studio :)
But we will see, maybe I'll show a bit more in one of my next videos.
Thank you for watching and nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
Nice to see the process!
Thank you my friend :)
Great work here ! Keep killing it ! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
Hi Kyle, thank you so much my friend - happy you liked the video :)
Nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
Absolutamente Sincero, gracias!!
Hi Oliver, thanks a lot for your kind comment, my friend 😊
Happy New Year,
Christian
I will be buying this printer this year. I am not sure if you now, but fotospeed have a great youtube channel and do a lot of tutorials including one on hardproofing. :)
Hi my friend, In the moment it is a bit rarely to get, each distributor has just a few in stock. But I can highly recommend this printer.
Although I was in tight contact with Fotospeed over more weeks now, I didn't recognize that they have an own RUclips channel. So, thank you for the tip :)
Thank you so much for watching and enjoy your weekend,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Thank you. Yes even in the uk only a few dealers get regular stock of the P900 and then only 2 at a time. I am not looking to buy one until maybe the autumn, so hopefully by then things might start to get back to normal with electronic supplies. Fotospeed also have a printing and tips group on facebook too. :)
Thanks. I will watch that now I know it's been recommended so highly. Is it better to start with epson papers or go straight to photospeed in your opinion?
@@mchjubjub6915 Paper is generally a big difference. My opinion: We invest lots of money into our camera, lenses and filters - we are grateful how our gear can manage all the megapixels. So it were a shame to print it on low quality paper.
On my experience, the paper that is produced from the printer manufacturers offers not the properties like the paper from premium paper manufacturers.
Which properties are most interesting for paper? 1) Matte, glossy, semi gloss 2) Dmax: This value tells how much details do you see in the shadows, 3) Colour Gamut: This is how many different colours the paper can hold, depends on surface and colour of the paper, 4) Texture: It depends on the style which fits better to your photo - and on the taste of the photographer of course.
Hahnemühle offers fantastic paper, but as mentioned in the video: Fotospeed offers custom profiles - free of charge, what makes really a big difference.
I can't tell you if you should go with Fotospeed, I just can recommend it as a good company with high quality paper for a good price.
I hope this helps :)
Great review, thanks!
Hi Alain, thanks a lot for your kind feedback. Really fantastic that it was useful for you. For the case that you'd decide for the Epson P900, I wish you all the best with your new printer!
Nice greetings,
Christian
WOW! What a great idea - selling one of your photographs as a PRINT! Brilliant concept!
Hi @dummatube, many photographers are doing it that way. But thank you 😊
Nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler “Whoosh!” 🤣🤣🤣
I made the same decision some years back with an Epson 4900 - and I don‘t even sell prints. The ink in these printers lasts really long, but nozzle clogging and waste ink tor cleaning is a real issue, if you don‘t print regularly (every few daays). Looking back I would say that printing, next to buying my own lights and flashes, led to jumps in my photography.
Hi Jan, yes, nozzle clogging is definitely an issue, when you don't print on a regular basis. Best thing is to print all the time. But uf there don't come in enough new photographs, you could work at least at older photographs, when you don't sell prints.
It is also an issue for me, when I'm traveling for 1-2 weeks and not at home. But I'm happy, that Epson doesn't do nozzle cleaning all few days to eat all the ink. It's okay to print at least once a week, to get rid of nozzle clogging. So I come away with stressful weeks where I can't print or when I'm traveling.
I totally agree - printing improves your photography.
Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings,
Christian
Thank you Christian,
For a year now I have been indecisive about which printer to get. Like you say there did not seem to be a printer in use that didnt have some issues I.e. changing the black cartridge on one model etc.
Maximum size of A3 or a3 + was the limit and even 40 years ago I was printing huge images in darkrooms I used so I wanted A2.
Epson 900 seemed the way to go but still wasnt sure even after watching jtoolman and northlight images who are both fantastic by the way. Until I saw your setup. I only watched initially thinking it would be a lab versus print your own review. You talked about your landscape photography which was really interesting and how you worked out the costs etc which I did and really enjoying your talk, you went on to talk about the very printer I nearly bought but wasnt sure about. I have used epson for years but wanted either a canon 300 or epson 900. How delighted was I to see you mention the resolution, ink issues, and comparison to canon pro1000 where you admit that it is a little better but you turn colours down effectively making the epson a sensible choice.
I like your approach and have subscribed now😀
Heres hoping you'll be as fit soon as you were before.
Thank you very much 👍
Hi my friend, thank you so much for watching and a warm welcome to my channel!
The colour space on the green and blue side is just slightly better on the Canon pro, I guess you would not really recognize it on a print with lots of blues and green on it. It is more like a comparision of two cameras, the one with 60MP, the other with 61 :)
The photo of my today's video contains lots of greens and I printed it on a Baryta, what looks just fantastic.
I think low ink consumation and handy design were finally the key features for me on the Epson P900. How much ink it finally really consumes I will see in some months. What's definitely positive here is, that it doesn't do an automatical cleaning process all 2-3 days like other models.
Have a great weekend and nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Christian. The information you passed on initially is why I purchased this printer. The swapping cartridge and waste issues prevented me from the investment but I felt I had to comment again now that I have purchased the printer.
I hope you are improving in health and wish you all the best👍
Really interesting journey. l get so much pleasure from printing, but it is such an expensive business. I've just printed some off for a camera club competition, and even then printed a couple of smaller versions to check I was happy before going large (A3). I do love that I can try a few different settings before I make the final print. I have had a Canon Pro 1 for about 5 years now. At that time Epsons did the ink switching that put me off. This looks like a great printer.
Hi Bassbarbie, yes, it definitely leads to costs, but I would not like to miss my best photos printed on fine art paper :)
I observed the printers the years before I bought this one and as you have said, the previous model had some properties I was not happy about. The P900 is indeed a great printer now.
Thanks a lot for watching, my friend. Enjoy your weekend,
Christian
Really enjoyed the video and seeing your printing process, and I also like your setup👍👍
Hy Oyun, thank you my friend! I showed just a tiny part of my process, but there will come an own video about my entire printing process. Cool that you recognized the changes in my studio lighting. I needed the light to be a bit more neutral, to get the prints shown in right colours :)
Thank you for watching and nice greetings,
Christian
i came for the printer review and started wondering what camera you using to record this crisp and clean video im in love
also do you have a video for entry level computer may it be a laptop or desktop for video photo editing
Hi @TheKweenOfKings, thanks a lot :) I use my Sony A6500 as my main indoor film camera with my Sony GM 16-35 f2.8 lens.
For photo editing you don't need a special computer, when we are talking about entry level. For video I would say any computer with SSD, 16GB memory minimum and a strong graphic card, if you don't want to wait hours for rendering a 15 minutes video :) The strong graphic card will also help you to get your photo editing software running faster.
For traveling I use a powerful laptop. But there is a really big potential to safe money, in my experience. I think to remember that I mentioned the laptop I currently use in my video about how I changed my lifestyle for having more time for photography: ruclips.net/video/ZUIMrVeShA8/видео.html But I'm not sure how much I went into detail there according to the laptop. I hope it anyway helps :)
Nice greetings,
Christian
Printing is a big fun, this review is so on the surface.
Hi my friend, thank you for your comment! This video was not meant as entire review, I just wanted to give insights about why I decided for this particular printer - the Epson SC-P900. This channel is not a tech channel, I focus more on the art of photography here, whilst I bring in also some technical topics of course, from time to time.
And yes, so true - printing is a big fun :)
Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
Klingt sehr überzeugend, damit eine gute Entscheidung. BTW: dein Bild - und besonders das Licht- von der IM Hütte ist phänomenal. Da hast du ein super Gap der Wolken über den Kalkspitzen am NM. erwischt. Eine geniale Gegend dort 🤗🤗 LG Klaus
Hallo Klaus, vielen Dank! Jetzt im Nachheinein betrachtet war der Drucker eigentlich sogar fast eine logische Entscheidung, und immerhin mehr als reiflich überlegt :) Ja, die Giglachseen sind eine absolute Traumgegend. Dass das Licht so auf die Hütte gefallen ist, war ehrlich gesagt pures Glück.
Ich hoffe, dass mir mein Knie heuer erlaubt wieder zu Touren wie dieser zu gehen. Die ganze Gegend da oben steht eigentlich jedes Jahr fest auf dem Plan...
Ein schönes Wochenende wünsch ich dir aus dem Salzkammergut,
Christian
@@christian.irmler und irgendwann werden wir uns beide schrecken, wenn wir zur gleicher Zeit da oben herumpirschen. HaHaHa
The best photo printers you can buy right now are the Canon PRO-200 (lower up front cost, low running costs, modest ink costs per mL, dye-based, 13" wide) and the Epson P900 (high up front cost, low/modest running costs, low ink cost per mL, pigment based, 17" wide). I have the Canon PRO-200 and am very impressed by it, it is truly excellent for color. The Canon PRO-300 and Epson P700 don't make sense to get (just buy the Epson P900 it is cheaper long term due to ink cost per mL OEM and is a more capable printer), and the Canon PRO-1000 is too old and uses way to much ink for cleaning cycles.
Hi my friend, really great to hear that you found a printer, that works well for you! I think it is not really possible to compare these two. The PRO-200 is an A3+ printer with dye ink, the P900 is an A2 printer with pigment ink. I sell prints in A3 and A2, so I need the possibility to print A2. And as I don't know where my clients hang their prints up on their walls and which light situation they have there, I also need a quite high light stability, that is given with pigment ink. But it is as everywhere: The right product is that, that covers especially your requirements :)
I'm happy with the P900, it fulfills everything I need and the print quality is absolutely amazing.
Thanks a lot for your comment and nice greetings,
Christian
Gut gemacht. Vielen Dank. Beste Wünsche aus den USA.
Hallo und vielen Dank - freut mich echt sehr, dass dir mein Video gefallen hat :)
Schöne Grüße aus den Bergen Österreichs,
Christian
Thank you a lot for the video! I am looking for an A2 size photo printer... Now I think Epson P900 is a good choice!
Hi @tripsefotos, yes, I can absolutely recommend the P900 for A2 size printing. It's simply good in every point.
Have fun with printing ;)
Nice greetings,
Christian
if you are taking photo, do the editing, then soft proofing and you are getting something else when printed, then I think you should carefully check your process. just bought Epson 900 and I love it, but if you were getting something different on a paper and you are saying that "well paper is different" then you must be doing something wrong. either you don't calibrate before editing, or you don't use the correct lights in your office/work area, then if your process is perfect, then your lab is terrible. you don't spend thousands on the equipment to have a print differences compared to what you have seen on the screen. simple like that
Hi Edmunek, thank you for your thoughts and congratulations to your new printer - that was definitely a good choice :)
Basically there is a difference in how we perceive an image on a screen and how we perceive it on paper. Reason therefor is simply, that the way of how light comes from a screen, with backlit pixles, is different to how it comes in form from reflected light from a paper. On softproofing (and we need to calibrate our monitor first, of course) there is simulated the appearance of all the colours and also the contrast of different luminance levels though. It is simulated quite well, but it anyway doesn't look exactly equally than it does finally on paper.
There are even big differences between different sorts of papers. There is no way to simulate gloss or texture on a screen, for instance. Especially for an artistry photograph on fine art paper, there is given more micro contrasts suddenly on different areas, due to a different amount of texture in the brighter areas. On very high textured papers you could even intentionally overexpose on selected areas in your composition, to get even more texture out. This all ends up, that it could have an impact to the balance and even to the flow of my composition, what I was simply not able to consider on the monitor before.
On papers with a lower Dmax, like it is on my preferred cotton fine art papers, for instance, I also have to finetune especially for the contrasts in the shadows. It is simulated on the screen though, and this gives already a really good sense of how it will come out finally from the printer - but to get it really nailed (and I'm quite picky here), I have to finetune it - and this means, that I print, check, print again - as long as it takes that the image works. And the more texture, the lower the Dmax, the longer this usually takes.
In this video here I show my entire printing process, where I mention even more details: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html
Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
Nice prints!
Thank you so much, this means a lot :)
Nice greetings,
Christian
I got a high end epson photo printer from a friend who was a pro photographer who retired recently super high end and im excited to start printing myself vs going to a lab for 5x the cost
Hi PilsPlease, that sounds fantastic. Enjoy printing, my friend!
Cool nick, by the way :)
See you,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Im excited to print a few images I took years ago that I didnt want to pay a lab to print. Only downside is ink is expensive and each single print will be like $8 in ink cost so I will have to learn to be careful with printing.
In terms of ink-only costs, can we estimate that a color print in A4 size (about 20x30cm / 8x11") costs a maximum of 1.5 Euros?
Hi Carlos, before I bought the printer, I calculated the printing costs, based on the specification sheet of the printer and the sort of papers I wanted to use. If we'd consider just the ink, I have calculated 1.56 Euro for A4, 3.12 for A3 and 6.23 for A2. But after a usage for over a half year now, I have to say that it depends totally on the paper and the quality you print. It doesn't make sense to print with maximum dpi, if the paper doesn't take more, for instance. I think you can safe even 30-40% with the right settings (rough estimation). I made already a video about "Hot to get better prints", where I show my entire printing process, also my softproofing and which settings I use for my fine art paper. There is also a tip included how to safe paper, what is much more expensive than ink :) Here the video link: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html
I hope this helps. Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Thank you so much for your in depth reply.
Greetings from Portugal.
@@christian.irmler Does the P-900 uses lots of ink (head cleaning?) every time it is switched on? For example, if it's to be used once a week to print several prints...
Thanks!
@@carlosdias2403 Hi Carlos, I usually print multiple times a week, but I've heard already from other photographers, that it doesn't eat as much ink when printing just once a week, as the Canon Pro 1.000, for instance - which starts automatically cleaning processes all 2-3 days. The Epson P900 doesn't do automatic cleaning processes at all. You have to care about cleaning by yourself. This is good for ink safing, but if you don't print for more than a week, I would start a cleaning process manually. All in all, it is a quite ink safing printer, I have to say.
I hope this helps - nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Thank you so much. I was afraid it would start the cleaning process every time it's switched on. Great!
I thought about the same and bought the Epson SC-P900. Unfortunately, this printer didn't function from the start. Three repair attempts without success. Finally I got a new printer as a replacement in March 2022. And still the same problem with borderless printing. The business support center of Epson asked me for a test print and the print head got burned (error 031006). The end of the story: Epson told me, that my printer is out of warranty and I have to care of the repair costs by my own .... two years of endless emails ...two years of packaging and returning this huge printer .. two years of frustration. Enough is enough. This case will be handled by a lawyer and I will advise my IT department to stop buying Epson printers.
Hi Alexander, I'm so sorry that you had issues with your printer! I never print borderloss, to be honest, so I didn't face any problems here. But independent of the printer, I have to say: Borderless printing leads generally to a higher wearing of the printing head, as it has to go over the edges all the time. There goes also always a bit of ink on the rolls, so that also the rolls lose their grip much earlier. In my opinion, it is generally better to print with a small border and to use a cutter afterwards.
Generally, it doesn't matter what you buy, there is always the risk that you get a broken product. Important is that it gets repaired or replaced then. That Epson ignores that you reported the issue already sounds strange. I in your case, would write a final email with a summary of the whole issue for hands of the management, because I can't believe that they don't offer a solution. Bigger companies need often stiffer structures. I would not rate an entire company just after a maybe wrong decision of a first level supporter or so.
However, I cross my fingers for you that you'll get a soon solution.
Thank you for watching and nice greetings,
Christian
yep...learning curve is important...keep fresh mate,
Hi Michael, yes, absolutely important. Quite amazing is how much of impact printing has had on my photographic improvement. I don't want to miss my own printer anymore, to be honest 😊
Nice greetings,
Christian
Thank you for very informative (as usual) video.
I totally agree about images on screen and prints being a completely different experience. Just recently, I ordered a bunch of print from a lab and 2 pictures stood out: one of them looked kind of boring on screen, but I decided to print it anyway and it looks amazing in print. Another one is exact opposite: I was quite with it on screen, but on print all small flaws became really obvious and finally added up, resulting in pretty "meh" image. I guess, attention we pay when looking to the printed image is way higher then that of a purely digital image.
Also, it would be really interesting to see your Lightroom workflow, from RAW file to the ready to print image.
Hi Sergey, thank you so much, really happy that my videos are useful for you!
Yes, I also think, that viewers engage deeper with a print than with a digital image. Maybe the reason is, because the digital world is too fast - one click and the image is gone, but a print doesn't "run" away :)
But there is also a big difference between the mediums - screen and paper. It even looks a bit more after art when its printed :) I totally love fine art prints.
Showing my entire processing flow for priting sounds after a good idea. Thank you for the input, that is so important for me. There will come a video about that in future :)
Have a great weekend and nice greetings,
Christian
Hi …thank you for a no fuss explanation . Fully agree. When you were soft proofing for the lab am I correct in thinking the lab provided you with an ICC file for the paper you were going to use on “their”printer …their profile ?
Hi Eddie, yes that's right. You can download icc profiles for the different sorts of paper from the website of the lab.
This video could also be useful, it is all about getting better prints. I also explain the profiling and soft proofing a bit better: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html
I hope this helps :) Nice greetings,
Christian
I feel like this fine tuning is most important with challenging papers like canvas
Hi Ben, oh yes - fine tuning is really one of the key elements to get out better results, but independent to the paper. Each paper has different Dmax and colour gamut and so another behaviour. Actually fine tuning is not only important on printing, but already on the composition out in the field. Good photographers might be good fine tuners in all layers of photography :-)
Thank you so much for watching, nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
Great job this has given me. Lot to think about. I have so many questions, a few being. When you mentioned selling 5 or more prints a month to make it worth it. At what price would you sell the print for and about what is the cost to produce each print? Next if I am not printing every week will my ink dry out? And lastly about how much is the cost of ink and how many prints can you get from one full ink set? Thank you so much.
Hi Kristen, thank you for your kind feedback 😊
Those 5 prints a week was my personal idea back then, but as mentioned in the video: it's a bad idea, I would not calculate with that. It is not all about saving money by printing yourself. In the beginning, I invested even more money than before when I printed over a lab, because I did much more hard proofing to get out a better quality. In the beginning I needed even more hard proofing, till I understood how to softproof my images already in front so that I don't need to hard proof with all too many attempts. Of course, you will come to a point, when it becomes cheaper again compared with a lab, which is given by the number of orders you get. But again: I would not decide on a printer for economy reasons, I would do that if you want to improve your prints and your photography as well! The more you print, the more you understand how to take a photograph out in the field, to get it in the best possible way onto the paper. I think even about paper choice when I'm working on a composition out in the field 😊
The ink will not dry out immediately. It is more that you have to be careful that the print head doesn't dry out. I think, if you print at least 1 print all 14 days, you are fine. Recommended is 1 a week, but I know photographers who print all 14 days and that works for them. If you go over these 14 days from time to time, it should also not be a problem. I also went above that already when I was out for a longer trip. But in that case, I start a cleaning process, just to get sure that everything works as it should before I go on printing big.
The ink prices always change. Have a look at different shops, there are some differences in the prices. But always use original ink! How many prints you can print is difficult to say, that completely depends on the resolution you are printing, the paper, and the colours on your prints. The single colours will not get empty at the same time.
I just can say that this printer is really ink saving, compared to others, especially when you don't print much. Others start a cleaning process all 2-3 days, which costs tons of ink :) This one doesn't do that, but you have to do that yourself when you don't print for a longer period, as mentioned above.
I hope that helps 😉
Nice greetings,
Christian
I will get the P900 in a few years for Woodland photos to learn the last stage of photography
Hi Thomas, this printer is indeed amazing. I can really highly recommend :)
Nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler I can recommend Keith Cooper he talk me into getting the P900. I could never get the printer service to work as I intended, so I need my own printer after I retire in 3 years time. Uwww.youtube.com/@KeithCooper
How has this printer been 2 years later? I've read reviews that it doesn't last long. I hope it's still working well for you.
Hi Alex, thank you for your question! After two and a half years of using the P900 I'm still quite excited about it. It still works and I have to say that I print quite a lot 😊
I've also heard some users complaining, but in most cases it was just wrong usage. Get sure to print at least once all 2 weeks and always use original ink, then you'll be happy with this printer.
I hope this helps 😉
Nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler thank you so much for the reply! Everyone I see on RUclips just reviewed this printer when it came out and probably got it for free ;) I'm actually still using my Epson 3880 and loving it! This printer seems amazing. However, if I update, I might go with the Canon Pro-1000 as it has chrome optizmer ink which helps for glossy prints to avoid bronzing. Unfortunely Epson printer seem to lack this option. We'll see though. This pretty certainly looks sexy, ha! thanks again for the reply
Accurate colour is less important than pleasing colour. if it looks good to you thats whats most important
Hi Exocomp, we have to be careful here about how we define "accurate color". As you can see in my other videos, I love fine art photography and I'm not all too much interested in reality :) So, if we mean colors from reality by accurate color, I see it like you. I shift colors slightly, change the saturation of several colors, even the luminance. And I put a lot of effort into all that for a single photo. So, it is quite important for me that the printer prints the colors then as close to that as my monitor shows them. Or short: I want to be that one who decides for the colors, not my printer :)
Color is quite important in fine art photography, as it allows also to change the mood of an image. There will come an own video just about color here on my channel. But give me some time therefore, it is an important topic for me and I want to get the video as useful as possible.
Thanks a lot for your comment and nice greetings,
Christian
I too love the SC-P900, it's one of the finest aqueous pigment inkjet printers on the market.
Hi Marc, definitely - the P900 is such a fantastic fine art printer, I'm also totally happy with it and I would not want to miss it :)
Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
Great video!!! Could you tell me the cost of each A4 print? Thank you very much
Hi Giancarlo, it depends on the quality you are printing and on my calculation it is anything in a range of around 1,50 to 2,50 Euro for one A4 print. Generally the P900 is quite ink saving. No automatic cleaning processes all 2-3 days, that empty your ink, like it is for other printers. I hope this helps :)
Nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Thank you very much!!!👍👍👍👍
I wonder if the soft proofing takes care, at all, of the "super-bright" anomalous colour difference between light with UV and without...just one more issue about fine tuning...
Generally, it is a good idea to have a quite equally stable environment light in the room you process your images. I think, using a labor would be already a little bit of overkill :) The final product for me is anyway the print itself. And therefore I use a quite stable light source. We should also not forget that the experience of colors is anyway a bit subjective for every viewer and it is also a difference where you hang up the image, finally. How does the interior look there? How bright/dark is the room? Which other images hang there? :) I don't want to do pixel and color cosmetics. Important for me in the end is that the image conveys the mood I want to convey :)
Would you also create a video talking about the post processing for printing?
Hi Enes, this is a fantastic idea. There will come an own video about my entire printing process on my channel. But please give me some time therefor, as I'm still tweaking a bit around due to my new printer.
The base process is the same as before when I was printing over a lab, but I want to optimize my new process before I'll give advice here. You know - first of all I have to learn how to run, before I'll teach how to fly ;)
But definitely yes - video will come in some time.
Enjoy your Sunday and nice greetings,
Christian
What about the Epson Photo EcoTank ET-8550? Ink cost are less. I use ET-2851 with only 4 colours and photo prints look good. It has limit color gamut compared with real photo printers but with the help of profiles print look good to me ;). Soft proofing with good ICC profiles are essential to make prints look better.
Hi Hans, there are lots of different printers out there. I haven't tested that one, to be honest. But as I can see, it supports pigment ink though, but just 6 different colours, what will limit the colour gamut. This is usually really a big difference. The P900 uses 10 different tanks. And then it is just an A3 printer. The P900 supports up to A2 and with the optional paper role device, you can even print long panos.
All in all it looks more like an office printer to print documents. If this is important for you also to use it therefore, you can consider this as well, when you just print for yourself. I have a laser printer beside my P900, where I just print office documents. Photographs are just printed with my P900. The accurancy of the P900's paper feed is quite good, by the way. This is usually not the best at cheaper office printers. If you want to go for the et-8550, I would recommend to research after how good the print head is and if it is prone for clogging. If you don't need A2 and you want to get massively better quality than currently with your ET-2851, I would recommend to have at least a look at the P700. It is exactly the same as the P900, just smaller up to A3+ and without paper role possibility. It's the smaller brother and I think also the ink is a little bit cheaper for this one.
It always depends on the quality you need/want. The quality of the ET-2851 is already good enough for you, as you've said. The P900 will definitely perform better. Ink is more expensive. But what is important for you? For me it was quality and reliability in the device. I personally don't want to get cheap prints, I want to get fantastic quality. But it is a question of preferences, for sure :)
I hope this helps and I'm sure you will find the ideal solution, especially for your needs,
Christian
Can somebody tell me the cost per prints?
Hi Lukas, it depends on the chosen paper and the printing resolution. I made a calculation, once for the P900, based on my settings. Check the other comments, I answered that already. I hope this helps :)
Nice greetings,
Christian
Woah! Interesting stuff Christian :) thanks for sharing your experience 😁 it seems extra fulfilling to control all steps of the process now!
Hi Jonathan, thanks a lot my friend! Fulfillment, exactly - and the funny thing is: Before I started printing by myself, I thought a lab would deliver better prints than printing with an own printer, because they do this every day in high numbers and have a better printer. It is true, that they have more expensive printers, but they never processed the image for me before printing, haha :)
Thank you so much for watching and enjoy your weekend,
Christian
Thanks!
I thank YOU for watching, Matt 😉
Nice greetings,
Christian
Hey Christina,
Finde es echt cool das du dir jetzt auch einen eigenen Printer zulegt hast, und wie du es sagst: Bilder selbst zu drucken eröffnet einem eine ganz neue Sicht auf die eigene Arbeit und hilft einem dabei wieder Schritte nach vorn zu schaffen.
Bei mir ist es oft mals schon wenn ich ein Bild schieße das ich dann schon überle welche Art von Papier dieses Wert am besten zur Geltung bringt.👌
Hab schon oft nach Fotospeed Papier gesucht aber nie wirklich gefunden, Bestellst du es direkt bei denen?
Wünsch dir einen schönen Feiertag und ein schönes Wochenende
Gruß. Stefan 😁
Hallo Stefan, vielen Dank! Das von dir beschrieben Verhalten, on location zu überlegen wie der Druck dann aussieht, hatte ich mir im Laufe der Zeit eigentlich auch angewöhnt gehabt, allerdings hat ganz einfach das Finetuning im Softproofing Prozess gefehlt, das ich völlig unterschätzt habe :)
Das Fotospeed Papier hab ich - nach langem Suchen - von einem Händler aus Deutschland bestellt: www.fine-art-papiere.de/fotospeed-267/
Ein sehr freundlicher Händler, hat mich sehr gut beraten, kann ich echt empfehlen - es gibt auch Testpackungen um die unterschiedlichen Papiere auszuprobieren. Und der Support von Fotospeed hat mich übrigens auch positiv überrascht. Aber dazu gibt es vielleicht noch ein eigenes Video :)
Einen schönen Feiertag wünsch ich dir,
Christian
It would be nice to print a little larger than 17 inches wide at 5760 x 1440 dpi.
Is there a printer that can print 20 22 or 24 inches wide at 5760 x 1440 dpi?
Hi, the P900 can print up to Din A2, which is 16.5in x 23.4 inches. Additional to that you can use a paper role to print even bigger at the longer side. So, you can prin quite big with this printer :) I hope this helps.
Nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler thank you
I just bought the p700 so far, very good. Going to take a while to figure out how to always or almost always get the best prints. Priner Ink for this printer is very pricey. I hear ink for this printer is 1/2 piinter ink to 1/2 pint of human blood is the ink is over twice as expensive.compared to human blood. So now I've decided to print using only A .B and O negative. I hope I don't bleed out to quickly.....:-))
Hi @Mr.HotRod, Congrats to your P700. It is the same as the P900, actually, just the little brother. But I have no idea how expensive human blood is, to be honest :)
I wish you all the best with your printer. Here a video about how to get better prints: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html
I hope this helps. Nice greetings,
Christian
Hi! Druckst du immer direkt in der epson Software oder wie ist es dein Prozess, sobald du ein Bild bearbeitet hast? Arbeitest du mit Profilen je nach Papierart? War heute auf einer Messe und dann habe ich den p900 entdeckt. Sah vielversprechend aus :)
Hallo Mati, ich bevorzuge es direkt aus Lightroom zu drucken, weil ich damit meinen kompletten Druckprozess besser abbilden kann. Inzwischen drucke ich doch relativ viel und das spart mir eine Menge Arbeit. Profile sind absolut notwendig, ich verwende hier sogar individualisierte, selbst das ist ein merkbarer Unterschied. Etwas mehr über meinen Druckprozess und was ich sonst noch alles mache um bessere Prints zu bekommen, findest du in meinem Video "How to IMPROVE Your Printing": ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html
Ich hoffe das hilft. Den P900 kann ich übrigens wirklich sehr empfehlen. Die Pro's hab ich ja schon im Video erwähnt.
Schöne Grüße und bis demnächst ;)
Christian
Printing off an epson isn’t as expensive as printing in a darkroom.
Do that for a few years and you will feel blessed you have a printer
Hi Nicholas, yes definitely. Analogue photogaphy was generally more expensive. Each click out in the field occured already costs and we had to think twice if we really wanted to take the shot :)
Thanks a lot for your comment and nice greetings,
Christian
hello master, could you tell me how many impressions it would make under normal conditions throughout the useful time of the p900 printer, and the maintenance box says to give 50 000 pages ,but it must not be true, you change the maintenance box by doing how many prints, I know that this varies depending on the A4, A3 or A2 size and if it is borderless worse, but an average, would you know how to clear my doubts, thank you...
Hi Paulo, that's really, really difficult to say, as it totally depends on the number of cleaning processes you need. I print multiple times a week and so I don't need all too many cleaning processes. I guess, when printing less often, you will need even more often to change the maintenance box. I think, how often you have to change a box will reach from 2 times a year up to once all 2 years. This is just an estimation, I don't know it exactly. If you print not much, I would recommend to print at least once a week or once all two weeks, so that you come away with a low number of cleaning processes, to save ink. As the maintenance box is not all too expensive, this is a totally secundary thing for me, it is more about the ink consumtion. But I have to say, that is also quite low for the P900, unless you have to do a lot of cleaning processes.
I hope this helps, Merry Christmas,
Christian
Hello sir, thanks for such valuable information.❤
I am looking for big size printer ( between 24" to 36", also should print on sheet as well as on roll)
The running cost should not be too much. I looking into Epson because here Epson ink is available easily in compare to canon. My aim is to print art on canvas, matt, satin and luster. paper. Please suggest me some Epson printer. Thanks 🙏
Hi Santosh, thank you for your question, my friend! The Epson P900 can print just up to Din A2, which is around 16 to 23 inches, but there is an option to use paper roll to print larger. In that case you have still around 16 inches on the short side and the large side is up to the length of the paper roll, which is big.
If you want to print even bigger, you'll need a large format printer. I have to admit, I never engaged with printers that can print bigger than the Epson P900, as I don't need that all too often. You will have to research yourself here in that case. I can just recommend to look at the same things I looked at for the Epson P900, which I mentioned in this video.
I cross my fingers for you that you'll find the ideal printer for you. Let me know, as soon as you have found it. Would really be interesting 😉
Nice greetings,
Christian
Danke für‘s Teilen deiner Erfahrungen, Christian! Ich bin noch in der Phase, dass ich „drucken lasse“... alles andere wäre noch total unrentabel 😉
Hab ein tolles Wochenende und liebe Grüße aus München 🤗
Hallo Chris, vielen Dank für's Schauen!
"unrentabel" - so hab ich früher auch gedacht :)
Wenn man natürlich nur sehr, sehr selten was drucken will und das Drucken in keinster Weise im Vordergrund steht (Fine Art Fotografie), dann ist ein Labor natürlich die bessere Wahl und da ist es auch gut, dass es welche gibt. So oder so, es ist schon schön ein eigenes Foto gedruckt in Händen zu halten :)
Ein schönes Wochenende auch dir aus dem Salzkammergut,
Christian
Hei Christian, so you mean that the printer doesnt need clean its selv using ink ? so does means that the printer doesnt need to be stand by all the time? . I thinking in buying. this printer for artwall digital printing and offer to my custumers the prints for 50 usd a piece for A2s. Its this the right printer for the job? How many prints i can do before i must by new ink? thanks so much for your help.
Hi @bryllupsfotofilm, yes right. It doesn't do automatic cleaning processing all 2-3 days as other printer are used to do. And that saves really tons of ink 🙂
You just should get sure to print once a week, or at least once all 10-14 days. If that is not possible you should start a cleaning process manually. You don't need to turn it off, you can keep it in standby, it doesn't consume lots of power.
And yes, the printer is fantastic for selling prints. I do the same, actually 😊
The number of prints is impossible to tell. It totally depends on your photos, which colours get used how often, it depends on the saturation of the images, the paper, and the resolution. And when ink goes do its end it is not that I replace all inks together, I just replace that single one that got empty. And the printer empties it really completely. The catridge is dry afterwards. It is really extremely ink saving, I have to say.
It's a good printer. And that said, I'm not sponsored. I also bought the printer and also the ink with my own money.
I hope that helps. Enjoy printing,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Thanks Crhistian, just 2 q: So can i turn off the printer whitout a problem? or has to be standby?. To sell A2s digital art online..which paper should i use (affordable) ? thanks a lot
@@bryllupsfotofilm Yes, you can turn it off as it anyway doesn't make an automatic cleaning process. To you paper question: I was always interested in the "best possible" paper. Rather paying a tiny bit more for the paper, but getting better quality. Hahnemühle paper was my number one choice for multiple years and offers quite high quality. But meanwhile I switched over to Fotospeed paper as they offer custome profiling free of charge. The quality is fantastic and also the price is okay.
I hope that helps. Nice greetings,
Christian
Really thorough journey through your thought process and conclusions. There is definitely a satisfaction in creating the final product. Excellent presentation about this Epson printer. Thanks for putting this together.
Hi James, thank you so much my friend - really happy that you liked the video!
Yes, there is satisfaction. Meanwhile I enjoy also the printing process itself :)
Have a great weekend an nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
keep in mind that after the print head is dead later (and it WILL die because off the piezo elements which build the nozzles), you have to buy a new printer... please calculate that in the print costs, not only ink and paper. Also a calculation on per print base is very fuzzy because not every print out of the printer is perfect as you get it from a good lab. And if you take it seriously you have to recalibrate the printer after replacing colors from time to time. A good lab does this periodically some times a years for every paper when the colors shifts. We produce digital proofs and fineArt prints so I think I know what I am talking about.
Hi my friend, every hardware will die earlier or later, of course. I have already invested much much more into paper and ink than the price of a printer. When the day will come that I have to buy a new one or I have to pay for maintenance, the costs therefore are a minor value for me. There is nothing wrong with printing over a lab. Depending on the lab you can get fantastic quality, as well. I even suggest beginners to start with a lab to get into touch.. But for me I see the big advantage of getting feedback immediately after printing. This is simply not possible with printing over a lab. My finetuning process is much better today and ultimately my prints are better. I still use labs for super large formats. Labs are good!
Thanks a lot for your contribution and nice greetings,
Christian
Don't worry, Piezzo print heads are made to last for a very long time, compared to the bubble jet technology. I own a couple of Epson 3880 printers, one with a page count of over 17.000 prints and still no issues. Also calibrating every now and then does not really make sense, apart from doing it after EVERY ink replacement or when opening a new paper role. You have to trust your suppliers and the cosistency of their products, thats why you buy from companies that guarantee constant QA.
Just a reminder that you need a new cutom ICC profile when you get papers from a new batch number as well.
Hi my friend, thanks a lot for your friendly addition :)
I personally don't consider this to be honest and I never saw a big difference here. On my experience the more quality paper manufacturers have also more stability in their papers. But it were definitely interesting to hear the opinion of a paper manufacturer here. I'll connect to my contact from a paper manufacturer and maybe I'll mention the result in one of my next videos. I'm just not sure how fast I'll get an answer now, in the last week before Christmas :) We will see.
However, thank you meanwhile!
Nice greetings,
Christian
Good morning Christian! Interesting topic :-) I worked with light and colour, professionally, for some years, in a different 'space', but...it's literally impossible to change the fact that emitted colour is only the same as reflected colour in a very, very narrow range of situations... any tiny change in the illuminant spectrum can cause subtle, or not-so-subtle, changes in the image...the UV response of the paper is a big one, as any fluorescent properties are blocked by the ink pigments, so tjat the 'white' reflectance apparently changes, losing a bit of the 'excess blue' in the whitener, just one example, but the spectral response of the pigments can also vary a lot with different illuminants...sigh...
Hi Lohi, thank you for your explanation, what really adds to this video!
I'm quite happy with my Spider Elite to calibrate my screen and it ends up in usable results, but of course: The ambient light is definitely a big difference. There are even differences between inks. The amount of changes in different light situations is different for instance, if you use dye ink or pigment ink - although pigment ink seems to be a bit more light stable in my experience. But I'm not an expert in these printing things, to be honest. I'm just a user who recognizes things while using :)
All in all I have to say, I'm really happy about the colours, which I get out finally. What I found out already is, that it is a good idea, to have the prints a few days on the table and always look on them - in different light situations. After some days I have more idea what to change.
Have a great weekend,
Christian
@@christian.irmler thanks, sir...interesting thing, the dye inks allow the paper to 'show through somewhat morem since they are not composed ofnsolid particles, like pigment inks...good call! At my previous job, the designers woukd have some colour patch they eantednto jsem and wanted an LED to match that colour! My wuestion then was "under what lighting? " ;-) today, with a properly calibrated rgb LED, i might be able to make it shif colour to match lighting conditions...to some extent. Metamerism, that's the word that i was trying to remember, the difference in apparent colour for objects under different lighting spectra! It's a big deal in pigment-based colours.
And, for you, also, a nice weekend?!
Do you do a special editing to the pictures you print (increase a bit the exposure for example) or just print your edited files?
Hi Ersin, a good question: Yes, I do this process of softproofing, that I mentioned in the video. Adjusting the exposure in blacks, shadows, highlights and white is an important part here - especially because the "dynamic range" on a paper is different than on a screen. There will come an own video on my channel, about all the processes before printing in future, for sure :)
Thank you so much for watching an have a great Sunday,
Christian
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Uhg. Hurts to think about $400 usd per cartridge set! I almost wonder if there is a better option. It would be wonderful to see a tank version of a p900! Also, is it your customers being concerned with the fine tone adjustments, or is it more you seeking perfection? I find that in design, I am always the biggest critic. My clients are usually clueless about the details I lost sleep over. Then you have to consider the differences between four ink/tank machines vs 8 or more ink/tank printers which cost far more to keep up and refill. Might be a happy medium for a part time hobby/business to go tank printer, and use lab for special projects.
Loved tgw video though. Best wishes in your ventures. P900 on my radar, but I only printer interior 3d render concepts. 8550 is hard to pass up. Next year will look at 24" width printers.
Hi my friend, we should be careful here what we are comparing. The main reason why I didn't buy another printer the years before was the ink consumption. I started to engage with the P900 actually, because of lower ink costs :)
We have to understand: there is a big difference between dyi ink and pigment ink. Pigment ink is light stable and doesn't change with time when you use the right paper. The P900 uses pigment ink. And when we want to compare the P900 with other pigment ink printers now, I have to say that the P900 is on the cheapest side. Don't compare cartridges by cartridges. Also when you calculate the price per milliliter it is dangerous to compare, because a lot of other printers do automatical cleaning processes all 2-3 days and that eats amazingly much ink.
So, no - 400$ for a cartridge set doesn't hurt. I use the P900 now for around 1.75 years and it ate even less ink than I had calculated.
And to tones: In my experience, shifting colors slightly can have a big impact to the mood of an image. I do this a lot in my processing and it leads to remarkable differences. When I print then, of course, I want that the colors are as accurate as possible. My clients are not interested in the tones itself, of course. They are interested in the full package: a print that conveys the mood, which the artists was meaning. The P900 makes things really easy here for me.
We have to consider that I create fine art photographs. It might be a difference if you would print photos from a reportage photography session as any festivals, weddings, etc. I don't want to say that accurate tones would not be necessary there, but we anyway don't put that much time into a single photograph there than as we do in fine art photography. The wedding photos would get quite expensive if I would spend 10 to 20 hours into each single one :)
For me the printer is really the perfect one for fine art photography, I have to say. I print multiple times a week and sell a lot. So, it definitely works as a business printer, as well :)
Thanks a lot for watching and have a great Sunday,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Very good, on additional insight. All extremely valid and the achievability of a print should be taken into consideration. You are looking at a very specific case use for the p900. I was merely pointing out some opinions from a more modest view point.
The other big question that remains in my mind is the life expectance of low use cartridges. If you were not going to print as much as you do, should one expect clogging issues? All my prior experience with Epson cartridge printers has been issues with clogged nozzles. My tank printer can sit for a month or two, fire right up and ready to work. Even if I were to take cartridge cost out of the equation, what about reliability for occasional use?
I have no issue owning various printers for specific tasks. The purchase of a $1300 P900 isn't even a thought as to price, or even the $400 cartridge set if I knew it could sit for long periods of time unused. What concerns me in additional to value vs. necessity is reliability of a low use printer.
Again, I have a lot of respect for you and your content. My personal case use is CAD/technical prints, and also high end 3d render prints of home interiors. Art print would be the hobby use of a P900, along with enjoying the occasional 17" wide benefits of larger presentation prints for clients.
Thank you.
@@Curious_Skeptic Ink has generally the property to dry. It doesn't matter which brand you go for, an ink based printer will get clogging issues when you don't print for a longer timespan. Other brands do automatical cleaning processes all 2-3 days to avoid that. But in my opinion this is way too often, it leads to too much ink consumption. I know some photographers who print just one print all 1-2 weeks with the P900 and never got clogging issues.
I traveled a lot this year and so I had periods where I didn't print up to 3 weeks. When I was traveling for less than ~14 days, I used my printer as usual when I returned. But when I was traveling for longer than ~14 days, I started a manual cleaning process by myself, just to stay safe here. This always worked fantastically for me and I never got any issues. I would recommend to print at least one print all 1-2 weeks, independent for which ink based printer you go, in the end. Maybe I could win you to get a bit more into artistry landscape photography as a hobby. You could print your weekly landscape images than, besides your CAD and 3d prints ;) And it is such an enjoyable hobby :)
I hope this helps, nice greetings,
Christian
if you don't need A2, the Epson 8550 is very economical and has fabulous prints.
I picked up a r3000 and a r2000. Both are wonderful! The results are stunning. I print at least once every other day. The matt 13x19 paper prints are truly 😍.
Next, I would like to explore 24" photo printer. Easy to fall in love with these high quality wonders!
Great video. I've been thinking about buying a printer for a long time. Just for me, as an amateur it is better to print in lab..
Hi Jirka, well, for an amateur photographer who doesn't sell prints, it might be not economic to buy an own printer. But I think, I would also need an own printer, if I would print just for myself, because I like my photographs printed and this last finetuning process makes such a big difference - I didn't see this for years.
But of course: If you print just 5 prints a year or something like that, the ink in your printer would get dried before you'll use it next time :) If you want to use a printer for finetuning your own prints, you should have to print anything each week, or at least all two weeks.
There is definitely nothing bad with printing over labs. I did this for so many years and I got out really fantastic results. My tip here: Stick with your lab, stick with one or two papers and learn the paper to know, so that you get experience how you have to softproof your images next time, to avoid mistakes. I always ordered one A4 print in front to see, what I have to change and then I ordered the A3 or A2 print.
Thank you so much for watching and enjoy your Sunday,
Christian
Excellent video! Those shots you took look fantastic as prints Christian. Great work. I can only imagine the quality you will get as you explore and get more into different techniques. Also the fact you have a 60MP A7RIV camera now should make for some beautiful definition in your landscapes. Thanks for sharing the look at the new gear my friend 👍🙏
Hi Adrian, thank you so much! Interesting question, which difference is on printing between photographing with 24MP aps-c and 61MP full frame. I think, this could even be interesting for an own video - as soon as my knee is better and I'm able to carry 2 camera systems and 2 tripods with me to get a comparison :)
Have a great weekend,
Christian
Llevo desde el 25/02/2021 intentando imprimir en papel epson posterboard en la sc-p900 y es imposible, muchos fallos y sin solución de epson
Hi Jose, oh, I'm sorry to hear that. To be honest, I just print on fine art paper between 300 and 315g and this works fantastically for me. Which problems did you especially face when printing on poster boards? Skewed prints or something like that?
Nice greetings,
Christian
Christian muchas gracias por responder y básicamente decirte q al final de la impresión sale marcada con rayas
I have a lowly Canon Pro-100, (bottom of the line, dye-based) and print only occasionally (from LR), either using Canon paper or on Red River Paper greeting cards. I am much happier with the prints I make compared to those I have gotten from a lab, even with this bottom of the barrel setup.
Hi Keith, you do everything right with that. I haven't seen this for years :)
And it is quite funny: I thought, I'd got better quality from the lab, because they have the better printers. This remembers me a bit to photography itself: The one with the better camera must get out better photographs... I fell into exactly that trap, I always mention for photography itself :)
Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
@@christian.irmler You made the best choice for someone who sells prints. If I had customers I would want an A2/pigment based printer also instead of an A3+/dye based printer and I would be more concerned with the paper quality too. :-)
There is of course no such thing a s a 'fine art printer' as there is no such thing as a fine art print or even a fine art photograph.
There is minimalism which a lot of people mistake as fine art. Fine art is simply 'that which the artist sees/visualises' - so in effect all artists whether they be sculptors, painters or indeed photographers are by definition 'fine artists'. So with all of that out of the way - printing your own visualisations, however they are created, is a very satisfying and rewarding experience and I recommend if for all photographers!! Have a good one
Hi Nelson, I think it is all about how we define "fine art photography". If we just mean a photograph that looks like a painting, then everything you said is right. But I see "fine art photography" as a synonym of "artistry photography". And there are definitely a few things to be considered, that a photograph gets to art. Not each photo is art. I made already a video about this, if you are interested: ruclips.net/video/SaMqM6FiFWo/видео.html
In there will come a video about the different styles of artistry photography in future here on my channel :)
Thank you so much for watching and have a great weekend,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Christian - I absolutely agree - in these days of homogenisation and saturation of images across our vision it is important to understand and value the very values which makes us unique as artists. As far as the finer points of fine art - it is of course just a now overused piece of terminology and in the plethora of over saturation of our art we have to search harder - or rise to a greater challenge - to ensure our images stand above the dross of humdrum. Whilst it could be construed that everyone is an artist now we all have smartphones and apps to enhance our images - not everyone can appreciate the effort of our strife to individual artists who strive to create those images which are true to our art and to ourself. We do it because we enjoy creating it. We do it because we enjoying provoking a reaction (my definition of art - that which provokes a reaction) - but we do it also because of some hidden need to create - the tools at our disposal are now more widely available than they were before and to more people. This has been both good and bad. Good as more people can access sharing platforms. Bad because peoples perception and attention is reduced. A well made chair is a well made chair whether it is made in a factory or by hand - but we would always value the one made by hand. the same should apply to art as well. I have been pro for 35yrs and have lived and worked through many great changes - I love the new digital age - but rue it equally for the disassociation it brings. We as a society are less pleased than we used to be. We do not value things as we used to. We are all judges and jurors of everything and each of us now has a platform to voice our opinion - there is an old saying - if you have nothing to say do not say it. I wish more people could take that on board - Have a good one - I truly love your work - awe inspiring. Take care - be safe. Simon J Miller
@@nelsonclub7722 I couldn't agree more with everything you said, Simon. The term "fine art photography" is definitely overused and so many photographers think, that each photo they would take would be art. There will come more videos about this topic in future for sure ;)
Nice greetings,
Christian
I'm coming back to this printer thing...I don't know if I ever mentioned that I spent about 5 years in photo labs, including 7 weeks of 'factory training' at Agfa in München, and 3+ years in a Kodak lab... plus, of course my 6+ years of global r&d work in LEDs and light. Therefore, your comment about fine-tuning your colour in prints; if the customer has, let's say, medium quality LED lighting, with 90 CRI (could argue about CRI, but..), their experience of colour in your print could be very different from what you see in your 'lab', so that some of your attention to detail may be lost, or even counterproductive, to some customers
The ultimate 'solution' would be for you to tune colour under a similar illuminant...but, crazy times, that would be! And not for €100 prints ;-)
But, if you had a big print, and a critical customer, you could probably get close to their illuminant, and fine-tune accordingly. What a guy for rambling on, I can be...
Hi Karhu, in my experience, a print looks always a bit different from a monitor. This has already to do with the way how the light gets from the medium to the eye. A screen is backlight, paper not. This is something we have to consider when we are hard proofing, of course. I have that intelligent lamp from BenQ, which offers me a quite stable light source. It is definitely not compareable with a labor, of course. But it works fantastically for me. You find more about that in this video: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html
By the way: really great to have you on board here on my channel with your long-term experience in that area!
Have a great weekend,
Christian
Ok, hopefully not just bugging you. ;-)
I use a pro DNP 8x10 S80 thermal dye sub printer and a Cannon Selphy thermal dye sub 4x5 inch printer no costly ink and ink jet problems if the printer set to long close to real photos you get from the store foto labs tuff and long lasting like film wish they made a 11x17 printer
Hi @alphonsotate2982, thank you for your insights!
I just guess, it is not possible to print on every surface with that as it is with a pigment ink printer, like fine art paper for instance? And paper size up to A2?
Nice greetings,
Christian
I would not have bought the Epson P900, you would have been wiser to get the Canon Pro 300 for £680, because it does Not waste ink like the Epson! & the Canon cartridges are cheaper per ml, it also doesn’t need a waste ink collector-box also it uses pigment inks same as the Epson, they both produce excellent quality results, but I think the canon offers better value for money & is cheaper to run.
Hi Andy, thank you for sharing your thoughts and giving constructive feedback!
The Canon Pro 300 was not an option for me, as it prints just up to A3. As I sell A3 and A2 prints, A2 was a must criterion for me, obviously. The Epson P900 prints even up to A2+ and has even the option to upgrade to role paper, what would allow me to print wide panos up to more meters.
What I found out on my research was, that Epson printers just waste ink when you print with extreme high resolutions, higher than it were necessary for the paper you use. But there exist also printers that start a clean process all 2 or 3 days, when you don't print, what wastes amazingly much ink. I printed nearly every day over the last time, because I had to reprint me old prints as well, but I think in future, I will not print daily anymore, it could be that I will have breaks of more days between.
You are right, the ml costs for the P900 is high, even higher than for the P800. I can't say how much ink it really uses in the moment, there were no long term tests to find in the web or on RUclips, as it is a relatively new printer and I use it now just for some weeks. As soon as I can say here anything to the usage of ink, I'll mention that of course, in one of my videos here on my channel :)
I can't say anything to the quality of the Canon Pro 300, but however, thank you for your constructive feedback, I'm sure it will help the one or other here who is looking for an A3 printer.
Nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Hello again Christian, thank you for your reply to my comments about large format photo printing, I apologise because I was confusing the Epson P900 with the P700 which is an A3+ printer not an A2+ printer, as per the Canon Pro 300 I mentioned previously, I should have mentioned the Canon Pro1000 Christian as that is a A2+ printer approx £1000 English pounds, as per your P900, I’m a keen photographer of 41 years, & I love ❤️ printers & printing photographs, I presently own an CanonPro100S A3+ printer that uses Dye based inks, whereas your P900 & the pre mentioned Canon Pro1000 uses Pigment inks which are better for fine art printing & permanent for upto a staggering 200 years! My next printer will definitely be a pigment ink printer, probably the Canon Pro 1000, again sorry for the confusion Christian, in the mean time I will certainly be watching any future RUclips videos you produce from a beautiful country Austria 🇦🇹, Greetings from Sunny 🌞 Great Britain 🇬🇧, have fun with this great hobby/industry 📷😎
@@andywharam59 Hi Andy, not at all, there is nothing to excuse :) Yes, the P700 is an A3+ printer, the P900 an A2+ - both with pigment ink.
The Canon Pro 1.000 is definitely a fantastic printer and I was already more times short before to buy it and it has even little advantages in colour range for green and blue, over the Epson P900. But I'm not sure, if it is recognizable :) It is in the same price range as the Epson P900, by the way.
Have a great weekend and nice greetings,
Christian
In my opinion we should not limit ourselves to "custom profiles" and a specific supplier of paper and printer ink. Sometimes we can buy on local market a paper with wider dynamic range etc. We can also use many times cheaper ink. If we can afford such an expensive printer, we will also be able to afford a calibrator for it. Each printer changes its color characteristics slightly after a period of use. There is no "golden" ICC profile which will always be suitable for your printer + ink + paper combination. You may be surprised how much your printouts can be similar to what you see on your also calibrated graphics monitor after that. You don't need to experiment with color corrections - of course sometimes it may be required, but usually doesn't.
Hi Marek, you are not necessarily limited to a manufacturer when using custom profiles. Custom profiles can be done for every single paper as a paid service. I just find that the whole package of Fotospeed is fantastic: good paper, large selection, custom profiles, great support. And that said, I'm not sponsored by them. Of course, when you want to use a special paper from another manufacturer, we should not limit ourselves here. Thank you for adding this here in the comments!
The only thing I would not recommend to do is, using non original ink. When anything happens to the printer, you don't have warranty anymore and in the worst case the manufacturer doesn't repair it anymore :)
That's right that the printer changes colour behaviour after a while, but also paper charges are different here. So, it's definitely a good idea to repeat profiling for every new charge of paper. I tend do to that yearly, for instance.
Thanks a lot for watching, my friend. See you,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Hi Christian. Thanks for your feedback. Regarding to 3rd party paper - there is no any paid service generating ICC for printer and paper. Anyway - I don't trust such a solution because using 2 the same printers bought year by year, have noticeably different color reproduction. Single ICC doesn't fix issue on both printers. If you have freshly bought printer - it would be ok. My advice is - if you take care about stable color representation, you should buy printer + calibrator as bundle and never base on ICCs from "cloud" - even if they are paid. Moreover - I can see the difference in some color shades after printing 200 A3 sheets. Sometimes I need to calibrate printer every week.
You are right about using not original ink. I gained the experience you write about - I clogged permanently the printer's head - even using original ink. It usually happens after 1 year of using printer - which is right after the warranty expires 😁Epson's service priced the service at an amount similar to the purchase of a new printer. Fortunately I have technical skills and unclogged the head in 2 hours by disassembling it and use just distilled water + ink solvent. If we want to use 3rg party inks - we should ask lab about where they buy it. Sometimes a polite technician will recommend a suitable source for you. In my country, most of the labs uses replacements with extreme good results. Of course this is risky but worth of it. Especially when you print hundreds photos. BTW - EU laws forces printer's producers to allow using 3rd party ink. So printer's firmware must honor such a case. I checked my printer - it started doing this. Head warranty this is another issue.
Keep doing such a tutorials. In case of mentioned subject - photographers very often doesn't understand why to invest in good printer, how it works, what is ICC and color calibration, how to setup OS tu support monitor with LUT, how to configure Photoshop, Lr/ACR to get printouts reflecting what we have on the screen.
Hey Guys, I wanted to purchase this printer but i'm not very technical or fully understand the specifics. I know it can print up to 17 inches wide but with a paper roll can I paint up to 30inches in length?
Hi Nigel, the P900 is able to load paper up to 17x22 inch. When using the paper role, the maximum print width is 17 inch. The maximum height depends on how much paper is on your role. That's good for printing wide panos.
The printer is fantastic. I decided on it because of all the reasons I mentioned in the video. After a usage of 2 years I have to say that this printer was the absolute right decision.
I hope this helps ;)
Nice greetings,
Christian
Hello and thank you for a wonderful video!May i ask if this printer can use other third party papers……i mean not epson papers.Thank you in advance:-)
Hi Βασιλειος, of course, paper choice is very important. The printer manufacturers are focussed on producing their printers and they are really good in that. But there are paper manufacturers out there, who produce even better paper.
I mentioned a bit more about paper in this video here, which you have already watched (from 12:53) and also in this video, where I go through my whole printing process: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html
Printer and paper are linked down in the description, by the way. I hope this helps :)
Have a great Sunday,
Christian
Hi Christian, sorry die Störung, aber mit dem Video hast du mich irgendwie "angefixt". Ich bin aktuell für mich zur Überzeugung gekommen, daß Prints die Art u. Weise der Fotografie - positiv- beeinflussen, weil ich denke, das man schon beim Fotografieren eine "Auge" auf einen möglichen Print legt. Das könnte die Qualität der eigenen Fotografie immens erhöhen (so mein Gedanke)
Darf ich dir eine Frage stellen: so, wie ich dich kenne, hast du vor deiner Kaufentscheidung gründlich recherchiert. Bei Epson gibt es den 900-er und den 700-er. Der Unterschied liegt hier wohl lediglich in der max. Druckgröße (A2 bzw A3). Liege ich da richtig? Recht lieben Dank für deine Antwort und lg aus der Steiermark sendet Klaus.
Hallo Klaus, das ist doch überhaupt kein Problem, ich helfe gerne. Also ich sehe das genauso wie du. Wenn ich draußen bin und eine Komposition aufbaue, dann denke ich bereits an den Print. Das geht sogar soweit, dass ich die Papierwahl in die Komposition einfließen lasse :) Bei einem Baryta kann ich beispielsweise die dunklen Stellen weiter runter ziehen, was zu einem ganz anderen visuellen Gewicht im Bild führt.
Zu deiner Frage: Ich habe mich primär mit A2-Druckern beschäftigt, da ich ja vorher bereits A2 und A3 Prints verkauft haben. Aber der P700 ist mir durch den P900 (unten in der Videobeschreibung verlinkt) natürlich immer wieder aufgefallen. Und du hast recht: Das ist derselbe wie der P900, nur eben für maximal A3 und soweit ich mich erinnere, sind die Tintencartridges etwas kleiner. Aber viele Papierhersteller bieten für die beiden (P700 und P900) ein gemeinsames generischen icc-Profil an und das bedeutet: Die drucken exakt gleich.
Der P900 kann auch mit einer Papierrolle erweitert werden für Panoramadrucke. Da könnte man ein Bild von ein paar Metern Breite drucken in der Höhe von A2+. Da bin ich mir jetzt nicht ganz sicher, ob der P700 das auch kann.
Der P700 ist auch ein wenig kleiner, falls es dir um den Platz gehen sollte. Aber grundsätzlich muss ich sagen, dass mir auch der P900 durch das Design kaum Platz weg nimmt. Da liegen immer irgendwelche Prints drauf zum Trocknen :)
Ob P700 oder P900 - du wirst ausgezeichnete Prints raus bekommen.
Ich hoffe ich konnte dir damit geholfen zu haben. Falls du noch Fragen haben solltest, gib einfach Bescheid.
Schöne Grüße,
Christian
The damn lab could perfectly send you a matrix with 64 different tunings, small size, from which you would choose your prefeered.
Hi @rusticagenerica, hard proofing is indeed the way to go when you want to get accurate results. Some labs send hardproofs for free (maybe not a high number as you mentioned :)), some take extra money. I do the same when printing super sizes with 1 square meter and above. The P900 can print up to A2. For everything above I still need a lab.
Thanks a lot for watching, my friend. Nice greetings,
Christian
Man, are you related to Christoph Waltz? 🤭
By the way, thanks for the helpful video!
Hi my friend, really great to hear, that the video was useful for you!
Christoph Waltz is a fantastic actor. But no, unfortunately - I'm not related to him :) Why do you ask this? Similar dialect? I mean, he is also from Austria like me. Please tell me, I were really interested about :)
Thanks a lot and nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler hahah, thank you for getting back to me that quickly! I am going back and forth since days for my decision between the Canon pro 1000 or Epson P900. Actually the Canon is standing in my apartment already since days, because the price was good, but I can still send it back. I think I am going for that Epson :)
About the acting.. there are different things that reminds me of him: one for sure is the dialect, but also some other side notes in your way of articulating and voice pitch.. very calm and good sorry telling!
Sorry I just couldnt resist to mention it! I also think he is an outstanding actor (maybe you are too?.. Hehe)
Cheers!
@@kevinBlucas That's really funny, I never thought that the way how I am talking would be similar to Christoph Waltz :) But I take this definitely as a compliment. Thank you for telling me!
I don't feel myself as an actor, by the way. It's more that I try to stay as natural as possible in my videos. Maybe it is just the "Austrian charme" that reminds you to Waltz, haha :)
The P900 is a really great choice, I hope you'll enjoy it ;)
See you, bye!
I own a Epson tank printer the best tech in ink jet tech with ink filling by bottles in to tanks eliminating cartridges' realignment procedures for new cartridge's as long as you don't let the ink run out but while printing I can watch the ink levels drop printing photos with it is just like dumping ink on the ground just after ten small 8x10 prints that is why for real photos I will use the thermal due sub printers
Thanks a lot for your insights, my friend :)
Nice greetings,
Christian
I just bought this printer a month ago and I discovered something reaally annoying and quite upsetting: even if you do NOT printer borderless, the printer tends to dump ink on certain positions in the overspray sponge (you can see clearly dark ink lines: use a q-tip to see how much ink is dumped....terrible). Now the P900 overspray sponge is a seperate entitiy and not linked with the waste ink tank, unlike the P800, where the overspray sponge is attached to a small canal that has a slight slope towards the waste ink tank: so any ink dropped onto this the ink will drop onto the waste ink tank on the right lower part of the printer. The P900 overspray sponge does not: So instead of moving the print head all the way to the right side to dump the ink of intermediate cleaning cycles it tends to dump it on the overspray sponge too. Now those who do not want to have their overspray sponge to be soaked with ink and deliberately choose NOT to printer borderless will be deceived. I am in contact now with several people around the world to address this thing (planned obsolescence) to force Epson to issue a new firmware where the print head moves completely to the capping station where it can dump its ink during (intermediate) cleaning cycles, so the ink can be sucked into the waste ink tank and let the overspray sponge to be immaculate as possible. I have contacted Epson recently and I hope to get an answer about this.
Hi @pharmacist5884, sad to hear that you seem to have a problem with your P900. I know that some had troubles with their P900 in the very beginning, but they got a warranty replacement from Epson. I cross my fingers that they will also find a solution for you soon.
Have a great weekend,
Christian
If I buy a print online from you, it's a safe bet I have viewed it in sRGB, If you want colour accuracy, you must also print in sRGB. I don't think I have seen that explained on RUclips,
If I buy a print from your walk-in gallery, I would expect the same colours I saw on your wall.
I won't get those colours at home unless I replicate your lighting. I don't think I have seen that explained on RUclips.
Me, I think colour is a creative choice. I believe that every individual sees colours differently, just as they disagree on other visual stimuli such as photographs of people, context of photographs, For a time, my two eyes disagreed about the colours of things I looked at.
Others' views about which of my photographs are the best differ from mine. If I rock up at the Brighton Pier (Ben Harvey has just been talking about it), I must photograph it for prospective buyers, but I should also offer them different views, and choices between colour and monochrome.
Mostly, I would rather you find your own story in my photographs. I can control what you physically see, but I cannot control your interpretation.
Hi my friend, this is so true, I see it in the same way. And I think, that the photographer sees another photograph as his best one than the viewers, draws even wider circles than just colour, although colour has definitely a big impact to a photograph, of course. I would see emotions as base therefor and this is something that differs extremely between people. There will come a video about this topic, for sure :)
Thanks a lot for your thoughtful comment and nice greetings,
Christian
Thanks for sharing - my 3880 just died so this might be the replacement
Hi Christopher, after 2.5 years of using the P900 I can still say that it was the right decision for me. I love this printer :)
I hope you'll also enjoy it, my friend.
Nice greetings,
Christian
Después de comprarme una EPSON SC P900 en enero 2021 y 3 meses intentando q me reparen la impresora ya q da fallos al imprimir PAPEL POSTERBORAD no he recibido solución de arreglo ni cambio de impresora por parte de EPSON. Mucha suerte y que no os pase a nadie mande 26 mail y al final tuve q desistir ya q encima me costaba a mi el papel de mas de 25 pruebas. Un saludo
Hi Jose, I'm so sorry to hear about that. I've heard already about that issue, but I've also heard from others, that they are able to print on poster board without any problems.
The time and the cost for the test prints is the biggest problem here, I guess. Just an idea - if you haven't done already: You could record a video for the support, where they see, that it doesn't work and they should take it to them, to solve it or send you paper and ink for testing by yourself. I would not give up - everything else is really fantastic about this printer.
Nice greetings,
Christian
Ya le mande vídeos , fotos y de todo pero nada de nada ni una llamada para disculparse. Muchas gracias por responder
Custom profiles should not be needed for professional Epson printers, since every printer already gets calibrated in the factory. This also needs to be done when replacing the printhead and is well documented in the Epson service manuals. Without this calibration the paper icc profiles would not make sense. Of course a generic paper profile is not sufficient, you need to download the icc profile that includes the combination printer model + paper you want to print on. Of course a custom profile does not hurt, but technically it is not needed.
Hi JukeJoke, thank you for your thoughts. Well, calibration and profiling are two different things. Profiling offers me the advantage of considering the exact paper. And here are already noticable differences just between different charges of the same sort of paper. Of course, it always depends on how important exact colours are for the particular photographer. But in my experience, especially in fine art photography a slightly different tone can have already a big effect on the mood of the entire image. It is an extra step everytime when I buy new charges of paper, but I would not like to miss it, I have to say.
Thanks a lot for watching and nice greetings,
Christian
You misunderstand what I wrote. Of course paper profiles and profiling is essential. But it is not needed to profile paper X, with every P900 you own, because they are calibrated. So a P900 profile for paper X should reproduce the same results on every P900. That is why calibration is done and why downloading e.g. a Hahnemühle profile for one of their papers for the P900 works on every P900.
@@JukeJoke I understood you right, I just used to wrong word "charge". What I meant instead was "batch". Sorry for confusing. The thing is that there are production differences in every batch of paper that gets produced, which is noticable. This is why custom profils make sense. We just have to be consequent to reprofile for every new charge of paper we buy.
@@christian.irmler Ah! Understood and interesting. What paper do you buy?
@@JukeJoke I worked many years with Hahnemühle, but switched over to Fotospeed two and a half years ago. I was absolutely happy with Hahnemühle, I have to say. The funny thing is that it was the custom profiles that are offered free of charge by Fotospeed was the reason to change. That's really a noticable difference. And the service of Fotospeed is phenomenal. I had troubles with my printer in the beginning and I got better support from Fotospeed (for my printer!) than from the printer manufacturer :) I found euqal Fotospeed paper sorts I prefered on Hahnemühle, which was a tiny bit cheaper and some of them offered even a better DMAX than the Hahnemühle equivalent. The custom profiles as a bonus. And that said: I'm not sponsored by Fotospeed. I also buy my paper totally by myself. You can also do custom profiling with Hahnemühle paper or any other brand. But you need to find a company that is doing that for you and you have to pay extra money therefore. All in all, it is easier with Fotospeed, I don't have to care about all too much and the print results are fantastic. When I think about it, they should sponsor me, actually :)
Nice greetings,
Christian
From what I read , there seems to be a sting in the tail with the epsons…come with almost zero ink and need to spend £240 on ink immediately
Hi @zagcatt, I can't agree with that. When I set up my P900 first time, it runs indeed a complete cleaning process and function test, which empties indeed a lot of ink. When I remember right, it was around one third of the cartridges, so there is still enough inside that you don't have to exchange them immediately. But that is the same for all the other fine art printers out there. The P900 is even quite ink saving here. Whilst others make a cleaning process all 2 to 3 days, the P900 does the cleaning just if you start it manually, when you really need it, which saves a lot of ink.
I hope that helps.
Nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler thank you, good to hear as I was torn between the canon1000 and this . Just almost every (of many) 900 review I’ve read complain bitterly about having to buy all inks immediately, but the canon comes full?
Ja, seeing a print is a different 'experience', beyond the colour science part ;-)
Sadly, living in a Wohnung wall space is limited, and even getting a print on the wall is a hassle...oh, and, mounting? Framing? What is your experience, or ideas, about those subjects? Somehow, it seems like a print with just a white, or grey, border, mounted on foam board, is pretty close to 'the artist's view'?
Have a super Wochenende, and I hope that your knee continues to improve, and gets you back in the field!
Hi Lohi, oh yes - space is limited and I have also to change here something in my house.
The frame (size, colour, style) and the passepartouts (if used) is a big difference and these things generally depend totally on the particular image. Most of the paintings of my grandfather were analysed by experts who chose the fitting frames and passepartouts.
But on my experience, what also should be considered is "the world outside of the frame". This means your furniture, the style of the room, but also if you hang a lot of different images onto your wall, an option is to decide for one style of frame, to get the images connected.
I'm currently standing in front of a big problem, exactly with this topic, as I got some of the paintings of my grandfather to hang up and I also plan to hang up even more of my photos. I think there will come a video about this topic, when I found the best possible solution. I'm currently in contact with some experts and get totally fantastic advice, really an interesting topic :)
Nice greetings,
Christian
Cooles Thema, auch ein bissl ein Traum, so ein eigener A3 oder gar A2 Drucker.
Hast du eigentlich irgendwann vor, auch deutsche Videos zu machen?
Hallo Bernhard, von Instagram weiß ich, dass du ganz hervorragende Fotos machst. Den Schritt zum eigenen Drucker kann ich dir wirklich sehr empfehlen.
Der Epson SC-P900 ist übrigens ein A2+ Drucker. Es gibt auch eine kleinere Version, das ist der SC-P700. Der ist soweit ich weiß exakt gleich von den Specs, nur dass er eben nur bis zu A3+ drucken kann. Nachdem ich ja Prints in A2 schon angeboten hatte, kam der 700er für mich nicht in Frage.
Deutsche Videos sind derzeit eigentlich nicht geplant. Dazu müsste ich einen eigenen Kanal starten und mehr als 1 Video pro Woche neben der Firma ist für mich unvorstellbar. Ich weiß, dass es einige gibt, die 2 bis sogar 3 Videos pro Woche raus hauen - neben dem Job. Aber um ehrlich zu sein, es ist mir nicht ganz klar wie die das schaffen. In so einem Video stecken viele, viele Stunden an Arbeit :)
Ich würde mich natürlich sehr darüber freuen, wenn du dir meine englischen Videos anschaust. Ich verwende nur sehr einfaches Englisch - kompliziertes Englisch kann ich gar nicht, haha :)
Vielen Dank für's Schauen und genieße dein Wochenende,
Christian
@@christian.irmler danke dir! So ein Drucker... schon sehr verführerisch :-)
Keine Sorge, ich kann sehr gut englisch, hab viele Freunde aus UK/US, schaue alles auf englisch.
Your argument about he printer resolution being sufficient even at 600dpi doesn‘t hold much under scrutiny, the printer resolution must be much bigger than your image resoution because the printer only is able to print in a few colors natively, the rest of the colors he must create by placing small ink droplets very close to each other so that the human eye can‘t discern them and perceives them as a different color. That happens through creating much higher intermediate images in the native colors of the printer and that‘s the cited resolution of the printer. It has nothing to do with the requires resolution of the image!
Hi Karl, thank you for your thoughts! Colour is indeed a quite important thing for me and yes, the resolution has theoretically an effect to that when it gets too low. I have to say, I tested here really a lot to find the best possible printing resolution for each sort of paper and I'm pretty sure there are differences when we compare a lower and a higher resolution print, side by side with a strong magnifier or even with a microscope. But for me, when I'm just normally looking at them, I really can't tell any difference, to be honest (for the resolutions I use) - also not in colour. And that is what ultimately matters for me. For sharpness, it depends on the paper, I have to say. On my experience, when using more glossy paper, I need a tiny bit higher resolution, for matt paper it can be quite low, even. The hard proofing process is so important, to understand how the print comes out, in the end.
But however, thank you for your comment. Colour is important, of course.
Thanks a lot and nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler
You mix ppi (the classical 300 you see in your editing program, even if it’s sometimes mislabeled dpi) and dpi (the resolution of your printer).
ppi is pixel per inch and used to transform the digital image size into a physical size. dpi is dots per inch.
Unless, of course, the Epson P900 print head clogs with the frequency of the Epson PXXXX series printers. Then you will find that using a print service is a lot cheaper. See this Epson P9900 user's experience and the comments on his video: ruclips.net/video/Bf6kOEtgQqE/видео.html&lc=UgwrynplGy2R5xta1Rp4AaABAg
Hi my friend, thank you for your comment!
Maintenance is always a thing you should consider, of course. But it is difficult to predict for the P900, as it is still a quite young printer and there is no long term experience with it. Time will show :)
Thank you for watching - a Happy New Year and nice greetings,
Christian
Be careful: this printer tends to dump ink on the overspray sponge even you DO NOT printer borderless and since the overspray sponge is not connected to the waste ink tank, this will fill up after a time and forcing you to send the printer back to a service center to have the printer to be cleaned.....a type of hidden planned obsolescence. I contacted Epson about this strange behaviour, since it only happens when choosing PB papers (glossy, semi-gloss, satin) and printing smaller than 17"wide papers. It does not happen when printing with MB (matte, washi, canvas), even if you choose smaller sizes.
Hi again, I use this printer meanwhile for almost three years and I print a lot of prints every week with matte and glossy papers, but I can't confirm a common behaviour like that. I could imagine that there is either an issue with your particular printer or with a production batch. I'm pretty sure, Epson will find a solution for you. I cross my fingers for you!
Nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler I am in contact with several other people having the same problem. Keith Cooper seems to have the same "problem" and he is not afraid of this, but on dpreview there a few other people noticing this particular problem. Did check the ink dumping by pressing some paper towel on those dark stripes on the right towards the capping station. Again: on matte paper it seems to be absent. Do you print with a particular setting (for example: high speed off ?) when printing with glossy setting (PB) ?
@@pharmacist5884 Interesting, maybe it is really a question of the settings. Again, I never faced it and I print a lot with different sorts of paper: matte and glossy. One thing I do is, which I think could be relevant: I use the lowest possible resolution that doesn't make a difference to a higher one for the particular paper. That is usually something between 240 and 300dpi for wall art, but I check that for the particular paper. Matte paper is usually more at the 240dpi side, glossy one more at 300dpi. A higher resolution would just put ink over ink, which wastes ink and doesn't lead to noticable better quality.
I show most of my print settings in this video here, which is all about how to get better prints: ruclips.net/video/eymJk9eQZKU/видео.html
I hope that helps. Good luck and feel free to keep me up to date,
Christian
It makes me laugh, that ' photographers ' spend thousands of £s,$s or Euros on super dangle fangle cameras and lenses, just that they could show it on social media @ 72 dpi. Nuts. Get a proper printer and see your work in the flesh.
Hi my friend, thank you for your thoughts!
Finally it happens exactly that, what the industry wants us make to believe: The better the camera, the better the photos.
I think one of the major problems here is: Beginners see the "good photographers" using expensive camera gear. The logical conclusion is: The better camera makes better photos. What's not the case, of course. But it is the only obvious thing that is seen by someone who has no experience. And we all were beginners any time in the past...
This is also the reason why I emphasis gear not all too much here on my channel, but much more composition - what really leads into good photos, when you get it to work.
Thank you so much for watching and nice greetings from Austria,
Christian
This is a really good printer ruclips.net/user/postUgkxciSwynMJ7PnUvvx11rewiu-yFBkZTl53 . The reason I gave 4 stars for tech support (which I don't think this would classify as tech support) is because once you turn the printer on, it does require a little bit of start up time which may bother some who are in a hurry to quickly print something. To offset that though the printer prints very quickly. I would definitely purchase this printer again.
Hi Анна, it's so good to have the wifi option with this printer, but I generally prefer a cable if it is possible 🙂
Thank you for your insights, my friend!
Nice greetings,
Christian
а я купил Canon TC-20 и печатаю до A1 !
Hi again, congrats to your large format printer 😉
Enjoy your weekend,
Christian
да и 4-х цветные принтеры отлично печатают после калибровки... а остальное маркетинговый развод.. ;)
Hi Andrei, I hope the Google translater translated that correctly for me. More colours are an advantage, as you get a finer colour match. And pigment ink is definitely better than diy ink. But however, important is that we have fun at printing our images 😉
Thanks a lot for watching my friend and nice greetings,
Christian
You are a photographer, you are also probably wrong about the shape of earth. But more importantly, you will soon want a larger printer! SO why didnt you go for the Pro-1000?
Hi Phil, thank you for your thoughts! Well, with the Canon Pro-1000 you can also not print bigger than A2, same as with the P900. Could it be that you have exchanged it with the P700, which goes just up to A3? I sell prints in A2 and A3, this was an important requirement for me. For bigger sizes I offer special editions from time to time, where I print oversizes over a lab (even bigger than A0). The P900 offers a couple of advantages for me, I mentioned in the video. I like also the possibility to use paper roles on the P900 for pano shots. The design is handy, ink consumtion is stunning low, etc. It's a good printer, I like it.
Thanks a lot for watching and nice greetings,
Christian
@@christian.irmler Hi Christian, I didn't mean to suggest that the Canon would print larger, just was wondering if there were additional outstanding reasons on the decision over the Canon. But I guess those you mention added up are enough. My main curiosity is if there is a way we can know which one wastes or uses more ink, and eventually economical. I searched YT, and looks like they are not there, or not easy to find. Even DPReview did not have much to say about it. I also print on a 44" wide printer, so I needed something for the smaller to medium size, and at the time I think the Canon was a good option, so the Pro-1000 is what I got. My 44" is a Z3200. Also, the software on the inks is less like a police on how you use inks. There are 3rd party that do a very good match, and the few percent can be adjusted with a custom profile I can create.
I have been printing for over 2 decades, and LOVE it. I just have not marketed myself for selling prints. But, now I have to, as the costs are too much and our income as photographer has gotten very small. I will be watching your video on that subject.
And btw, you might want to think about the question: At what point does water start to bend. And then think about all the photographers that have photographed over 3 or so miles. Most over 9 miles with camera 1 foot above the sea level. Since we are standing on a ball, we are tiny, but we can calculate our perspective vision to know when the earth curve, or hump would get in the way of our vision. So far it has been atmosphere and perspective of vanishing point and converging lines. If this brings up a curiosity in you. Do NOT search for things, as censorship will only get you bias confirmation, and lots of pages of useless info. I would think you would not give it much thought. But I have links you can use to learn what it is we are seeing first, in order to understand it. I have architectural training as well, so we have learned this in school, but most people, and even photographers do not understand these basics of overlapping form, and converging lines, etc.. Also There is a simple curve calculator that tells you based on height where this curve should be and how much it covers. Anyway, the BEST way is to learn a few things and then go to the large bodies of water and test this. As a landscape shooter, you will love it, and you might be blown away. Sorry to steer you, or at least for trying to ....in this direction, but you live in a wonderful location. Here is what people love phtographing at Mountain Canigou. Which shows the sun behind the mountains. This is one of simple truths on what it means. Anyway. I need to watch your print money tips..lol, so I can learn from you on selling prints. Cheers!
He talks about the printer at 9 minutes in.
Hi Doyen, thank you for adding this here in the comments. This could be useful for those who are just interested in this particular printer, for sure. But for those who are unsure if they should buy an own printer or not, I would recommend to start watching at 0:00 :)
Thanks a lot for watching, my friend. Nice greetings,
Christian
Your point? The title doesn’t insist that this is solely a printer review. It suggests that he will be telling you about his choice to buy a printer and he clearly describes that decision and experience.