To those who don't know. KC tried to use their Kayo as bait by having him make so much noise on one site and even drop the spike while they all gather on the other site and have Omen use his ult to take the spike. The plan was to make the defenders over rotate to defend the dropped spike. But of course, Navi knew what they're planning because it's a painfully obvious plan that doesn't even work in the highest elo on ranked let alone a pro game. TMV himself is malding quite a lot because he has been pointing out how dumb this play is. Not only do you sacrifice 1 person, you also don't get a guaranteed take on the other site and there's also that possibility of your Omen fxcking up the TP. Even if we ignore all that, there's also the fact that it's a very obvious and easily checkable plan. The defenders can just check if the attacker Omen has his ult or close to getting his ult. They can also check the amount of footsteps that's rushing in to the site.
No, it was mainly used because they expected Navi to run an anti-KAYO setup with Cypher by putting the trips on the other site. By Ze1sh ulting and creating a small fake they had a small window to execute on B. But because they got hit by a knife on B they cancelled the hit.
@@Yaisam if the anti-kayo setup was the only thing, KC wouldn’t have given kayo the spike and wasted time + omen ult to retrieve it. Also kayo wouldn’t have blindly rushed in without support and just waste his life if all he needed to do was supress cypher. It’s clear they were trying to go for this overused “fake spike drop” strat that even golds can read nowdays. Horrible calls
@@darkduelist6755 I never said "only thing", I clearly stated that it was the MAIN reason and creating the small fake was an extra. And Ze1sh literally explained this himself in Sliggy's chat :) I'm not saying it was a good strat, just trying to give more context
the most laughable thing is suygetsu has god damn ult, and they give them corpse to Navi so Suygetsu can ult and verify that all KC members all on B Main
Considering how horrible they were prior to these two games vs NAVI and KOI I guess we should all be proud of KC for even bringing these games 13-11 13-7 close (and winning at last vs KOI). What an improvement. Scream is a goat but please don't let him igl ever again (just my braindead 2 cents)
I wouldn't recommend it unless it was your only choice, I've seen players counter this by having multiple people sitting on the spike before the omen ults and that was back when I was in bronze
I remember team secret doing this strat with a solo jett in A with the spike but the whole team already had B. their jett had to sell the fake hard though.
yooo guys...Write possible scenarios/explanation for this KC plan Winner (with most likes) can replace SCREAM and takes the IGL role (yes, it doesn't matter if you are bronze)
Seriously, if Nivera desperately want to use op just pick the godamn jet and let scream play skye to setup his lil bro. Scream literally thinks that jet is the only agent who can top frag and aim at juan tap pixel💀
Maybe... just maybe it would've worked if Omen and friends were really on A site instead of B and Omen ulting the spike faking they're going B, then explodes to A, yeah?
I think the only way this is interesting is if you did a double fake and no eta is in A lobby when he TPs. You still lose a player which is bad but at least there’s a little bit of misdirection
they coulda done the same thing but actually go a but i feel like no matter what this plan kinda sucks especially kayo just kinda dies without any value.. they could just done a full send rush b and have omen tp boat house then play for post.
Kay o ult fake b while holding a spike XD and try to get it using omen ult i dont know if this is -10.000 iq or -10.000.000 iq they are wasting 2 ult and 1 player for what? 😂😂 this team is hella troll but so fucking entertaining
Nahhh man leave KC alone they need to practice a little more and they can become one of the best teams. I don’t know know why people are picking on them, we cant even say that they have a big ego. Just let them play. Even the fact that they went 11-12 against such good team as NAVI, shows they got potential!
every team *has* potential. and true, Ze1sh being slotted in as IGL has been a huge improvement. But they're STILL doing dumb shit and the fact that not only are they the fckin biggest eSports org in France, but they assembled this super team and just let ScreaM do whatever his himbo brain wanted for a few months.... you reap what you sow, s'all im sayin
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TMV predicted the overcooking, what a chad
To those who don't know.
KC tried to use their Kayo as bait by having him make so much noise on one site and even drop the spike while they all gather on the other site and have Omen use his ult to take the spike.
The plan was to make the defenders over rotate to defend the dropped spike. But of course, Navi knew what they're planning because it's a painfully obvious plan that doesn't even work in the highest elo on ranked let alone a pro game.
TMV himself is malding quite a lot because he has been pointing out how dumb this play is. Not only do you sacrifice 1 person, you also don't get a guaranteed take on the other site and there's also that possibility of your Omen fxcking up the TP.
Even if we ignore all that, there's also the fact that it's a very obvious and easily checkable plan. The defenders can just check if the attacker Omen has his ult or close to getting his ult. They can also check the amount of footsteps that's rushing in to the site.
Yeah its pretty dumb, even gold-plat can read that
No, it was mainly used because they expected Navi to run an anti-KAYO setup with Cypher by putting the trips on the other site. By Ze1sh ulting and creating a small fake they had a small window to execute on B. But because they got hit by a knife on B they cancelled the hit.
@@Yaisam if the anti-kayo setup was the only thing, KC wouldn’t have given kayo the spike and wasted time + omen ult to retrieve it. Also kayo wouldn’t have blindly rushed in without support and just waste his life if all he needed to do was supress cypher. It’s clear they were trying to go for this overused “fake spike drop” strat that even golds can read nowdays. Horrible calls
@@darkduelist6755 I never said "only thing", I clearly stated that it was the MAIN reason and creating the small fake was an extra. And Ze1sh literally explained this himself in Sliggy's chat :) I'm not saying it was a good strat, just trying to give more context
This worked one with TS. I cant remember the enemy team tho.
the most laughable thing is suygetsu has god damn ult, and they give them corpse to Navi so Suygetsu can ult and verify that all KC members all on B Main
yep. absolutely troll.
ThinkManValo had a true heart broken moment there. You can see the frame when his heart breaks.
He even had a video about the exact same round called "The worst round in Valorant"
The hilarious thing was Omen gets scanned by kay/o then after their kay/o died, they got revealed by cypher why don't they add that to the equation 😂😂
Sideshow with usa flag is just surreal lmao
sorry bro...I f***** up hard 😂
"that is the most overcooked thing I've seen" 🤣🤣🤣
Considering how horrible they were prior to these two games vs NAVI and KOI I guess we should all be proud of KC for even bringing these games 13-11 13-7 close (and winning at last vs KOI). What an improvement. Scream is a goat but please don't let him igl ever again (just my braindead 2 cents)
ZEISH IS THE IGL LOL HAHAH
@@clairvoyance7424 but scream was, and since they changed for zeish its much better
@@nhiil4495 zeish > Derke
@@clairvoyance7424 thats cope
ange1 said they didnt even prepare so 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
It was a great strat
It might work in silver
it can work only in ranked and not even every match bro this is a old trick and even a plat player wont rotate if h drop the spike and u have omen ult
@@lazzzy5514 bro even in ranked people always leave at least two on site
@@lazzzy5514 they clearly mentioned "silver" .. you dindt have to write a long ass para reply
I wouldn't recommend it unless it was your only choice, I've seen players counter this by having multiple people sitting on the spike before the omen ults and that was back when I was in bronze
@@lazzzy5514 trust me my plat lobbies overrotate every single round xD
My favorite American, sideshow
I remember team secret doing this strat with a solo jett in A with the spike but the whole team already had B. their jett had to sell the fake hard though.
Ah yes, sideshow the good old american
yooo guys...Write possible scenarios/explanation for this KC plan
Winner (with most likes) can replace SCREAM and takes the IGL role (yes, it doesn't matter if you are bronze)
1. KC ZE1SH needs to poop 💩
2. the coach bet $500 on 2-0 NAVI win
Seriously, if Nivera desperately want to use op just pick the godamn jet and let scream play skye to setup his lil bro. Scream literally thinks that jet is the only agent who can top frag and aim at juan tap pixel💀
if they made double fake omen tp on the same site they could hve won
They tried to double fake but forgot that Cypher can ult from KAY O's body
Tmv being a bit relieved that they aren't rushing site,
ZEISH:
that kayo ult has so much more value raw than this strat
tmv literally made a whole ass video abt why this strat is garbage prior to this match
tmv is just tooo funny
Maybe... just maybe it would've worked if Omen and friends were really on A site instead of B and Omen ulting the spike faking they're going B, then explodes to A, yeah?
Simple answer: Cypher Ult.
This strat is good probs can work in silver lobbies
I think the only way this is interesting is if you did a double fake and no eta is in A lobby when he TPs. You still lose a player which is bad but at least there’s a little bit of misdirection
Sideshow is from the UK I think?
True, u right.
This plan might have work if they have yoru on the team to make more noises and sova to do a fake recon.
And they got into a winnable 3 vs 2 post plant even after all that nonsense.
they couldve just stayed the a site and did all they did and they'd still get the a site free as at last only cypher was left
they coulda done the same thing but actually go a but i feel like no matter what this plan kinda sucks especially kayo just kinda dies without any value.. they could just done a full send rush b and have omen tp boat house then play for post.
TMV called it lmao
John Cena in Indian wedding is so random 😂
KC out there thinking they are playing against silvers
Heck, even silvers wouldn't fall for that trick
KC has come a long way
Ranked mode on!
This thing dont even work in gold/plat nowadays
When your whole team is Silver and you went to play VCT
This is the dumbest strat ive ever seen in the seven seas
Nivera the goat✌✌
SETUP ANTI CIPHER BROO ITS LOGIC
Nah this shit doesn't even work in ranked man😂
anyone thinking it couldve worked if they ulted from a? like if they acted like it was a fake a hit
Still a no. Cypher's ult is up.
I think TS did this one time.
sideshow isnt american
True, my mistake 🙂
Im confused af
They were trying to bait navi into protecting the spike then use omen ult to get spike but it was too obvious so they just held the site like normal
They basically did it for literally nothing, even silvers know this play, they also sacrifice 2 ulti, for a dumb play
they need to stop cooking
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Kay o ult fake b while holding a spike XD and try to get it using omen ult i dont know if this is -10.000 iq or -10.000.000 iq they are wasting 2 ult and 1 player for what? 😂😂 this team is hella troll but so fucking entertaining
last round no such thing as wasting ults when its last round or ot. still a dumb plan
Nahhh man leave KC alone they need to practice a little more and they can become one of the best teams. I don’t know know why people are picking on them, we cant even say that they have a big ego. Just let them play. Even the fact that they went 11-12 against such good team as NAVI, shows they got potential!
they are improving thats for sure, but them becoming one of the best is pure copium
Avreage brain dead kc fan
Weak mentality.
@@flowy3422 nah u are
every team *has* potential. and true, Ze1sh being slotted in as IGL has been a huge improvement. But they're STILL doing dumb shit and the fact that not only are they the fckin biggest eSports org in France, but they assembled this super team and just let ScreaM do whatever his himbo brain wanted for a few months.... you reap what you sow, s'all im sayin
tryin to copy the team secret strat lmfao. flopppppppp
It's a great STRAT .... For bronze
Karmine Corp more like Bronze Corp 🤣😂
OMG lol
If you start crying over a pro game in childs game then you're just cringe
Idk if Karmine Corp exists just for the memes.
They could have just run down A with kayo ult and possibly win the round in the postplants. But that wouldn't be a kc moment