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Additional note: So I can see that this topic is quite devisive which is totally fine. I think it's important for me to clarify, that in no way am I angry that people can now acquire the core game or the gold edition at a lower price, that's great for any new players; good for them! The issue for me, is the fact that the 90 euros I originally payed, didn't turn into 90 euros worth of content. I think the majority of people who buys ANYTHING in life, expects to get an according amount of value in return. And when preordering a game, you will usually expect a little more as well, since you're not only giving your money, but also your trust in a game and it's future. From this perspective, I feel like I've given away 30 euros for nothing.
I pre-ordered the gold edition and I essentially paid for the negative experience I had over a year of playing this game. All those who buy the game now will get all this content, but at a reduced price and without all these issues I encountered. I, on the other hand, paid extra money to feel worse about myself if I had bought the game now at the lower game price.
I felt the same with battlefield 2042... 120 euros for absolutely nothing ok they fixed the game etc... but... I mean they made aaaaaa lot of dirty moves imo and the game went free on ps plus and gamepass during the FIRST year of content... Unbelievable, so I think we have to preorder games where we have 100% certainty otherwise these unfortunate situations happen have a nice day my man bad things happens peace and love 💙
Yeah definitely, and understandably! They have fixed and improved so many things, that's not my what I'm dissapointed by. It's just the fact that many of us payed 30 euros more, for nothing extra.
As a pre order purchaser of the gold edition at 90 euros, gold edition now being 60, with a couple fking skins that isn’t actually playable content, yeah I’m pissed, but I’ve played payday since 2012, before the launch of payday 2, so I’m still gna support the franchise no matter what
@@MrAlekk Yeah, people have been speculating that it will be FWB, which will be the first map to be in all 3 payday games, and sure thats fine, but if you make everybody pay 30-40% of the game's price for DLC, then drop all the game's DLC prices by 60%, you better make it up to the people that gave you their money, i literally just bought chapter 3 and 4 and then they proceed to drop the prices.
Remember completely overkill and the scam there? I was one of the people who ended up getting my money back through trading standards and I'm still banned from steam forums for PD2 because of calling out almir and the team on the scam
If purchased while not on sale or during the first 2 sales, then they have taken your money. Thankfully every other sale had at least a slightly better deal.
I mean, we paid extra, but itsn't this better for the game after all? If you bought it for 40, I would say you're a payday fan, since the game wasn't the best for the past year. In conclusion, starbreeze has extra money for the game and people will be more likely to buy it now
It's a matter of perspective of course. If you're a huge Payday and Starbreeze fan/supporter, then sure, you have given them extra resources to continue development. I don't share this view though. When I decide to buy a game for almost 100 euros, I expect to get 100 euros worth ATLEAST in return. With these changes, my 100 euros have turned into 60 euros worth. One thing I will note, I am not mad that the prices have dropped. I think it's great and it's awesome to know that more people will get into the game at a lower cost. But I do hope, that when the next paid DLC is released, I will also be given that, considering I supported them even before day one with my preorder. But I am not holding my breath on that :)
didnt you still technically get everything that was promised and some small extras? i mean you got the deal you paid for. the prices changed an that stings i get that. but i cant really see this as a scam then. would you complained if they hadnt changed? its kinda just good for returning players, no?
It's obviously not a scam, atleast not in a legal sense, but the feeling I am left with is that I have payed 30 euros for nothing, which gives me a feeling of being tricked/scammed. Yes, I received everything I payed for + some small cosmetic extras. But by reducing the prices just a little over a year after the initial sales, they have changed the value of what I bought from 90 to 60 euros now. As I said in the video, it is of course to be expected that prices drop over time, but only a year after? It feels really shitty
I didn't pay for not being able to play for the first two weeks after release. Nowhere when I bought the game did it say that. Nowhere did it say that every month, after an update was released, I wouldn't be able to get into the game for a few days because of a fucking nebula bug. I didn't pay for ping 100+ when playing solo. I didn't pay for crashing at random times. This is just a small fraction of what I've had to deal with, what I wasn't warned about before buying, what I might not have had to deal with if I bought the game later than now. I paid for a finished product, a game on release, not to be a fucking alpha tester. Technically, I paid extra money to suck the developers' dick while they stretch out the first day patch for a whole year, calling it “Operation Attempt to cure the incapacitated invalid”, oops, I mean “Operation medic bag”.
@@MrAlekk regardless if they dropped the price, you would still have spent the same amount of money. its like the case of being mad at your children for having easier time in life than you did. And if there was a choice between all getting an expensive game or new people getting the same for cheaper from now on, I'd choose the latter since it is a net positive!
You are completely wrong. First of, I pinned a comment clarifying that I don't have a problem with people getting the game and/or the DLCs cheaper, that's great for them, that whole anology is not applicable here. The issue is infact, that I would NOT have spend the same money, for the same amount of content, if I had bought the game today. For the money I spend, I haven't recieved anything noteworthy, that you can't get for the 60 euros today. It means that the original Gold Edition owners, infact paid 30 euros for nothing. And don't even get me started about how bad shape the game has been up until this summer/fall, that only solidifies the frustrations that some of us gold edition owners feel. My point is, since a lot of people not only preordered the game, we also gave our trust by buying an expensive edition, with the expectation that we would receive the 90 euros, if not more, worth of content. That is not what happened here
Recently played the second game and im planing on getting gold edition so i don't have to pay for dlcs does this mean all fiture content is free for gold or still all paid?
Additional note:
So I can see that this topic is quite devisive which is totally fine. I think it's important for me to clarify, that in no way am I angry that people can now acquire the core game or the gold edition at a lower price, that's great for any new players; good for them!
The issue for me, is the fact that the 90 euros I originally payed, didn't turn into 90 euros worth of content. I think the majority of people who buys ANYTHING in life, expects to get an according amount of value in return. And when preordering a game, you will usually expect a little more as well, since you're not only giving your money, but also your trust in a game and it's future. From this perspective, I feel like I've given away 30 euros for nothing.
People who bought Payday 3 got scammed (and deserved it)
And deserved it? What do you mean? 😂
I pre-ordered the gold edition and I essentially paid for the negative experience I had over a year of playing this game. All those who buy the game now will get all this content, but at a reduced price and without all these issues I encountered. I, on the other hand, paid extra money to feel worse about myself if I had bought the game now at the lower game price.
Yeah that's the same way I feel about it!
I felt the same with battlefield 2042... 120 euros for absolutely nothing ok they fixed the game etc... but... I mean they made aaaaaa lot of dirty moves imo and the game went free on ps plus and gamepass during the FIRST year of content... Unbelievable, so I think we have to preorder games where we have 100% certainty otherwise these unfortunate situations happen have a nice day my man bad things happens peace and love 💙
I se now ,more and more players are positive about Payday3
Yeah definitely, and understandably! They have fixed and improved so many things, that's not my what I'm dissapointed by. It's just the fact that many of us payed 30 euros more, for nothing extra.
As a pre order purchaser of the gold edition at 90 euros, gold edition now being 60, with a couple fking skins that isn’t actually playable content, yeah I’m pissed, but I’ve played payday since 2012, before the launch of payday 2, so I’m still gna support the franchise no matter what
That's a fair standpoint to have!
at least the games in a much much better state then release
That is definitely true, but still feels kinda fucked up that a lot of us payed 30 clams for basically nothing😅
i expect the next DLC free, since they have taken 60 dollars extra of my local currency that they have now slashed the price of
That sucks. There are talks about the next DLC is a remake of a payday 2 map, that will most likely be free
@@MrAlekk Yeah, people have been speculating that it will be FWB, which will be the first map to be in all 3 payday games, and sure thats fine, but if you make everybody pay 30-40% of the game's price for DLC, then drop all the game's DLC prices by 60%, you better make it up to the people that gave you their money, i literally just bought chapter 3 and 4 and then they proceed to drop the prices.
Agreed mate
Remember completely overkill and the scam there? I was one of the people who ended up getting my money back through trading standards and I'm still banned from steam forums for PD2 because of calling out almir and the team on the scam
Actually no, I've never hear about this? Is there somewhere I can learn more, I'm quite curious now
If purchased while not on sale or during the first 2 sales, then they have taken your money. Thankfully every other sale had at least a slightly better deal.
Hmmm this reminds me of something coughhh MK1 jokes aside that game is getting so much better
I mean, we paid extra, but itsn't this better for the game after all? If you bought it for 40, I would say you're a payday fan, since the game wasn't the best for the past year. In conclusion, starbreeze has extra money for the game and people will be more likely to buy it now
It's a matter of perspective of course. If you're a huge Payday and Starbreeze fan/supporter, then sure, you have given them extra resources to continue development. I don't share this view though. When I decide to buy a game for almost 100 euros, I expect to get 100 euros worth ATLEAST in return. With these changes, my 100 euros have turned into 60 euros worth.
One thing I will note, I am not mad that the prices have dropped. I think it's great and it's awesome to know that more people will get into the game at a lower cost. But I do hope, that when the next paid DLC is released, I will also be given that, considering I supported them even before day one with my preorder. But I am not holding my breath on that :)
didnt you still technically get everything that was promised and some small extras? i mean you got the deal you paid for. the prices changed an that stings i get that. but i cant really see this as a scam then. would you complained if they hadnt changed? its kinda just good for returning players, no?
daddies home please dont forget
It's obviously not a scam, atleast not in a legal sense, but the feeling I am left with is that I have payed 30 euros for nothing, which gives me a feeling of being tricked/scammed.
Yes, I received everything I payed for + some small cosmetic extras. But by reducing the prices just a little over a year after the initial sales, they have changed the value of what I bought from 90 to 60 euros now. As I said in the video, it is of course to be expected that prices drop over time, but only a year after? It feels really shitty
I didn't pay for not being able to play for the first two weeks after release. Nowhere when I bought the game did it say that. Nowhere did it say that every month, after an update was released, I wouldn't be able to get into the game for a few days because of a fucking nebula bug. I didn't pay for ping 100+ when playing solo. I didn't pay for crashing at random times. This is just a small fraction of what I've had to deal with, what I wasn't warned about before buying, what I might not have had to deal with if I bought the game later than now.
I paid for a finished product, a game on release, not to be a fucking alpha tester. Technically, I paid extra money to suck the developers' dick while they stretch out the first day patch for a whole year, calling it “Operation Attempt to cure the incapacitated invalid”, oops, I mean “Operation medic bag”.
@@MrAlekk regardless if they dropped the price, you would still have spent the same amount of money. its like the case of being mad at your children for having easier time in life than you did.
And if there was a choice between all getting an expensive game or new people getting the same for cheaper from now on, I'd choose the latter since it is a net positive!
You are completely wrong. First of, I pinned a comment clarifying that I don't have a problem with people getting the game and/or the DLCs cheaper, that's great for them, that whole anology is not applicable here.
The issue is infact, that I would NOT have spend the same money, for the same amount of content, if I had bought the game today. For the money I spend, I haven't recieved anything noteworthy, that you can't get for the 60 euros today. It means that the original Gold Edition owners, infact paid 30 euros for nothing. And don't even get me started about how bad shape the game has been up until this summer/fall, that only solidifies the frustrations that some of us gold edition owners feel.
My point is, since a lot of people not only preordered the game, we also gave our trust by buying an expensive edition, with the expectation that we would receive the 90 euros, if not more, worth of content. That is not what happened here
i hear the danish accent no matter what.
😂
first like and first comment
Recently played the second game and im planing on getting gold edition so i don't have to pay for dlcs does this mean all fiture content is free for gold or still all paid?
Gold edition unlocks all content and DLC from year 1 only
@@MrAlekk Good enough I suppose