World War II Tactics and Terminology: THE INFANTRY PATROL
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2022
- A brief video describing types of infantry patrols in the Second World War and their overall context in military operations.
Index
00:04 Intro
02:14 The Infantry Battalion
03:17 Patrol Plans
05:04 Types of Patrols
07:06 Planning a Patrol
08:36 Conducting a Patrol
11:44 Paperwork
14:33 Conclusion
15:12 End Credits
The following video on this channel is referenced:
Attack of the Leaping Horseman: Planning and Leading a Small Unit Action on the Eastern Front
• Attack of the Leaping ...
The following references were used in part in researching this video:
Primary Sources
"Lectures and Precis as Assembled by 47th London Division and Printed for GHC Battle Drill School in England by Calgary Highlanders, Canadian Army (Overseas) and Revies and Adapted to Canadian Battle Drill Training Centre", published by CBDTC 1942 (Michael Dorosh Collection)
"RCR Patrol Night 21/22 June 52", HQ 25 CIB 3-4-1 In , in the field, 22 June 52 (Library and Archives Canada)
Secondary Sources
Bull, Stephen L. "World War II Infantry Tactics: Company and Battalion" (Bloomsbury Publishing, 2021) ISBN 9781472852809
www.google.ca/books/edition/W...
Gajkowski, Matthew. "German Squad Tactics in World War II" (Reprints of The German Squad in Combat and Training Manual for Schnellen Truppen). Privately published, 1995
Rottman, Gordon L. "World War II Combat Reconnaissance Tactics" (Osprey Publishing Ltd., 2007) ISBN 9781846031373
www.google.ca/books/edition/W...
Smith, Wilfrid I. "Codeword: Canloan" (Dundurn Press, 1992) ISBN 9781550021677
books.google.ca/books/about/C...
Wood, Herbert F. "Official History of the Canadian Army in Korea: Strange Battleground" (Queen's Printer, Ottawa)
www.canada.ca/en/department-n...
Television Footage
Band of Brothers (2001)
Dreamworks Television and HBO Films
MUSIC
"A Mission"
"On The Ground"
"Bicycle"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
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More information on the German Army in general, and the 65th Infantry Division in particular, can be found at www.handgrenadedivision.com
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how much effort he puts into these videos?
Patrolling is so key that the premiere US Army leadership school, Ranger School, is mostly an endless series of patrols 24/7 on very difficult terrain. Extremely detailed operations orders(Opord) using the 5 Paragraph format are taught, then planned and led by the students deprived of food, sleep and time.
The most accurate depiction I've seen of patrol planning was in the excellent Vietnam war movie "The Odd Angry Shot" about the Australian SAS.
To be fair to Band of Brothers.
It could easily be the case that the medic genuinely thought it to be a recon patrol but the Sgt. Knew better.
Excellent explanation of these terms.
Thanks for this.
Thank you so much for making this video! I have always tried to understand what patrol truly means, but all the supposed answers where described more like reccon missions
Aw sweet a HGD upload
Wonderful video once again. I edited my comment on your uniform video because the first time I wrote the index I forgot to make a distinction between the Uffz. ohne Portepee and the Uffz. mit Portepee, and this error carried over to the index of the video.
I'll have to go take a look and correct it if needed - thanks again for taking the time.
Your videos are always super interesting and informative
Very Good
Great Video!
Been a couple months, hope your well and to see you return soon!
Great video learned a lot!
Lovely stuff. Thanks very much. By 1945, even though fully manned, platoons were often commanded by sergeants.
I'll admit my knowledge of the US forces is not as extensive as some other nationalities. The Germans always did things that way, and the Commonwealth tried to have "platoon sergeants major" in the 1939-40 period, hated it, commissioned all the warrant officer platoon commanders, and then the British faced shortages of officers. So there were exceptions there too. You may be right that I overstated the case for simplicity. I appreciate the clarification though. Where could I read more about what I presume is an officer shortage in the US? I'm guessing the green books to start, but which volume?
@@HandGrenadeDivision I only know Brits in 1945 (project on Op Veritable) and the diaries & histories have lots of sergeant and sergeant major pl comds. So I guess they reinstated it. I'll try to find out. Keep up the good work. 👍
@@dermotrooney9584 That makes sense, the whole reason for CANLOAN to begin with was a shortage of British officers in the infantry and ordnance corps. Thanks for the follow up.
@@HandGrenadeDivision I just had a skim of the diaries and there *seem* to be enough junior officers, they just let the bloke who they trusted keep the job.
@@dermotrooney9584 I think what you're seeing may be the LOB system. I should really do a video about it. It was standard practice in the Second World War - and a practice in the First as well - to designate men Left Out of Battle so that if an attack was a disaster, they had a cadre to rebuild around. So if the platoon commander took an attack in, the platoon sergeant stayed behind, or vice versa. It was standard practice by the time of the Rhineland fightng.
As an 80s -90s US Army Infantry Officer I need to ask what did the Commonwealth manuals classify raids and ambushes? In the US from at least Korea on these ops were part of patrolling.
Can you please do a video on the german jager divisions? I can't really find much about them.
I do have something in mind about the 101st Jaeger Division, and am currently going through the divisional history published in 1965. God knows when I will have time to do it, but it is on the radar.
@@HandGrenadeDivision That’s great to hear!
Do you think you will ever do a video on the Arditi?
Not my area of interest, unfortunately, though a pretty worthy subject. I'll leave it to someone passionate about the subject to tackle it, as my brief google search confirms they certainly deserve to be covered by someone able to tell their story well.
I also have another question, on your video talking about german units on the italian front, you separated them between elite, average, below average and etc. How was this defined? Just combat experience or?
That's a great question. Those were the categories used by the author of the document cited, Ludwig Graf von Ingelheim. The entire document is available through the US national archives. It is called "Die personelle und materielle Lage der deutschen Divisionen in Italien verglichen mit der Verhältnissen auf allierter Seite", NARA file MS#D-342. In English it is The personnel and materiel situation of the German divisions in Italy, compared with the situation on the Allied side. He unfortunately doesn't go into detail about methodology. I'm left with the impression it is quite subjective, probably weighted toward actual results in combat, but he does talk about certain things like numerical replacements, training, officer and NCO losses, etc. If he had any real deep methods, they're not revealed. Compare to Zetterling's work on Combat Power of the German forces in Normandy, for example. On the whole Ingelheim's conclusions seem valid enough for an internet discussion like ours, but I'm sure anyone looking at raw data could find many ways to quibble with the conclusions.
You doing good? long time since you last video?
It's amazing how time flies. I was contracted to author a regimental history and it took up a lot of my time. I do have some video scripts piled up, just trying to find time to do them justice. Thank you for asking.
Luftwaffe ranks
not the new vid getting blocked immedietely 😭😭
Momentary setback, it seems to be up now.
As a supply guy the only real patrol I ever did is kitchen patrol 🙄
It's the same in most armies; the truly untrainable are put in positions where they can't get good soldiers killed.
@@HandGrenadeDivision great video as always
i love videos like this. thank you!
Respectfully disagree with your opener on Band of Brothers. There are multiple types of reconnaissance - route, zone, area, and force. Your definition applies to the first three, but not the fourth. Both lines of dialogue, (and the actual events of the patrol) indicate that it was a reconnaissance-in-force patrol, which is doctrinally defined as: a combat operation designed to discover or test the enemy's strength, dispositions and reactions or to obtain other information. Reconnaissance in force absolutely existed as a concept and in name during WWII.
Patton famously used the phrase as a cover for disobeying orders but I'd be curious to know if there was an actual FM that refers to it - or explains the distinction between a recon-in-force (sic) and a fighting/combat patrol?
@@HandGrenadeDivision FM 7-5, Organization and Tactics of Infantry, The Rifle Battalion (1940). Does not specifically delineate the two, but talks about both topics.