Turn a Few Grape Vines Into An Entire Vineyard In a Couple Weeks With Green Cuttings
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Grape vines can be pretty expensive to buy, and when you get into the large volumes that you need for a vineyard, it can get downright expensive. I lower my vineyard costs by starting my own cuttings. For years I made cuttings as a hobby by taking dormant wood in the fall and rooting it in spring. The problem is it takes a pretty long time from cutting to rooted vine (over a year). With this method you can get new vines rooted in the same season, in fact in just a couple of weeks, and you don't need fancy misting equipment. One variety in particular, Norton (Cynthiana), is notorious for being difficult to start from dormant cuttings. Norton is a variety that does really well in our heavy clay soil, and it works really well with organic methods because, even under high disease pressure, it has beautiful clusters every season with no pesticides, chemical or organic. In this video I take cuttings of Norton and show how easy it is.
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I take hardwood cuttings in the spring as soon as the leaf buds swell. I usually take about three nodes per cuttings and shove em deep in the soil or in a big pot with a bread bag over top. Then by fall they are more then established. I also do green cuttings they root very well in pots with bread bags over top. Or a good humidity tent would work. I use indirect light for green cuttings and i usually put them next to a wall or on the concrete in pots to get the bottom to heat up faster. But with harwood sort of almost awake cuttings in spring they can be in full sun as long as you give them adequate water. I dont use rooting horomone for either and i find with green cuttings there is a higher succes rate but it requires a lil more care as for the spring cuttings they are so mucb easier and i usually have around 80% or more succes. Anyways thanks for the info i love watching vids on propogation.
Thank you for the great information! I have been saving vines from a neighbor who settled here in the teens and twenties, it could be from a time when local nurseries raised varieties just for local environments. Glad to see how to propagate them! Thank you very much, you're helping to save our diverse varieties of grapes. 🍇
I just happened across your video and you have taught me more about getting cuttings from the vine and eventually to the vineyard in a very short time. The video was concise, understandable and extremely informative. I am going to go the hunt for the rooting hormone you mentioned so I can begin with my own cuttings. Thanks again.
Thank you very much for showing us. I can't wait to try my own!
Thank you for this video as there were no other videos I could find with propagating green grapevine cuttings. I need to propagate my seeded Concord, Niagara, Catawba, & Muscadine grapevines for more plants in addition to giving some to my neighbors so that they will have their own. Instead of me performing all the work & running up my light & water bill while they come & harvest them. Shalom!
Exactly what I needed. Thank you so much. It's September here in Reno but I'm going to try it anyway. It's still warm and leaves are green and plants are producing delicious pink and green grapes
Nice video - Thanks.
Some other things you could use as growth hormornes are Willow Tip Water (the fresh growing tips off willow branches soaked in water to extract their hormornes) or water soluble asprin (salasilic acid found in asprin is one of the plant growth hormornes found in willow tips)
Honey is used for its antibacterial properties. It is not a rooting hormone.
Thank you for sharing your learnings!
I have to keep telling my wife, "plants aren't furniture, don't move them!" I can't believe you pulled out more than one to show the roots. :-)
That's funny... my wife is constantly digging up plants to move "somewhere else". So many sad plants in shock, trying to hang on.... so it goes.
Just for demonstration purposes. I wouldn't recommend it.
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I don't believe furniture should move either. I hate it. Figure out the most space efficient layout day you move in and leave it forever I say.
Well now yall tell me. I thought I was saving it from the neighbors weed eater and mower. I even broke my shovel digging it up. 😂
Great thanks to you and the algorithm :-) just what I was looking for
I have been wondering about this since I have a few vines that are absolutely vigorous, and I hate wasting so much new growth. Thank you!
One of the reasons I'm interested is because the previous owner of our place planted two grape vines that produce vigorous vegetative growth every spring, but they make no fruit because he put them in spot where they just don't get enough sun. So the good news is, there's a lot of material there for cuttings.
Hopefully by taking green cuttings I'll be able to place them in a better spot and actually get fruit out of those plants.
I gotta be honest, you've definitely helped inspire me to try my own. While I am taking a different approach, I have enjoyed your tutorials. Thanks for the help!
Green grape vine cuttings - it's June 21, here in zone 7b and I am following the green cuttings protocol. Starting with about tweny cuttings from two different grape vines. Thank you sharing how to start grape vines from cuttings.
Hello Thank ,You so much for showing how to grow a grape vine .
Hello! 😀 So interesting! Summer just around the corner here. So end of Summer I hope to get some cuttings. Awesome!.
Wow! I am so excited I came across your video! I am going to experiment with this on my established vines I have. I just ordered seeds to grow from seed, but this method may also expedite growing more for the property! Thank you so much!
-Lorelei
Interesting. What kind of seeds did you order and where from? I've never heard of people growing grapes from seed. I mean, it's possible but you never know what you'll get and it will take a lot longer to get a vine and many years to find out if it's something useful. Starting from cuttings from a known variety is far better.
@@HardcoreSustainable hey there! Ebay hahah!! 2 sprouted (merlot) but the others didn't. I imagine someone probably chewing in a grocery store grape with seeds, spiting it out, and selling them on ebay😒 you never know! I have taken cuttings off my current vines...just wanted to try from seed. Everything I grow has been from seed, then I do my own cuttings from those, (whatever they may be). Anyways, I love your Instagram! Mine is @lilladys, and my business account is @goodnessgrown and you can see all the good stuff happening! Keep it coming!
@@loreleidresman Interesting. Yeah, you can't grow Merlot from seed so I think you've been had. Probably did just get them from some random seeded grapes. I'll check out your instagram. I haven't posted anything on mine lately. Been busy but it's so easy to post.
Thank you. I have several vines and want to propagate them. Until your videos, I was clueless about pruning and care.
Glad you found it useful!
Greetings from New Zealand. Thanks for the informative podcast and for sharing your experience in grape cuttings. I've noted it in my diary for our summer and will try this out. One of your followers asked about aloe vera as a rooting hormone. I will try this out too along with the usual rooting powder.
Try Clonex rooting solution - the powders often don’t work well.
Years later and this vid is still helping people... thanks!
I suspect that maybe the reason so much info about taking fruit plant cuttings is only about using dormant hardwood, is simply because orchards/vinyards happen to do a lot of pruning when the trees or plants are dormant. So at some point way back in the day people simply decided to save those trimmings and see if they'd root eventually. But now it seems a lot of people insist that's the ONLY way to do it... which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. In spring/early summer plants are usually bursting with growth hormones etc so... yeah. Using green cuttings just seems easier and faster.
It can be easier and faster with some fruit types and some varieties. Usually green cuttings are more consistent than dormant cuttings with all grape varieties. The ideal time to prune grapes is in spring, just before the buds open. This is true of a lot of fruit trees as well. But the best time to take dormant cuttings is in the fall. You can prune anytime fruit trees are dormant, but pruning can trigger growth hormones in the plant, and that's better to happen just before the plant is about to grow than when it's trying to go dormant or in the middle of dormancy. There's also less chance of disease entering the plant if you prune closer to a time when the plant can grow and heal itself, which is in spring.
Thanks, great answer to a question I asked myself this morning, I have some vines and now will have some more hopefully.
You'll end up with a grape vine forest at this rate, great video thanks.
Really excellent gardening video... I’m an experienced gardener and I really appreciate your clear cut and concise video.
Thanks bro. Great work. I have been looking everwer for this info. Thank you
Thank you cause that was my first thought when I watched another video about pruning..
I am three weeks into rooting my SWC grape vines following this method. So far so good! I started mine in first of September...hope I am not too late. Will know soon!
Have you seen any roots forming yet?
I have done exactly as you did with my 10 cuttings.lets hope for the best.❤😂
Good luck!
So excited to try this! Thanks a bunch!😃🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I have a Norton vine, thanks, this could help me..
Dimple, pleasant, to the point, and exactly what I have been needing to know.
i have scuppernong gold muscadines and they are immune to most of grape problems they will grow just about ant soil my soil is very sandy and they are loaded this year you need gold and black to polinate they go up 1 1/4 in dia nice iwill try my cutting like you did so i can add to my vinyard
I wanted to thank you for this video. I too, looked high & low on you tube for a video on this topic and you are right, there isn't much good informative material available.....until now! I subscribe and can't wait to start learning from your videos. I appreciate your wisdom and willingness to share....and so very eager to learn more from you! thanks!!
I'm glad it was useful to you, and thanks for subscribing and watching!
One thing I've discovered from experience with cuttings: just go for it. If it's stemmy, goes from soft to hardwood, etc. Just do a bunch of cuttings, stick them in some dirt and see what happens. 😂 Then if it doesn't work go look and see if there is anything on it
I just did some cuttings of wild muscadine vines and a grape vine a few weeks ago. They're looking good. Didn't even lose their leaves. I'm gonna check in the morning and see if they have any roots.
Good to see that my grapevine cuttings have a chance. I pretty much did what you showed here. I only have 5 large new growth ones. I really hope to see roots in a few weeks. New subscriber
Good luck! I hope it goes well.
That's exciting! What a great experiment and tutorial. Thanks, Dan. As always, your experiments and hard work inspire me.
Thanks Dianne. I really appreciate your positive comments. They inspire me to continue.
I just caught your video i see its 5 yrs old . I guess Its aging well lol and will always be useful. Its a good video i liked that you sourced the hormone from ebay , ive never tried it ,its a good idea tho . Ya i liked the video, its a great simple system you use .thanks for taking the time to share.
Very informative! Thanks so much! Like you said, it can be very expensive! This helps lessen the cost....
Excellent Video clip! Apologies for chiming in, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you researched - Lammywalness Green Grapes Guide (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now)? It is a good one of a kind product for learning how to become a successful grape grower minus the headache. Ive heard some awesome things about it and my friend Sam after a lifetime of fighting got great results with it.
Thank you for aptly titling your video. Easy to find, and I'll be attempting that this spring. I have many vines that need propagating. Cheers.
Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you found it useful.
Thank you for your great information 👍
Brilliant stuff👍 very helpful info, thank you.
thanks for this very informational video. No BS, just great info
very much appreciated
thank you for sharing!
cool thankyou! I have tried 2 batches so far and it didnt seem to work yet, so researching and seeing this i see a few things i need to do to get better. I think i used too big and old established wood (from trimming this spring) and i did not put them in indirect light. Or cover them. So i will try batch 3 and hopefully i get some to start for me. 🙂
My mother, grandmother and great grandmother belonged to gardening clubs. They constantly either gave away or traded seeds, cuttings and starter plants. Some people hand down furniture, silver, etc., My family takes pride in flowers handed down from 1800ish. Lily of the valley, day lilies and irises are a few. When you get married and buy a house you are given cuttings, bulbs and/or plants.
That's a great tradition. There is a seed savers exchange group called the flower exchange that shares flower bulbs, seeds, cuttings. There is also so much to be found in farm and city yards if you just ask the owner.
Thank you for sharing this information on grape vine green cuttings. Today (Jine 4) I made twelve cuttings from three different grape vines. I do need to get some of the rooting hormone and some coco coir. Hopefully the soft seeding soil i have will work temporarily. Cant wait to have some new vines to span and cover the bamboo arbor I am building. Thanks again. I'm a new second day subscriber.
You can use any kind of starting soil medium, as long as they can get plenty of air.
Thank you for choosing the share such great information on propagating grapes through cuttings. I'll apply what I've learned to the 2 different varieties I'm currently enjoying in my backyard culinary garden.
I'm glad you found the video useful. Good luck with your green cuttings!
Jamie Lannister with some great tips on cloning grapes.
😁 I've never heard that comparison
I was thinking younger, American Bronn
I'll try this method for my vines
Well done! Will try this asap.
Great information, thanks. Im finding Spring pruning is the time to get my nursery row started. Good way to expand to additional rows and replace any winter kill
Great input - THANK YOU !!!!!!
Great video, thank you for sharing. Do you have an update video on these cuttings? I would love to see how you planted them and how they are doing now.
I don't have an update video yet. I did plant them out in a nursery bed in the garden and then moved them to the vineyard to fill in gaps.
Great video,awesome knowledge
Thank you.
very kool grapes cuttings tutorial
Nice 😀
Great video. I'll be trying this way in June/July
And I took SWC this summer and stuck them in a bed of sand and put them under mist. They are doing great!
I've got squeaky cutters like that too! But seriously, This isn't difficult at all. Vines root really, really easily and the best way is to lay a stretch of vine on the ground, cover several nodes with earth and cut free and pick up your new vine three months later. It's called ground layering.
Yes that is a great way to propagate grapes, but it's not as fast as green cuttings, though probably more reliable with difficult to root varieties. I propagate my Norton that way.
It's even easier than all that. Lay a stretch of vine on soil already in a bucket. After it roots, cut it from it's parent source. Now you have a new vine independent of the parent and it's already in a bucket and ready to move
Nice very helpful👍
Any chance of seeing what the vines look like now please ?
Great content! You have a new subscriber :) Dreaming of my own organic vineyard & sustainable life. Love from Europe x
Good to have you as a subscriber!
I’m going to do this!
Hola Amigo,💃I am growing 2 in pots here in Edmonton 🇨🇦I just transplanted them and wrapped them up in insulated material as our winter it's brutal 🙊😂🥶It has plenty of drainage and 🤞 I will learn how to prune them and get them long enough to cover the deck bins🌞🌞💪🙌Thanks for the video I got inspired to propagate them💋
I discovered old , deer-munched muscadines on the edge of my property. Thanks to you I am considering propagation using this method
I'd give it a shot. I'm not sure if muscadines are as easy or easier to root.
Hardcore Sustainable well I will include my experience for you . Additionally I suppose I should try to be sure I have both male and female since I do not recall seeing any grows in mine when the neighbors were in full “heavy with fruit mode “
Good info. I am experimenting with growing trees as well as vines, wild bushes, and other fruit from seeds. I also want to try propagating plants from cuttings. I will use this information for a variety of plants. Thanks
Great video, thanks!
Wow excellent.
Thanks for this vid, Brother! Rare info...
So helpful!
brilliant! i love the five gallon bucket 'greenhouses'- great idea! i wonder if the church down the street wants a vineyard in their yard 😁
love the shirt & the tunes, too~
Thanks! Yeah I like the shirt too.
Thanks for showing this. I'd like to try it next season.
I found using fabric pots works well for rooting grape cuttings.
Thanks for the info on the rooting hormone compound.. I bought one of the cheap ones at Walmart and checked it and it had 0.1% IBA in it..
I did some math though and if anyone else like me buys one of these cheapo mixes that only has .1% IBA in it you can get the same strength mixture by increasing the amount per quart of water added. My particular container is 56 grams at .1% IBA so I need 2.5 tsp of powder to get to the strength of his 1/4 tsp in a quart jar. So my canister will make approximately 10 quarts of rooting hormone where his will make about 44 quarts from what I assume is a 25 mg package. So if you buy the cheap stuff just put in about ten times the amount of powder 2.5 tsp as compared 1/4 and you should do fine on the strength of the rooting hormone...
This was incredible helpful.
Gonna do this
Great video thank you so much👍🏼👍🏼
I love cococoir!!
Thanks for the video, looking forward to plant alot of vines this year...
#TheWinemaker
NICE BROTHER!! Looks good. Thanks for making the video.
Thanks for the video content! Excuse me for the intrusion, I am interested in your initial thoughts. Have you considered - Lammywalness Green Grapes Guide (probably on Google)? It is an awesome one of a kind product for learning how to become a successful grape grower without the normal expense. Ive heard some awesome things about it and my friend Sam at very last got excellent success with it.
Hi it;s agood idea to take cutting from the mother plant, at least you know what the grape is. I'm going to buy a Grape plant soon, then i will take cuttings, in the second season, yep buying from nursery's are expensive, thankyou.
Excellent video! Very informative. Great job of explaining what your doing and how to do it.i plant at home table grape jupiter
Thank you!
Great info! My local winery has the Frontenac a hybrid here in the Buckeye State. By far my favorite red of all the other reds they produce. Thanks for the great info!
I have some Frontenac in my vineyard. It's a good one, but it doesn't do so well in wetter years using organic methods. Is the red you mention dry, or sweet?
It is a dry, not a fan of the sweets.
The name of the winery is Old Mason winery
Nicely done. Clear instructions, easily understood, with results both good and bad. I'll be giving this experiment a go next season for Northern varieties. We are in upper Vermont, the Northeast Kingdom. Have you tried to winter cuttings once started in a green house to set roots further rather than the nursery Route?
I wonder if less interruption of the growing process, ie: multiple transplants, might benefit the vines better.
Yes, definitely less transplanting would help, and making sure that they have really good roots established when you transplant. I've done dormant cuttings before and they work good too, but they take longer to root from the time you take them since they have to be overwintered.
awesome!
thanks for sharing!!!
Merci bcp.
Thanks for the video. I really appreciate your showing the cuttings and beginning of rooting two weeks later. A lot vids just show sticking them in the pot, and I'm always skeptical or curious, Did it work? I have an experiment underway.
It does work, but you have to be careful about a lot of things, like keeping the cuttings from being too wet or too dry, making sure you have a good clean soil mix, and that you coddle them until they have good root systems and top growth before planting them out in a nursery row. Good luck with yours!
I shared this video on my @suburbanhomesteaderwy page on Facebook. It is so interesting.
One reason grape vines are expensive from the nursery is that they are grafted onto disease resistant root stock. Simply rooting the fruit variety will not be disease resistant. Cheaper but likely to get infected and die over time.
Yes, it is true that you can get guaranteed disease free vines from a nursery and the grafted ones are more expensive because of the work involved in grafting them, and the fact that they will grow more vigorously if the rootstock is matched to the soil. Or the rootstock can slow the vigor of a vigorous variety. It might be worth it if you are planting a large commercial vineyard, but you can get a lot of green cuttings this way and treat them to be disease free on your own. You can also get your own rootstock, increase it this way, and then graft your own vines. That might not be worth the work, though. I find there is disease anyway that will find your vines and you just have to have strong healthy vines.
I found a bunch of concord Grapes growing in the forest
Thankyou for this video! Question: does it make it any easier if you slightly scrape the bottoms of the cuttings before dipping them? It seems to me like that would allow the hormone to penetrate a bit better?
Edit: Also! How long do you leave the cuttings in the bucket before transplanting then to their final spot? Do you wait until there’s a specific amount of growth, or until a specific time of year after starting them?
I've never seen that suggested for grape cuttings but it might help. The only problem might be in promoting rot because it would create more dead tissue to breed bacteria and that might interfere with the grape cutting forming callous tissue. Might be worth a shot though to test it.
And you also can use raw honey as a rooting compound
You can also use Willow cuttings from a Willow tree because that's what aspirants are made from For your routine compound
Thank you so much. I am up north (Canada) and I have some Frontenac vines that I would like to propagate. Our winters are severe.
What would you suggest doing with the rooted cuttings the first year, ie as soon as they have rooted? You said you put them in a nursery row and then dig them up and plant them in the vineyard,the spring, but what would happen if I just plant them and let them grow in situ? I'm just not clear how to keep them through that first winter. Thanks again.
You could plant the cuttings directly, but I think putting them in a nursery row with really good soil is the best way to get them vigorous and develop a good root system. You also might no know which cuttings will survive the first year, and if you plant them out you will have weak cuttings and strong mixed together. If you plant a nursery row, you can select the biggest healthiest cuttings for the vineyard and they will like thrive.
Native unpastuerized honey makes an excellent rooting compound.
ive read alovera also, any idea?
so do you dip the shoots in honey then plant it?
The Winemaker My neighbour told me yesterday he does exactly that. Choose the shoot, strip a bit of the bottom to reveal the green, dip in honey and plant. I’ve not tried it but he swears by it. He has several Concord grape vines from this method.
Welll at last a video that has some great advice. I am an English man livining in Azerbijan and grapes are grown in just about every garden. I managed too get several cutings too root 2 years ago and this year they produced thier first grapes. I have taken some green cutings and will try your method. Can i use another medium as coconut core is not available here
Yes you can use anything organic that drains water easily but holds moisture. I've used peat moss or even rotten punky wood broken up into a fine medium.
With the cost of buying new grapevines, you could quickly save a fortune by using this method. You mentioned the price you paid was five dollars per vine, the vines I priced recently ( in 2022) we're twelve dollars each, so you can see, you could quickly save a great deal of money by rooting your cuttings.
Yep, depending on the variety, new vines can be much more expensive. Of course, this method doesn't work for grafted vines (though you could get a lot of rootstock going), which tend to be more expensive than own rooted vines.
You can go to Dollar Tree and pick up a bottle of aspirin put it in a coffee grinder and use that as rooting compound Because that is what rooting compound is made of For $1.25
You must live in a warm place. I’m propagating my grandfathers Concord grape vines from our farm’s 100 year old Concord grape vines. So awesome. But it’s a little different here on East Coast.
You are right though, not many good videos for this on RUclips.
As for thickness of vines, not “thicker the better” and not “closer nodes the better”. But the ones you have look good. 👍🏼
And on East Coast it would be last year’s growth, not “this years growth”. Just saying.
Great job.
These are green cuttings, which means this year's growth. Last year's growth would not be green cuttings, they would be dormant cuttings of last year's growth. There are tons of videos on dormant cuttings. The problem with them is that you have to wait until fall or early winter to take them and then wait all winter to plant them out. The entire point of this video is that it's about GREEN CUTTINGS. You take these in the middle of the season from THIS YEAR'S GROWTH and then root by the end of the season and are ready to plant out the following spring.
So, this is different from what you are talking about.
One question. When you leave the cuts in a bucket, did you leave them outside with the cover on, or did you leave inside? I've watched a few videos now and it's somewhat unclear where the cuts are kept, how much air/water they need, etc... The fact that you mentioned you went on a vacation added to my confusion. Thanks in advance.
I put them in the bucket with the lid on and leave them in a spot outside that will get light, but not direct sunlight. You don't want them to cook.
@@HardcoreSustainable Thanks a lot and your response is just in time! My vines almost have enough growth to give this a shot.