@@GenerationTechyour telling me qui gon had no skeletons? You don't get 20,000 dataries working as a jedi hence why Ashoka couldn't even afford decent transport I'm only semi series
Wasn't Obi-Wan a Padawan in the prequels? Was he supposed to be a child? I think he was supposed to be 25 and was played by an actor that was 26. As for Jecki. An article with the actor implies her character was 18 and the actor playing her is 19. Ahsoka in all fairness does appear to be a young girl and was played by an actor that was around 15 at the time, I don't remember them referencing her characters age. I don't think saying Padawans are just children is correct, only that they can be.
@@majortom2329 Yeah but you're forgetting that age doesn't correlate with Padawan status, Padawans became Jedi Knights when their Masters feel like they are ready for the trials to ascend to Knight status.
Not saying your analysis is any less plausible, but Dafne Keene gave an interview where she said that it was hard to get away from the raw and aggressive fight training from Logan. Apparently she couldn’t help screaming and being extra aggressive in which had the coordinators telling her to calm down and act more meditative and Jedi-like. Really glad she didn’t though, cause I think it really lends to how someone raw and inexperienced would fight in her situation.
Ironically her more aggressive attitude served her well, while the classically trained Jedi around her were getting carved up. Qymir wasn't bothered by regular Jedi, the same way Palpatine mowed down Masters and even a Grand Master but struggled against Windu, whose fighting style was designed to turn aggression back on the opponent.
I think you got it right. But also, what needs to be analysed is the final version of the text, film etc. So let us say, they wanted to do something in a specific way, and failed. We will not talk about their intention, but about the final product. Same applies here. The reason for it is what you mentioned, but when you take it in with the final version of how things play out, the analysis holds.
@@nikorex32 worth mentioning that Qimir is a stronger opponent than even Darth Maul, who struggled against just two Jedi, whereas both Qimir and Palpatine were able to fell large groups of Jedi Masters with relative ease. You can't help wondering if Sidious stunted Maul's training somehow to prevent him becoming a threat. Sidious clearly had no intention of ever letting any of his apprentices succeed him.
@@tompearce5418 Though no longer canon, there's a book about Plagueis and Palpatine (Legends), that indicates Plagueis knew about Maul (a few years after Palpatine acquired him as an infant) and told Palpatine not to train him as a true Sith lord - just teaching him fighting styles and combat. I'm most of the way through the book but, prior to Disney taking over the IP for Star Wars, this book was canon. The (now previous) intention was that Maul was to be a blunt instrument but still, for whatever reason, given the title of Darth even though he wasn't a Sith.
I could be tripping but I think it's kinda implied power made most of these Jedi sub par and because Jinn never stop training or learning about the force he and obi wan were a step above other knights and padawans
@@Ultraelectromagnetic I was just warming up to Yord too, for all of his confidence in the beginning when he went up against qmir he realized just how unprepared he was and his shock and fear was very well conveyed. He knew how unprepared he was but he still went back to help the others.
Jecki has such gremlin energy in this episode. I could totally see them doing a bit where someone approaches Sol to ask how training his padawan is going, to which he responds by raising an arm from behind his back, reveling Jecki holding on with here teeth and growling
@@thesnowbold1632 I also think that extended to the rest of the Jedi. They had a lot of training but no real combat experience and were caught off guard.
Honestly, I love this channel. Decent discussion on Star Wars and really astute commentary on mental health. We all need a mate like Allen! In the show, Jecki was a brilliantly realised character. I'm pretty sure that we'll continue to see amazing things from Dafne.
I really, really liked Jecki's little smile when her lightsaber came back on. Oh yeah, she was enjoying the fight. Her death bummed me. And that, similarly to early GOT, is one of the things I like about the show.
It really did me to. I wasn't sure how I felt about her from episode 1 but I was totally bummed out she got cut down to. I was hoping for her to be like anakin
@@ukmediawarrior yeah, its kinda sad that there was so much hate both from the people defending and the people criticizing the show even before it released, like, damn, its just a tv show lol
@@dib_human6151 It's more than that for people that grew up with these shows, it hurts seeing it being destroyed by agendas and horrible dialogue. Not to mention I am just disgusted at the sheer amount of money put into production yet THIS is the turnout? Its not good. Like many have said, one good episode does not redeem the past four.
@@hottomek7423 i agree its not the best show ever, and i respect those who dont like the show I mean, even if i like it, i wont defend it always because it has plenty of bad stuff Tho i think there was a lot of hate for the sake of hate, and maybe a bit too much drama for a simply alright show
@@Fuzzmo147 thats because it IS that way. Alan's copium consumation is at an all time high . Its not that she has no character, but this whole video is literaly making the story up instead of the writters. I dont think the show even wanted to send a message that Jecki is a powerful fighter or something.. they just wanted to give her more cool lightsaber scenes then others (for example yord) , and now alan has to find reasons why a "jedi scholar / book worm padawan" type character suddenly has extremely high level fighting skills
@@boletop6204Agreed. I understand wanting to be fair & having hope for something better, but ignoring the glaring problems with this show is how you get more bad shows! These people aren’t helping Star Wars by pretending this is great TV!
@@orokusaki1243 yeah.. and they showed us jecki doing the BASIC WOODEN STICK TRAINING with other kids.. and then they showed us jecki dual wielding and holding her own against a powerful sith who just killed 10 jedi without breaking a sweat
They had to get rid of her. Daphne Keene and Trinity were strategically cast there to support the main character. I'm seeing this more often with Companies when they cast black female characters. They realize nerds are super prejudiced and push their fantasy Girlfriends on posters for the promo. Michelle Yo was also pushed twice for The Witcher and Star Trek Fiscovery when she wasn't the main character
Jecki seems more of a 14/15 year old rather than a 12/13 year old. Remember, the High Republic Jedi were not threatened. Yord's padawan isn't seen after his first patrol. I think for Sol to take Jecki on these missions is very unusual. It sort of says she is the "Ahsoka" of her time (one of the more gifted padawans). None of the other Jedi in the rest of the Order seem to be operating the same way around the edges of the story. Heck, the only other master/padawan pairing we see is Indara and Torbin now that I think about it. And Torbin's definitely an older padawan when they confront the coven.
jecki is my favorite character in the series. i really felt it when she died, she had such a strong presence and personality and i expected to see more of her. i was shocked and sad.
There is also the Dafne Keen factor, she is a fantastic actress and fighter, I wish she was the lead actress. Dafne Keen would have been a savage Sith Acolyte.
I just have two points of criticism, but overall, I think your interpretation is very solid. 1. The original mission wasn't something dangerous. It was 7? Jedi serving guard duty for another, well-skilled Jedi Master. I don't think they were expecting combat. This is like when Yord brings his padawan onto the Trade Federation Ship. 2. While not perfect, there are outlets for emotion in the Jedi Order. The primary way is not combat, but actually meditation. It is meant to help Jedi clear the emotions from their mind. In addition, there are therapy services, (i.e. Jedi masters). Though I do have to agree, They are lacking. Jeki doesn't die because of that, though. It is because she is not adequately trained, sent on what was supposed to be an easy mission, and loses her mind when her whole team gets Killed. Fair given the circumstances, but not necessarily completely the Jedi's fault.
To be fair they were there to expect a known murderer who killed multiple Jedi already. Yes with 7 Jedi they probably weren’t expecting mich danger, but it’s still a dumb idea
Those hits were very tactical too. He struct both lungs(to make her unable to breath) and likely the heart then struck he her spine to make sure she couldn't retaliate in the last 2 seconds of her life by paralyzing her. When I was being taught advanced hand to hand combat we were taught to not go for a kill immediately but to take away the opponents ability to stand, breathe or see. Once they were disabled in some way and you had an advantage then you go choose how you wanted to handle them.
I usually root for the Sith and darksiders but Qimir really didn't need to do little Jecki like that. He could easily have chopped her legs off or something instead. SMH Sith do better.
thats a stretch imo, but we can expect some essays highlighting the shows interesting concepts and unrealised potential as well as fan edits that improve on the execution
Well this video will be made by the same stupid people that enjoy the sequels. The majority of the fan base will never like this crap. But if you're into lesbian witches that create kids by "the power of many" then good for you consumer.
Sol: She was a child! Qimir: You brought her here. This really highlights one of the greatest flaws of the Jedi: blaming everyone else for the predicable consequences of their own actions.
8:33 That is an amazing close up when he smiles at her. In my opinion you don't usually see transcendent acting like that in "Star Wars". I forget the name of the actor, but his ability to emote sincere kindness and warmth is exceptional. It was one of the early moments that sold the show for me.
yea i really liked that scene too Lee Jung Jae is great, i'm gonna be disappointed tho if he turns out to be a monster. You should check out Andor, the acting is even better than this show, and its very consistently. There are at least 4 performances in that tv show that are at his level.
I am enjoying it as well. To be honest, right now it is competing with Andor for the top spot on my list. The Mandalorian would be higher if Grogu did not come back.
when you said a dropkick can land you on your hip as we saw with jecki later she is kicked on the same place she landed and is kinda stund by it. kinda cool to see after you said it
After she bashed Qimir's helmet off, Jecki came at him yelling in rage and then he killed her. Her emotions were her undoing...as The Jedi taught and feared. Not many picked up on that.
My dad is a casual Star Wars fan from the sidelines, like he just watched the movies this last year. And even he is like yeah, it’s an alright show, especially if you’ve only seen the movies. Like there isn’t a crazy amount of lore you need like Ashoka.
It's crazy too that people are trying to politicize the show, when there aren't really any political commentary. Or the very least not any, surface level wise. That's probably the biggest crime with this show, is it being mid.
I gave The Acolyte a shot and got attached to Jecki. I thought she had a bright future as a Jedi Knight ahead of her. I don't think I was this sad since Order 66. Edit: Yo, I was sad, why's there a fuckin' argument in the comments? Respectfully, cut the shit. Thanks.
The only way the show can stay consistent with the lore, is for every jedi that saw quimir to die. Including osha, Mae, and sol. Terrible writing. The whole plot is a cover-up. Wooo*sarcasm*
@@AskTheRightQuestion88 Its the "hows" and "whys" that are attractive to people. And as you say, the whole plot is a cover-up. That group is certainly not reporting to the high council, though now that 7 Jedi have died on a mission, there's gonna be more intrigue. Osha, if she's still alive, is now beholden to Qimir's plans - she's either gotta impersonate her sister in return, or "something else".
i barely comment on any videos but this guy has been my favorite youtuber for the past 3 years. i’ve binged most of his videos and i can genuinely say i’m glad to be a star wars fan with Generation Tech around. thanks for your positivity and commitment towards the community. it means alot when a lot of my past favorite youtubers have gone down a rabbit hole with hating on a franchise for the clicks so again, thanks for being you Mr. Tech.
The main thing to remember is that they were after Mae and sent like 7 Knights and 1 Padawan. They feared it was a rogue Jedi that was training Mae. It wasn't supposed to be that 1 Padawan fighting a possible Sith Lord. Age-wise, Jecki is allegedly supposed to be about 18. So, she had no involvement in the issue on Brendok. That's not to say that the Jedi haven't sent Sol and Jecki on other missions that may be nearly as scandalous. For sure emotion is fore in her mind, so she would see it as fore in everyone's mind. It is too bad that the Jedi were taught to suppress their emotions instead of control them. "Thought police" is usually a dystopian concept. Definitely was emotional vs Mae and then vs Qimir. That smirk when she went into jar'kai mode was clearly overconfidence. She did get quite aggressive and even had uttered a battle cry in the moment before she became a pincushion. As Yord said, "he gets into your head, and stays there". Qimir was certainly clouding and twisting everyone there, evoking and stoking their emotions so as to fuel himself even more (or at least unbalance the Jedi). Combine that with Jecki's innate passions and emotions, and she was bound to mess up sooner or later.
Hard disagree on checking your emotions, depends on how you check them. Emotional suppression is not a good way to check your emotions but have you ever been around someone that doesn’t check their emotions? They are unhinged. Interrogating your emotions, being introspective, and talking to others about how you feel is a good way to check them.
Dude, Andor and the Mandalorian seasons 1&2 are great, but the Bad Batch is the best Star Wars show they’ve made so far, all 3 seasons. I have to look and see if you’ve made any videos about the at show. If you haven’t, you definitely should, mate.
@@GenerationTechDefinitely going to watch those vids! I may not always agree with you, Allen, but I love hearing your opinions and takes. They’re fair and honest, and well thought out. That’s rare in the Star Wars discourse.
Brilliant, finally a person with common sense who doesn't ride the popular wave of hate. And the golden sentence that when children are taken, sometimes the parents' house catches fire... this is pure gold. I'm clapping. Excellent analysis.😍
I really love what they did with Jecki's character, and I love your character analysis. I wish she lived longer, but I'm glad she got a memorable Star Wars death. Her fighting skills reminded me so much of whenever Anakin tapped into his anger. I saw a lot of that with Jecki.
Hey generation tech, I noticed in some of your vids you are tired and I get it’s hard . Thank you for keeping a positive mindset and for keeping the star wars fandom a better place 👍🏻❤️
Hi Generation Tech - I was on the fence about watching this show because of all the drama BUT I took the plunge and decided to marathon the first 5 episodes WITHOUT having all the outside drama from all sides. I do have to say, I actually liked the show. If you can close out what's going on surrounding this show and go in with an open mind and just watch a show, I did actually wind up liking it and enjoy it. I will leave my crits surrounding the show out the door and just enjoy it for what it is. Your videos are awesome and love watching how you breakdown each show. Thank you and keep it up!!!!
@@comedy9.080It's "canon" not cannon. And Acolyte is canon whether you like it or not. You don't have to like the Disney era...there's nothing wrong with that...but on the flip side, people are allowed to like it, without being told they shouldn't. You don't speak for all fans, even all OG ones. You'll still have your OT and nothing can change that.
@@kaygee2121 dude talks like the og fans haven't hated everything since the first 2 movies came out lmao, god star wars fans that think they speak for everyone are absolutely wasting oxygen. I'm honestly about to stop reading comment sections cause it's mind numbing how loud and stupid some of these people are.
@@kaygee2121 only people who enjoy the acolyte are people who don’t know how to follow a story or S/O’s that should be placed on neighborhood watch. The director most definitely should.
Yet another brilliant video essay and this time around centered on Jecki. And now I’m depressed all over again. You were a real one, Padawan. MTFBWY, Jecki Lon.
I really like how this show largely functions as a referendum on the baseline moral values of the Jedi. When Sol says to Qirim (sp?), "She was a child," and he responds, "You brought her," that's really powerful. I always personally felt it was ethically gray how the Jedi essentially baby snatch, I'm glad to see a show exploring this.
Well put! And he was absolutely correct in throwing that into Sol's face. It's pretty obvious that Sol knows something that hasn't been revealed yet, and it's going to be pretty damned dark, if previous episodes are anything to go by. Unlike many of my Gen-X peers, I'm really enjoying this series, and I'll defend that viewpoint like I did my love for the Prequels when they were released and my peers lost their shit over my views on those movies. The Jedi, even during this era (the High Republic) are/were flawed, and it's never been really brought up, until now. Even during the OT, it was kinda illuded to, but always "glossed over".
YT HID YOU FROM ME!!! IVE BEEN LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR VIDS, AND IM JUST NOW ON THIS VID SEEING YOU ON MY RECOMMENDATION. Big fan, (thats why i even noticed) and i recommend looking into it on YTs end.
Of the first five episodes, this is by far the best. To be brutally honest as a fan since the very beginning of SW. This the worst written of any SW project yet. But! It is original writing, unlike the last three movies, which I found to be a giant F.U. to the original trilogy. Jecki Lon was the best character except perhaps her master. The main star of the show, the twins, the actress can't act at all, and I find the writing to just be all over the place. I actually enjoy episode 5 much more after watching this Video Alan, thank you for that. By the way I always thought the perfect Jedi would be an Droid with a High Midi count...No Emotions at all, perfectly programmed to be the ultimate Jedi code walker...
I get a master might not know how dangerous a mission could end up being and being a Padawan is being in a mentorship program until you’re ready to be a Knight. But The fact that any and all of this was missions to hunt down a Jedi killer, a killer of a Jedi Master should have made this too dangerous and too high stakes for a Padawan to be a part of. Another side of the hypocrisy by Sol too. Jecki is seemingly old enough to take a life, but not lose her life.
@@trainknut It doesn't make sense...why have a no-fly zone when you're in the middle of the most prosperous, peaceful time in history with the last major conflict ~900 years ago...and during the most intense conflict in 1000 years (prequels), you have unlimited traffic? Shoddy VFX.
Jekki has been my favorite character so far, and I couldnt be happier that she died. I am sad that we wont be seeing that incredible actor anymore, but a story without stakes is boring, and Jekki died like a badass
Also, theres a reason sol is so chill and wise. People who have made mistakes with catrosophic consequences, whom truely regret their mistakes, often can be the best people, if they cant accept inside them their short commings.
Im hoping so badly they reveal she survived. Tho if you look at where the stabs landed, its kidney areas and beside the spine. I hope they reveal she just passed out but osga heals her or something 😢
What i was meaning is there is potential that they reveal the wounds didnt strike anything too deadly. Pelagius has three hearts and plays dead in the book, so why couldn't they say Osha wakes up and heals jecki?
Dang, you watched the crap out of this show! Thanks for making such a thoughtful video. I appreciate a lot more about The Acolyte after finding your channel. (You got me rewatching the whole series now lol)
I’m glad you spoke about men and their emotions. You are respected, and people pay attention to what you say. A man who can express their emotions in a positive manner knows that it doesn’t detract from their masculinity in any way. You mentioned ways to release the stress of emotions, but being able to express them is very important, too.
I love Star Wars, but I'm not a die-hard. Why do some people compare the Acolyte to the prequels and sequels when they are two different eras? You can't compare the US government of the 1950s to today, even though judging by some channels they want to go back but that is a whole other topic
i think the comparison to the prequels is a little better because its about a hundred years difference. But actually you do have a good point, a century is a long time. It used to be the star wars galaxy was more stagnant but now it seems like the changes are a bit more noticeable
Y’all are insufferable, you don’t like how someone feels about the show so you assume they want to go back to 1950s America because of their supposed “racist” and “sexist” views.
jecki Lon was 18 so she was crossing the threshold from child to adult chronologically . She was intellectual mature But you can see how the Jedi experience was holding her back on emotional maturity.
Master Sol is to blame for her death as much as she is. His padawan leapt down and carried out a nearly minute long duel and he simply stood on a ledge and watched. He is also to blame for Yords death as he remained on the outskirts as Yord attacked.
Jeckie was pretty cool. She was kind and competant. She didnt take it personally when sol still had an attachment to osha. Jeckie also forced yord to be lighten up a bit. I didnt expect her to die so soon. She had a lot of skill for a padawan.
“Empire strikes back show now respect for the LORE!!!!! Darth killed Luke father why are they changing it now to he is Anakin!!! These hacks show no respect for the lore and are just changing things to make their one mark!!!!!” Modern Starwars fan if they watched Empire strikes back today.
Jecki should've been sent back to the ship, maybe to alert the Jedi and or request assistance; she was too young for combat and her death achieved nothing, also he story arc had much more latent in it. Sol should've taken the lead, as he was the most experienced in combat.
Another very thoughtful, well written analysis. I agree that we need to wait until the end of the season to judge the whole work product. It would be like fans getting up during the first screening of A New Hope and leaving the theatre because one of the major characters was a fur covered being who couldn't even speak English! We just finished Act 5 of an 8 Act play. And its a murder mystery for crying out loud! We have to wait until Poirot, uh, I mean Sol calls everyone togther and announces who the killer is.
Jecki is what happens when Ashoka doesn’t have plot armor.
so true
And sol is qui gon with skeletons in his closet
@@GenerationTechyour telling me qui gon had no skeletons? You don't get 20,000 dataries working as a jedi hence why Ashoka couldn't even afford decent transport I'm only semi series
If Boromir was a Jedi, he would be asking her, “First time? I got shot thrice.”
@@yxngwood6536 if i remember qui gon did have a apprentice go to the darkside but it was legends
I like Jecki death and the Ahsoka Clone Wars flashbacks because it really drives home the fact that padawans are just children.
Wasn't Obi-Wan a Padawan in the prequels? Was he supposed to be a child? I think he was supposed to be 25 and was played by an actor that was 26.
As for Jecki. An article with the actor implies her character was 18 and the actor playing her is 19.
Ahsoka in all fairness does appear to be a young girl and was played by an actor that was around 15 at the time, I don't remember them referencing her characters age. I don't think saying Padawans are just children is correct, only that they can be.
@@majortom2329older teenagers-young adults ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@majortom2329 They literally call her a child in the show. Dont be so nitpicky
@@majortom2329 Yeah but you're forgetting that age doesn't correlate with Padawan status, Padawans became Jedi Knights when their Masters feel like they are ready for the trials to ascend to Knight status.
@@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrectedyes, 18 is young, and a “child” in most eyes, but that’s the age we send them to war today.
Not saying your analysis is any less plausible, but Dafne Keene gave an interview where she said that it was hard to get away from the raw and aggressive fight training from Logan. Apparently she couldn’t help screaming and being extra aggressive in which had the coordinators telling her to calm down and act more meditative and Jedi-like. Really glad she didn’t though, cause I think it really lends to how someone raw and inexperienced would fight in her situation.
Ironically her more aggressive attitude served her well, while the classically trained Jedi around her were getting carved up. Qymir wasn't bothered by regular Jedi, the same way Palpatine mowed down Masters and even a Grand Master but struggled against Windu, whose fighting style was designed to turn aggression back on the opponent.
I think you got it right. But also, what needs to be analysed is the final version of the text, film etc. So let us say, they wanted to do something in a specific way, and failed. We will not talk about their intention, but about the final product. Same applies here. The reason for it is what you mentioned, but when you take it in with the final version of how things play out, the analysis holds.
@@nikorex32 worth mentioning that Qimir is a stronger opponent than even Darth Maul, who struggled against just two Jedi, whereas both Qimir and Palpatine were able to fell large groups of Jedi Masters with relative ease. You can't help wondering if Sidious stunted Maul's training somehow to prevent him becoming a threat. Sidious clearly had no intention of ever letting any of his apprentices succeed him.
@@tompearce5418 Though no longer canon, there's a book about Plagueis and Palpatine (Legends), that indicates Plagueis knew about Maul (a few years after Palpatine acquired him as an infant) and told Palpatine not to train him as a true Sith lord - just teaching him fighting styles and combat. I'm most of the way through the book but, prior to Disney taking over the IP for Star Wars, this book was canon.
The (now previous) intention was that Maul was to be a blunt instrument but still, for whatever reason, given the title of Darth even though he wasn't a Sith.
I could be tripping but I think it's kinda implied power made most of these Jedi sub par and because Jinn never stop training or learning about the force he and obi wan were a step above other knights and padawans
She was becoming my favorite character in the show. I'm still devastated.
Amen :)
@@Ultraelectromagnetic I was just warming up to Yord too, for all of his confidence in the beginning when he went up against qmir he realized just how unprepared he was and his shock and fear was very well conveyed.
He knew how unprepared he was but he still went back to help the others.
I will miss her character too. It would be amazing if they show her survive. I want to see more of her! However i understand how unlikely that is
We need T-shirts:
Somehow
Jecki
Survived
@paradoxworkshop4659 id wear it. I want her to survive so bad!
Jecki has such gremlin energy in this episode.
I could totally see them doing a bit where someone approaches Sol to ask how training his padawan is going, to which he responds by raising an arm from behind his back, reveling Jecki holding on with here teeth and growling
😬🤣
Lol
Jekki = Darth Maul in the sense that they were the coolest thing on screen and were killed off too early.
I think Jecki’s greatest issue was not having the experience necessary to know when not to attack…
If only she had listened to Jedi Master Gingere. It's spelled differently so it's okay. Ask Master Sol (Seoul), it's fine.
I’d say that about the rest of the Jedi in their platoon…
But none of them really do
Spot on!
@@thesnowbold1632 I also think that extended to the rest of the Jedi. They had a lot of training but no real combat experience and were caught off guard.
Honestly, I love this channel. Decent discussion on Star Wars and really astute commentary on mental health. We all need a mate like Allen! In the show, Jecki was a brilliantly realised character. I'm pretty sure that we'll continue to see amazing things from Dafne.
I really, really liked Jecki's little smile when her lightsaber came back on. Oh yeah, she was enjoying the fight. Her death bummed me. And that, similarly to early GOT, is one of the things I like about the show.
It really did me to. I wasn't sure how I felt about her from episode 1 but I was totally bummed out she got cut down to. I was hoping for her to be like anakin
one does not simply be Sean Bean, and expect to live til the end of the story
The irony here is Qimir is looking for someone to train and he might have killed his best option…
@@GenerationTech LOL.
@@Dreadkid08 I may be paraphrasing here, but it gets the gist of it. "This is what a good apprentice looks like. She's loyal."
I hope Jecki was hiding the fact that her vital organs were in her feet
For once I'd be totally onboard with any ridiculous excuse for a character to survive certain death!
she still got stabbed in at least one of her other organs though, just like Qui Gon, who also died without being stabbed in a vital spot.
They better be
The last time i was this early, the Acolyte was getting hate before it released
So true, Lucasfilm just can't stop using hate against the fans before their shows air.
@@ukmediawarrior yeah, its kinda sad that there was so much hate both from the people defending and the people criticizing the show even before it released, like, damn, its just a tv show lol
@@dib_human6151 It's more than that for people that grew up with these shows, it hurts seeing it being destroyed by agendas and horrible dialogue. Not to mention I am just disgusted at the sheer amount of money put into production yet THIS is the turnout? Its not good. Like many have said, one good episode does not redeem the past four.
People read through the lines and people were right shit was awful even before it aired it really was deserved.
@@hottomek7423 i agree its not the best show ever, and i respect those who dont like the show
I mean, even if i like it, i wont defend it always because it has plenty of bad stuff
Tho i think there was a lot of hate for the sake of hate, and maybe a bit too much drama for a simply alright show
Media literacy must be at an all time low based off how many people I’ve seen say she was bland and had no character
She reminded me of Hermione
@@Fuzzmo147 thats because it IS that way. Alan's copium consumation is at an all time high . Its not that she has no character, but this whole video is literaly making the story up instead of the writters. I dont think the show even wanted to send a message that Jecki is a powerful fighter or something.. they just wanted to give her more cool lightsaber scenes then others (for example yord) , and now alan has to find reasons why a "jedi scholar / book worm padawan" type character suddenly has extremely high level fighting skills
@@boletop6204Agreed. I understand wanting to be fair & having hope for something better, but ignoring the glaring problems with this show is how you get more bad shows! These people aren’t helping Star Wars by pretending this is great TV!
@@boletop6204 "show don't tell"
@@orokusaki1243 yeah.. and they showed us jecki doing the BASIC WOODEN STICK TRAINING with other kids.. and then they showed us jecki dual wielding and holding her own against a powerful sith who just killed 10 jedi without breaking a sweat
What was Jecki hiding? She had to go so she could cameo in Deadpool and Wolverine 😂
LMAO Great comment
BRO WHAT. I HAD NO CLUE SHE ALSO PLAYED IN LOGAN THATS CRAZY. The makeup really changes her appearance completely
It would be awesome to see her in that role again. She kicked ass in Logan....so feral
@@schanataylor2067 for real. Honestly Jecki portrays some of that feral attitude during her fight with Smilo ren
She deserves to be main cast.
Jedi Hermione was becoming a really interesting character.
Jecki, being a hybrid, probably feels isolated among her peers and craves acceptance.
Episode 5 was a turning point for me. I was enjoying it passively until then but now I’m really interested to see how it’s gonna go
Every time I hear Vernesta I can’t help but hear Nebula from Guardians of the Galaxy. It’s not a bad performance but it’s all I can think about.
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thats exactly what "a bad performance" is
Just look at Barris Offee she completely lost it due to the trauma she faced during the clone wars.
You're right. Losing Jecki kinda felt like that time we lost Ned Stark in season 1 of GoT. Surprised and gut wrenching. I really liked her charachter.
They had to get rid of her. Daphne Keene and Trinity were strategically cast there to support the main character. I'm seeing this more often with Companies when they cast black female characters. They realize nerds are super prejudiced and push their fantasy Girlfriends on posters for the promo. Michelle Yo was also pushed twice for The Witcher and Star Trek Fiscovery when she wasn't the main character
Jecki seems more of a 14/15 year old rather than a 12/13 year old. Remember, the High Republic Jedi were not threatened. Yord's padawan isn't seen after his first patrol. I think for Sol to take Jecki on these missions is very unusual. It sort of says she is the "Ahsoka" of her time (one of the more gifted padawans). None of the other Jedi in the rest of the Order seem to be operating the same way around the edges of the story.
Heck, the only other master/padawan pairing we see is Indara and Torbin now that I think about it. And Torbin's definitely an older padawan when they confront the coven.
I will miss Jecki. We didn't have her for very long but she made a great impact and I really enjoyed her character.
16:37 Jecki is too precious. She'll always be that mini wolverine from the Logan film lol.
jecki is my favorite character in the series. i really felt it when she died, she had such a strong presence and personality and i expected to see more of her. i was shocked and sad.
Same. I want it to turn out she survived so bad!😢
There is also the Dafne Keen factor, she is a fantastic actress and fighter, I wish she was the lead actress. Dafne Keen would have been a savage Sith Acolyte.
I just have two points of criticism, but overall, I think your interpretation is very solid.
1. The original mission wasn't something dangerous. It was 7? Jedi serving guard duty for another, well-skilled Jedi Master. I don't think they were expecting combat. This is like when Yord brings his padawan onto the Trade Federation Ship.
2. While not perfect, there are outlets for emotion in the Jedi Order. The primary way is not combat, but actually meditation. It is meant to help Jedi clear the emotions from their mind. In addition, there are therapy services, (i.e. Jedi masters). Though I do have to agree, They are lacking. Jeki doesn't die because of that, though. It is because she is not adequately trained, sent on what was supposed to be an easy mission, and loses her mind when her whole team gets Killed. Fair given the circumstances, but not necessarily completely the Jedi's fault.
To be fair they were there to expect a known murderer who killed multiple Jedi already. Yes with 7 Jedi they probably weren’t expecting mich danger, but it’s still a dumb idea
@@wildwaters8348 Seven Jedi and a Jedi Master. Keep In Mind that Master Sol had Fought Osha before and easily defeated her.
You gotta feel bad for Jiord’s Padawan for losing her Master
Those hits were very tactical too. He struct both lungs(to make her unable to breath) and likely the heart then struck he her spine to make sure she couldn't retaliate in the last 2 seconds of her life by paralyzing her. When I was being taught advanced hand to hand combat we were taught to not go for a kill immediately but to take away the opponents ability to stand, breathe or see. Once they were disabled in some way and you had an advantage then you go choose how you wanted to handle them.
I usually root for the Sith and darksiders but Qimir really didn't need to do little Jecki like that. He could easily have chopped her legs off or something instead. SMH Sith do better.
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Can't wait to see a video essay titled "The Acolyte was kinda great" in 10 years
thats a stretch imo, but we can expect some essays highlighting the shows interesting concepts and unrealised potential as well as fan edits that improve on the execution
It won't take ten years. Once the right-wing RUclips grift goes out of fashion, people will re-evaluate "The Acolyte" and many other things.
Did they ever do that with the sequel movies? At least with Andor people actually liked it
Well this video will be made by the same stupid people that enjoy the sequels. The majority of the fan base will never like this crap. But if you're into lesbian witches that create kids by "the power of many" then good for you consumer.
Yes the video essays describing the hidden meaning of the “power of one power of two the power of mannnnyyyyyyyyyy” will be incredible. Lol
Sol: She was a child!
Qimir: You brought her here.
This really highlights one of the greatest flaws of the Jedi: blaming everyone else for the predicable consequences of their own actions.
Regular people do that all the time..Hear it everyday at the hospital
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That is an amazing close up when he smiles at her.
In my opinion you don't usually see transcendent acting like that in "Star Wars". I forget the name of the actor, but his ability to emote sincere kindness and warmth is exceptional. It was one of the early moments that sold the show for me.
yea i really liked that scene too Lee Jung Jae is great, i'm gonna be disappointed tho if he turns out to be a monster. You should check out Andor, the acting is even better than this show, and its very consistently. There are at least 4 performances in that tv show that are at his level.
I am a 47-year fan of Star Wars, and I love The Acolyte. 😊❤👍
I'm 48 and I'm with you , it's better than Book of Boba and Kenobi
I'm 53 and I am loving it too.
I am enjoying it as well. To be honest, right now it is competing with Andor for the top spot on my list. The Mandalorian would be higher if Grogu did not come back.
when you said a dropkick can land you on your hip as we saw with jecki later she is kicked on the same place she landed and is kinda stund by it. kinda cool to see after you said it
After she bashed Qimir's helmet off, Jecki came at him yelling in rage and then he killed her. Her emotions were her undoing...as The Jedi taught and feared. Not many picked up on that.
Your commentary really hit the mark with this one. This is why you’re my fav SW tuber.
I was about to say the same thing
“Your” and “you’re” aren’t the same thing
@@harperprutch4437no he should have been honest and said this further proves how bad the writing
@@fclefjefff4041 Thanks for the correction.
My dad is a casual Star Wars fan from the sidelines, like he just watched the movies this last year.
And even he is like yeah, it’s an alright show, especially if you’ve only seen the movies. Like there isn’t a crazy amount of lore you need like Ashoka.
It's crazy too that people are trying to politicize the show, when there aren't really any political commentary. Or the very least not any, surface level wise. That's probably the biggest crime with this show, is it being mid.
I gave The Acolyte a shot and got attached to Jecki.
I thought she had a bright future as a Jedi Knight ahead of her.
I don't think I was this sad since Order 66.
Edit: Yo, I was sad, why's there a fuckin' argument in the comments? Respectfully, cut the shit. Thanks.
Same I liked Jecki too
The only way the show can stay consistent with the lore, is for every jedi that saw quimir to die. Including osha, Mae, and sol. Terrible writing. The whole plot is a cover-up. Wooo*sarcasm*
They managed to kill the only interesting character in the whole show.
I really liked the dynamic between Jecki And Yord. Then they both died. I fr just stared at a wall with my mouth open for like 5 mins.
@@AskTheRightQuestion88 Its the "hows" and "whys" that are attractive to people.
And as you say, the whole plot is a cover-up. That group is certainly not reporting to the high council, though now that 7 Jedi have died on a mission, there's gonna be more intrigue. Osha, if she's still alive, is now beholden to Qimir's plans - she's either gotta impersonate her sister in return, or "something else".
i barely comment on any videos but this guy has been my favorite youtuber for the past 3 years. i’ve binged most of his videos and i can genuinely say i’m glad to be a star wars fan with Generation Tech around. thanks for your positivity and commitment towards the community. it means alot when a lot of my past favorite youtubers have gone down a rabbit hole with hating on a franchise for the clicks so again, thanks for being you Mr. Tech.
@@rumlr8851 same! I put on his videos and just let them play on auto sometimes. GT and Star Wars Meg are my go-tos.
The main thing to remember is that they were after Mae and sent like 7 Knights and 1 Padawan. They feared it was a rogue Jedi that was training Mae. It wasn't supposed to be that 1 Padawan fighting a possible Sith Lord.
Age-wise, Jecki is allegedly supposed to be about 18. So, she had no involvement in the issue on Brendok. That's not to say that the Jedi haven't sent Sol and Jecki on other missions that may be nearly as scandalous.
For sure emotion is fore in her mind, so she would see it as fore in everyone's mind. It is too bad that the Jedi were taught to suppress their emotions instead of control them. "Thought police" is usually a dystopian concept.
Definitely was emotional vs Mae and then vs Qimir. That smirk when she went into jar'kai mode was clearly overconfidence. She did get quite aggressive and even had uttered a battle cry in the moment before she became a pincushion.
As Yord said, "he gets into your head, and stays there". Qimir was certainly clouding and twisting everyone there, evoking and stoking their emotions so as to fuel himself even more (or at least unbalance the Jedi). Combine that with Jecki's innate passions and emotions, and she was bound to mess up sooner or later.
Hard disagree on checking your emotions, depends on how you check them. Emotional suppression is not a good way to check your emotions but have you ever been around someone that doesn’t check their emotions? They are unhinged.
Interrogating your emotions, being introspective, and talking to others about how you feel is a good way to check them.
maybe my video didn't come off that way but i definitely agree. This video was more about the culture of suppression in the jedi its out of control
Dude, Andor and the Mandalorian seasons 1&2 are great, but the Bad Batch is the best Star Wars show they’ve made so far, all 3 seasons. I have to look and see if you’ve made any videos about the at show.
If you haven’t, you definitely should, mate.
Oh we covered every episode of that show 😂 91 episodes in the playlist
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@@GenerationTechDefinitely going to watch those vids! I may not always agree with you, Allen, but I love hearing your opinions and takes. They’re fair and honest, and well thought out. That’s rare in the Star Wars discourse.
Brilliant, finally a person with common sense who doesn't ride the popular wave of hate. And the golden sentence that when children are taken, sometimes the parents' house catches fire... this is pure gold. I'm clapping. Excellent analysis.😍
Who ever casted jeki without plot armor is a Jar Jar bunk !!
Part of me is still hoping they reveal she survived tbh
Nice room in Coruscant. Perfect for any streamer.
Rent must be so high there
I think that's lothal, or.... it's too early I can't remember organas home world
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I'm wondering who gave him the credits for a room with such a nice view tho. Maybe a dolphin payoff
@@nikiong66 maybe he is trading spice or some other clandestine thing. Those credits are no easy task
I liked Jekki as a character, and I think her death was fitting for the story and handled well.
"she was a child"
"You brought her here. Faith in your apprentice, misplaced it was"
I really love what they did with Jecki's character, and I love your character analysis. I wish she lived longer, but I'm glad she got a memorable Star Wars death.
Her fighting skills reminded me so much of whenever Anakin tapped into his anger. I saw a lot of that with Jecki.
Hey generation tech, I noticed in some of your vids you are tired and I get it’s hard . Thank you for keeping a positive mindset and for keeping the star wars fandom a better place 👍🏻❤️
Hi Generation Tech - I was on the fence about watching this show because of all the drama BUT I took the plunge and decided to marathon the first 5 episodes WITHOUT having all the outside drama from all sides. I do have to say, I actually liked the show. If you can close out what's going on surrounding this show and go in with an open mind and just watch a show, I did actually wind up liking it and enjoy it. I will leave my crits surrounding the show out the door and just enjoy it for what it is. Your videos are awesome and love watching how you breakdown each show. Thank you and keep it up!!!!
Yeah nobody is gonna really accept this into cannon OG fans just gonna ignore these statements from now on
@@comedy9.080It's "canon" not cannon. And Acolyte is canon whether you like it or not. You don't have to like the Disney era...there's nothing wrong with that...but on the flip side, people are allowed to like it, without being told they shouldn't. You don't speak for all fans, even all OG ones. You'll still have your OT and nothing can change that.
@@kaygee2121 dude talks like the og fans haven't hated everything since the first 2 movies came out lmao, god star wars fans that think they speak for everyone are absolutely wasting oxygen. I'm honestly about to stop reading comment sections cause it's mind numbing how loud and stupid some of these people are.
@@kaygee2121 only people who enjoy the acolyte are ones who don’t know how to follow a story or just straight up sex offenders.
@@kaygee2121 only people who enjoy the acolyte are people who don’t know how to follow a story or S/O’s that should be placed on neighborhood watch. The director most definitely should.
I love your new background. Can't wait to see more epic locations
Thank you for making sensible content, it is a breath of fresh air compared to some of the "other" SW channels.
This is hands down the best commentary and I have come across my Star Wars episode or movie thank you
For the average straight person, being homosexual is weird? What are you talking about?
Great analysis as always my friend! Keep up the great work!
Yet another brilliant video essay and this time around centered on Jecki. And now I’m depressed all over again. You were a real one, Padawan. MTFBWY, Jecki Lon.
at least we have a star wars where characters actually die again.
I really like how this show largely functions as a referendum on the baseline moral values of the Jedi. When Sol says to Qirim (sp?), "She was a child," and he responds, "You brought her," that's really powerful.
I always personally felt it was ethically gray how the Jedi essentially baby snatch, I'm glad to see a show exploring this.
Well put! And he was absolutely correct in throwing that into Sol's face. It's pretty obvious that Sol knows something that hasn't been revealed yet, and it's going to be pretty damned dark, if previous episodes are anything to go by. Unlike many of my Gen-X peers, I'm really enjoying this series, and I'll defend that viewpoint like I did my love for the Prequels when they were released and my peers lost their shit over my views on those movies.
The Jedi, even during this era (the High Republic) are/were flawed, and it's never been really brought up, until now. Even during the OT, it was kinda illuded to, but always "glossed over".
Keep up the positive videos. I'm enjoying the show & your breakdowns always give me something to think about.
Thanks
I wouldn't even be mad if Jecki had a Reva comback. I just love her, and feel like her character wasn't explored enough. We NEED cyborg Jecki
I love that Alan just casually says that he drop kicked people twice in relating to Jecki, says it sucks, and then just moves on 😂😂😂
I like how Jecki did have a soft spot for Osha. I rewatched it with my sister and we definitely shipped it until, you know. The stapling. 😂
"she was a child"
Grogu - "hold my beer..."
I was bummed when she died. She was actually one of my favorite characters. Definitely after watching her fight.
Jecki was born in 250BBY, making her 18 when she died.
That would have to be 150BBY not 250, to line up with the Acolyte's timeline relative to other High Republic events.
That's right, my bad.
YT HID YOU FROM ME!!! IVE BEEN LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR VIDS, AND IM JUST NOW ON THIS VID SEEING YOU ON MY RECOMMENDATION. Big fan, (thats why i even noticed) and i recommend looking into it on YTs end.
Always appreciate your way of tying in deeper real world meaning to the themes of star wars, Allen!
I really appreciate this thoughtful video!
Of the first five episodes, this is by far the best. To be brutally honest as a fan since the very beginning of SW. This the worst written of any SW project yet. But! It is original writing, unlike the last three movies, which I found to be a giant F.U. to the original trilogy. Jecki Lon was the best character except perhaps her master. The main star of the show, the twins, the actress can't act at all, and I find the writing to just be all over the place. I actually enjoy episode 5 much more after watching this Video Alan, thank you for that. By the way I always thought the perfect Jedi would be an Droid with a High Midi count...No Emotions at all, perfectly programmed to be the ultimate Jedi code walker...
I get a master might not know how dangerous a mission could end up being and being a Padawan is being in a mentorship program until you’re ready to be a Knight. But The fact that any and all of this was missions to hunt down a Jedi killer, a killer of a Jedi Master should have made this too dangerous and too high stakes for a Padawan to be a part of.
Another side of the hypocrisy by Sol too. Jecki is seemingly old enough to take a life, but not lose her life.
I love Jecki so much and I am still in denial after what happened,,, in my heart she is still here
I love this deep dive into the characters of this show!
There’s more traffic outside Alan’s room than there is flying around the Jedi temple…
Maybe he spent $181 million
To be fair the Jedi probably had some kind of "no fly zone" around the temple... seems like exactly the kind of bureaucratic shit they would do
@@trainknut But there was no traffic at all in the scenes of the temple...it was nowhere to be seen.
@@kfeltenberger that sounds exactly like a no fly zone
@@trainknut It doesn't make sense...why have a no-fly zone when you're in the middle of the most prosperous, peaceful time in history with the last major conflict ~900 years ago...and during the most intense conflict in 1000 years (prequels), you have unlimited traffic?
Shoddy VFX.
Jekki has been my favorite character so far, and I couldnt be happier that she died. I am sad that we wont be seeing that incredible actor anymore, but a story without stakes is boring, and Jekki died like a badass
thank you for exploring the nuance of Dafne Keens performance.
One of your best videos yet!
I feel like Jecki was totally using the Dark Side in that last battle, she was going full berserk on Qimir.
She's not Ziggy Stardust, she's a Secretary bird.
Also, theres a reason sol is so chill and wise. People who have made mistakes with catrosophic consequences, whom truely regret their mistakes, often can be the best people, if they cant accept inside them their short commings.
Awesome video. Jecki was my favorite character from the Acolyte, apreciate this deep dive on her
"This is what Anakin tries to use against Dooku in AotC, and things get out of hand for him immediately. "
Nice
Does she have the same anatomy as humans ❓
Im hoping so badly they reveal she survived. Tho if you look at where the stabs landed, its kidney areas and beside the spine. I hope they reveal she just passed out but osga heals her or something 😢
@@christopherconaway3549 God why they kill her like that ❓
@@christopherconaway3549 Her kidneys could be in her Butt.
What i was meaning is there is potential that they reveal the wounds didnt strike anything too deadly. Pelagius has three hearts and plays dead in the book, so why couldn't they say Osha wakes up and heals jecki?
Haha, got out of hand for Anakin. 😂 I really did laugh.
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Love your content!!
Dang, you watched the crap out of this show! Thanks for making such a thoughtful video. I appreciate a lot more about The Acolyte after finding your channel. (You got me rewatching the whole series now lol)
Of all the characters, I liked Jeki the most. I’m kind of heartbroken
14:50 they’re calling her a mary sue because she did tons of training and lasted a while against Qimir. Can't have SHIT in this fandom
Every single female character introduced in Star Wars since 2008 has been called a Mary Sue by Star Wars "fans". Every. Single. One.
I’m glad you spoke about men and their emotions. You are respected, and people pay attention to what you say. A man who can express their emotions in a positive manner knows that it doesn’t detract from their masculinity in any way. You mentioned ways to release the stress of emotions, but being able to express them is very important, too.
14:15 "Things get out of hand"... You could say Dooku disarmed him 😂
I love Star Wars, but I'm not a die-hard. Why do some people compare the Acolyte to the prequels and sequels when they are two different eras? You can't compare the US government of the 1950s to today, even though judging by some channels they want to go back but that is a whole other topic
i think the comparison to the prequels is a little better because its about a hundred years difference. But actually you do have a good point, a century is a long time. It used to be the star wars galaxy was more stagnant but now it seems like the changes are a bit more noticeable
@@GenerationTech Thank yoiu
Y’all are insufferable, you don’t like how someone feels about the show so you assume they want to go back to 1950s America because of their supposed “racist” and “sexist” views.
jecki Lon was 18 so she was crossing the threshold from child to adult chronologically . She was intellectual mature But you can see how the Jedi experience was holding her back on emotional maturity.
Master Sol is to blame for her death as much as she is. His padawan leapt down and carried out a nearly minute long duel and he simply stood on a ledge and watched. He is also to blame for Yords death as he remained on the outskirts as Yord attacked.
Jeckie was pretty cool. She was kind and competant. She didnt take it personally when sol still had an attachment to osha.
Jeckie also forced yord to be lighten up a bit.
I didnt expect her to die so soon. She had a lot of skill for a padawan.
I really think the people who are hating this show wouldnt have liked star wars if it came out today
Probably arent wrong. They'd pick it apart.
“Empire strikes back show now respect for the LORE!!!!! Darth killed Luke father why are they changing it now to he is Anakin!!! These hacks show no respect for the lore and are just changing things to make their one mark!!!!!” Modern Starwars fan if they watched Empire strikes back today.
I almost want to do a review of the prequels as one of these grifters
@@GenerationTech that would be hilarious tbh
@@GenerationTechThat'd be too easy IMO, a lot of the stuffier SW fans don't really like the prequels much.
I'd do the OT first.
Jecki should've been sent back to the ship, maybe to alert the Jedi and or request assistance; she was too young for combat and her death achieved nothing, also he story arc had much more latent in it. Sol should've taken the lead, as he was the most experienced in combat.
In Sol's defense, regarding bringing Jecki, they didn't know they were heading straight into a fight with a sith...
14:16 "things get out of hand". Yeah, that hand went flying xD
I loved this episode.
you're a right proper egg, allen
Another very thoughtful, well written analysis. I agree that we need to wait until the end of the season to judge the whole work product. It would be like fans getting up during the first screening of A New Hope and leaving the theatre because one of the major characters was a fur covered being who couldn't even speak English! We just finished Act 5 of an 8 Act play. And its a murder mystery for crying out loud! We have to wait until Poirot, uh, I mean Sol calls everyone togther and announces who the killer is.
You are a really great host Allen, great video as always.