The Richard Rogers design is one of my absolute favorites. The Montosa, if it had a better steel, it would be one of the best selling knives on the market in my opinion.
I can’t believe CRKT is trying to get by selling 8cr for the price they are charging for their knives. So many better knives with atleast D2 going out for less money. I want to like them but they are losing me.
I feel like 14c28n and 154CM should be the bare minimum at this point. I like D2, but it just doesn't survive the humid Southeast and I've also experienced chipping with it.
@remmer4066 mate 8cr is a bottom of the barrel steel for at least the last 14 years. Sure it's serviceable but a simple carbon steel will outperform in everything but rust resistance.
CRKT has so many great designs which are let down by their material choices. They could really be a great manufacturer with just a little more thought and effort.
I guess one could look at it this way. The "not so great" knives gives us a reference point to guage the ones that are good or great. They can't all be winners.
Did you ever have a Tighe Tac Two? I wanted to love that knife but it was so goofy to hold. And no one else mentions it.. but that designer has some questionable design choices. The iron cross and lightning bolts come off kinda bad.
I hate it when people pearl-clutch over symbols that *long* predate the N*z*s and ultimately have nothing to do with them. It's like actively looking for things to be offended by and sensitive about without bothering to actually become educated about their history. If everything the N*z*s touched became pariah, we'd have virtually nothing left we could say, do, or represent. They were thieves and culture vultures, don't let them drag everything down with them. The Iron Cross was in use at least a full century before them (and likely much, much longer considering it is such a simple geometric shape to reproduce), and the lightning bolt has been used literally since the dawn of time. Heck, the lightning design on the Tac Two even looks nothing like a Sowilō like you're suggesting, and even if it did, that also predates the era by over 1000 years.
Nothing wrong with 8cr as you said, but I'm not spending $50 on it. That's their main issue for me. It's either a great design with bad steel, great design at a ridiculous price, or some weird ass design. Never really been able to see eye to eye with CRKT.
@1980JPA Agreed. If crkt knives were still like 30 bucks then maybe. But I wouldn't buy any unless they're on sale. They have good designs that are constantly let down by their material choices
I don't like Chinese alphabet steels and avoid them. Had some in the past which claim to be 8Cr or 9Cr and ran into poor edge holding and interesting sharpenability? Gummy sharpening which had to be done too often...
You shouldn't have to flip it in your hand to open it. Especially if you carried a good knife for the last week and now you gotta figure it out. Most people carry tip up.
Tip-up is also safer (especially with flipper-tab knives) as there is no way for the knife to open in your pocket as the blade rests closed between the scales up against the lining of your pants. With tip-down, there is nothing but the detent itself forcing the blade closed (which could be weak or could fail), and any knife with a flipper tab could be deployed by the edge of the pants pocket when pulling out of the pocket as the tab would be pressed against the pocket which could cut you. There is essentially no benefit to tip-down and only risks. There's a reason the majority of manufacturers have moved past it. (And on a subjective note, I find pocket clips to interfere far less with ergonomics when in the tip-up position.)
For CRKT 8cr is a premium steel lol
The Fossil is amazing
The fossil is my favorite CRKT- I have bought several as I lost one
The Fossil is probably the best knife they produce along with the Squid. I love them both.
The Richard Rogers design is one of my absolute favorites. The Montosa, if it had a better steel, it would be one of the best selling knives on the market in my opinion.
Thanx for being real, brother.
Yeah, the Overland deserves a much better folding counterpart.
CRKT knives are great except for the materials, quality, and execution 😂
Yezzir them and Kershaw plenty of neat designs that you wish would come in a less cheapo version
I can’t believe CRKT is trying to get by selling 8cr for the price they are charging for their knives. So many better knives with atleast D2 going out for less money. I want to like them but they are losing me.
So if I want to get better at sharpening I should get some blades in 8cr?
I don't understand why 8cr is still a thing. 10cr or d2 at very least
8cr good steel
I feel like 14c28n and 154CM should be the bare minimum at this point. I like D2, but it just doesn't survive the humid Southeast and I've also experienced chipping with it.
@remmer4066 mate 8cr is a bottom of the barrel steel for at least the last 14 years. Sure it's serviceable but a simple carbon steel will outperform in everything but rust resistance.
@funkycat9629 I have a knife made of this steel and i am satisfied.
CRKT has so many great designs which are let down by their material choices. They could really be a great manufacturer with just a little more thought and effort.
I guess one could look at it this way. The "not so great" knives gives us a reference point to guage the ones that are good or great. They can't all be winners.
Did you ever have a Tighe Tac Two? I wanted to love that knife but it was so goofy to hold. And no one else mentions it.. but that designer has some questionable design choices. The iron cross and lightning bolts come off kinda bad.
I hate it when people pearl-clutch over symbols that *long* predate the N*z*s and ultimately have nothing to do with them. It's like actively looking for things to be offended by and sensitive about without bothering to actually become educated about their history.
If everything the N*z*s touched became pariah, we'd have virtually nothing left we could say, do, or represent. They were thieves and culture vultures, don't let them drag everything down with them.
The Iron Cross was in use at least a full century before them (and likely much, much longer considering it is such a simple geometric shape to reproduce), and the lightning bolt has been used literally since the dawn of time. Heck, the lightning design on the Tac Two even looks nothing like a Sowilō like you're suggesting, and even if it did, that also predates the era by over 1000 years.
Theres really nothing wrong with 8cr, especially if u rotate ur knife weekly. It also depends on the heat treat.
Nothing wrong with 8cr as you said, but I'm not spending $50 on it. That's their main issue for me.
It's either a great design with bad steel, great design at a ridiculous price, or some weird ass design. Never really been able to see eye to eye with CRKT.
@1980JPA Agreed. If crkt knives were still like 30 bucks then maybe. But I wouldn't buy any unless they're on sale. They have good designs that are constantly let down by their material choices
I don't like Chinese alphabet steels and avoid them. Had some in the past which claim to be 8Cr or 9Cr and ran into poor edge holding and interesting sharpenability? Gummy sharpening which had to be done too often...
Yikes Mr Stassa 😬
Why don’t you like tip down what are your reasons??
You shouldn't have to flip it in your hand to open it. Especially if you carried a good knife for the last week and now you gotta figure it out. Most people carry tip up.
Tip-up is also safer (especially with flipper-tab knives) as there is no way for the knife to open in your pocket as the blade rests closed between the scales up against the lining of your pants. With tip-down, there is nothing but the detent itself forcing the blade closed (which could be weak or could fail), and any knife with a flipper tab could be deployed by the edge of the pants pocket when pulling out of the pocket as the tab would be pressed against the pocket which could cut you.
There is essentially no benefit to tip-down and only risks. There's a reason the majority of manufacturers have moved past it.
(And on a subjective note, I find pocket clips to interfere far less with ergonomics when in the tip-up position.)
Love tip down no problem.