Kamishiki Buffs - Just make shigan barrage an extender, this thing is supposed to be on par with abyssal karate and sulong but a high damage extender is too much??? -Maybe do something with absolute tekkai, I understand the dash part is just a gimmick but its not really viable at all. Maybe make it so you can move while tekkaied with a LOT of stam drain if you're moving? Hate to look at abyssal again, but compare this move to diving tides in terms of defensive usefullness - I really like the way the counter feels and it's fun to use, don't make it just be a combo starting counter like all the rest. Instead maybe increase the damage a bit and/or make it do way more damage if you hit them into a wall - Does true rokuogan need a 5 minute cooldown? The same as galaxy impact and (iirc) sea quake? Even taking br into account I don't think so. (On a side note, i'd like to point out that gold's ult has a *6* minute cooldown in arena. Because... uhhh...)
i don’t really think it’s supposed to be on par with abyssal and moonlit considering those are locked behind 5% races and anyone can get kamishiki lol. it can be somewhat relative but the other two are still gonna be better
@ I always thought that was a strange outlook, tbh. Race rerolls are handed out like candy and, as far as pvp is concerned, i'd say electro and (before this update) fishman v1 were way better than cyborg and completely outshined their fellow 5% in vampire. With how easy it is to get whatever race you want, I think race exclusive fighting styles being better is a kind of dated old gpo thing. I see where you're coming from, though.
Shigan barrage combo extender I agree with. WIth absolute tekkai, it is gimmicky but I don't think the dash part needs to be changed at all. I think what they should change is they should make the start up almost instant, making it like a secondary block with a long cooldown. So like if you see someone using a guard break you think you can't pb, you can switch it out with that so that its defensive utility is really put in the spotlight. Literally just a safer pb option/second counter. As for the actual counter, I think its perfectly fine really. I like the idea of it having more use cases against a wall, but I feel like its just a tad bit niche which isn't what I think Kamishiki needs right now. It just needs consistency. I can understand wanting a buff for it though since in comparison to literally half the other counters in the game, its kind of buns. Besides those changes the only thing id want more for kamishiki is being able to use a fruit with it. I dont see why we would be restricted since kamishiki is literally used in tandem with devil fruits in one piece, and it would also solve some issues with the lack of utility in its base kit.
@ I like your idea for absolute tekkai. I wasn't saying to remove the dash but add the movement as an extra part of it because trying to hit the dash is just like "Hey man, can you come over to me in a straight line while not blocking PLEASE..." Only thing I'd be scared of is that it being almost instant would probably turn it into a combo extender which then everyone would just use it for that instead of your intended purpose. Maybe make it so the dash is only usable if you're already blocked a hit with it or something to prevent that but keep the instant windup as for it to not be a combo tool. The counter already dazes if you launch them into a wall so I thought going all in on knocking them into a wall being the situational but preferred option would give it a bit of uniqueness. A small damage buff for the counter overall mightve just been a personal want on my part, tbh.
garp is an average human, yet iron fist users can use their fruits. meanwhile lucci is a literal fruit user and for some reason phoeyu banned kami users from using it???
For me Id say kamishiki is more like a dueling V2 where as you just use m1s and combos while using tekkai as a stalling move so you can regen hp. What it lacks is more damaging moves or rather more impactful moves.
kami is crazy strong you just have to be crazy aggressive with it, and higher stat dumps into str is better. if you know how to put pressure without letting them breathe, it’s op. also i’d say this is a big nerf overall because baiting m1s then charging the Z to damage trade was really good with kami.
I think Kamishiki has a lot of potential on a future rework, and its because i think Kamishiki would work as a Techfull Fs, just like Fishman is, the way it is now it can already work on this tech side, like, it have a damn insta TP, the ammount of options you can have with this is insane, but the rest of the moves are lacking in that regard, shigan barrage needs a full rework (No one liked this move, let's be fr, basic Shigan is way better to hit and use in general). Rankakyu already got a solid base, but instead of a stupid chargeable move, an extender when used with a perfect tp would be insane. For the Tp, i think making it a more solid move with less cooldown would be great, for the last, Tekai, it needs a hard buff, when we compare it to Diving Tides, defense vs defense, its not even fair...
@@dutchdario635Ye ngl you'd need to fit in a better sword like ace or yoru but the stats would probably be mid and too balanced. You're better off with sulong, abyssal, dullahan or a fruit.
@@akoya1005 Inf combos is braindead but I wouldn’t say spammy. When I said spammy stuff, I’m referring to fighting styles, fruits or weapons that are extremely good off neutral. For example, sharkmen’s combo extender can also be used raw and not really be punished. Same can be said about it’s t and r move. Same thing with mink
I genuinely despise/quickly get bored of the braindead stuff. If u gave me the option to use Raiui and never be able to use mythic weapons again I'd gladly accept lol
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For the 45 points in sword, just put it in health. ( Forgot to reset my sp from last vid )
Kamishiki Buffs
- Just make shigan barrage an extender, this thing is supposed to be on par with abyssal karate and sulong but a high damage extender is too much???
-Maybe do something with absolute tekkai, I understand the dash part is just a gimmick but its not really viable at all. Maybe make it so you can move while tekkaied with a LOT of stam drain if you're moving? Hate to look at abyssal again, but compare this move to diving tides in terms of defensive usefullness
- I really like the way the counter feels and it's fun to use, don't make it just be a combo starting counter like all the rest. Instead maybe increase the damage a bit and/or make it do way more damage if you hit them into a wall
- Does true rokuogan need a 5 minute cooldown? The same as galaxy impact and (iirc) sea quake? Even taking br into account I don't think so.
(On a side note, i'd like to point out that gold's ult has a *6* minute cooldown in arena. Because... uhhh...)
i don’t really think it’s supposed to be on par with abyssal and moonlit considering those are locked behind 5% races and anyone can get kamishiki lol. it can be somewhat relative but the other two are still gonna be better
@ I always thought that was a strange outlook, tbh. Race rerolls are handed out like candy and, as far as pvp is concerned, i'd say electro and (before this update) fishman v1 were way better than cyborg and completely outshined their fellow 5% in vampire. With how easy it is to get whatever race you want, I think race exclusive fighting styles being better is a kind of dated old gpo thing. I see where you're coming from, though.
Honestly just waiting for the Leopard....
Shigan barrage combo extender I agree with. WIth absolute tekkai, it is gimmicky but I don't think the dash part needs to be changed at all. I think what they should change is they should make the start up almost instant, making it like a secondary block with a long cooldown. So like if you see someone using a guard break you think you can't pb, you can switch it out with that so that its defensive utility is really put in the spotlight. Literally just a safer pb option/second counter. As for the actual counter, I think its perfectly fine really. I like the idea of it having more use cases against a wall, but I feel like its just a tad bit niche which isn't what I think Kamishiki needs right now. It just needs consistency. I can understand wanting a buff for it though since in comparison to literally half the other counters in the game, its kind of buns. Besides those changes the only thing id want more for kamishiki is being able to use a fruit with it. I dont see why we would be restricted since kamishiki is literally used in tandem with devil fruits in one piece, and it would also solve some issues with the lack of utility in its base kit.
@ I like your idea for absolute tekkai. I wasn't saying to remove the dash but add the movement as an extra part of it because trying to hit the dash is just like "Hey man, can you come over to me in a straight line while not blocking PLEASE..." Only thing I'd be scared of is that it being almost instant would probably turn it into a combo extender which then everyone would just use it for that instead of your intended purpose. Maybe make it so the dash is only usable if you're already blocked a hit with it or something to prevent that but keep the instant windup as for it to not be a combo tool. The counter already dazes if you launch them into a wall so I thought going all in on knocking them into a wall being the situational but preferred option would give it a bit of uniqueness. A small damage buff for the counter overall mightve just been a personal want on my part, tbh.
kamishiki should don't got the fruit restriction like iron fist
Should not*
Kamishiki is a v2, iron fist is a v1
@@rinlikestraps2485 iron fist is actually better while beging a v1, v1 and v2 should don't matter
@@rinlikestraps2485put a kamashiki user against an iron fist with no fruit, we both know who's winning even when both have fruit restrictions
garp is an average human, yet iron fist users can use their fruits. meanwhile lucci is a literal fruit user and for some reason phoeyu banned kami users from using it???
For me Id say kamishiki is more like a dueling V2 where as you just use m1s and combos while using tekkai as a stalling move so you can regen hp. What it lacks is more damaging moves or rather more impactful moves.
I kinda forgot it, it’s hard to even get, soul guitar barely drops.
kami is crazy strong you just have to be crazy aggressive with it, and higher stat dumps into str is better. if you know how to put pressure without letting them breathe, it’s op. also i’d say this is a big nerf overall because baiting m1s then charging the Z to damage trade was really good with kami.
Man imagine if kamishiki could be usable with df there definitly would be a ptero dark blade with it
11:26 actually embarrassing he wouldn't even try to m1 trade you, just spamming moves til you died and still couldn't even after 2 minutes
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Shiki be needing a v3 already 😭
I think Kamishiki has a lot of potential on a future rework, and its because i think Kamishiki would work as a Techfull Fs, just like Fishman is, the way it is now it can already work on this tech side, like, it have a damn insta TP, the ammount of options you can have with this is insane, but the rest of the moves are lacking in that regard, shigan barrage needs a full rework (No one liked this move, let's be fr, basic Shigan is way better to hit and use in general). Rankakyu already got a solid base, but instead of a stupid chargeable move, an extender when used with a perfect tp would be insane. For the Tp, i think making it a more solid move with less cooldown would be great, for the last, Tekai, it needs a hard buff, when we compare it to Diving Tides, defense vs defense, its not even fair...
you gonna do dragon claw next? im pretty sure people have forgotten that it even existed
Nah dc is still one of the best
@rinlikestraps2485 and yet it's so underused (I want it so bad but I hate BR as a genre.)
still no any extender ?
btw lol it use so much mana
Wait what’s the buff (read it and that buff did nothing lmao)
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How does the Tekai work? And good video
Use tekkai then press q to do the dash after
@@One_Zenith thank you
Bro makes a whole video on the most minor change to kamishiki
It’s not even a bad fighting style. Y’all are just too used to the braindead and spammy stuff
It’s genuinly not good though lol
It’s passable but it really doesn’t make up for the no fruit debuff
@@dutchdario635Ye ngl you'd need to fit in a better sword like ace or yoru but the stats would probably be mid and too balanced. You're better off with sulong, abyssal, dullahan or a fruit.
What is considered spam really? Is infinite combo a spam or is it when you use the abilities u have at your disposal to defeat an enemy?
@@akoya1005 Inf combos is braindead but I wouldn’t say spammy. When I said spammy stuff, I’m referring to fighting styles, fruits or weapons that are extremely good off neutral. For example, sharkmen’s combo extender can also be used raw and not really be punished. Same can be said about it’s t and r move. Same thing with mink
I genuinely despise/quickly get bored of the braindead stuff. If u gave me the option to use Raiui and never be able to use mythic weapons again I'd gladly accept lol
Bro phoeyou should’ve just made kamashiki be able to use fruit along with it :/
finally someone who knows jitte m1 dmg is trash.
Quack!! 🦆
How do people enjoy playing like that? In the third round
I honestly don't know
At least remove its fruit restriction seeing that iron fist doesn’t have one
U got a discord ma boi?
Nah not yet, It's on the way dw 👍
Yo what's the 45 points in sword for
Forgot to reset my points lol. Just put the extra 45 in health
I became broke because i thought kami was good
😭
Have more into strength
Takes too much stamina.
Fr
OIL UPPPP
PLZ, I DON'T WANNA 😭😭
And hit the bell man stop playing
First bro give me a pika v2 stat only pika
bro kamishiki is trash!!
“Yes, i use kamishiki” 🥸