What I also love is that Sukuna is a legitimate problem; whereas in Naruto, the Nine-Tailed Fox always has been built-up to be a menace (and he is), but whenever he appears, he's just a literal walking plot convenience that solves most of Naruto's problems. Another aspect I like is that when Itadori is possesed / overtaken by Sukuna, it really is Sukuna and not just a mentally unwell Itadori.
great point! I definitely agree, there's also this aspect of naruto where whenever the ninetales come out, just like you said, it feels like a deus ex machina. Whereas when Itadori relies on Sukuna there it's clearly a decision that will have terrible consequences. It's less of a magical solution and more of a hard to make tradeoff
Hey everybody, sorry I had to reupload this. There was a bogus copyright claim that forced me to make a couple changes to the edit. Thanks for checking out the video!
Another thing to bring up, is the Power System in Jujutsu Kaisen, in Naruto, the Chakra becomes more and more streamlined and stale as it goes on, which mostly just spamming bigger lasers and explosions, which doesn't fit the ninja setting of Naruto. But they way the Power System works in JJK not only allows for more creativity and versatility, but the way its rules have been fleshed out and are integrated in every fight reminds me a lot of Nen from Hunter X Hunter in the best possible way, with the Cursed Energy and Abilities in JJK highly complimenting the choreography, strategies and dynamics of every encounter, making every action fun to watch/read. Plus, like HxH, it uses self-imposed conditions and challenges as part of the system, so characters literally explaining their powers to their enemies have an actual valid strategical reason of risk=benefit. So yeah, Jujutsu Kaisen perhaps ain'r the most original manga ever but greatly improves on several Shonen tropes introduced/used beforehand, as you said. Great video btw
I've been dscussing this very topic with my friends since we watched JJK. I spent great deal of my life disliking Naruto, but I've been watching an abridged cut of it with a friend, it's definitely grown on me. I like the world and the characters more than I ever thought I would. However, the experience has only strengthened my opinion that JJK is an evolved and mostly superior version of Naruto (but not limited to that comparison!).
Didn’t Sakura confess to sasuke in order to assassinate him? I don’t feel like that was a contradiction for her character since her confession to Naruto was only to lift the burden of their promise (even if it was executed poorly). Other than that, great vid!
yeah that's a great point. That might be what the writer had in mind when writing it, but that was definitely not what came across from me when watching. I feel like there must have been some disconnect in the production process but it very easily could have not been an issue with the writing but rather execution.
Naruto as an orphan doesn't make sense because his father was a war hero and his mother was from a special clan, but for some reason the 3rd seemed to just allow him to be ostracized (And I cried when he died too, felt like a waste of tears). If I were to make a comparison to the 3rd, it would be that old Principal Leader (Forgot his name) that Gojo wants to (rightfully) overthrow. Personally Kakashi should've been aiming for that (he becomes Hokage sure, but not for that reason), knowing Naruto and what he went through... also the whole child soldier thing. I love good fluid morally in line motivations so whenever someone does something shitty and it doesn't get called out, I get upset (as if I could write a better story lol).
RUclips randomly recommended me one of your last of us reviews, ever since then i've been watching your older videos. you're so criminally underrated, hopefully your last of us vids changes that!
Many of the tropes described are not only Naruto's but very, well, shonen in general. But I understand that for someone who was introduced to them through Naruto would used that as a point of reference. The main principle of the video stands though.
haha thank you very much! I'm really proud of this one and had a blast making the comparison. I really enjoy consuming art and i'm trying to figure out a process of talking about it that builds it's own story, relies on similar tools, like music and presentation that leaves people feeling strong emotions. I enjoy that part of stuff so trying to make my own version
Man I'm so jealous of people's love for JJK, I went into it expecting to love it and left so underwhelmed. It just ended up falling into the "nothing special" category of anime for me, even tho I can see why the popular opinion would be that it is peak shonen or that stuff, I'll never be able to agree. The friendship of the main three characters was so underdeveloped that I had no investment at all in them, almost half the season was a tournament arc with flashbacks for characters I didn't really like, Gojo seems like an AI made character specifically made for the public to enjoy and Itadori felt super generic and hollow the whole way through. Now that's not to say the show is bad or anything, it's a solid 7.5/10 to me, I had a lot of fun, it does have some great stuff like Toudou and Sukuna, but it as a whole it ended up being a super shallow experience that I don't really miss.
Ah, I'm glad someone feels the same way :') it's definitely interesting, even if the idea is not necessarily new. I love JJK's idea of domain compared to most animes (let's take the closest example of Naruto and its jinchurikis), because the technical side of things and the art is simply superb. I also unironically fell in love with Toji's character and only like him because for me he was the only one who grabbed my attention long enough to continue reading the manga (I stopped after he died again post ressurection). But I also found JJK quite underwhelming, like you did. Yuuji felt like a stale protagonist, the plot is only sporadically interesting, and I'm honestly not a fan of Gojo's "absoluteness" as well as despise Yuuji's lackluster development and personality. He's just so... boring. I was impatiently waiting for Sukuna's screentime each time I saw Yuuji instead of rooting for the MC lmao Ngl I only watched it because the vibe reminded me of Kekkaishi haha. All in all, a fun watch, but not particularly memorable.
@@spicytuna769 Bro its harder than I thought it would be to find people who agree with me on this lol, I just really don't get it. I also agree with your points about Itadori and Gojo there. The domain expansion system and Sukuna as a character were the most interesting parts to me, aside from the animation and all that, which I can't deny is great. Even tho the domain expansion stuff felt really cool, I still wasn't convinced by the power system, the power progression of each character and the power "ceiling" was very weird, not to speak on how Yuuji's own powers developed crazy fast, dude just started was doing more black flashes than Nanami, a seasoned veteran, I guess I'll eat up the "Sukuna's powering him up" argument.
I'm assuming everybody in this comments section has watched the show so this shouldn't spoil anyone My question is: Where is the humanity and love in JJK? Which characters in this story feel love for each other? There's no romantic love as far as I can remember. Does Miwa have a crush on Gojo? Yeah that's not going anywhere for obvious reasons. Familial love? Maki and Mai? Not seeing it at all. Platonic love? Itadori and Todo almost come close to resembling a cute friendship but it's really just a gag as far as I can tell In Naruto, I care about what happens to Naruto because Kakashi and Sakura love him and Sasuke needs him. In Attack on Titan, I care about what happens to Eren because Mikasa and Armin love him. In Demon Slayer, I care about what happens to Tanjiro because Nezuko loves and needs him. In Chainsaw man I care about what happens to Denji because Aki and Power love him. Do Megumi, Nobara, or Gojo love Yuji? Not just sort of appreciate him, but actually deeply LOVE the guy? If so, I literally cannot tell even though I was looking for it, begging to see it. Yuji literally dies and his teammates are like "welp that sucks" Does anybody likable need Yuji in good shape to realistically complete their development? Am I supposed to accept Sukuna for an answer here? Because I'm not going to. So why do I care what happens to Yuji? Anybody in any show can have a cool action scene, I don't care if his fights are pog or hype. See, if Akutami didn't have to be edgy and make it not like other shonen uwu, Junpei would have been a perfect addition to the main cast for this reason. If I could watch a version of Yuji that adopts this broken film nerd and acts as a brother figure to him, I honestly think he would skyrocket to one of my favorite protagonists of all time. The difference between protecting someone and avenging them is that (typically) the former brings characters closer and the latter, if anything, drives them apart. For me to care about him, Yuji desperately needs an organic close connection to a living person and he just isn't allowed to have it. Do you feel the same way?
totally fair. Ive heard that before. Even in the way the first season progressed they switched up a lot, just thought the initial impression felt was kinda uncanny
You make valid points but heres the thing ,lots of shonen have similar setups. Its only when you get to the meat of the story does it diverge into its own thing. While Naruto has some awful pacing at times ( for severe stretches of episodes too lol) I have to say JJK just didnt do it for me. Everything about it was slick, they got MAPPA, designs were dope, it had all the ingredients to make a kickass anime but it all felt flat to me beacuse the story feels flat and derivative to me. Finished Season 1 feeling super underwhelmed so it did make me ponder a lil... one of the reasons I felt it wasnt engaging was maybe the lack of time spent building the characters to make me care, but tons of anime successfully do so within a 12-24 episode run compared to narutos hundreds of episodes.. e.g Vinland Saga, AOT... ANYHOO, Great Video!! just felt like chiming in lol
I hate/love Naruto. I think it's so cool, but at the same time I absolutely loathe the tropes, the pacing, the obvious missed opportunities and of course: The shitty female characters. I feel like Naruto works 90% of on cool factor and music alone. You keep watching to see what kind of bullshit they're gonna pull off next. But when Jujutsu Kaisen does that, but better... Yeah.
What I also love is that Sukuna is a legitimate problem; whereas in Naruto, the Nine-Tailed Fox always has been built-up to be a menace (and he is), but whenever he appears, he's just a literal walking plot convenience that solves most of Naruto's problems.
Another aspect I like is that when Itadori is possesed / overtaken by Sukuna, it really is Sukuna and not just a mentally unwell Itadori.
great point! I definitely agree, there's also this aspect of naruto where whenever the ninetales come out, just like you said, it feels like a deus ex machina. Whereas when Itadori relies on Sukuna there it's clearly a decision that will have terrible consequences. It's less of a magical solution and more of a hard to make tradeoff
Hey everybody, sorry I had to reupload this. There was a bogus copyright claim that forced me to make a couple changes to the edit. Thanks for checking out the video!
Rewatching anyways because I know how it is
Another thing to bring up, is the Power System in Jujutsu Kaisen, in Naruto, the Chakra becomes more and more streamlined and stale as it goes on, which mostly just spamming bigger lasers and explosions, which doesn't fit the ninja setting of Naruto. But they way the Power System works in JJK not only allows for more creativity and versatility, but the way its rules have been fleshed out and are integrated in every fight reminds me a lot of Nen from Hunter X Hunter in the best possible way, with the Cursed Energy and Abilities in JJK highly complimenting the choreography, strategies and dynamics of every encounter, making every action fun to watch/read. Plus, like HxH, it uses self-imposed conditions and challenges as part of the system, so characters literally explaining their powers to their enemies have an actual valid strategical reason of risk=benefit.
So yeah, Jujutsu Kaisen perhaps ain'r the most original manga ever but greatly improves on several Shonen tropes introduced/used beforehand, as you said.
Great video btw
I've been dscussing this very topic with my friends since we watched JJK. I spent great deal of my life disliking Naruto, but I've been watching an abridged cut of it with a friend, it's definitely grown on me. I like the world and the characters more than I ever thought I would. However, the experience has only strengthened my opinion that JJK is an evolved and mostly superior version of Naruto (but not limited to that comparison!).
welp gotta binge the show now
Pey the most underrate youtuber
Im not even 4 minutes in and I thought I was at 10 damn you pack all of the video so tight and clean
Video is awesome would love more stuff like this where you explore and dissect the things you love ❤️.
Got me here after your Last Of Us epi 4 essay. Glad I ran into it. Already hit that subs bttn.
ty for the great vid, man! love the content and the production is awesome :)
Didn’t Sakura confess to sasuke in order to assassinate him? I don’t feel like that was a contradiction for her character since her confession to Naruto was only to lift the burden of their promise (even if it was executed poorly). Other than that, great vid!
yeah that's a great point. That might be what the writer had in mind when writing it, but that was definitely not what came across from me when watching. I feel like there must have been some disconnect in the production process but it very easily could have not been an issue with the writing but rather execution.
Naruto as an orphan doesn't make sense because his father was a war hero and his mother was from a special clan, but for some reason the 3rd seemed to just allow him to be ostracized (And I cried when he died too, felt like a waste of tears). If I were to make a comparison to the 3rd, it would be that old Principal Leader (Forgot his name) that Gojo wants to (rightfully) overthrow. Personally Kakashi should've been aiming for that (he becomes Hokage sure, but not for that reason), knowing Naruto and what he went through... also the whole child soldier thing. I love good fluid morally in line motivations so whenever someone does something shitty and it doesn't get called out, I get upset (as if I could write a better story lol).
RUclips randomly recommended me one of your last of us reviews, ever since then i've been watching your older videos. you're so criminally underrated, hopefully your last of us vids changes that!
Many of the tropes described are not only Naruto's but very, well, shonen in general. But I understand that for someone who was introduced to them through Naruto would used that as a point of reference. The main principle of the video stands though.
i hate to say it, but I did subscribe because you mentioned it lol
I don’t even need to watch the entire video to say that I completely agree.
Reuploaded or not.... ~1250 Views and ~170 Likes are just not fair for such a video.
Great Job. Very well done Vid. Keep it up!
haha thank you very much! I'm really proud of this one and had a blast making the comparison. I really enjoy consuming art and i'm trying to figure out a process of talking about it that builds it's own story, relies on similar tools, like music and presentation that leaves people feeling strong emotions. I enjoy that part of stuff so trying to make my own version
I watched despite spoilers that was a great vid
But did you watch My Hero Academia. Because the Sasuke Retrieval Arc gets turned on it's head in MHA and it's great.
Great vid
woah
Man I'm so jealous of people's love for JJK, I went into it expecting to love it and left so underwhelmed. It just ended up falling into the "nothing special" category of anime for me, even tho I can see why the popular opinion would be that it is peak shonen or that stuff, I'll never be able to agree. The friendship of the main three characters was so underdeveloped that I had no investment at all in them, almost half the season was a tournament arc with flashbacks for characters I didn't really like, Gojo seems like an AI made character specifically made for the public to enjoy and Itadori felt super generic and hollow the whole way through. Now that's not to say the show is bad or anything, it's a solid 7.5/10 to me, I had a lot of fun, it does have some great stuff like Toudou and Sukuna, but it as a whole it ended up being a super shallow experience that I don't really miss.
Ah, I'm glad someone feels the same way :') it's definitely interesting, even if the idea is not necessarily new. I love JJK's idea of domain compared to most animes (let's take the closest example of Naruto and its jinchurikis), because the technical side of things and the art is simply superb. I also unironically fell in love with Toji's character and only like him because for me he was the only one who grabbed my attention long enough to continue reading the manga (I stopped after he died again post ressurection).
But I also found JJK quite underwhelming, like you did. Yuuji felt like a stale protagonist, the plot is only sporadically interesting, and I'm honestly not a fan of Gojo's "absoluteness" as well as despise Yuuji's lackluster development and personality. He's just so... boring. I was impatiently waiting for Sukuna's screentime each time I saw Yuuji instead of rooting for the MC lmao
Ngl I only watched it because the vibe reminded me of Kekkaishi haha. All in all, a fun watch, but not particularly memorable.
@@spicytuna769 Bro its harder than I thought it would be to find people who agree with me on this lol, I just really don't get it. I also agree with your points about Itadori and Gojo there. The domain expansion system and Sukuna as a character were the most interesting parts to me, aside from the animation and all that, which I can't deny is great.
Even tho the domain expansion stuff felt really cool, I still wasn't convinced by the power system, the power progression of each character and the power "ceiling" was very weird, not to speak on how Yuuji's own powers developed crazy fast, dude just started was doing more black flashes than Nanami, a seasoned veteran, I guess I'll eat up the "Sukuna's powering him up" argument.
I'm assuming everybody in this comments section has watched the show so this shouldn't spoil anyone
My question is: Where is the humanity and love in JJK? Which characters in this story feel love for each other? There's no romantic love as far as I can remember. Does Miwa have a crush on Gojo? Yeah that's not going anywhere for obvious reasons. Familial love? Maki and Mai? Not seeing it at all. Platonic love? Itadori and Todo almost come close to resembling a cute friendship but it's really just a gag as far as I can tell
In Naruto, I care about what happens to Naruto because Kakashi and Sakura love him and Sasuke needs him. In Attack on Titan, I care about what happens to Eren because Mikasa and Armin love him. In Demon Slayer, I care about what happens to Tanjiro because Nezuko loves and needs him. In Chainsaw man I care about what happens to Denji because Aki and Power love him.
Do Megumi, Nobara, or Gojo love Yuji? Not just sort of appreciate him, but actually deeply LOVE the guy? If so, I literally cannot tell even though I was looking for it, begging to see it. Yuji literally dies and his teammates are like "welp that sucks"
Does anybody likable need Yuji in good shape to realistically complete their development? Am I supposed to accept Sukuna for an answer here? Because I'm not going to.
So why do I care what happens to Yuji? Anybody in any show can have a cool action scene, I don't care if his fights are pog or hype.
See, if Akutami didn't have to be edgy and make it not like other shonen uwu, Junpei would have been a perfect addition to the main cast for this reason. If I could watch a version of Yuji that adopts this broken film nerd and acts as a brother figure to him, I honestly think he would skyrocket to one of my favorite protagonists of all time. The difference between protecting someone and avenging them is that (typically) the former brings characters closer and the latter, if anything, drives them apart. For me to care about him, Yuji desperately needs an organic close connection to a living person and he just isn't allowed to have it.
Do you feel the same way?
After the arc the first season ends on, the naruto comparisons kinda fall off with jjk, it becomes WAYY different
totally fair. Ive heard that before. Even in the way the first season progressed they switched up a lot, just thought the initial impression felt was kinda uncanny
Argee
All I need to know is that I crushed on Kugisaki hard and was repulsed by Sakura. /jk I agree with everything you said.
You make valid points but heres the thing ,lots of shonen have similar setups. Its only when you get to the meat of the story does it diverge into its own thing. While Naruto has some awful pacing at times ( for severe stretches of episodes too lol) I have to say JJK just didnt do it for me. Everything about it was slick, they got MAPPA, designs were dope, it had all the ingredients to make a kickass anime but it all felt flat to me beacuse the story feels flat and derivative to me. Finished Season 1 feeling super underwhelmed so it did make me ponder a lil... one of the reasons I felt it wasnt engaging was maybe the lack of time spent building the characters to make me care, but tons of anime successfully do so within a 12-24 episode run compared to narutos hundreds of episodes.. e.g Vinland Saga, AOT...
ANYHOO, Great Video!! just felt like chiming in lol
I hate/love Naruto. I think it's so cool, but at the same time I absolutely loathe the tropes, the pacing, the obvious missed opportunities and of course: The shitty female characters.
I feel like Naruto works 90% of on cool factor and music alone. You keep watching to see what kind of bullshit they're gonna pull off next. But when Jujutsu Kaisen does that, but better... Yeah.