Martin Scorsese interview on Stanley Kubrick (2001)
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- Filmmaker Martin Scorsese discusses the new documentary, "Stanley Kubrick: A Life in Pictures," joined by the film's producers, Christiane Kubrick and Jan Harlan.
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I loved his New York accent.
The fact that 2001 was made in 68 still blows me away
Completely agree. In terms of relevance of the subject it could have been made this year. Artificial intelligence, a society where everything seems to be possible, yet people are literally looking to the stars, searching for meaning.
And apart from the themes, just look at that tablet they are using, or the facetime like video calls with home.
@BLAIR M Schirmer Yes, the effects were incredible in 2001, and more importantly that the effects still 'hold up' to today's standard's almost being the year 2020 at the time I'm typing this, and VERY few films can 'say' that. One other film, being reminded of that because of, I believe an article from WIRED Magazine a few years back, was a commentary on how the SFX in Ridley Scott's "Blade Runner" still hold up very well present day too, and I totally agree. Didn't know he was just 70 when he passed, I thought he was a little older...anyway, what a Master Filmmaker, and glad he had just enough time to make one last masterpiece.
Really great year for cinema- Once Upon a Time in The West (my favourite from the year), Rosemary's Baby, Planet of The Apes, Bullit, Where Eagles Dare, Night of The Living Dead. And of course 2001: A Space Odyssey
The special effects are better than some of the cgi in movies today and back in 68 all they had to work with was model and matt paintings for the space scenes
The effects still work in 2020!
It’s unreal how good 2001 is. 🔥
"stanley was not a religious man, but he was very, very respectful to the unknown, and to the origin of what is" is a mind blowing sentence
It's an articulate summary of open-mindedness. But, In what way is it 'a mind blowing sentence'? It'd make a a good Tik Tok, you mean?
@@grantkerr8298touché
Damn Scorsese looks so humble in his reaction to thet saying Kubrick liked his movies, as he almost didnt believe it because he gets overwhelmed by the awe of that fact
I always get the sense he is an incredibly sweet human being. He reacts the same way when Bong mentioned him in his Oscar speech. He teared up when a Korean director explained how he was influenced by his art. Beautiful
I noticed this toooo it's just magical
Kubrick made films that were like classical compositions of music, magnificent.
Nah, baroque is best.
_mmm quite exquisite indeed classical music and kubrick wonderful art. I sniff my own farts_
@@johnclever8813 Don't forget to feed your Pepe. I've seen some lately which look very ill.
🎯🎯🎯💯🙏🏼
@@johnclever8813 Stick to Marvel and Cheetos
Both Kubrick and Scorsese are undoubtedly among the greatest directors of all time.
Fax
Interesting that Scorsese says they never met. Wow.
Kubrick is the greatest of all time.
@@xaq7745 Specifically American, you mean? At first I was going to suggest Nolan, but re-reading your comment I think you strictly mean American. Even if you mean American, Spielberg?? I'm not totally convinced Spielberg's better, but no way you can say Scorsese is "obviously" the greatest living director
Probably the number 1 and number 2.
24:54
I love this moment where Martin Scorsese shakes his head at the idea that Stanley Kubrick admired Scorsese's work, like no, it should only be the other way around. There's such deference and reverence for Kubrick as a filmmaker and humility regarding himself in comparison, even though we all know that Scorsese is easily one of the best filmmakers around. He's great but he respects and is humbled by someone he considers to be even better than himself. It's a very classy response.
Yes! I caught this too. Love his reaction
Such a brilliant point mate!
Beautiful words, ScienceWinsEveryTime.
They’re both very different filmmakers
Scorsese is a GOAT like Kubrick
The last 50 years of cinema has only served to demonstrate - by contrast - the timelessness and sheer genius of Kubrick. Not all the CGI trickery in the world can stand up to the sheer magic of this man's opus of works.
Oh Christ not another "CGI-bad" comment. CGI has its place, and let me tell you - most of the time you see it and don't even know its there. Any long shot on TV with cars, planes, or buildings will all be CGI. Even blood is CGI these days and you don't even know it.
Practical is great, it really is, but please stop berating an entire section of the movie industry who work very hard just because you can indulge in some "way back when" chest beating.
Syklone
What about drone shots?
Indeed
@@Syklonus CG is never good
@@Syklonus Trust me. We know blood is CG now, and it looks like shit compared to squibs
What a joy to watch Scorsese’s face as he reacts to stories of the trials of filmmaking. Then he hears how much SK respected his work. So humble.
“What makes a great artist?” “I don’t know, hopefully no one knows & it remains a secret.”
You know Kubrick is on another level compared to other filmmakers when a legend like Scorsese, who's one of the few directors who has a filmography that comes close to being as great as Kubrick's, praises him in the highest degree.
Or you could just watch 2001.
2001 was the first film I saw from Kubrick and it left me in awe. I remember leaving the Panorama theater in Hollywood not sure of what I had just seen meant, but I knew it was something extraordinary. I still watch that movie several times a year.
You should listen to the Artist Vincent Desiderios interpretation of 2001, very interesting.
Thanks John, I will seek it out. Many years ago I read an interview with Arthur Clarke in Playboy. He explained the whole story. I am still enamored of this movie and continue viewing it.
When jack nicholson calls you the man then you know what we are talking about
Because Kubrick treated him with reverence, and destroyed Shelley Duvall. The difference between the way men and women are treated by filmmakers.
@@patricias5122 what a shallow perspective.
@@patricias5122 "destroyed" hahahahaha. Jesus Christ, I always wonder if people use that kind of words just to make a point or truly believe such idiotic statements.
Kubrick didn't treat her right and was rough, but that's it. They just had a bad relationship, you know, like every fucking person on planet earth has with somebody.
My God, people make it sound like he raped her or some shit.
patricia S please fuck off he made over a dozen films he said he had to be harder on her because she was so cheerful and that tone is way off he’s a master at filmmaking he don’t give a fuck about man or woman or there fillings just about the act of filmmaking he didn’t do anything that was so bad it’s unforgivable he was mean and texted working her up and make her mad or exhausted or whatever he needed grow a fucking spine and quit being a little bitch
I mean obviously he gonna say that. he is the only actor (and that kid) who was least tortured by Kubrick. instead Kubrick completely blasted Shelley Duvall
Scorsese is so right about film. What a medium.
Wish he made napoleon
And the Arian Papers
he made napoleon all his life
Probably would have been a masterpiece.
I heard that Steven Spielberg wants to make Kubrick's Napolean script into a TV miniseries.
Knowing kubrik and his fascination with the occult he would've exposed the long forgotten history of the source of wealth of the rothschilds.
Which took place on the day of the battle of Waterloo.
I forgot he directed “Full Metal Jacket”! What a film. All of his works are amazing but that was the icing on the cake for me. He was a genius
“And then he made a Clockwork Orange and i was much relieved”.. wow lol. that’s pretty intense.
Says a lot about eyes wide shut.
@tonywords HA ha ha yes I thought the same. What! Clockwork Orange = relief ? Guess you had to be there.
SauceDonkey They cutted the 20min.
Child sacrifice 100%, her wife knew
@@RabbitConfirmed where do you get this from?
Kubrick, still the greatest at creating original movies, all distinct from every other movie he created before.
Wasn't most of his movies are novel adaption?
@@MrDjambronk what a fool thing to do. maybe you never reflect on how to do to write making a movie
@@XanAxDdu I can't tell much of what you're trying to say but adapting is not entirely the same as a completely original idea. Obviously there is originality in certain aspects of adapting but some people wouldn't call them original movies (Depends who you ask)
@@ManOnCouch no sorry, a normal movie made in hollywood or a tv movie is 'adapting' kubrick was a maker not an adapter, you can feel how a movie is to find tje difference between creation and adaptation. think to hair the drama musical about vietnam hippies and in general 68 generation in the states, a work for theatres and for street theatre, think to the milos forman movie, that is creation, not only for the different final choice of the plot. or think to akira kurosawa the throne of blood, he re create macbeth for an historical episode to be narrated ad an epic fictional samurai drama. that is making movies, making cinema, not simply adaptations, but creation
@@XanAxDdu man, what are you saying?
You can really tell that Marty really loves and has a great passion for films.
de veras que si.
I always knew _Eyes Wide Shut_ would eventually be regarded as one of the all-time great films.
.... is it?
@@Liface Yup.
3:55 Martin "they touch areas you don't want to be touched" Charlie leering, "yeah!" lol
Steve Gram 😂
That smirk tho
Lmao
I love how Christiane talks about him and how often she smiles.
I loved this interview. From start to finish, I've got to get a glimpse of the man in a more ordinary setting. His life and ideals will always be imprinted in his works. He is truly my favourite film director and one of the giants of his time of the 20th century- who will remain for ages to come.
Barry Lyndon the most beautiful film ever made
Barry Lyndon is mind boggling! And I normally don't watch those sort of films. Cheers!
It is such a fantastic film, somewhat underrated in his own filmography, but i personally think it is as good as anything else he ever made.
Christiane: "We were very nervous about screening 2001 in the Vatican"
Martin Scorsese: (laughs in Last Temptation of Christ)
Scorsese's eyebrows must take up at least 30% of his face
27% to be precise
Fuggetaboutit
The big question is why are they not grey? Does he dye them
😆😆😆
Rumor has it that they're related to Trump's hair.
Barry Lyndon - the best historical motion picture ever made.
The Shining - the best supernatural/psychological motion picture ever made
The Killing - the best heist movie ever made
A Clockwork Orange - my favorite movie
Elysian Fields lol Amadeus is the best history film bruh
Mate have you actually viewed and appreciated the historical intricacy if the motion picture Barry Lyndon ? I think not ! Milos foreman is creatively and technically stratospheres below Kubrick
2001 A Space Odyssey. The best cerebral scifi movie ever made in history.
Elysian Fields but Amadeus is excellent. I liked Barry Lyndon too, but Amadeus was very entertaining
Scorsese is a genius also. Taxi Driver is thee definition OF CINEMA
Big reason is Paul Schrader
Him and Kubrick are the GOATs imo
@@gamerasanders8697 Kubrick used to say Spielberg is also great at what he does. Kubrick gave AI movie to Spielberg to direct.
When Scorsese is that effervescent on anyone or anything, it’s over the top.
Kubrick is masterful.
Kubrick's wife very intelligent and beautiful. I can see why he married her.
very intelligent for not acting in his movies !
Very
@@metacosmos She was in Paths of Glory haha.
and never more
@@metacosmos ??????
The fact that MS came on this show to talk about him for an hour is a testament to Kubrick's par excellence.
Kubrick is the epitome of making art projects as films, not products to be consumed. You may not enjoy them immediately, but they are endlessly riveting and can find something new with each new watch.
Mrs. Kubrick is one class act ! Just lovely.
Scorcese could have a career in rapping godamm he speaks fast
DIONISYUM he should get pesci on a feature
Marty $core ft. Joey P.
Him and Ben Shapiro could've been rap gods.
@@BoRisMc ?
Wish he had physically seen the year 2001
Eeeeeehhhh, not the best year in America, but it's the thought that counts ✌❤🌥🌥
He died 666 days before the year 2001
i wish we could know for sure whether he was done and/or happy with Eyes Wide Shut.
@@LoYaL-G Wow! Illuminati coding! after all they killed him because of the secrets Kubricks movie eyes wide shut was going to expose...
MustKillDeepRepeat 919 actually
When Jack Nicholson thinks that someone calling you the man underrates you, that is the absolute highest praise there is!
I love this conversation they are having. Thanks Manufacturing Intellect
One king talking about another. What a filmmaker Kubrick was.
I'm such a big fan of films and Stanley Kubrick I loved watching this conversation all over again. Thanks so much for sharing Manufacturing Intellect.
Stanley Kubrick is one of those people when their name gets mentioned and it immediately commands great reverence and respect.
Such an interesting conversation. Charlie Rose was at his best here and you can really see him shine by making guests feel at ease and sharing openly. Katherina Kubrick is such a lovely, intelligent warm person!
I haven't seen too much of Charlie Rose, but he seems notably giddy here lol. I don't know if he was like that more frequently back 20 years ago, would you say he was? His excitement seemed really genuine and endearing
I was very surprised despite being fellow New Yorkers that Kubrick and Scorsese never met or spoke with one another!
Kubrick also never liked to fly so that probably also contributed a lot to them never meeting.
A cinematic loss if they never really did
I wonder if Stanley liked Martin's films as much has martin liked his films.
@Critique Everything He liked Martin's films. You can see that from the interview. The thing is Marty's films arent liked by everyone, while Kubricks film you cant stop liking it whatever the audience may be.
@Libertine Mercenary Marty has been in the business since the 70s, Kubrick too was at the prime during that time. They didn't meet but there was mutual admiration of each's craft
This video was from the year 2001, but looks like it may as well be from 1968, when he made 2001.
Brian that’s crazy, totally agree.
Lmao 😂
@@dannyoceanss lmao about what? About what? Stop doing that. Do you end every sentence with "lol" too?
@@aces553 lmao XD , lmfaoo lol.
Always loved The Killing.
I love how scorcese is listening with pure will to learn never even blinked once
He is such a genius. I wish he was still alive he would make so many more great pictures.
Vivian : we were living together when we shot the scene
Charlie Rose: so u were living together when u shot the scene?
Scorsese: 'you direct the eye... and the heart."
00:00 Stanley Kubrick, a beloved and enigmatic filmmaker, left behind a remarkable body of work that can inspire and teach other filmmakers about attention to detail and dedication, as discussed by Martin Scorsese.
08:14 Stanley Kubrick's films, influenced by his fascination with Napoleon and his belief in the power of emotions, explore the complexities of human nature through powerful visuals and unique storytelling, leaving a lasting impact on Martin Scorsese.
15:52 Martin Scorsese recognizes Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey as a wise and powerful exploration of human knowledge and gender differences, defending Kubrick against criticism, despite his perfectionism causing production delays.
20:15 Martin Scorsese discusses his connection with Stanley Kubrick, their shared experiences as filmmakers, and his admiration for Kubrick's work, while also expressing gratitude for being considered for a film project and discussing his thoughts on Spielberg potentially directing it.
28:00 Scorsese admires Kubrick's films, especially Barry Lyndon and 2001, and discusses the religious themes in 2001, while also mentioning Kubrick's unique style, influence on cinema editing, and his careful casting choices.
35:34 Kubrick's unique filming approach involved precise camera work, Scorsese discusses Kubrick's love for movies and attention to detail, Kubrick was difficult but fascinating, had a passion for various subjects, and loved sports.
42:11 Martin Scorsese reflects on his difficult but deep relationship with Stanley Kubrick, discussing the importance of giving space and time in filmmaking and Kubrick's desire for a meaningful story.
46:33 Stanley Kubrick died at 70 years old, and Martin Scorsese discusses their shared love for Kubrick's work.
Kubrick is in a world all by himself. The GOAT!
Kubrick’s earliest films were just ok. He developed through incredible determination into a great artist. I questioned the value of EWS, but I find much of it fascinating and interesting.
Wish he made Napoleon and Aryan Papers
3:23 - 5:41
The most beautiful thing I’ve ever heard from one great filmmaker about another great filmmaker. Scorsese is 100% right about Kubrick. His films broke new cinematic ground.
For better or worse, he made us see things we can never unsee.
Growing up and learning what film and cinema were all about, SK had not only a consistency in execution but a range of subject matter. Humanity, war and conflict, and authority. Life.
Inspiring. Unnerving.
Thanks for uploading this informative round-table discussion on a fascinating film-maker.
paths of glory is another (underrated) gem
Kubrick was the best.
And that is an understatement
Best of the best
With NO Academy awards!
@@arthurfleck816 Yeah, what an absolute crime that is! If anyone deserved an Oscar for directing it was him.
There's Kubrick and then everyone else.
@Proud violent Libtard Everyone that picks up a guitar is also a guitarist. Does that mean millions will pay to see them play?
@Proud violent Libtard dumb comment
Proud violent Libtard that was One of the stupidest comments I’ve ever saw you’ve never watched a kubrick movie have you because Then you would know the how stupid you sound he’s the master the greatest the GOAT there’s a reason the other great film makers call him the master
Stop calling Proud violent Libtard`s comment stupid. The only stupid thing here is to suggest that there is only one great director in the whole movie history. Kubrick himself learned from Bergman and Orson Wells. And what about Eisenstein, Chaplin, Kurosawa, Fellini, Antonioni and Tarkovsky?And many others with their own phylosophy and cinematography language... Open your eyes, people
Charlie's suit jackets always looked like he slept on them the night before, waking up a half an hour before taping, throwing on his tie and spitting on his fingers while whisking his hair back with his right hand...
I think having an obsessive quality to your art, as Kubrick apparently had, is something that can really elevate your art to a whole new level.
Hence, the plethora of great films made by this director.
Dr. Strangelove is 3 in my top ten, what a knowledgeable film!
It's a very fun and smart movie. Probably his most watchable and entertaining movie. Besides maybe full metal jacket which I find hilarious but very dark at the same time. I'm not gonna lie most of his films are hard to watch and not really my favorites. Like 2001 I find very boring for the most part eyes wide shut isnt to great either also a clockwork orange is decent but it kind of drags same with the shining. But I have to say in almost all his movies there is a few great scenes that are extremely memorable and iconic.
It's awesome.
2001 A Space Odyssey was the first Stanley Kubrick movie i saw and the second was The Shining and later on Clock Work Orange and so fourth. The man was a genius when it came to directing.
You should see "Lolita," eventually. It has this pervy-pedo reputation but it's more like a subtle, dramatic tragedy with odd and nervous comic moments. I watched it recently and thought, "Holy Cow, is Kubrick getting great performances from his cast!" It was a clever career move. He's done "Spartacus," a massive epic with tons of big name stars. He turns around and does a small film with essentially a four-person cast. You know: to avoid getting typecast as Mr. Hollywood. He also filmed it in England and never came back - another clever career move. Have a great weekend, Jammer!
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Eyes Wide Shut
3. Barry Lyndon
4. The Shining
5. Dr. Strangelove
6. A Clockwork Orange
7. Full Metal Jacket
8. The Killing
9. Lolita
10. Paths of Glory
11. Spartacus
You forgot
Killer's kiss
Honestly dr strangelove was boring
I have only seen The Shinning, but that is a phenomenal piece of art.
You forgot The Day of the Fight.
@@Hritik9000 see clockwork orange
Amazing film reminds of fight club
Thank you so much for the video; your knowledge is greatly appreciated and has been incredibly helpful
The best, thanx for the upload
Fantastic interview. One of Charlie's best. Thank you.
Kubrick: best director/editor of all times.
Scorsese: best cinema teller of all times (and also great director)
what an incredible interview...
Another such director was Andrei Tarkovsky.
Made only 7 motion pictures.
You should check it out....
Here's Kubrick and Tarkovsky in a nutshell....
Kubrick only put significant things in frame...
Tarkovsky on the other hand made everything in the frame significant.
nice way of putting it.
2001 makes me very emotional. Just fyi. Now you know.
true! Tarkovsky disliked 2001 and Lolita although Kubrick loved Solaris and the Sacrifice :’
@@jonathanalvarado8766 Tarkovsky disliked 2001 because he felt that it portrayed the future as being without emotion and more about the technology, where as Tarkovsky made a film where human emotions are at the forefront and technology is in the background. It's really that simple, Tarkovsky felt 2001 was emotionless and his films were all about emotions
@@Hugh_Morris Tarkovsky could never appreciate things outside from his tiny world... Fellini loved 2001 and Kurosawa too...
He was my favorite, searched out everything he did including his unremembered "Barry Lyndon ".
Barry lyndon is simply the most beautiful film ever directed
Fantastic interview, wonderful in all aspects.
Scorsese shakes his head when Jan Harlan says Kubrick loved his films. I know praise is hard but come on Marty, of course Kubrick loved your films, just like we all do!🫡
thank you for that. a very romantic conversation.
A worthy conversation about the cinematic genius of Stanley Kubrick. And there is nobody today doing the caliber of interviews that Charlie Rose was master at creating. It is a shame that we have nothing on the order of a Charlie' Rose to help illuminate the personalities, minds and thoughts of countless talented and accomplished individuals and from all walks of life. He had a genius for conversation that has all, but disappeared from mass media. He knew how to listen and to ask the right questions, and not give overdo attention to himself. The conversations we are not presently having and listening to is a national tragedy.
Holly. A fantastic comment. And if you are available I'd love to talk more on this subject.
So fully do I agree. We lost something when he was unceremoniously cut down, and respectlessly cut out of our public discourse, for something that was truly none of our public business... But, like Kubrick: his work, his art, remains.
If scorsese confirms it then there is no doubt kubrick was the greatest along with fellini,
Shows you what a humble class act Scorsese is!
@crazy knight teleported from medieval times , if you know cinema in its truest form then you would know what Scorsese is for cinema.
And what Kubrick was.
Ingmar Bergman
Top 5: Kubrick, Bergman, Kurosawa, Tarkovsky, Fellini.
Kunga Sagar yeah why would you include orson wells here ;)
All great flicks,but I’m still fascinated by(A Clockwork Orange)!!
A terrific group conversation. So glad I stumbled on this. Thanks for posting.
One of the guests, Jan, shared that Kubrick had 10% talent, 90% hard work. It was Thomas Edison explained that his genius came from 10% inspiration and 90% perspiration, and I believe Kubrick must have had a much higher percentage of talent, given his filmography and that he made money as a chess player. Tesla may have been in a select group that have 90% talent and 10% work!
The most successful people simply don't give up, their work ethic is unrelenting. They simply have a unbelievable drive and determination !!!.
The ends of PATH OF GLORY.. PHENOMENAL!
great show, everyone were fantastic
From what little I have come to know about Stanley Kubrick, it seems clear enough that he was 'Bad'. He was the undisputed badass. I feel most people can identify with that outspoken contrarian mindset that it takes to go, "no... no no, that isn't the way..", but most people either don't voice up or just make clumsy work of stating their mind. Kubrick is like the king of successfully contradicting "societies rules" in the most awesome way and being deemed winner in the long run
We should all be so lucky to have someone as intelligent, beautiful and classy as Christiane in our lives.
Nothing makes me happier than hearing Marty laugh
back when directors were called filmmakers.
Because they were. And they were making films. Now they make "movies" while the most popular are made mostly by a CGI department. However, you can't chroma key talent on a green screen I guess.
The man was simply the best !! RIP the kid from the Bronx…
i love that scorcese laughs at the christiane's stories of kubrick. it's like he understands and relates to kubrick's little neuroticisms in his personal life while never having met him.
The fact that his two relatives (wife) and brother-in-law are in this interview is fantastic. It’s just sad that his fellow, late Jewish American immigrant (KirkDouglas) wasn’t alive to be interviewed at this time😢😭
Scorsese is such a natural public speaker. 👏
The whole Charlie Rose format is an ill-fit for a topic like Kubrick. Whenever they try to communicate nuances, nooks and crannies in Kubrick's personality, his art, Rose tries to fill and level them with soundbitey simplifications.
Part of Rose's talent is revealed in the guests he assembled. Such was the case in this superb triple interview. His wife, for a personal take on the man, to one of his most important collaborators, and another great contemporary director, Scorsese. It just doesn't get any better than this.
On a filmatic note, I think the true genius of Kubrick was in his ability to make entirely DIFFERENT films, and to never, ever do anything less than at the highest level, or what we call "perfection." The fact is, any filmmaker would have been proud to have made even ONE of his masterworks, but when you view his entire life's work, his output was so prodigious and truly in the realm of "genius," it's nearly impossible not to use the one word that he eschewed so vehemently.
He clearly had a genius for choosing the right people to be with.
Keir dullea seemed to be an awfully good choice.
Martin Scorsese made a point about 2001 that has never occurred to me before, that the sense of time in the film was completely at odds in a way, with the zeitgeist of the Sixties up to that point, which was very fast-moving and celebratory, full of froth and fizz. Swinging London and all that. 2001 kind of stopped people in their tracks. This was something serious and deep that people had to think about. I think this was the cause of the negative reaction in some people. They resented having to think !
Stanley Kubrick playing chess against a computer as mentioned in the clip is just the kind of film I'd love to see.
When Jan Harlan mentions Stanley admiring Scorsese that man's eyes told a thousand stories of pride.
I was 9 when my best friend’s dad took us to see 2001. What a film?
Was he an actor's director? Peter Ustinov won the Oscar for Spartacus. He improvised that 'umbrella' scene. Outshined Laurence Olivier and Charles Laughton.
The thing that makes a great artist is a great mind that makes great art
no argument.
So much is about finding the right questions - and about pursuing them without thinking of life as a competition and game to dominate others.
I so love Paths of Glory.