Ad Nauseam vs Talion, the Kindly Lord which one to play?

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

Комментарии • 44

  • @alanoftheinfinite
    @alanoftheinfinite 6 месяцев назад +9

    I believe doing a 2 hour deep dive would provide significant evidence to the conversation! These analytical reviews help improve my understanding and allow me to make better decisions going into events. Thanks for your contribution and I look forward to the next one!

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 месяцев назад

      maybe a livestream ... humm.

  • @batatac4mil86
    @batatac4mil86 6 месяцев назад +24

    Give us that 2 hour video!

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 месяцев назад +2

      I have seen this comment alot now. taking it into consideration.

    • @LGTeGeTeGe
      @LGTeGeTeGe 6 месяцев назад +1

      We wanna watch that 2 hour video lol

    • @pippofelipe6901
      @pippofelipe6901 6 месяцев назад

      Marathon mons 🏃!

  • @АлександрМихайлов-ч5ф
    @АлександрМихайлов-ч5ф 5 месяцев назад

    Mons, you made a great answer here. Talion is a good mid-range value engine, it hurts only fast ad nauseam strategies. Thank you.

  • @frankyg821
    @frankyg821 6 месяцев назад +5

    Taking out talion and leaving the rest of grixis gives you turbo rog si, which is better than any other grixis commanders. Grixis midrange is weaker. White is better for midrange because of access to silences to close the game. Rog si just had to go fast

  • @crustycarhartt
    @crustycarhartt 6 месяцев назад +1

    21:52 this is something I'm planning to talk about with a new friend. I like the timely nature of this video!

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 месяцев назад

      happy to help your talk with your friend.

  • @T_v_W2
    @T_v_W2 6 месяцев назад +1

    11:02 What is Braids doing here?

  • @doggosgoboom6721
    @doggosgoboom6721 6 месяцев назад +2

    Could we get a new analysis for Tayam? it's been some time and he's been lurkin

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 месяцев назад +1

      YEs. We actully can.

  • @justinlopez8977
    @justinlopez8977 6 месяцев назад +3

    Lets! go! blues! clues! 👏👏, 👏👏👏

  • @bobbeh_tv
    @bobbeh_tv 6 месяцев назад +4

    Why not both?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 месяцев назад +1

      you can go both. All I am saying is that the ones that have gone both have on average lower winrate then those that don't play both. That play either.

  • @oldbordergeek
    @oldbordergeek 6 месяцев назад

    i play a sub par general but i like to make it good. i went with talion and grim hireling and hoarding broodlord. its just stays fun. really ad naus is one way but taintes the whole list, right? should i play necropotense in esper???

  • @itzmimz8238
    @itzmimz8238 6 месяцев назад +1

    I play both

  • @KeirStarmerFan123
    @KeirStarmerFan123 6 месяцев назад

    why are some of your searches excluding dauthi?

  • @Dubbios
    @Dubbios 6 месяцев назад +1

    As a Tivit player, trying it to build it for the new meta; this seems to tell me that playing negro is a good idea. I'm I right?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 месяцев назад +1

      necro struggels a bit outside of red. final fortune is key to make it better. That is what I have learned from looking at data. But it could work fine still for you. data is not everythig.

    • @Dubbios
      @Dubbios 6 месяцев назад

      @@cedhtv thanks man! You are the best!

  • @frankyg821
    @frankyg821 6 месяцев назад +3

    Why not both, I think both are good in both strategies

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 месяцев назад +1

      you can go both. All I am saying is that the ones that have gone both have on average lower winrate then those that don't play both. That play either.

  • @zweis
    @zweis 6 месяцев назад +2

    The only people who watch this channel are nerds who have way too much time to waste on cEDH. Of course we'll watch a 2 hour analysis

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 месяцев назад

      well this might be true.

  • @deeds2r
    @deeds2r 6 месяцев назад

    What about Notion Thief instead of Talion? Is Notion Thief + Ad Naus good?

    • @Lorry_Draws
      @Lorry_Draws 6 месяцев назад +2

      I think the best way to judge is the floor.
      Adnaus's floor is maybe put 6 in your hand because your life is too low.
      Talion's floor is draw 3ish if you play her later in the game.
      Notion thief's floor is draw 1, die to bowmasters

    • @deeds2r
      @deeds2r 6 месяцев назад

      @@Lorry_Draws good ole bow masters

    • @Lorry_Draws
      @Lorry_Draws 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@deeds2r I love it but it did mess up a lot of cards 😅

    • @deeds2r
      @deeds2r 6 месяцев назад

      @@Lorry_Draws big butt value baby 😂

  • @LGTeGeTeGe
    @LGTeGeTeGe 6 месяцев назад

    I have 2 decks, tymna thrasios and tivit. I play adnaus in the first and talion in the second. I think that having a 4 cmc card doesnt hurt that much if the rest of the deck is cheap, but im fucking crazy and i play seedborn muse in my adnaus deck so no room for my talion there lol

  • @msolace580
    @msolace580 6 месяцев назад

    you just put talion into TnK over/+ one ring, its a boss. talion control loses red which is too good right now. Breena is another choice. dont cut ad naus from tk ..... necro isnt in every TnK ether. But we should maybe go faster, as Stella is a beast !

  • @thetangelo1375
    @thetangelo1375 6 месяцев назад +2

    Pick a lane!

  • @marlonlam6959
    @marlonlam6959 6 месяцев назад +4

    oh shit. first.

  • @fernandob2275
    @fernandob2275 6 месяцев назад +1

    Play neither and play Sharuum instead

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 месяцев назад

      well said.