I haven't watched one of your videos, or any other video in general audiophile community in a long time. I watched this video just now and i can say two things with extreme confidence. Your ethics and style are still intact. Your in-depth accuracy based analysis is still the champion of headphone reviews on YT. Secondly, the way you mix in background music is a true work of art. Other creators should take notes on how to mix the BGM with commentary from you. Keep up the good work brother.👍👍
I'll be interested to hear what you have to say in part two. I got these for typical music studio use, and not for spatial audio. I hadn't used Atmos before trying it on the S5x, so I don't have anything to compare to. My impression is that it's fun but nothing like listening to other types of surround sound with speakers. I don't feel like I could use headphones to position elements in a 5.1 mix.
Which one would you advice for mixing "low end". Bass and Kick. (EDM and hip hop). Ollo S5x vsS4x or the AA HI65? I saw your review of the AAudio 65 and you said it had fast transients. All i care is the low end. Thanks in advance. (i have the hedd studio monitors, but room is not perfect). Was looking for a headphone so i dont have to go back and fort to check in car. Cheers
Given those three options, I'd probably get the S5x. The AA headphones may make you feel like you need to add more bass--which will end up sounding aggressive with any other gear. Might also want to check the Rode NTH100.
Great review..If you were a classical- cinematic music producer which headphone would you choose ? Are there sub 1000+ solutions or you can t avoid spending a good amount of money to have good separation and technicalities?I have dt 880 but when the mix gets busy I start struggling to hear the orchestration.I also have a difficult question..Do you think headphones are overpriced in comparison to iems in terms of technical performance???For example a "500" dollars headphone has the same technicalities as a "500" dollar iem or the iem beats it clearly for music production and hi end audiophile listening ?
I'm not a recording artist, so I don't know of any particular headphone. But, given your wish to have a headphone that provides greater detail and separation, yes there are several options. Austrian Audio has several headphones that fit that description; they are very revealing, highly detailed, and not remotely pleasant for badly recorded music. I haven't heard any other headphones that provide as much detail and clarity until the HD800s and Focal Clear. Both headphones and IEMs are overpriced. IEMs are not any better than headphones at anything. IEMs and headphones all have their particular sound signatures, fit, build, and driver requirements--but it's a fallacy that any high-priced headphone automatically is better than any cheap/cheaper alternative. There's a certain obsession by some audiophiles with headphones and IEMs for music production--partly because some companies try to promote that idea. The truth is that mixing and mastering artists always use monitors/speakers, and you'd be surprised how some simple bedsheets draped from the ceiling, and correct placement of speakers will do for immersion--something that cannot be replicated by headphones or IEMs, irrespective of their price. If you're interested in music production, I suggest going to professional A/V forums and reading their discussions. Audiophiles make up nonsense to justify their personal beliefs--often without any substance or evidence. Professionals use headphones only to check their mixes, and rely heavily on their speakers--which goes to show how little import headphones really are in this application. Finally, as for IEMs for mixing/mastering...I don't know if any mix/master professional uses them. I'm not sure why they would.
@@NoThemeReviews I have read hundreds of reviews and discussions in music production forums, I also read that the award winning Adele's music producer works almost entirely with hi end audeze headphones..I also saw a non sponsored review from a guy that was saying that his moondrop blessing 2 beated his hd 600 in technicalities.. That's why I made the question..And for last I heard the song you posted on the video with the footsteps and I ve noticed more than 12 with my p1 max planar iems ..That's why I asked ..Thanks for the unbiased response..I m looking forward to see more reviews..👍
Do you have any recommendations for headphones for studio (Mainly mixing and mastering) in the $400 range? I am on the fence between the Olloaudio S4X and the HD600.
@@NoThemeReviews I was thinking of getting the DT880 but avoided it cause I heard people had issues with Beyerdynamic headphones and them having siblance. In your opinion do you hear a difference in headphone quality between ones with low ohm requirements and ones with high like the DT 880. I know the S4X only need 32 Ohms
@@NoThemeReviews If it came between the DT880 Pro x and the Olloaudio S4X, do you think the DT 880 out performs it in terms of neutrality for mixing and mastering?
Should I choose S5X over S4X if I want the most neutral sound? I love Avantone Planar's neutral sound but they are too heavy and not comfortable for me.
I know these are for recording studios/engineers, but how are they for use just as audiophile music listening headphones? As they have a flat frequency response, would it work well with equalisation to custom tune as the listener prefers? Thanks for the great review, as usual
“Audiophile” is a loaded term, and really it comes down to preferences. Plenty of people will find OLLO headphones dull, because of the unemphasized bass or the treble isn’t sparkly enough or whatever. So, I can’t say if any one person WILL like the S5x, just that it’s a worthy contender among the multitude of options. As for EQ, I found that the S5x responds well to it.
@@Criticalmaze Better in what way? They are not neutral, have a significant sibilance emphasis, and have below average detail and clarity. I'm sure you CAN use them in a studio, but there are many better alternatives.
Comfort is fairly subjective, but I don’t think OLLO makes the most comfortable headphones. If you have difficulty with the 1990, I can’t imagine the S5X would be much better.
@@NoThemeReviews thanks for the quick reply. Any suggestions, I need to use them for editing RUclips video (talking narrative and music so mixing) Skype/zoom calls and transcribing music. So separation, neutral is important and comfort and big priority’s. Hd6xx, 880 premium, hi-65x would these be better? Or other suggestions would be great.
It really comes down to the reason you don’t find the 1990 comfortable. If the earpads are too small or the clamp is too tight or the headband doesn’t have enough padding or the earpads make your ears uncomfortable-all possibilities. The Austrian Audio headphones are not neutral. But they are very comfortable I think. They will help you find imperfections in your mix and produce separation, detail and clarity. The 880 is more comfy than the 1990 mostly due to its lighter weight. Fairly neutral but otherwise about average in detail and clarity. The 6xx has a fairly tight clamp but large earpads so that pressure will be distributed along the side of your face. It is reasonably neutral. You might also take a look at the NTH100, OneOdio Monitor 80, Avantone Planar. Maybe even consider an IEM like the BASN MT PRO, Ikko OH1, or Moondrop Quarks.
@@NoThemeReviews the headband has too much clamp force on the 1990 and my ears get really hot for some reason. I'm very interested in the Hi-65x and 880. 880 do a premium edition with even comfy headband. So these seem to be a good headphone for price and what i need them for. 6xx - from your reviews you describe as average for mix and produce separation, detail and clarity. Would 880 be better? I guess it's trying these thing to find out. OneOdio Monitor 80, Avantone Planar i'll looking these! Thanks. I already have IEM's but I need open back so I can hear whats going on around the house (family) whilst i'm working :)
@@NoThemeReviews cmon dude, you're a reviewer, that's literally your job description. Ask someone for a sample, and if all else fails, buy a set then resell it
@@iamthe1234567890 This isn't my "job." It's my hobby, and I don't make a living off it. I'm not remotely interested in the NDH30. And, frankly, just like you, I have plenty of good reasons to not throw $600 down the drain just to satisfy somebody else's curiosity.
@@iamthe1234567890 You're looking for zshill reviews lol. No theme reviews gear that he gets a hold of or personally owns. Personally I think that's the problem. When you turn your hobby into a stupid you tube job and no longer have passion and just shill a product. Sorry for the rant.
Just a random question, did anyone try the ndh 30, I'm not welling to take any chances with that headphone. I wasn't impressed by the ndh20 so I was curious to hear anyone who's trustworthy and not zeos, to talk about the ndh30. I heard some praise for the ndh30 but I'm not sold on their praise cause it sounds unrealistic, over exaggerated claims are a common theme among them.
@@NoThemeReviews bro i have a hd599 , i need a budget dongle dac which should i go for , i looked onto 7hz 71, Shanling UA1S or what you suggest. Strictly under 50usd
@@NoThemeReviews your ikko video was the one who let me here , what a review man it was awesome and it felt very sweet, peaceful and felt positive vibes
Holy she ite!!! When ur video came up on my tv this morning, thought it said ollo audio Sex...smh...lol...think i need ta get my eyee scheked out....Nice review on deez, NTR...
I haven't watched one of your videos, or any other video in general audiophile community in a long time. I watched this video just now and i can say two things with extreme confidence.
Your ethics and style are still intact. Your in-depth accuracy based analysis is still the champion of headphone reviews on YT.
Secondly, the way you mix in background music is a true work of art. Other creators should take notes on how to mix the BGM with commentary from you.
Keep up the good work brother.👍👍
This is just a FYI. It's very hard to read your intro screen with the colors and text. Your reviews are excellent.
Hmmm. Ok. I’ll hopefully remember to make the text bigger and try a different font
I'll be interested to hear what you have to say in part two. I got these for typical music studio use, and not for spatial audio. I hadn't used Atmos before trying it on the S5x, so I don't have anything to compare to. My impression is that it's fun but nothing like listening to other types of surround sound with speakers. I don't feel like I could use headphones to position elements in a 5.1 mix.
Wow. Waited for this review! Thanks
Which one would you advice for mixing "low end". Bass and Kick. (EDM and hip hop). Ollo S5x vsS4x or the AA HI65? I saw your review of the AAudio 65 and you said it had fast transients. All i care is the low end. Thanks in advance. (i have the hedd studio monitors, but room is not perfect). Was looking for a headphone so i dont have to go back and fort to check in car. Cheers
Given those three options, I'd probably get the S5x. The AA headphones may make you feel like you need to add more bass--which will end up sounding aggressive with any other gear. Might also want to check the Rode NTH100.
@@NoThemeReviews thanks alot.
Great review..If you were a classical- cinematic music producer which headphone would you choose ? Are there sub 1000+ solutions or you can t avoid spending a good amount of money to have good separation and technicalities?I have dt 880 but when the mix gets busy I start struggling to hear the orchestration.I also have a difficult question..Do you think headphones are overpriced in comparison to iems in terms of technical performance???For example a "500" dollars headphone has the same technicalities as a "500" dollar iem or the iem beats it clearly for music production and hi end audiophile listening ?
I'm not a recording artist, so I don't know of any particular headphone. But, given your wish to have a headphone that provides greater detail and separation, yes there are several options. Austrian Audio has several headphones that fit that description; they are very revealing, highly detailed, and not remotely pleasant for badly recorded music. I haven't heard any other headphones that provide as much detail and clarity until the HD800s and Focal Clear.
Both headphones and IEMs are overpriced. IEMs are not any better than headphones at anything. IEMs and headphones all have their particular sound signatures, fit, build, and driver requirements--but it's a fallacy that any high-priced headphone automatically is better than any cheap/cheaper alternative.
There's a certain obsession by some audiophiles with headphones and IEMs for music production--partly because some companies try to promote that idea. The truth is that mixing and mastering artists always use monitors/speakers, and you'd be surprised how some simple bedsheets draped from the ceiling, and correct placement of speakers will do for immersion--something that cannot be replicated by headphones or IEMs, irrespective of their price.
If you're interested in music production, I suggest going to professional A/V forums and reading their discussions. Audiophiles make up nonsense to justify their personal beliefs--often without any substance or evidence. Professionals use headphones only to check their mixes, and rely heavily on their speakers--which goes to show how little import headphones really are in this application. Finally, as for IEMs for mixing/mastering...I don't know if any mix/master professional uses them. I'm not sure why they would.
@@NoThemeReviews I have read hundreds of reviews and discussions in music production forums, I also read that the award winning Adele's music producer works almost entirely with hi end audeze headphones..I also saw a non sponsored review from a guy that was saying that his moondrop blessing 2 beated his hd 600 in technicalities.. That's why I made the question..And for last I heard the song you posted on the video with the footsteps and I ve noticed more than 12 with my p1 max planar iems ..That's why I asked ..Thanks for the unbiased response..I m looking forward to see more reviews..👍
Do you have any recommendations for headphones for studio (Mainly mixing and mastering) in the $400 range? I am on the fence between the Olloaudio S4X and the HD600.
If those are your options, probably the S4X. But also consider the NTH100, DT 700 Pro X, Avantone Planar, DT 880 250ohm variant.
@@NoThemeReviews I was thinking of getting the DT880 but avoided it cause I heard people had issues with Beyerdynamic headphones and them having siblance. In your opinion do you hear a difference in headphone quality between ones with low ohm requirements and ones with high like the DT 880. I know the S4X only need 32 Ohms
@@Lucky5111 Only some of Beyer headphones have sibilance issues-the 990, 1990, T1 1st Gen, T5p. The 880 is fairly neutral.
@@NoThemeReviews If it came between the DT880 Pro x and the Olloaudio S4X, do you think the DT 880 out performs it in terms of neutrality for mixing and mastering?
Should I choose S5X over S4X if I want the most neutral sound? I love Avantone Planar's neutral sound but they are too heavy and not comfortable for me.
The OLLO headphones are pretty similar. But, I’d say that the 5X is a bit more neutral.
@@NoThemeReviews the vocals are more distant on s5x or the sundara ?
Thank you
@@ChrisKeyman Sundara
I know these are for recording studios/engineers, but how are they for use just as audiophile music listening headphones? As they have a flat frequency response, would it work well with equalisation to custom tune as the listener prefers?
Thanks for the great review, as usual
“Audiophile” is a loaded term, and really it comes down to preferences. Plenty of people will find OLLO headphones dull, because of the unemphasized bass or the treble isn’t sparkly enough or whatever. So, I can’t say if any one person WILL like the S5x, just that it’s a worthy contender among the multitude of options. As for EQ, I found that the S5x responds well to it.
@No Theme Reviews Thanks for the reply, I suppose its kinda as suspected. Keep up the good work 👏
@@NoThemeReviews Are the 560s better for studio monitoring?
@@Criticalmaze Better in what way? They are not neutral, have a significant sibilance emphasis, and have below average detail and clarity. I'm sure you CAN use them in a studio, but there are many better alternatives.
Hi! For you best overall headphone under 600€ right now?
SRH-1540
Is the s5x more comfortable to wear than 1990? I have the 1990 and I can’t wear them for more that 1 hour.
Comfort is fairly subjective, but I don’t think OLLO makes the most comfortable headphones. If you have difficulty with the 1990, I can’t imagine the S5X would be much better.
@@NoThemeReviews thanks for the quick reply. Any suggestions, I need to use them for editing RUclips video (talking narrative and music so mixing) Skype/zoom calls and transcribing music. So separation, neutral is important and comfort and big priority’s. Hd6xx, 880 premium, hi-65x would these be better? Or other suggestions would be great.
It really comes down to the reason you don’t find the 1990 comfortable. If the earpads are too small or the clamp is too tight or the headband doesn’t have enough padding or the earpads make your ears uncomfortable-all possibilities.
The Austrian Audio headphones are not neutral. But they are very comfortable I think. They will help you find imperfections in your mix and produce separation, detail and clarity.
The 880 is more comfy than the 1990 mostly due to its lighter weight. Fairly neutral but otherwise about average in detail and clarity.
The 6xx has a fairly tight clamp but large earpads so that pressure will be distributed along the side of your face. It is reasonably neutral.
You might also take a look at the NTH100, OneOdio Monitor 80, Avantone Planar. Maybe even consider an IEM like the BASN MT PRO, Ikko OH1, or Moondrop Quarks.
@@NoThemeReviews the headband has too much clamp force on the 1990 and my ears get really hot for some reason.
I'm very interested in the Hi-65x and 880. 880 do a premium edition with even comfy headband. So these seem to be a good headphone for price and what i need them for.
6xx - from your reviews you describe as average for mix and produce separation, detail and clarity. Would 880 be better? I guess it's trying these thing to find out.
OneOdio Monitor 80, Avantone Planar i'll looking these! Thanks. I already have IEM's but I need open back so I can hear whats going on around the house (family) whilst i'm working :)
Just curious, what are your thoughts on the Focal Clear OG in 2023?
If you can find them used you might get a deal.
It's a great headphone, though intended for critical listening. It's comfy, has good construction, and a unique, detailed sound.
If its possible please review the neumann ndh30 and compare it to s5x 🙏
I can’t justify spending money on the NDH30.
@@NoThemeReviews cmon dude, you're a reviewer, that's literally your job description. Ask someone for a sample, and if all else fails, buy a set then resell it
@@iamthe1234567890 This isn't my "job." It's my hobby, and I don't make a living off it. I'm not remotely interested in the NDH30. And, frankly, just like you, I have plenty of good reasons to not throw $600 down the drain just to satisfy somebody else's curiosity.
@@iamthe1234567890 You're looking for zshill reviews lol. No theme reviews gear that he gets a hold of or personally owns. Personally I think that's the problem. When you turn your hobby into a stupid you tube job and no longer have passion and just shill a product. Sorry for the rant.
Just a random question, did anyone try the ndh 30, I'm not welling to take any chances with that headphone.
I wasn't impressed by the ndh20 so I was curious to hear anyone who's trustworthy and not zeos, to talk about the ndh30.
I heard some praise for the ndh30 but I'm not sold on their praise cause it sounds unrealistic, over exaggerated claims are a common theme among them.
Apparently not! The price tag is a huge turn-off, especially when there are many capable headphones well under that mark.
@@NoThemeReviews indeed that seems to be the case.
Nice review 👌
Great review as always. What are your favorite headphones to listen to these days?
I've been rotating between the MoFi, Zeus, and the MDR-MA900
@@NoThemeReviews thanks!
No theme reviews, Are you on instagram bro?
Nope
@@NoThemeReviews bro i have a hd599 , i need a budget dongle dac which should i go for , i looked onto 7hz 71, Shanling UA1S or what you suggest. Strictly under 50usd
@@lowbudgetpcmr8122 I'm sure both of those are fine. You may also want to look at the Ikko ITM01, which as a few EQ presets.
@@NoThemeReviews your ikko video was the one who let me here , what a review man it was awesome and it felt very sweet, peaceful and felt positive vibes
Holy she ite!!! When ur video came up on my tv this morning, thought it said ollo audio Sex...smh...lol...think i need ta get my eyee scheked out....Nice review on deez, NTR...
Lol. That’s an interesting product idea.
@@NoThemeReviews yes it is!! Maybe at the next board meeting, bring that one up...lol
"Nice review on deez.."
deez nutz?
You should have left the S4X out of this review. It gets really confusing, and a separate S4X review video would have been better.
Umm. There IS a separate 4x review.