Some great info here. I am back to bikes after 35 years and my wife had never been a pillion until recently and she loves it. Whether driving or riding my consideration has always been my passengers comfort and safety. There seems to be a culture of 'me first' driving these days. I tend to back of and let them get on with it as long as they are out of my way.
A brilliant feature with advice that I found myself hearing whilst carrying a pillion for the first for a long time at the weekend. Riding the same GSA with the boxes, dismounting proved a bit tricky for my other half. An initial perfect 10 was followed by a dismount straight onto her backside! Oh how we laughed... She then adopted the slide down onto the front seat, with the side stand down and obviously after I had got off, perfect 10. Again I'd seen you feature this on your channel. The single track roads, 25% gradients, blind bends and crests on the 'tops' of the Yorkshire Dales were a little challenging two-up but with your analytical commentary in my head we made it over with incident. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and tips, a great channel. All the best.
Really really appreciated this video. I just have just passed my DAS after 7 years of riding 125cc 2 strokes and have never carried a pillion before. I bought a 2009 triumph street triple 675r and it is quite punch on the throttle so have spent the entire day practicing riding smooth as possible in preperation for taking my girlfriend for a ride tomorrow. Will only be on 20-30mph roads for the route we're taking as she has never been on a motorcycle and i have never carried someone. This is a great insite into how to make her feel safe with me. Thank you very much my man, it's greatly appreciated and feel it'll be a much safer and enjoyable experience for us both.
Also very tempted to sell the triumph already and buy a bike more simular to the adventure style, the triumph is amazing don't get me wrong but you can hear it whispering in your ear to hit the throttle lol. I definitely want a tourer for future.
Great video guys. My ‘Stig’ is very relaxed on the bike and often nods off for a quick nap. When she started and before she rode with me, she had a ‘pillion lesson’ with a local riding school which gave her a lot of confidence being in the hands of a professional. We have now ridden many miles together - Germany, Scotland, N & S Wales, Northumberland, Sussex Coast and are riding down to Southern Spain in August; as you described, a wonderful and intimate experience. 👍👍🏍👫👍👍
My Mrs doesn't ride pillion very often but when she does personally I find the Bluetooth comms indispensable as she can tell me how she's feeling, we can exchange information more easily and she is also another pair of eyes. Her saying have you seen x,y or z and me responding positively also increases her confidence in me as a rider too and she knows I'm paying attention to the ride. Getting on the bike she gets on 1st on the riders seat then shuffles back onto the pillion as she can't step up that easily on the GS. I find that once I'm on turning the bars to the left helps bring the bike more upright so it's easier to get off the sidestand. Getting off she does in the usual way but we always confirm when she's going to and that I'm ready to take the strain.The biggest issues for me are usually at very low speed or when stopping so comms are vital so I can tell her what I'm going to do and for her to keep still! I also find the comms add to the togetherness experience you mention, particularly on longer runs where we chat quite a lot. As you've mentioned being smoother and bringing things into action in your riding plan earlier makes for a better experience for both rider and pillion. Strangely I never listen to music on a bike either solo or with a pillion but that's just personal choice isn't it.
Hey buddy. Very wise words there and glad to hear you have a system for when riding with your pillion. Bluetooth is the way forward and so helps with communication and trust in the rider. Great stuff. Ride safe :)
We do loads of two-up touring so I'm blessed with an experienced pillion. I'd hardly know she's there sometimes and ironically, the biggest compliment is when she nearly nods off! Critical times for me are when moving at walking pace or stationary. Doesn't take much to upset the balance if there's an unexpected shift from the pillion! Well practiced with routines now for the pillion to get on, get off, stretch legs, numb bum shuffle at traffic lights etc! There should be an IAP training course for pillions. (Institute of advanced pillions 😁)
Excellent. Very useful, even if we are experienced IAM, good to look and check our skills. I like the romantic bits: lovely to seeing couples enjoying the bike together.
And subscribed. Good video. On the mounting aspect, personally I let the Mrs get on the bike first. With the bike on the side stand, She simply gets on, scooches back onto her seat and then I get on. I then turn the wheel straight and there’s never been an issue with getting the bike in place for the off. We’ve found this by far the easiest way. I ride a Kawasaki Nomad, so maybe to do with the style of bike. Anyhoo, great video guys. Great to hear the accents and see the roads of the UK again. Greetings from an ex-Brit now living in BC.
Great video.I've been riding for a few years now and I have my other half as pillion since day I got my bike.Thankfully she is a lightweight and once on the move you won't really notice she's back there.Good tips there.
It's best to set up the suspension before loading the bike when it's an electronic adjustable one. The little motor adjusting it lives a bit longer this way :-)
Thank you very much for putting this together. My wife are new to pillion riding on my GS and we both found it extremely helpful. I had hoped you would also show the person getting off as this is an area my wife struggles with. Again many thanks
Thanks for the kind words matey. Hope you both have many adventures together. Getting off is the repeat (in reverse of getting on) but she will get the hang of it I’m sure :) Ride safe stu :)
Excellent input on riding with a pillion. Gentle acceleration/deceleration, non jerky manuevers, respecting your pillions need to feel safe and communication all indispensable factors. And off course indicative of a mature rider.
Great Video guys, I just ordered my 1200 GS so that me and the wife can ride out together, will be my first time with a pillion on long rides, even though the wife has(had her own bike) she a little worried. So after watching the Video it will help me and her to start a new chapter in our biker life. Thanks for sharing. Ps I am a Cornishman but now live in Germany, nice to see the home land from a bikesr view .
I've always heard the opposite in corning. I've always been told if you are going into say a left curve that the rider leans in just like normal, and that all the passenger needs to do is to just look over the opposite shoulder.. So if you are doing a left curve, rider leans towards the left, and passenger just moves their head so they are looking over the right shoulder of the driver. I believe the "science" behind that thought is that when both riders lean the same direction its putting addition stress on your tires and reducing your contact patch thus reducing your available traction which could lean to a swash out. There is also the possibility that the passenger might lean too early, or lean way too much which could really cause issues in a curve. Thoughts???
good points there but the key is to make sure that the pillion relaxes and just goes with the flow of the bike and doesnt lean one way or another but also does not try to lean against anything... after a few miles they are relaxed and in the groove!
Years ago my girlfriend was terrified to get on the back of my VFR 750. So she went on a CBT course, she enjoyed it so much. However she got too confident and would actually try and steer the bike with her legs if she saw something interesting, and wanted me to turn.
I know this video is four years old. But this how I ride with my wife on the on the rear of the bike. Was advised by an bike tour company Bike Normandy to do my IAM to improve my riding. Which I did and passed the test first time about . 12years ago Found this upsetting because it was only an small group. Sadly put me of organised tours. But you two make me think it would be nice experience to tour with you two
your more than welcome, head over to Magellan Motorcycle Tours and take a look :) If you visit our website ridercamtv.com there is a £100 discount code for any tour too ;)
Hey guys Thank u 4 the side stand tip 😂 How easy is this!!!! Never thaught about it... Nice video. 👍 I m going on an Iceland trip with my wife on the GSA... looking so forward to it... Cheers Tom
I have a 2018 GSA Rallye low. It's a big bike & I'm a small guy at 5'-7", 69kg & 31 inseam. Effortless handling with the pillion; provided we follow some basic SOPs like the side stand is always down whilst mounting & dismounting. And off course ensuring the rest that your video has so well stressed upon👍
At 5:50 in the video you mention forward planning to change speed from national speed limit to 60 mph , correct me if I'm wrong but the national speed limit for a single carriageway road (which you appear to be on) is 60 mph , the white circle with black diagonal bar national speed limit sign only means 70 mph on motorways and dual carriageways that have a central armco divider / reservation . No wonder you GSer types get nabbed for speeding tear - arseing about at up to 10 mph above the limit .It's an outrage ! Lol, 😁. Otherwise another cracking VID.
A really useful film chaps and lady. As you know I'm very new to all this but one day maybe I'll take a pillion and this gives a great overview. Fully agree with using the gears to slow, but I've been faulted by my IAM observers to balance engine braking with using the brake lights, thus giving info to the follower. What do you think?
Hey matey, thanks for the very kind words. Glad you enjoyed the vid. Mark and I have both been picked up for (at times not breaking) and therefore not using the break light to give indication to other road users, although with the gsa the engine control, by keeping revs in the middle third is so good, it negates using the breaks all the time. I guess the secret is to have that 360 view and awareness around you all the time and if needed display the break but as your planning gets more proficient, the need to slow down with the break light illuminating diminishes automatically. If there is no one behind, or no need to (the following vehicle is not too close) show your change in speed and the signs all around such as the speed limit etc, why would you have to. Road craft talks about TUG (take use and give information) which comes from a whole host of things such as road position, head movement, brake lights etc do it all depends on what information you need to give balanced on the reason to why you need to. The same principle could be applied to moving back to lane 1 on a dual carriageway after overtaking, if there is no need to, why indicate back in, as the Highway Code amongst other things says you should return to the near side lane after your manoeuvre, so why the signal if no one is to benefit. Food for thought and every road situation is different and the police trainers do say gears are for going and breaks are for stopping, but keeping the bike in the middle third rev range give s you an amazing amount of engine control making the ride much more fluid :)
RiderCamTV thanks for the detailed answer. I'm with you guys on this, and feel rather like one has to show the brake lights to pass the test, rather than because it's the logical thing to do. As you say, the BM boxer gives so much braking one hardly has to use the brakes at all. For now, I've adopted the middle ground, using EB and flicking the brakes lights to keep everyone happy.
Hello both, really useful video as I’m just about to take my wife on the back of my bike for the first time. Can you please clarify, when stopping at a roundabout, T junction, pelican crossing etc do you as a rule stop with both feet down, or does one suffice the way it would with just you on the bike? Really enjoy all of your videos, keep up the good work 👍
There's so much precision and learning and its a whole process with a pillion... However, I went to India and saw 4 adults including rider on tiny scooters all the time; mostly 3 adults including the rider that's a common scene; but ladies sit sideways and carry babies and toddlers in their lap, while the older child sits on the fuel tank on motorcycle!
South- and South-East Asians are born on two wheels. It’s changing now as people get cars but when I was a kid going home to Thailand my cousins and aunties would ride me ragged on the back of Mums old Vespa or my cousins Honda. Family rides in the back of granddads Datsun pickup with all the cousins. It was great fun all of it, no kit at all.
My Mrs "stig" would often fall asleep on the back of my gixxers and never used to hold on she's a damn site braver than me. Now I own a S1000xr she hates it as she cant now see over the top of me!
An amazing compliment for a pillion to fall asleep. Shows your riding is great and the trust in you from you Mrs Stig is how it should be, an enjoyable experience for you both. Good work billy. :)
My pillion always falls asleep. The thump of my KLR single drones her off to lala land. I can always tell because her helmet will slowly come to rest on mine. Haha.
At 16.22 approaching a round-about, why did you not check over your left shoulder? Is this an advanced rider technique or did you forgot what mod 2 teaches you?
thanks for the question. Didn't need to check over the shoulder on the approach as there was no one behind following a mirror check and there are 2 lanes (one to the left and one to the right). As we were taking the information from the roundabout and traffic from at least 500 meters away, the focus was on the roundabout and when leaving the roundabout a left shoulder check was completed as is always needed, but as there was no traffic on the left or following on the approach and no way a vehicle could have appeared a mirror check sufficed in this instance. The mod2 is a good starter but there are many more things out there in the toolbox of riding that sometimes conflicts with the MOD2 as it isn't needed, like riding in the middle of the road, which is not the best place to be for view and putting your left foot down as sometimes the right foot is better. not saying either is better or worse than the other but the techniques learned in the advanced style of riding mean if there is no need to do something (as you have taken all the information from the road that you need, why do it). Ride safe
Hi, Thankyou for your informative response, got my mod2 next week, the instructor did mention about conflicting techniques in the advanced riding course. Reading back my own question it sounded a bit rude, it wasn't meant to be, sorry for that. Ride safe.
If this is advance riding, I think you must have missed one of the lessons, that lady you remonstrated against had already cleared her give way line, whereas you had yet to clear yours, so a little more forward planning, had you have been on test you would have been marked down for this, and if the lady had panicked and braked to a stop, then you would have failed. I am sure we all make mistakes from time to time, but it is perhaps better to keep our thoughts to ourselves rather than telling off other road users, I am sorry to mention this as your videos are very good and I like the scenery of where you both ride.
Thanks for the comments and yes we all make mistakes from time to time even advanced riders. Funny that she stopped quite out of the blue in the middle of the roundabout and as much planning as we did it still caught us out. It happens sometimes
the national speed limit on a single carriageway IS 60...you're not coming DOWN from the national speed limit TO 60 on a single carriage way...some advanced riding there...
Some great info here. I am back to bikes after 35 years and my wife had never been a pillion until recently and she loves it. Whether driving or riding my consideration has always been my passengers comfort and safety. There seems to be a culture of 'me first' driving these days. I tend to back of and let them get on with it as long as they are out of my way.
A brilliant feature with advice that I found myself hearing whilst carrying a pillion for the first for a long time at the weekend. Riding the same GSA with the boxes, dismounting proved a bit tricky for my other half. An initial perfect 10 was followed by a dismount straight onto her backside! Oh how we laughed... She then adopted the slide down onto the front seat, with the side stand down and obviously after I had got off, perfect 10. Again I'd seen you feature this on your channel.
The single track roads, 25% gradients, blind bends and crests on the 'tops' of the Yorkshire Dales were a little challenging two-up but with your analytical commentary in my head we made it over with incident. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and tips, a great channel. All the best.
Brilliant! Ride safe
Really really appreciated this video. I just have just passed my DAS after 7 years of riding 125cc 2 strokes and have never carried a pillion before. I bought a 2009 triumph street triple 675r and it is quite punch on the throttle so have spent the entire day practicing riding smooth as possible in preperation for taking my girlfriend for a ride tomorrow. Will only be on 20-30mph roads for the route we're taking as she has never been on a motorcycle and i have never carried someone. This is a great insite into how to make her feel safe with me. Thank you very much my man, it's greatly appreciated and feel it'll be a much safer and enjoyable experience for us both.
Also very tempted to sell the triumph already and buy a bike more simular to the adventure style, the triumph is amazing don't get me wrong but you can hear it whispering in your ear to hit the throttle lol. I definitely want a tourer for future.
glad you enjoyed it :)
Great video guys. My ‘Stig’ is very relaxed on the bike and often nods off for a quick nap. When she started and before she rode with me, she had a ‘pillion lesson’ with a local riding school which gave her a lot of confidence being in the hands of a professional. We have now ridden many miles together - Germany, Scotland, N & S Wales, Northumberland, Sussex Coast and are riding down to Southern Spain in August; as you described, a wonderful and intimate experience. 👍👍🏍👫👍👍
Thanks buddy. Riding is the only way to travel :)
My Mrs doesn't ride pillion very often but when she does personally I find the Bluetooth comms indispensable as she can tell me how she's feeling, we can exchange information more easily and she is also another pair of eyes. Her saying have you seen x,y or z and me responding positively also increases her confidence in me as a rider too and she knows I'm paying attention to the ride. Getting on the bike she gets on 1st on the riders seat then shuffles back onto the pillion as she can't step up that easily on the GS. I find that once I'm on turning the bars to the left helps bring the bike more upright so it's easier to get off the sidestand. Getting off she does in the usual way but we always confirm when she's going to and that I'm ready to take the strain.The biggest issues for me are usually at very low speed or when stopping so comms are vital so I can tell her what I'm going to do and for her to keep still! I also find the comms add to the togetherness experience you mention, particularly on longer runs where we chat quite a lot. As you've mentioned being smoother and bringing things into action in your riding plan earlier makes for a better experience for both rider and pillion. Strangely I never listen to music on a bike either solo or with a pillion but that's just personal choice isn't it.
Hey buddy. Very wise words there and glad to hear you have a system for when riding with your pillion. Bluetooth is the way forward and so helps with communication and trust in the rider. Great stuff. Ride safe :)
Thanks Mark great video as we are just beginning two up again
Regards Tony
Hey up! Great tip about the side stand and mounting! Never actually thought about it, great tip!
Glad it helped lambo. No point in making it difficult. Side stand all the way (well apart from when your riding) 👍
We do loads of two-up touring so I'm blessed with an experienced pillion. I'd hardly know she's there sometimes and ironically, the biggest compliment is when she nearly nods off! Critical times for me are when moving at walking pace or stationary. Doesn't take much to upset the balance if there's an unexpected shift from the pillion! Well practiced with routines now for the pillion to get on, get off, stretch legs, numb bum shuffle at traffic lights etc! There should be an IAP training course for pillions. (Institute of advanced pillions 😁)
Very true. IAP sounds like a brilliant idea :)
Excellent. Very useful, even if we are experienced IAM, good to look and check our skills. I like the romantic bits: lovely to seeing couples enjoying the bike together.
And subscribed.
Good video.
On the mounting aspect, personally I let the Mrs get on the bike first. With the bike on the side stand, She simply gets on, scooches back onto her seat and then I get on. I then turn the wheel straight and there’s never been an issue with getting the bike in place for the off. We’ve found this by far the easiest way.
I ride a Kawasaki Nomad, so maybe to do with the style of bike.
Anyhoo, great video guys. Great to hear the accents and see the roads of the UK again.
Greetings from an ex-Brit now living in BC.
Hey mate, thanks for the kind words and glad you enjoyed the video. Welcome to the ridercamtv family. Good tips there mate.
Ride safe :)
Great video.I've been riding for a few years now and I have my other half as pillion since day I got my bike.Thankfully she is a lightweight and once on the move you won't really notice she's back there.Good tips there.
Thanks buddy. Glad you enjoyed it. Ride safe :)
It's best to set up the suspension before loading the bike when it's an electronic adjustable one. The little motor adjusting it lives a bit longer this way :-)
Thank you very much for putting this together. My wife are new to pillion riding on my GS and we both found it extremely helpful. I had hoped you would also show the person getting off as this is an area my wife struggles with. Again many thanks
Thanks for the kind words matey. Hope you both have many adventures together. Getting off is the repeat (in reverse of getting on) but she will get the hang of it I’m sure :)
Ride safe stu :)
Interesting video gents and loads of information for a newbie like me who would like to take a pillion one day.
Loving the channel guys, great tips as always. Side stand down, simple but not thought of , yet gives you a safety net just in case
Thanks Clive. Glad your enjoying the channel. Ride safe
Excellent input on riding with a pillion. Gentle acceleration/deceleration, non jerky manuevers, respecting your pillions need to feel safe and communication all indispensable factors. And off course indicative of a mature rider.
Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot. Riding with a pillion is great fun :)
Great Video guys, I just ordered my 1200 GS so that me and the wife can ride out together, will be my first time with a pillion on long rides, even though the wife has(had her own bike) she a little worried. So after watching the Video it will help me and her to start a new chapter in our biker life. Thanks for sharing.
Ps I am a Cornishman but now live in Germany, nice to see the home land from a bikesr view .
Hey buddy thanks for the kind words. Means a lot to us. Glad we could help. Ride safe :)
Once again great job.
Star off the show goes to the Cornish Stig.
Cornish pillion stig is amazing :)
Elbow to the throat sounds most likely & all too familiar.
Great tips here as always & thank you for it.
I've always heard the opposite in corning. I've always been told if you are going into say a left curve that the rider leans in just like normal, and that all the passenger needs to do is to just look over the opposite shoulder.. So if you are doing a left curve, rider leans towards the left, and passenger just moves their head so they are looking over the right shoulder of the driver.
I believe the "science" behind that thought is that when both riders lean the same direction its putting addition stress on your tires and reducing your contact patch thus reducing your available traction which could lean to a swash out. There is also the possibility that the passenger might lean too early, or lean way too much which could really cause issues in a curve. Thoughts???
good points there but the key is to make sure that the pillion relaxes and just goes with the flow of the bike and doesnt lean one way or another but also does not try to lean against anything... after a few miles they are relaxed and in the groove!
Years ago my girlfriend was terrified to get on the back of my VFR 750. So she went on a CBT course, she enjoyed it so much. However she got too confident and would actually try and steer the bike with her legs if she saw something interesting, and wanted me to turn.
great that she did her CBT etc, but a scary thought to have a pillion trying to steer the bike. eek!
Really enjoyed watching this, most informative . 👍
Thanks for the kind words Jim. Glad you enjoyed it :)
Ride safe buddy
I know this video is four years old. But this how I ride with my wife on the on the rear of the bike. Was advised by an bike tour company Bike Normandy to do my IAM to improve my riding. Which I did and passed the test first time about . 12years ago Found this upsetting because it was only an small group. Sadly put me of organised tours. But you two make me think it would be nice experience to tour with you two
your more than welcome, head over to Magellan Motorcycle Tours and take a look :) If you visit our website ridercamtv.com there is a £100 discount code for any tour too ;)
Really nice video, guys. Congrats and thanks for the good work. 👍
Thanks for the kind words Rui. It was fun filming it, but pillion stig stoke the show ;)
Hey guys
Thank u 4 the side stand tip 😂
How easy is this!!!! Never thaught about it...
Nice video. 👍
I m going on an Iceland trip with my wife on the GSA... looking so forward to it...
Cheers Tom
Hey Tom. Thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed the vid. You’ll both love Iceland. It’s amazing :)
Thomas Geser doesn't work on my KLR. The suspension sags and can't get the stand up unless I lean over dangerously.
Great informative video, looks like the standard of car driving in the West Country is as bad as elsewhere.
Unfortunately it is :(
Especially when we had a millimetre of snow. Over 25 accidents in one morning 🙈
I have a 2018 GSA Rallye low. It's a big bike & I'm a small guy at 5'-7", 69kg & 31 inseam. Effortless handling with the pillion; provided we follow some basic SOPs like the side stand is always down whilst mounting & dismounting. And off course ensuring the rest that your video has so well stressed upon👍
Sounds like you have an excellent plan when riding with a pillion. Fab stuff :)
Ride safe
At 5:50 in the video you mention forward planning to change speed from national speed limit to 60 mph , correct me if I'm wrong but the national speed limit for a single carriageway road (which you appear to be on) is 60 mph , the white circle with black diagonal bar national speed limit sign only means 70 mph on motorways and dual carriageways that have a central armco divider / reservation . No wonder you GSer types get nabbed for speeding tear - arseing about at up to 10 mph above the limit .It's an outrage ! Lol, 😁. Otherwise another cracking VID.
patmick1 yes well spotted about the speed change. I should have said 60mph to 30mph. I'm stupid and was concentrating...
A really useful film chaps and lady. As you know I'm very new to all this but one day maybe I'll take a pillion and this gives a great overview. Fully agree with using the gears to slow, but I've been faulted by my IAM observers to balance engine braking with using the brake lights, thus giving info to the follower. What do you think?
Hey matey, thanks for the very kind words. Glad you enjoyed the vid. Mark and I have both been picked up for (at times not breaking) and therefore not using the break light to give indication to other road users, although with the gsa the engine control, by keeping revs in the middle third is so good, it negates using the breaks all the time. I guess the secret is to have that 360 view and awareness around you all the time and if needed display the break but as your planning gets more proficient, the need to slow down with the break light illuminating diminishes automatically. If there is no one behind, or no need to (the following vehicle is not too close) show your change in speed and the signs all around such as the speed limit etc, why would you have to. Road craft talks about TUG (take use and give information) which comes from a whole host of things such as road position, head movement, brake lights etc do it all depends on what information you need to give balanced on the reason to why you need to. The same principle could be applied to moving back to lane 1 on a dual carriageway after overtaking, if there is no need to, why indicate back in, as the Highway Code amongst other things says you should return to the near side lane after your manoeuvre, so why the signal if no one is to benefit. Food for thought and every road situation is different and the police trainers do say gears are for going and breaks are for stopping, but keeping the bike in the middle third rev range give s you an amazing amount of engine control making the ride much more fluid :)
RiderCamTV thanks for the detailed answer. I'm with you guys on this, and feel rather like one has to show the brake lights to pass the test, rather than because it's the logical thing to do. As you say, the BM boxer gives so much braking one hardly has to use the brakes at all. For now, I've adopted the middle ground, using EB and flicking the brakes lights to keep everyone happy.
Great stuff mate. Ride safe ;)
Good info lads, loving the stig x
Thanks buddy. Cornish pillion stig rocks!
Really informative thanks
Thanks buddy. Glad you enjoyed it. Ride safe
Yea ive got a Stokie Stig she is cool on the bike, cant tell she it there..
👌
I also have a Stokie Stig ...my 14 year old son ........ hes getting there in learning how to relax
Good skills mate :)
Hello both, really useful video as I’m just about to take my wife on the back of my bike for the first time.
Can you please clarify, when stopping at a roundabout, T junction, pelican crossing etc do you as a rule stop with both feet down, or does one suffice the way it would with just you on the bike?
Really enjoy all of your videos, keep up the good work 👍
stags7075 hiya it depends on the terrain as to which foot i use.
Mark Holroyd Hello Mark, let’s assume it’s fairly level?
stags7075 I would probably use both feet. Ride safe.
Mark Holroyd Thanks Mark.
You too!
Great advice from vets, I mean advanced Riders. Intimate, Lol, we hardly know each other? Lol. Great vid..
Hahha. Intimate. Hehhe. Thanks for the kind words Denis. :)
There's so much precision and learning and its a whole process with a pillion... However, I went to India and saw 4 adults including rider on tiny scooters all the time; mostly 3 adults including the rider that's a common scene; but ladies sit sideways and carry babies and toddlers in their lap, while the older child sits on the fuel tank on motorcycle!
South- and South-East Asians are born on two wheels. It’s changing now as people get cars but when I was a kid going home to Thailand my cousins and aunties would ride me ragged on the back of Mums old Vespa or my cousins Honda. Family rides in the back of granddads Datsun pickup with all the cousins. It was great fun all of it, no kit at all.
The stig needs to be in more videos 👍🏻😬
Definately! I’m sure she will be ;)
100% >>> well done content! -Pete Washington State
thanks Pete, glad you liked it.. thanks for the kind words.. ride safe buddy
You mean on the BMW you have to program by hand two passengers, I would have thought this would be automatic for the price of the bike.
You’d have thought. Hahhah
My Mrs "stig" would often fall asleep on the back of my gixxers and never used to hold on she's a damn site braver than me. Now I own a S1000xr she hates it as she cant now see over the top of me!
An amazing compliment for a pillion to fall asleep. Shows your riding is great and the trust in you from you Mrs Stig is how it should be, an enjoyable experience for you both. Good work billy. :)
I didn't know what a pillion was until now. A pillion is a human bean on the back of a bike...who knew.
amazing :)
My pillion always falls asleep. The thump of my KLR single drones her off to lala land. I can always tell because her helmet will slowly come to rest on mine. Haha.
Great stuff Jason. It’s amazing riding with a pillion :)
Cracking bike the KLR.
would been good if you captured sting getting off bike on video from the other bikers camera, great video though !!!
That’s true. She was shy on her first debut. Hehehe. Thanks for the round words. Ride safe :)
Thank you
No probs ;)
At 16.22 approaching a round-about, why did you not check over your left shoulder? Is this an advanced rider technique or did you forgot what mod 2 teaches you?
thanks for the question. Didn't need to check over the shoulder on the approach as there was no one behind following a mirror check and there are 2 lanes (one to the left and one to the right). As we were taking the information from the roundabout and traffic from at least 500 meters away, the focus was on the roundabout and when leaving the roundabout a left shoulder check was completed as is always needed, but as there was no traffic on the left or following on the approach and no way a vehicle could have appeared a mirror check sufficed in this instance. The mod2 is a good starter but there are many more things out there in the toolbox of riding that sometimes conflicts with the MOD2 as it isn't needed, like riding in the middle of the road, which is not the best place to be for view and putting your left foot down as sometimes the right foot is better. not saying either is better or worse than the other but the techniques learned in the advanced style of riding mean if there is no need to do something (as you have taken all the information from the road that you need, why do it). Ride safe
Hi, Thankyou for your informative response, got my mod2 next week, the instructor did mention about conflicting techniques in the advanced riding course. Reading back my own question it sounded a bit rude, it wasn't meant to be, sorry for that. Ride safe.
Not taken in that way at all matey, best of luck with the test :)
RiderCamTV hi, got the full licence today, get in there my son. Thanks for the good luck.
best
If this is advance riding, I think you must have missed one of the lessons, that lady you remonstrated against had already cleared her give way line, whereas you had yet to clear yours, so a little more forward planning, had you have been on test you would have been marked down for this, and if the lady had panicked and braked to a stop, then you would have failed. I am sure we all make mistakes from time to time, but it is perhaps better to keep our thoughts to ourselves rather than telling off other road users, I am sorry to mention this as your videos are very good and I like the scenery of where you both ride.
Thanks for the comments and yes we all make mistakes from time to time even advanced riders. Funny that she stopped quite out of the blue in the middle of the roundabout and as much planning as we did it still caught us out. It happens sometimes
Did you deliberately put the rear wheel on a wet drain cover?!
Eric Sykes eat your heart out!
Is your place haunted? There’s. Ghostly figure in the background😀
Hahhah 😂
Sorry I couldn’t help myself. Forgive me I had a bad day today - dropped my versys in Flambards.
Eek! Blimey mate. Hope your ok.
I’m okay. Slipped on gravel I think. Thank goodness I had learned how to pickup a bike. Good topic for CAM.
SAT NAV...for a ride "around " the block ????? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
BIKERMETOO the sat nav comes on every time the bike starts unless it is removed.
Warning !!! If anyone takes my daughter on the back of a sports bike at silly speeds I will knee cap you on your return
the national speed limit on a single carriageway IS 60...you're not coming DOWN from the national speed limit TO 60 on a single carriage way...some advanced riding there...
Loving the channel guys, great tips as always. Side stand down, simple but not thought of , yet gives you a safety net just in case