1. Nerds create hobby that is fun and interesting. They establish rules that keep the hobby as good as it is. 2. More nerds join in and follow the rules. Hobby experiences its golden age. 3. Newcomer nerds advertise the hobby to their normie friends. Normies enjoy the hobby but don't care as much. 4. Demographics shift and there are more and more normies enjoying the hobby. They attract even more casual audience. 5. Casuals find the hobby fun but demand it to be dumbed down and rules to be relaxed so they can enjoy it. 6. Corporates take interest in the hobby and approach nerds. Corporates bribe nerds and take control of the hobby. 7. Corporates dumb down and deregulate the hobby to increase mass appeal. Normies and casuals outnumber nerds. 8. Hobby is no longer recognizable. Many nerds leave in disgust. The audience becomes more and more casual. 9. The creative spark of the hobby dies. It becomes corporate and sterile. Normies lose interest and leave. 10. Hobby slowly dies. Casuals leave because everyone else leaves. 11. Nerds look for ways to create something new. 12. Repeat.
It’s not even just nerd hobbies. The same thing happened with the lifting weights in the gym. Before instagram a much smaller part of the population went to the gym everyday. & it was like 90% males.
@@tmp88 When I went to the gym in highschool in 2015-2016, there were maybe 4-5 other guys that went also (out of 300 guys). Now, almost everyone goes, so the gym isn't even worth it, it's too overcrowded, full of vvomen and normies, pop music...
@@tmp88 In my country in my fathers generation the gym was for "homosexuals or criminals" - my father and grandfather quote, same applied to tattoos "Sailors, Whores and Criminals" haha, if you wanted to be in shape, which most generally were simply by virtue of less calorie dense diet and smoking, you did running, hockey, or football and maybe if you were feeling exotic Karate as my dad did.
In one of my college business classes, we were shown a video of some dude dancing by himself until more and more people joined. At first, it was just a few extra randos jumping in with everyone doing their own thing independently, but next to each other. Eventually, enough people joined and they were able to form a sort of group dance dynamic that was clearly fun for them. After that, a swarm of normies descended upon them and began doing the most generic "pretending to wave a lighter in the air" move collectively, and the spirit of the dance was gone completely. It was a brief showcase of how most people are basically sheep waiting for the rest of the herd to lead them into the next set of lowest-common-denominator, safe, sanitized "fun" within the scope of what is socially acceptable. None of the guys at the beginning were particularly good at dancing, but at least they were genuine.
Cops now proudly wear the punisher skull. On their actual uniforms, without realizing how absurd that is given what the original iteration of the character was supposed to be. It'd be akin to Taliban members wearing a patch with a star and strips bikini wearing bible holding bleached blonde on their robes.
@@Doberman_6773 yes, many 304hammers suddenly disappeared after lockdown after doing hobby painting videos and Only Fools videos for a monthly subscription.
They don't like old stuff I find so if you're part of something older especially when it comes to video games they're not only less likely to enter the scene they can't, the game is already made.
@@iwannabethekid34xcYep, the internet has been the main vector for companies to virtue signal and peddle their wares to as wide of an audience as possible while shunning the core base that made them be in that position to begin with. Almost can’t blame them considering how much money is on the table thanks to virtual globalization.
if your hobby needs you to demand corporate dependence...probably doing hobbying wrong. They call that enslavement, when one becomes slave...it will inevitably be over at some end point. The crux of the problem is corporate dependence, people that have hobbies which can go beyond that are the safe ones.
I got into anime a few years ago after ignoring it for most of my life. I made it a point to go back and watch all the great classic series that made the medium what it is today, and I still havent watched anything recently released. Normies, on the other hand, are cultural devourers who swoop in to a well-established hobby and think they can now call the shots and determine what is good and what isn't, while being utterly unaware of ehat made the hobby good in the first place. I guarantee you all these e-girls that "love anime" have never seen, or potentially even heard of, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Devilman, etc.
Yea I know bro the recent anime-s are just normie trash catered towards international audiences instead of old traditional anime audiences Anime bro try watching Chinese anime-s called Donghua they're great and have improved significantly over the last 10 year aka decade Donghua gives me the same feeling of being anime fan back in the 90s and 2000s not many people watch it or know it and people got filtered by the bad 3d animation back then discarding all the good stories now its soo much good even better than most Japanese animations Recommendations Battle through the Heavens Swallowed Star Renegade Immortal Any anime that was top 10 in novel year from China were all made into Donghua Come to Donghua bro forget anime its already ruined by Normies
@@postmodernminingThe Castlevania series was fan-fiction in its worst kind. The games are still the true Castlevania but the series on netflix is utter fan-fiction waste .
Normies ruin everything is the same thing and as true as what I also say..."When something goes mainstream (along with most any company that goes publicly traded) it ruins the soul and everything that made it great in the first place is lost." This is true for any medium. Games, comics, tabletop RPG, certain movie genres should have remained "underground." I hated when said things began to gain more and more popularity as I saw the writing on the wall. Gatekeeping exists for damn good reason. Ptolemy, well done again. I also agree the some type of gatekeep and something that cannot be subverted is immensely needed. I just have no idea how one could ever succeed in making a product that could forever follow that. this is why gatekeeping is good. internet was better off without normies. now its nothing but corporations and political shills, all the fun of the internet has gone away.
People need to read: geeks-mops-sociopaths. How every hobby has a cycle with their community and how eventually normies and grifters will come to dilute said hobby.
I got stunned reactions 15 years ago when I would look at a new gym, be asked about my fitness goals and would say "To be healthy." They couldn't process that I was there for any reason other than looks maxing. A man doing just about anything for reasons other than female validation is met with confusion and often contempt.
The idea that an average or below average young man can "look-max" his way into the affections of fickle women is a dangerous, dangerous idea to be giving to impressionable young men. I think we as older men (I'm 37) have a responsibility to our younger brothers to prevent their falling into this hope-ium addiction. As I've said before, men need to look out for each other, because lord knowns no one else will.
Looks maxing isn't dangerous idea its an idea that looks is all that matters similar to black pill Looks-maxxing is coping mechanism and symptoms of major problem in current human sexual market and dynamic just like how porn is In world of chaos either the cope delusionals or the gods chosen can only thrive in successes the rest will get discard by life of chaos thus it came to conclusion since most people are not god's chosen ones its better to be deluded fool than be rational person who knows the truth Reason why looks maxxing is popular because we all know we have 1 life in this planet better to max your experience with looks than never doing it in the first place With recent rise of hoe-flation and top .1% taking all the women looksmaxxing is the only hope and cope for the men even then genetics and life experience will fuck over majority of men
@@_Terminus_ dont listen to him his generation had more money and freely had sex. Get what you can. These old slobs are out of touch with reality and created the mess we're in.
@@_Terminus_ Certainly. The idea that Stardusk is getting at here is that influencers like Tate will market their lifestyle as if it's something that hard-work and persistence can bring to anyone. Whilst hard-work is certain meritorious, and necessary in many ways, the idea that any man can be a chad is a lie. A guy who is 5'5" and relatively average in looks will never, ever have women falling at his feet. Making him believe that this is so is merely diverting his attention away from something that could be productive.
I was one of the only kids in school who read comics in the early 2000s I’d get bullied for it now everyone loves super heros & I gave up on the geek shit shortly after highschool because people ruined it. Made me grow up.
Yeah, once things went mainstream there was a sweet spot just before the wokeism creep where comics, gaming and movies were finally taken seriously and earned recognition as artistically valuable. R.I.P..
I was the same with anime. I was never afraid to express my interests, got ridiculed and mocked nonstop. Now it's "cool" to like anime. The popularity increase didn't ruin it for me though, sucks it did in your case.
@@dw3134 Never been an anime fan. There's some good ones but it's all heavily underwritten and too emotive. Like, not everybody needs to emoting and a little stoicism and intellectualism would be greatly appreciated.
I found a way for myself to have peace in this world. I just stopped caring about anything. Everything is disposable for me. I enjoy something while it lasts and forget about it instantly if something goes wrong.
I never knew I would go that far but yes, being flexible and adaptive with that fluid black pill philosophy helps too many things change too fast in a bad way, so better stay mobile in the mind and heart
The only way to gatekeep a hobby or subculture is to be as ugly and obnoxious as possible to normie's eyes. A great example of this is metal music. Although it has been slowly corrupted by normoids, it stood its ground longer than any other subcultures out there all thanks to metalhead's collective effort to be hostile to outsiders.
The black pill will never go mainstream haha, imagine everyone took the blackpill, ropemaxing will be the new trend, or everyone will be saying "its over" like dbdr. Theres things that will always be in the dark of modern society where only the most depressed people venture to go, to escape the light of day.
I half agree. A subset of the Blackpill, looks maxxing went mainstream. Rope maxxing has always been mainstream because most people hate their lives. The real Blackpill that won’t go mainstream would be foid-are-hwhores pill and they should be punished for it. There’s too many white knights out there to prevent this.
when it goes mainstream, it gets boring because some people are going to find it "too violent" or "too sexy" or "too complicated", and everything gets dumbed down until it becomes uninteresting
@@neverbeganforme I am not lonely. I am selfish. You still think that most people aren't coping their loneliness. I will tell you that people who hate being alone hate themselves the most. I strongly believe that most people hate being alone. What exactly am I missing out on?
@@MourningDove-bn4dk I wouldn’t say they hate themselves, it’s more so that nothing is worth it if you’re all alone. I don’t know what you’re missing out on because I don’t know what you desire.
@@neverbeganforme You need to be used in order to feel like you matter. That doesn't answer why your own validation cannot be enough. I would view others as simply elements that should compliment your life, not be your life. How do you live when they are not around? It is a rhetorical question. I am merely pointing out that the grass is not greener on the other side. Most people don't appreciate what they have being alone.
Interesting you spoke on the subject of Gatekeeping. TFM last night talked about this on his stream on why hobbies, shows and movie are going woke. He brought up the Asch Conformity experiment on basic how the powers that be used gaslighting to change the perspective of the group to make it hard for dissenters to point out what’s wrong and a particular hobby or genre? We see this irl with what Lucasfilm and Disney Star Wars. TFM pointed out that the alphabet agencies believed that young men were being radicalized by certain games, movies and TV shows. So the intention was basically to make all these properties woke to pacify the potentiality of aggressive men in the culture. So basically no property of film, games or genres are not safe from this tactic. His solution was simply this, If some goes WOKE, Don’t buy that new stuff. Don’t engage with woke crap in your media. Which is what other content creators have been saying for years. Vote with your wallet.
Interesting theory, which is certainly possible however I feel like if true then agencies are even more stupid then I gave them credit for because what I have noticed both in myself and other men irl around me is that as our distractions get killed off and there are less ways to distract us we are instead turning more and more agressive and dissatisfied. I've definitely been seeing a correlation between an increase in violence paired with the increase in wokeness. So instead of pacifying men I've noticed more men acting out. Joining gangs, causing riots etc. As well as other unsavory things I rather not even type out as my comment would get deleted by YT for sure haha. Almost all men nowadays are also fanatical gym goers who do at least a combat sport or two. So basically if pacifying men was their plan then at least locally it has horribly backfired.
@@DutchThricemanyea even now as more and more hobbies get ruined I just get angrier not that I'll be a criminal but if it weren't for friends focusing on old material I'd be angry all the time with no outlet.
What radicalizes young men is not having an outlet and speaking with others. That's the real thing: *they don't want men talking or sharing notes, hence why they go after rp/mwa content*
Anime was almost gatekeeping to nerds. When i was younger anime was probably not as popular as it is today. You got stores that sell a lot of anime bs. Maybe i lost interest in anime because it got too mainstream.
I think that anime is broad enough that there will always be sections of it which are _highly_ mainstream (usually Shonen adaptations like Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, My Hero Academia, Demon Slayer, etc.), while others are relatively niche, such as mecha, obscure 80s/90s OVAs, cyberpunk, etc. As with most entertainment, the majority of the really good stuff is from 20~30 years ago (at least, that's what I seek out).
Communities die when women become part of them I mean when was the last time you did a DnD campaign pre-2010 and a woman was involved? They only started becoming players after it became “mainstream” or acceptable
Yes, then the "other" communities follow the women in and it fundamentally changes. That's how you get dnd livestream channels with the entire cast having strange mental illnesses and the campaign is about tri-gender pyro-foxes battling the patriarchy. Stepping stones of endless suffering.
Gate keeping is possible if such hobbies and values are edgy outside the norms of society and human values Discarding and filtering aka exclusivity first should always be the main rule
You can gatekeep locations but you can never gatekeep an idea. I remember when youtubers couldn't make money off their videos. I remember when the floodgates opened in 2011 and suddenly a lot of previous youtube viewers started to make videos once they realised they could make a sustainable living from it. And then i remember the next generation of creators who saw people get rich & famous off youtube started to make videos to take their shot at getting rich and famous rather than being genuine fans of the medium. At that point I have to accept that the mainstream site culture no longer catered to the original audience. There isn't really a solid answer to this other than to never let yourself get too emotionally invested in ideas that you don't control. Maybe consider creating the content that you wish to create in your designed medium. It's not a perfect solution but the less reliant you are on a world that doesn't care about you the better.
Sadly it's true, I see comments on a certain website all the time when some hobby goes bad and people say "should have gatekept harder". But there really is no way to do that. All it takes is one video to go viral or one company to make something tailored to the masses and it's over. You are never getting your comfy hobby back. I've seen it happen multiple times growing up, watching things I love turn into things I hate. Because the new "fans" don't actually care about what you loved, it's just the temporary thing they use as an excuse to hang out. They will move on as soon as there is a next thing to plunder. But sometimes it takes so long before they move on that the original thing is all but lost and forgotten.
Here in my area, we never had that cliquey sort of funnel of people into certain hobbies. We didn't habe jocks, nerds, whatever other ridiculous stereotype other places had. People just didn't what they enjoyed. Farmers sons liked world of war craft. My brothers now a civil engineer and did very well in magic the gathering, yet he also loved combat sambo, out door survival, etc. Heck, at the magic the gathering meet up comic book shop, which was located in downtown gang territory, some of the locals from those clu s got into magic the gathering. The owner couldn't really tell them no. Some of them apparantly invested a very large amount of money into the hobby, which I'm sure the owner also enjoyed being that he sold the cards aswell. I know many guys that enjoy hunting and quacking, that to this day still sit down and read a green lantern graphic novel in the evening. Iv goke to comicons however, and habe gone with my brother to his magic the gathering tournaments in other locations. Yes, it seems that for some reason, our oasis is a bit different, and you don't see any fellow guys that do combat sports.
Exactly this. I remember I got made fun of for wearing pink for breast cancer when I was in the fifth grade, now, fast forward 15 years later and it’s cool to wear the color now.
There is a lot of money to be made with video games and comics and similar genres like these. PBS has a show called Frontline, It can be decent at times. Decades ago there was a episode called " The merchants of cool". This episode showed how MTV and corporations like Spite used cool and hip people and under ground scenes to make a product cool and popular. Now they are using "cool people" or influencers in the modern vernacular to promote shit that used to be lame and for nerds to create a larger market.
Creativity without a crowd is liberating. Small is beautiful. I actively prevent people from accessing me. You do not know me, and never will, by my art. I am free.
Man its so crazy you remind me so much of renegade #1 aka logitorian, rip. In one of his videos he said "If an idea becomes popular with the masses it loses its impact." Im honestly glad he hasnt become popular either. His channel only has about 1k subs at the moment.
Maybe what we all need to do is take up more hobbies like chess that aren't centered around corporate-owned IP. The corporates are a weak link in the chain that activists love to exploit.
Gatekeeping is impossible, from outside the castle. They can quite easily gatekeep, because they control the IP. Fortunately, they tend to destroy anything they have power over. As sad as that may be for things people once enjoyed.
I would urge people to write their own books, draw and paint their own art, and compose their own songs. Mainstream popularity will *always* take the thing you like in directions you don't want it to go. Whatever you're a fan of, it will become a dreary, soulless property that you barely recognize. Girls love to dress up and get attention, so comic book conventions became cosplay conventions; I'm old and I witnessed the change firsthand.
I used to enjoy gamedev and programming. Used to. It went mainstream sometime in 2018-2019 and now you look at gamedev forums and its either dudes talking about how to properly market their game or a ton of un answered questions because the wizards of back in the day have all realized that these people dont care about the hobby anymore. You used to actually have to be smart and put thought into your creations and do research but once it went mainstream normies started making bite sized content and reduced game developement to another hobby that anyone could do. State of the hobby now? Complete lack of community and no one really cares about the art of any of it anymore. People now sell asset packs instead of making informative write ups / tutorials like back in the day (they did it because of actual passion). Engine producers are now scrambling to find ways to monetize their engines even further and if you actually make anything interesting youll have one hell of a time trying to sell it because everyone is trying it now. I swear normies only purpose in the world are to make things worse so that real people have to overcome trials to prove themselves to God
What? You guys don't want a MCU version of 40K? Who wouldn't want to see the absolute cinema of The Emperor actually had a secret daughter no one knew about and was banished because she was more powerful than him, just to return and take the Emperor's place lol
Also, he was gay. Stunning. Edit: I just thought about this, but there are a collection of 40k horror stories making the rounds on Warhammer channels. One has a main character racing through the story to protect his husband and their daughter. His husband. This isn't fanfic, it's part of the universe now.
What's interesting is that Halo has become irrelevant even though they have the best aesthetics in any IP ever. The day will come when the IP will be on the market as will Star Wars as will any other IP.
The only gate you can keep is where your attention and money go. Even with that, taxes and the need to work for a living prevent you from possessing absolute power over you money and attention. Your goal in life is to devote as much attention to your interests as possible while keeping other's interests from impeding upon your own. I chose a job that interests me for a living. It also pays pretty well. Taxes. In CA I was an independent contractor and could deduct my significant business costs. CA changed its laws so now I can't take those deductions anymore. I'm in the process of figuring out my exit strategy while working remotely. This is gatekeeping 101 -- keeping other's interests from side-tracking yours. I don't play any video games so I had nothing in that domain for them to take from me. Hollywood has destroyed the movie industry so I no longer buy their product. If you still purchase entertainment that corrupts its foundations, you invite the parasites to feast on your money and attention. Gatekeep your money and attention. It's the only thing sustaining the parasites you loathe.
The whole point of the internet was to get away from the everyday normal life of normies. With the rise of smartphones, everyone and their momma can now become "social media influencers"; gargle and spit shitty content on a whim. And I absolutely hate how people think the internet is a one dimensional platform for a quick dopamine rush. People use smartphones like slot machines, I swear.
Same thing at Dutch Comic Con. This new generation of "comic book geeks" doesn't know anything beyond what happened in the Disney movies and shows and have never even been anywhere near an actual comic book. I watched all the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter movies, but i would never dare call myself a fan, because i never read the books as a true fan should. Which Spider-Man villain joined Silver Sable's Wild Pack? Which martial art does Chris Powell study? What false identity did Matt Murdock use in the '90s when he had faked his own death? Which super hero team did Night Thrasher use as the inspiration for his New Warriors? Who replaced Batman when he broke his back? You don't know, because you never did any of the the actual work and just watched some movies and shows, yet you dare call yourself a fan? Well, cosplaying as an Avenger or Harley Quinn and buying some Funko Pops does not make you a comic book fan. When you tell them Nick Fury is white and that Tony Stark is an alcoholic, they have no idea what you're even talking about. Also, there's way too much manga and anime.
As an old school Seinen manga/anime enjoyer I fully agree, the vast majority of anime/manga nowadays (edit* even more so then before/in the past) is beyond trash and about 90% reincarnation bs.
I'm not even a hardcore fan but I knew fury was white and tony a drunk since I was 6 or thst the ancient one was an old Tibetan man or Hawkeye was a former circus performer and criminal with horrible luck cause he was simping for Black Widow. You should see how many peopel look at md funny since the MCU started.
@@-______________________ ikr 😆. If only I were gullible, I could be watching Scamza's fake hope. But I get heightpilled every time I leave my basement
Before the internet came along, interest in computers was also the domain of the "nerds". I remember it well. Face-forward to the mid 1990s, it was now cool to own a desktop computer, with the internet.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. My my at least some things are respected like Shredders Revenge but the stuff that includes Seth Rogan is complete gunk. Crapping all over it. Same can be said as Resident Evil, Spider-Man, etc.
I graduated high school in 2002 and back then anime was just for freaks. I almost didnt want to be associated with the crowd in some hopes at being popular. Fast forward to 2017 i came back to anime for personal reason and when i no longer cared what anyone thought of me. Knowing nothing of the current state of things, i still thought things were like they were in 2002. But little by little i started to realize anime had become completely mainstream. It especially hit me when i saw multiple hxh shirts on display at a hot topic. At that point i realized i just needed to be an underground fan otherwise i would just be like everyone else.
I realize the following is a controversial point but one could argue that "grifting" began with comic books way back in the late 1970s - early 1980s when they began to serve as a form of softcore pornography for teenagers who were either too young or ashamed to purchase mainstream adult content like Playboy magazines, a development largely driven by the creative output of writers and artists who often drew from their own experiences with sexual frustration and self-inserted themselves into the stories they created. Of course, they also realized that "sex sells" - as the saying goes - and they had bills to pay like everyone else.
This ties in well with the recent video about "baseline"... there is not much that will last. Make it a skill of yours to become good at adapting to change.
The algorithm is definitely pounding you into oblivion You just popped back up into my feed and lo and behold umpteen videos youve uploaded since last saw you
Slowly learning my greatest fear as a writer is people seeing me as too inappropriate when I want to be. Now I'm seeing this and in a way it's helping to get over that. If it's a given to anything then I don't have much to worry about.
You know, ever since I was little, I've had this odd behavior where I've never been into anything that becomes too popular for some reason. I always thought this behavior of mine was a odd back in the day.... like if there is something I like, and it becomes super popular, I generally lose interest. For example, I never liked World of Warcraft, but I've always been a DnD fan. It's become clear to me that I just have a natural instinct to avoid all the poser-normies and their completely fake attention seeking, ego centric, version of reality that just ends up being a whole bunch of white noise to someone like myself who's very much only interested in objective reality and not some fake "me centric" reality that all the normies live in. These people are a disease on my mental capacity to think and reason clearly... which obviously translates to my instinct to lose interest in anything that becomes too popular. I need these people as far away from me as I can so I can think about things that matter and not think about things that don't matter. MGTOW has the distinct advantage here, since it will never be mainstream as normies will never understand these advance concepts, or even if they do, they will never agree with them and will always reject MGTOW out of hand because of it. Thus MGTOW will live forever as a place for intellectual conversations and debates, which is one more reason MGTOW is great!
You know, taking this concept one step further, MGTOW really is my people, and this is my home, because we are talking about stuff that actually matters here. The media portrays us all as losers who just hate woman, and maybe the Media is doing us a favor actully "Yeah were all sad losers who hate woman and are gay, now FUCK OFF!" is what we should be telling every normie we see. Sadly these human parasites will probably smell our raw intelligence and start invading our spaces to pretend they are anywhere near as clever as we are. Me must guard against their invasions.
As a general yes. I think some things gatekeep themselves by default of being terribly niche, and that's not always a bad thing. But yeah, I warned friend geeks about this kind of thing years ago and got called a worrywort for it. In the end, I settled on just playing the games I like as I like with those I like and passing on my way of playing it to like-minded so that hopefully that survives and leads to better down the road.
Look how they ruined the reputation of the boys comic. The comic had a very solid critique on hedonism and corporatism but now Amazon toned it down and changed a lot of crude elements and now everyone praises that little baby version over the comic. We truly live in a time where everything has to be toned down and with a happy ending
Fitness as an example was always a vain pursuit. But now those who been into fitness for a long time are able to see how dorky we actually looked making fitness our personality when we see a bunch of normies recording themselves exercising in every corner of the gym.
It goes beyond nerds. In the 90s me and a few of my buddies started lifting weights at a hardcore bodybuilding/powerlifting gym. People knew about weights because of Arnold but powerlifting was definitely a niche thing. Now there’s massive strength community online. Eddie Hall and Brian Shaw are borderline household names.
All these nerd hobbies and franchises were sold out by their creators long ago, were just now witnessing the consequences of it. I miss the 2000's era for videogames, it kind of felt like a balance of both nerd and dudebro culture without the drawbacks of going mainstream.
You need the normies for the hobby to breach obscurity. It becomes worthwhile for companies to produce accesories and items to play the hobby. Innovation occurs. There is enough interest you can book events and convention, having famous and key people attend. Once it grows too large, it needs more people to grow and you start pandering the the lowest common denominator. Then yeah, it's gone.
The only way to fix this is to change IP laws things shoulfmd go public domain the minute the creator dies and IP should not be sellable so no corpiration can have exclusivity over it absent a temporary license from the author.
I wanted to be hopeful and deny this for a while, but it's true, I always knew in the back of my mind that no matter how aggressive are the repsonses they get, nothing will change for the better until they get and remain in positions of power in companies. I already see the cracks im the Godzilla Fandom thanks the the American Monsterverse movies, and especially because of the Monarch show.
collecting vinyl. In the past eight years....when women deemed collecting records was now cool.............said vinyl geeks, music lovers now have to "be nice" and teach them and the like and women then have the nerve to say "female artists" are not represented enough in the stores. Not enough "female owned" record shops. The usal griping they do when they enter any area.
I used to follow marvel comics religiously in early 2000's. I was a big nerd for DeadPool I knew if others knew I would have got wrecked. It's weird seeing people running around with tattoos of marvel characters now.
I believe comics, video games, and rpgs became normalized due to the demasculation of society. People used to call such things "girl-repellant", now most guys are so invisible to women why would they even care?
i would also like to note you cant gatekeep what you dont own many of these hobby's many of these franchises are not owned by the fans despite what the fans think they are most often own by the IP holder, corporations and individuals and are at the mercy of such if they desire to burn it down or change it to something thats no long recognizable they can do that and there is nothing the fans can do, as i said you cant gatekeep something that doesn't belong to you or you dont own and thats a bitter pill fans are going to have to swallow.
@@cannedbread1955 nowhere near as many as a lot of other things. The internet makes everything MORE popular. Just how popular it is, is the question. Osdm is niche as fuck. I think a lot of people will say they like death metal but all they've ever heard is a bunch of songs from sound of perserverance and some retarded melodeath crap like amon amarth and in flames.
Someone should make a clip compilation video of all of the closings of TA's videos. Makes sure they are in chronological order so we can hear growing frustration with the algorithm. I agree that it does not like his videos, that is a compliment. The algo favors mindless crap,
1. Nerds create hobby that is fun and interesting. They establish rules that keep the hobby as good as it is.
2. More nerds join in and follow the rules. Hobby experiences its golden age.
3. Newcomer nerds advertise the hobby to their normie friends. Normies enjoy the hobby but don't care as much.
4. Demographics shift and there are more and more normies enjoying the hobby. They attract even more casual audience.
5. Casuals find the hobby fun but demand it to be dumbed down and rules to be relaxed so they can enjoy it.
6. Corporates take interest in the hobby and approach nerds. Corporates bribe nerds and take control of the hobby.
7. Corporates dumb down and deregulate the hobby to increase mass appeal. Normies and casuals outnumber nerds.
8. Hobby is no longer recognizable. Many nerds leave in disgust. The audience becomes more and more casual.
9. The creative spark of the hobby dies. It becomes corporate and sterile. Normies lose interest and leave.
10. Hobby slowly dies. Casuals leave because everyone else leaves.
11. Nerds look for ways to create something new.
12. Repeat.
It’s not even just nerd hobbies.
The same thing happened with the lifting weights in the gym.
Before instagram a much smaller part of the population went to the gym everyday.
& it was like 90% males.
Yes about everything this is why i said hobby to generalise ?@@tmp88
I suppose one could state the same of religion or faith in general.
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When I went to the gym in highschool in 2015-2016, there were maybe 4-5 other guys that went also (out of 300 guys). Now, almost everyone goes, so the gym isn't even worth it, it's too overcrowded, full of vvomen and normies, pop music...
@@tmp88 In my country in my fathers generation the gym was for "homosexuals or criminals" - my father and grandfather quote, same applied to tattoos "Sailors, Whores and Criminals" haha, if you wanted to be in shape, which most generally were simply by virtue of less calorie dense diet and smoking, you did running, hockey, or football and maybe if you were feeling exotic Karate as my dad did.
Normies + Women can break any gatekeeping trap
@@deathandrebirth-y8x
As soon as the nerds see the Jamie Blonde 007, they start drooling and open the gates for everyone
If nothing is sacred and we are unable to gatekeep then everything must and shall collapse and be destroyed
@@morablaze486there's a reason secret societies could persist: because the gatekeeping was to the point nobody believed they even existed.
@@de14jabs ahem like a certain secret society that likes to do funny money stuff while they cry in pain as they strike you down
In one of my college business classes, we were shown a video of some dude dancing by himself until more and more people joined.
At first, it was just a few extra randos jumping in with everyone doing their own thing independently, but next to each other. Eventually, enough people joined and they were able to form a sort of group dance dynamic that was clearly fun for them. After that, a swarm of normies descended upon them and began doing the most generic "pretending to wave a lighter in the air" move collectively, and the spirit of the dance was gone completely.
It was a brief showcase of how most people are basically sheep waiting for the rest of the herd to lead them into the next set of lowest-common-denominator, safe, sanitized "fun" within the scope of what is socially acceptable. None of the guys at the beginning were particularly good at dancing, but at least they were genuine.
What % of the sheeple were w*men I wonder
I saw that too. And the teachers somehow spun it as if it was a positive thing. I forgot what their point was.
🎯🎯🎯
Bit rich coming from someone with a chad as his dp
Wearing a Punisher T-shirt in 1990: “Weirdo”
Wearing a Punisher T-shirt in 2024: “Badass”
Punisher T-shirt is cringe in 2024.
@@thecurmudgeon7350a Zelda T-shirt then.
@@nifftbatuff676 Wearing a NAZI T-shirt in 1990: “Weirdo”
Wearing a NAZI T-shirt in 2024: “Badass”
Cops now proudly wear the punisher skull. On their actual uniforms, without realizing how absurd that is given what the original iteration of the character was supposed to be. It'd be akin to Taliban members wearing a patch with a star and strips bikini wearing bible holding bleached blonde on their robes.
@@SundayMorningRunner in 1940 "normie"
It'a called Warhammer 40K because that's the number of women that suddenly joined the hobby when they realised that Henry Cavill was into it.
304hammer
@@Doberman_6773 yes, many 304hammers suddenly disappeared after lockdown after doing hobby painting videos and Only Fools videos for a monthly subscription.
Average age of women joining.
40
Lmao
40k is not female friendly. Gaming in general is a male hobby, and attempts to appeal to women only take away from quality.
Normies will always outnumber and take over communities. It's only a question of when, not if.
Unironically the internet growing outside of japan and the US has been the cause of mass shittification.
They don't like old stuff I find so if you're part of something older especially when it comes to video games they're not only less likely to enter the scene they can't, the game is already made.
@@iwannabethekid34xcYep, the internet has been the main vector for companies to virtue signal and peddle their wares to as wide of an audience as possible while shunning the core base that made them be in that position to begin with. Almost can’t blame them considering how much money is on the table thanks to virtual globalization.
Anything that is legitimately uncommon and challenging will keep normies away.
@@iwannabethekid34xc It's mostly US citizens who caused this mass shittification.
Gate-keeping is exclusivity. And exclusivity is an important recipe when creating or maintaining anything good.
And exclusivity is impossible
"Appeal to a broader/modern audience" = Gone mainstream, "safe", and lame as hell.
if your hobby needs you to demand corporate dependence...probably doing hobbying wrong. They call that enslavement, when one becomes slave...it will inevitably be over at some end point. The crux of the problem is corporate dependence, people that have hobbies which can go beyond that are the safe ones.
I got into anime a few years ago after ignoring it for most of my life. I made it a point to go back and watch all the great classic series that made the medium what it is today, and I still havent watched anything recently released. Normies, on the other hand, are cultural devourers who swoop in to a well-established hobby and think they can now call the shots and determine what is good and what isn't, while being utterly unaware of ehat made the hobby good in the first place. I guarantee you all these e-girls that "love anime" have never seen, or potentially even heard of, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Devilman, etc.
Castlevania is amazing.
Yea I know bro the recent anime-s are just normie trash catered towards international audiences instead of old traditional anime audiences
Anime bro try watching Chinese anime-s called Donghua they're great and have improved significantly over the last 10 year aka decade
Donghua gives me the same feeling of being anime fan back in the 90s and 2000s not many people watch it or know it and people got filtered by the bad 3d animation back then discarding all the good stories now its soo much good even better than most Japanese animations
Recommendations
Battle through the Heavens
Swallowed Star
Renegade Immortal
Any anime that was top 10 in novel year from China were all made into Donghua
Come to Donghua bro forget anime its already ruined by Normies
@@postmodernminingThe Castlevania series was fan-fiction in its worst kind.
The games are still the true Castlevania but the series on netflix is utter fan-fiction waste .
@@Snyperwolf91 I don't care about the games. The series is really good on it's own.
@@postmodernmining "I don't care about the games".......This is really ironic considering this video is about gatekeeping.
I am become Normie, the destroyer of hobbies
let me ruin your excellent quote: HAhahah that's from BArbenheimer hahahahah
hell naw
Snoozeheimer reference
Normies always ru8n everything.
@Vickybp-q4t normies are followers of women
@Vickybp-q4tthey essentially are normies; effective mimics, they have their prime directive: defend the she-hive
@Vickybp-q4t very true in the case of former male spaces
Normies ruin everything is the same thing and as true as what I also say..."When something goes mainstream (along with most any company that goes publicly traded) it ruins the soul and everything that made it great in the first place is lost." This is true for any medium. Games, comics, tabletop RPG, certain movie genres should have remained "underground." I hated when said things began to gain more and more popularity as I saw the writing on the wall.
Gatekeeping exists for damn good reason. Ptolemy, well done again. I also agree the some type of gatekeep and something that cannot be subverted is immensely needed. I just have no idea how one could ever succeed in making a product that could forever follow that. this is why gatekeeping is good. internet was better off without normies. now its nothing but corporations and political shills, all the fun of the internet has gone away.
People need to read: geeks-mops-sociopaths. How every hobby has a cycle with their community and how eventually normies and grifters will come to dilute said hobby.
it's simple economics. if there's too much of something, it isn't valuable.
I got stunned reactions 15 years ago when I would look at a new gym, be asked about my fitness goals and would say "To be healthy." They couldn't process that I was there for any reason other than looks maxing. A man doing just about anything for reasons other than female validation is met with confusion and often contempt.
The idea that an average or below average young man can "look-max" his way into the affections of fickle women is a dangerous, dangerous idea to be giving to impressionable young men. I think we as older men (I'm 37) have a responsibility to our younger brothers to prevent their falling into this hope-ium addiction. As I've said before, men need to look out for each other, because lord knowns no one else will.
Im someone who may fall into this category, 25 here. Perhaps you could expand on this comment?
A man thinking that he will be happy by having a wife and family is a phase that most go through.
Looks maxing isn't dangerous idea its an idea that looks is all that matters similar to black pill
Looks-maxxing is coping mechanism and symptoms of major problem in current human sexual market and dynamic just like how porn is
In world of chaos either the cope delusionals or the gods chosen can only thrive in successes the rest will get discard by life of chaos thus it came to conclusion since most people are not god's chosen ones its better to be deluded fool than be rational person who knows the truth
Reason why looks maxxing is popular because we all know we have 1 life in this planet better to max your experience with looks than never doing it in the first place
With recent rise of hoe-flation and top .1% taking all the women looksmaxxing is the only hope and cope for the men even then genetics and life experience will fuck over majority of men
@@_Terminus_ dont listen to him his generation had more money and freely had sex. Get what you can. These old slobs are out of touch with reality and created the mess we're in.
@@_Terminus_ Certainly. The idea that Stardusk is getting at here is that influencers like Tate will market their lifestyle as if it's something that hard-work and persistence can bring to anyone. Whilst hard-work is certain meritorious, and necessary in many ways, the idea that any man can be a chad is a lie. A guy who is 5'5" and relatively average in looks will never, ever have women falling at his feet. Making him believe that this is so is merely diverting his attention away from something that could be productive.
I was one of the only kids in school who read comics in the early 2000s I’d get bullied for it now everyone loves super heros & I gave up on the geek shit shortly after highschool because people ruined it. Made me grow up.
TBBT was a mockery of geek culture.
Yeah, once things went mainstream there was a sweet spot just before the wokeism creep where comics, gaming and movies were finally taken seriously and earned recognition as artistically valuable. R.I.P..
I was the same with anime. I was never afraid to express my interests, got ridiculed and mocked nonstop. Now it's "cool" to like anime. The popularity increase didn't ruin it for me though, sucks it did in your case.
@@SampsonKeller the peak was Blade.
"Lol Star Wars is the best! Captain Janeway did so much for women, and Legolas is soooooooo hot!"
- Stacy, the fake geek girl.
A tough pill to swallow indeed. Anime is the most current victim of it.
Anime is normie central.
@@Kane.JimLahey.yeah lol. and it's been like this for about 5 years+ now. nowhere near the most current victim
@@inner__ what's the most current victim except war hammer?
Beyond a few exceptions or studios, anime was a flash in the pan that only put out inarguably good shows/movies from about 1985-2001.
Old anime’s are way better than the new ones. It’s pump and dumb for the normies.
Warhammer getting normified was a tell tale sign of how things nowadays will go
It's especially bad when they change the hobby/game/comic to appeal to the normies cause it's more profitable that way.
Uuh I love it. Could we make this unique thing...like less unique, pleease?
Nothing is sacred, and nothing ever will be.
Nope, the sanctity of Fallout and Zelda will be maintained.
@@Whoyouwishyouwereif only that were true 😞
Anime is still good though.
@@dw3134 Never been an anime fan. There's some good ones but it's all heavily underwritten and too emotive. Like, not everybody needs to emoting and a little stoicism and intellectualism would be greatly appreciated.
@@WhoyouwishyouwereFallout? You forgot that fallout 4,76 and tv show exists
I found a way for myself to have peace in this world. I just stopped caring about anything. Everything is disposable for me. I enjoy something while it lasts and forget about it instantly if something goes wrong.
I believe this is the right way to live now - just occupy myself with something else when something goes wrong that I can't do anything about.
I never knew I would go that far but yes, being flexible and adaptive with that fluid black pill philosophy helps too many things change too fast in a bad way, so better stay mobile in the mind and heart
The only way to gatekeep a hobby or subculture is to be as ugly and obnoxious as possible to normie's eyes. A great example of this is metal music. Although it has been slowly corrupted by normoids, it stood its ground longer than any other subcultures out there all thanks to metalhead's collective effort to be hostile to outsiders.
True. Can you just imagine CANNIBAL CORPSE performing at the Super Bowl halftime show? 😈
Only an IP owned by private hands can stay pure.
Even then though, one day it will be tainted. Look at Tolkiens work and whats been done to it.
The black pill will never go mainstream haha, imagine everyone took the blackpill, ropemaxing will be the new trend, or everyone will be saying "its over" like dbdr. Theres things that will always be in the dark of modern society where only the most depressed people venture to go, to escape the light of day.
I half agree. A subset of the Blackpill, looks maxxing went mainstream. Rope maxxing has always been mainstream because most people hate their lives. The real Blackpill that won’t go mainstream would be foid-are-hwhores pill and they should be punished for it. There’s too many white knights out there to prevent this.
Now its becomes reality, but not from women
when it goes mainstream, it gets boring because some people are going to find it "too violent" or "too sexy" or "too complicated", and everything gets dumbed down until it becomes uninteresting
Don't identify as part of a group when you have an interest in something. Always be ready to leave when it no longer represents your interests.
A life advice!
That’s a sure fire way to always feel lonely.
@@neverbeganforme I am not lonely. I am selfish. You still think that most people aren't coping their loneliness. I will tell you that people who hate being alone hate themselves the most. I strongly believe that most people hate being alone.
What exactly am I missing out on?
@@MourningDove-bn4dk I wouldn’t say they hate themselves, it’s more so that nothing is worth it if you’re all alone. I don’t know what you’re missing out on because I don’t know what you desire.
@@neverbeganforme You need to be used in order to feel like you matter. That doesn't answer why your own validation cannot be enough. I would view others as simply elements that should compliment your life, not be your life. How do you live when they are not around?
It is a rhetorical question. I am merely pointing out that the grass is not greener on the other side. Most people don't appreciate what they have being alone.
Interesting you spoke on the subject of Gatekeeping. TFM last night talked about this on his stream on why hobbies, shows and movie are going woke. He brought up the Asch Conformity experiment on basic how the powers that be used gaslighting to change the perspective of the group to make it hard for dissenters to point out what’s wrong and a particular hobby or genre? We see this irl with what Lucasfilm and Disney Star Wars. TFM pointed out that the alphabet agencies believed that young men were being radicalized by certain games, movies and TV shows. So the intention was basically to make all these properties woke to pacify the potentiality of aggressive men in the culture. So basically no property of film, games or genres are not safe from this tactic. His solution was simply this, If some goes WOKE, Don’t buy that new stuff. Don’t engage with woke crap in your media. Which is what other content creators have been saying for years.
Vote with your wallet.
Interesting theory, which is certainly possible however I feel like if true then agencies are even more stupid then I gave them credit for because what I have noticed both in myself and other men irl around me is that as our distractions get killed off and there are less ways to distract us we are instead turning more and more agressive and dissatisfied. I've definitely been seeing a correlation between an increase in violence paired with the increase in wokeness. So instead of pacifying men I've noticed more men acting out. Joining gangs, causing riots etc. As well as other unsavory things I rather not even type out as my comment would get deleted by YT for sure haha. Almost all men nowadays are also fanatical gym goers who do at least a combat sport or two. So basically if pacifying men was their plan then at least locally it has horribly backfired.
@@DutchThricemanyea even now as more and more hobbies get ruined I just get angrier not that I'll be a criminal but if it weren't for friends focusing on old material I'd be angry all the time with no outlet.
What radicalizes young men is not having an outlet and speaking with others. That's the real thing: *they don't want men talking or sharing notes, hence why they go after rp/mwa content*
This fucking imbecile thinks voting has an impact
I would say it's hard, I won't say it's impossible. I've seen creators that put up a hostile front to scare away the normies.
It's ts not about enjoying a niche hobby, for the normies its just another thing to look hip and "in the know".
Anime was almost gatekeeping to nerds. When i was younger anime was probably not as popular as it is today. You got stores that sell a lot of anime bs. Maybe i lost interest in anime because it got too mainstream.
Anime used to be an escape from normies, and then it became a magnet for them
I think that anime is broad enough that there will always be sections of it which are _highly_ mainstream (usually Shonen adaptations like Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, My Hero Academia, Demon Slayer, etc.), while others are relatively niche, such as mecha, obscure 80s/90s OVAs, cyberpunk, etc. As with most entertainment, the majority of the really good stuff is from 20~30 years ago (at least, that's what I seek out).
Communities die when women become part of them
I mean when was the last time you did a DnD campaign pre-2010 and a woman was involved? They only started becoming players after it became “mainstream” or acceptable
Yes, then the "other" communities follow the women in and it fundamentally changes.
That's how you get dnd livestream channels with the entire cast having strange mental illnesses and the campaign is about tri-gender pyro-foxes battling the patriarchy.
Stepping stones of endless suffering.
Gate keeping is possible if such hobbies and values are edgy outside the norms of society and human values
Discarding and filtering aka exclusivity first should always be the main rule
Hardcore vs casual basically
Then they'll tell you it's always been that way and disparage you for saying that you've lost your hobby.
Elden ring comes to mind! The souls games were niche and had a cult following of few due to difficulty. I hope mainstream does not ruin it in time.
You can gatekeep locations but you can never gatekeep an idea.
I remember when youtubers couldn't make money off their videos. I remember when the floodgates opened in 2011 and suddenly a lot of previous youtube viewers started to make videos once they realised they could make a sustainable living from it. And then i remember the next generation of creators who saw people get rich & famous off youtube started to make videos to take their shot at getting rich and famous rather than being genuine fans of the medium. At that point I have to accept that the mainstream site culture no longer catered to the original audience.
There isn't really a solid answer to this other than to never let yourself get too emotionally invested in ideas that you don't control. Maybe consider creating the content that you wish to create in your designed medium. It's not a perfect solution but the less reliant you are on a world that doesn't care about you the better.
If Warhammer 40k can't be gatekept than nothing can.
Sadly it's true, I see comments on a certain website all the time when some hobby goes bad and people say "should have gatekept harder". But there really is no way to do that. All it takes is one video to go viral or one company to make something tailored to the masses and it's over. You are never getting your comfy hobby back. I've seen it happen multiple times growing up, watching things I love turn into things I hate. Because the new "fans" don't actually care about what you loved, it's just the temporary thing they use as an excuse to hang out. They will move on as soon as there is a next thing to plunder. But sometimes it takes so long before they move on that the original thing is all but lost and forgotten.
Here in my area, we never had that cliquey sort of funnel of people into certain hobbies. We didn't habe jocks, nerds, whatever other ridiculous stereotype other places had. People just didn't what they enjoyed. Farmers sons liked world of war craft. My brothers now a civil engineer and did very well in magic the gathering, yet he also loved combat sambo, out door survival, etc. Heck, at the magic the gathering meet up comic book shop, which was located in downtown gang territory, some of the locals from those clu s got into magic the gathering. The owner couldn't really tell them no. Some of them apparantly invested a very large amount of money into the hobby, which I'm sure the owner also enjoyed being that he sold the cards aswell. I know many guys that enjoy hunting and quacking, that to this day still sit down and read a green lantern graphic novel in the evening. Iv goke to comicons however, and habe gone with my brother to his magic the gathering tournaments in other locations. Yes, it seems that for some reason, our oasis is a bit different, and you don't see any fellow guys that do combat sports.
Normies are the zombies.
I hate that anime and manga went mainstream around 2010ish.
Same, Then it went really mainstream around c0vid
Now people try to argue that gaming was never seen as pathetic. Interesting gaslighting because it feels so unnecessary.
Exactly this. I remember I got made fun of for wearing pink for breast cancer when I was in the fifth grade, now, fast forward 15 years later and it’s cool to wear the color now.
There is a lot of money to be made with video games and comics and similar genres like these. PBS has a show called Frontline, It can be decent at times. Decades ago there was a episode called " The merchants of cool". This episode showed how MTV and corporations like Spite used cool and hip people and under ground scenes to make a product cool and popular.
Now they are using "cool people" or influencers in the modern vernacular to promote shit that used to be lame and for nerds to create a larger market.
Creativity without a crowd is liberating. Small is beautiful. I actively prevent people from accessing me. You do not know me, and never will, by my art. I am free.
But how will I go through life without knowing funkymunky
@@b1zzarecont4ct Your ignorance has kept you alive so far.
"Gatekeeping is impossible"..... I disagree. Bricks are cheap
Okay buddy
What on earth do you possibly plan to do with that brick?
@@Kane.JimLahey. gatekeep the horde obviously; he clearly explained it.
With bricks, one can delay the normie zombie apocalypse
You neckbeard keyboard warrior cant gatekeep sh1t
Man its so crazy you remind me so much of renegade #1 aka logitorian, rip. In one of his videos he said "If an idea becomes popular with the masses it loses its impact." Im honestly glad he hasnt become popular either. His channel only has about 1k subs at the moment.
Maybe what we all need to do is take up more hobbies like chess that aren't centered around corporate-owned IP. The corporates are a weak link in the chain that activists love to exploit.
Gatekeeping is impossible, from outside the castle.
They can quite easily gatekeep, because they control the IP. Fortunately, they tend to destroy anything they have power over. As sad as that may be for things people once enjoyed.
I would urge people to write their own books, draw and paint their own art, and compose their own songs. Mainstream popularity will *always* take the thing you like in directions you don't want it to go. Whatever you're a fan of, it will become a dreary, soulless property that you barely recognize. Girls love to dress up and get attention, so comic book conventions became cosplay conventions; I'm old and I witnessed the change firsthand.
I used to enjoy gamedev and programming. Used to. It went mainstream sometime in 2018-2019 and now you look at gamedev forums and its either dudes talking about how to properly market their game or a ton of un answered questions because the wizards of back in the day have all realized that these people dont care about the hobby anymore. You used to actually have to be smart and put thought into your creations and do research but once it went mainstream normies started making bite sized content and reduced game developement to another hobby that anyone could do.
State of the hobby now? Complete lack of community and no one really cares about the art of any of it anymore. People now sell asset packs instead of making informative write ups / tutorials like back in the day (they did it because of actual passion). Engine producers are now scrambling to find ways to monetize their engines even further and if you actually make anything interesting youll have one hell of a time trying to sell it because everyone is trying it now.
I swear normies only purpose in the world are to make things worse so that real people have to overcome trials to prove themselves to God
DnD at it's core is just play pretend meets math.
What? You guys don't want a MCU version of 40K? Who wouldn't want to see the absolute cinema of The Emperor actually had a secret daughter no one knew about and was banished because she was more powerful than him, just to return and take the Emperor's place lol
Henry Cavil tried to keep it accurate, but those dei zombies hired by the (((hats))) ultimately sabotaged it
That's literally going to happen, the banal predictability of evil.
Also, he was gay. Stunning.
Edit: I just thought about this, but there are a collection of 40k horror stories making the rounds on Warhammer channels. One has a main character racing through the story to protect his husband and their daughter. His husband.
This isn't fanfic, it's part of the universe now.
What's interesting is that Halo has become irrelevant even though they have the best aesthetics in any IP ever. The day will come when the IP will be on the market as will Star Wars as will any other IP.
Halo kinda went to shit when they ruined the aesthetics (Halo 4 onwards).
@@Whoyouwishyouwere I miss bungie halo
@@marcuscole1994 we all do
Not gatekeeping, but putting it in a natural mountain defense!
For some reason, White men are not allowed to do gatekeeping; unless they are controlled by others.
Gatekeep your personal Focus.
The only gate you can keep is where your attention and money go. Even with that, taxes and the need to work for a living prevent you from possessing absolute power over you money and attention.
Your goal in life is to devote as much attention to your interests as possible while keeping other's interests from impeding upon your own. I chose a job that interests me for a living. It also pays pretty well.
Taxes. In CA I was an independent contractor and could deduct my significant business costs. CA changed its laws so now I can't take those deductions anymore. I'm in the process of figuring out my exit strategy while working remotely.
This is gatekeeping 101 -- keeping other's interests from side-tracking yours.
I don't play any video games so I had nothing in that domain for them to take from me. Hollywood has destroyed the movie industry so I no longer buy their product.
If you still purchase entertainment that corrupts its foundations, you invite the parasites to feast on your money and attention.
Gatekeep your money and attention. It's the only thing sustaining the parasites you loathe.
The whole point of the internet was to get away from the everyday normal life of normies. With the rise of smartphones, everyone and their momma can now become "social media influencers"; gargle and spit shitty content on a whim. And I absolutely hate how people think the internet is a one dimensional platform for a quick dopamine rush. People use smartphones like slot machines, I swear.
it was nerds that sold the phones to them.
Just start a secret society. Its that easy.
I see what you did there.
Same thing at Dutch Comic Con.
This new generation of "comic book geeks" doesn't know anything beyond what happened in the Disney movies and shows and have never even been anywhere near an actual comic book.
I watched all the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter movies, but i would never dare call myself a fan, because i never read the books as a true fan should.
Which Spider-Man villain joined Silver Sable's Wild Pack?
Which martial art does Chris Powell study?
What false identity did Matt Murdock use in the '90s when he had faked his own death?
Which super hero team did Night Thrasher use as the inspiration for his New Warriors?
Who replaced Batman when he broke his back?
You don't know, because you never did any of the the actual work and just watched some movies and shows, yet you dare call yourself a fan?
Well, cosplaying as an Avenger or Harley Quinn and buying some Funko Pops does not make you a comic book fan.
When you tell them Nick Fury is white and that Tony Stark is an alcoholic, they have no idea what you're even talking about.
Also, there's way too much manga and anime.
As an old school Seinen manga/anime enjoyer I fully agree, the vast majority of anime/manga nowadays (edit* even more so then before/in the past) is beyond trash and about 90% reincarnation bs.
I'm not even a hardcore fan but I knew fury was white and tony a drunk since I was 6 or thst the ancient one was an old Tibetan man or Hawkeye was a former circus performer and criminal with horrible luck cause he was simping for Black Widow. You should see how many peopel look at md funny since the MCU started.
Tony stark is alcoholic?? Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
💀 bro acknowledged Rehab Room as "the true Lord of Black Pill". It's so ovER, boys
How did such a zoom zoom discover this man's content? You are the subject of this recent discussion
@@-______________________ ikr 😆. If only I were gullible, I could be watching Scamza's fake hope. But I get heightpilled every time I leave my basement
@@joyboy-zx I can almost guarantee that is where you spawned
@@-______________________ 😆 alright, enough of this jestermaxxing, mate
💀blud is rehab from ohio ongggg no cap 💀💀
5e DnD popularity was cute for awhile but the fruitcakes made it theirs and ruined everything.
Before the internet came along, interest in computers was also the domain of the "nerds". I remember it well. Face-forward to the mid 1990s, it was now cool to own a desktop computer, with the internet.
It’s as if they made everything easier or more accessible for other people.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. My my at least some things are respected like Shredders Revenge but the stuff that includes Seth Rogan is complete gunk. Crapping all over it. Same can be said as Resident Evil, Spider-Man, etc.
I graduated high school in 2002 and back then anime was just for freaks. I almost didnt want to be associated with the crowd in some hopes at being popular. Fast forward to 2017 i came back to anime for personal reason and when i no longer cared what anyone thought of me. Knowing nothing of the current state of things, i still thought things were like they were in 2002. But little by little i started to realize anime had become completely mainstream. It especially hit me when i saw multiple hxh shirts on display at a hot topic. At that point i realized i just needed to be an underground fan otherwise i would just be like everyone else.
I realize the following is a controversial point but one could argue that "grifting" began with comic books way back in the late 1970s - early 1980s when they began to serve as a form of softcore pornography for teenagers who were either too young or ashamed to purchase mainstream adult content like Playboy magazines, a development largely driven by the creative output of writers and artists who often drew from their own experiences with sexual frustration and self-inserted themselves into the stories they created. Of course, they also realized that "sex sells" - as the saying goes - and they had bills to pay like everyone else.
Once a profitable Market is discovered. It doesn't matter where it is or how popular it is. It's going to go mainstream if money can be made.
Couldn't even gatekeep western civilization.
I agree. It seems that other civilizations are allowed to do gatekeeping, but Western civilization is not allowed to do the same thing.
My anime is still for the most part in a good state, I can survive...
This ties in well with the recent video about "baseline"... there is not much that will last. Make it a skill of yours to become good at adapting to change.
The algorithm is definitely pounding you into oblivion
You just popped back up into my feed and lo and behold umpteen videos youve uploaded since last saw you
If you don't own the IP how could you possibly gatekeep it?
They ban you not the other way around.
Everything I eat, turns to shit.
Slowly learning my greatest fear as a writer is people seeing me as too inappropriate when I want to be. Now I'm seeing this and in a way it's helping to get over that. If it's a given to anything then I don't have much to worry about.
Liking atla in 2010 - loser! nerd! kid with arrow on his head, sPoNgEBoB is bettEr brO
Liking atla in 2020 - badass bro 🗿
Only hobbies that are properly gatekept are the expensive ones.
You know, ever since I was little, I've had this odd behavior where I've never been into anything that becomes too popular for some reason. I always thought this behavior of mine was a odd back in the day.... like if there is something I like, and it becomes super popular, I generally lose interest. For example, I never liked World of Warcraft, but I've always been a DnD fan. It's become clear to me that I just have a natural instinct to avoid all the poser-normies and their completely fake attention seeking, ego centric, version of reality that just ends up being a whole bunch of white noise to someone like myself who's very much only interested in objective reality and not some fake "me centric" reality that all the normies live in. These people are a disease on my mental capacity to think and reason clearly... which obviously translates to my instinct to lose interest in anything that becomes too popular. I need these people as far away from me as I can so I can think about things that matter and not think about things that don't matter. MGTOW has the distinct advantage here, since it will never be mainstream as normies will never understand these advance concepts, or even if they do, they will never agree with them and will always reject MGTOW out of hand because of it. Thus MGTOW will live forever as a place for intellectual conversations and debates, which is one more reason MGTOW is great!
You know, taking this concept one step further, MGTOW really is my people, and this is my home, because we are talking about stuff that actually matters here. The media portrays us all as losers who just hate woman, and maybe the Media is doing us a favor actully "Yeah were all sad losers who hate woman and are gay, now FUCK OFF!" is what we should be telling every normie we see. Sadly these human parasites will probably smell our raw intelligence and start invading our spaces to pretend they are anywhere near as clever as we are. Me must guard against their invasions.
As a general yes. I think some things gatekeep themselves by default of being terribly niche, and that's not always a bad thing. But yeah, I warned friend geeks about this kind of thing years ago and got called a worrywort for it. In the end, I settled on just playing the games I like as I like with those I like and passing on my way of playing it to like-minded so that hopefully that survives and leads to better down the road.
Look how they ruined the reputation of the boys comic. The comic had a very solid critique on hedonism and corporatism but now Amazon toned it down and changed a lot of crude elements and now everyone praises that little baby version over the comic. We truly live in a time where everything has to be toned down and with a happy ending
Fitness as an example was always a vain pursuit. But now those who been into fitness for a long time are able to see how dorky we actually looked making fitness our personality when we see a bunch of normies recording themselves exercising in every corner of the gym.
It goes beyond nerds. In the 90s me and a few of my buddies started lifting weights at a hardcore bodybuilding/powerlifting gym. People knew about weights because of Arnold but powerlifting was definitely a niche thing. Now there’s massive strength community online. Eddie Hall and Brian Shaw are borderline household names.
If it can be monatized, it will be main streamed. The J’s have made that certain.
Just like Red Pill Philosphy
All these nerd hobbies and franchises were sold out by their creators long ago, were just now witnessing the consequences of it.
I miss the 2000's era for videogames, it kind of felt like a balance of both nerd and dudebro culture without the drawbacks of going mainstream.
its over
If youre a defeatist you will always loose.
Or you will always tight!
You need the normies for the hobby to breach obscurity. It becomes worthwhile for companies to produce accesories and items to play the hobby. Innovation occurs. There is enough interest you can book events and convention, having famous and key people attend. Once it grows too large, it needs more people to grow and you start pandering the the lowest common denominator. Then yeah, it's gone.
The only way to fix this is to change IP laws things shoulfmd go public domain the minute the creator dies and IP should not be sellable so no corpiration can have exclusivity over it absent a temporary license from the author.
being mainstream was good before 2014 but now you have to deal with politics
i think being mainstream was great in the past but now things will get political because of our bad culture
Like stuff that gatekeeps itself, lolicons are masters at it.
I wanted to be hopeful and deny this for a while, but it's true, I always knew in the back of my mind that no matter how aggressive are the repsonses they get, nothing will change for the better until they get and remain in positions of power in companies. I already see the cracks im the Godzilla Fandom thanks the the American Monsterverse movies, and especially because of the Monarch show.
collecting vinyl. In the past eight years....when women deemed collecting records was now cool.............said vinyl geeks, music lovers now have to "be nice" and teach them and the like and women then have the nerve to say "female artists" are not represented enough in the stores. Not enough "female owned" record shops. The usal griping they do when they enter any area.
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I never linked or thought about this inversely, but I always noticed anything that becomes popular goes to 💩.
Tattoos in 1980s badass/freak.Tattoos 2024 normie trying to look badass or freak.
I used to follow marvel comics religiously in early 2000's. I was a big nerd for DeadPool I knew if others knew I would have got wrecked. It's weird seeing people running around with tattoos of marvel characters now.
interesting video
I believe comics, video games, and rpgs became normalized due to the demasculation of society. People used to call such things "girl-repellant", now most guys are so invisible to women why would they even care?
i would also like to note you cant gatekeep what you dont own many of these hobby's many of these franchises are not owned by the fans despite what the fans think they are most often own by the IP holder, corporations and individuals and are at the mercy of such if they desire to burn it down or change it to something thats no long recognizable they can do that and there is nothing the fans can do, as i said you cant gatekeep something that doesn't belong to you or you dont own and thats a bitter pill fans are going to have to swallow.
You dont have to gatekeep Brutal Slamming Death Metal.
I know that only a handful of people love the subgenre 😂.
and its actually modernized trash. old school death metal is the only way to go.
@@thepirateage6396 true but old school death metal is filled with fans that are posers.
@@cannedbread1955 nowhere near as many as a lot of other things. The internet makes everything MORE popular. Just how popular it is, is the question. Osdm is niche as fuck. I think a lot of people will say they like death metal but all they've ever heard is a bunch of songs from sound of perserverance and some retarded melodeath crap like amon amarth and in flames.
@@thepirateage6396 Metal elitist detected. 😁
Someone should make a clip compilation video of all of the closings of TA's videos. Makes sure they are in chronological order so we can hear growing frustration with the algorithm. I agree that it does not like his videos, that is a compliment. The algo favors mindless crap,
Is there a way to build in gatekeeping when you create a new hobby or game?
28% is the popularity sweet spot😊
True insight.