Well, we can conclusively say that they're definitely best as *under*wear 🤣 Very detailed outline of how these work. I used to wear a mesh vest under my cycling jersey that worked really well in hot and cold temperatures but for some reason it's never occurred to use it for hiking! I'll have to give it a go and see what impact it has 👍
Definitely only underwear! In some other videos I've seen people reviewing mesh stuff, they also said that cyclists have been using them for ages already
I used to wear string vests as a teenager but then got seduced by modern high-tech "wicking" baselayers and stopped. I started again last year and they are great. They are lighter and more compact, they are warm in cold weather and cool in summer and the ultimate in breathability. I wear a thin Merino or synthetic top over it and then a light Paramo Quito wind/waterproof jacket (with lots of vents) over that, and I'm comfortable from 10C down to -5C while active. Above 10C I remove the jacket and if it gets below -5C I add a puffy over the baselayer. I haven't tested that combo to its limits yet, but mesh baselayers are definitely a win.
Update! I have been skiing in Lapland this week using the same fishnet system under a shell suit. I am not super fit and I sweated a LOT but it worked well. The sweat on my back (under a rucksack) wicked through the mesh to a merino layer and wetted that out but mostly my skin was dry. It would have performed better if there were vents in the shell suit. By comparison, my legs stayed dry throughout the 15km ski trip.
@@snowcelt From your video I think only Aclima would be an option for me as it is made with merino wool. I am looking for a natural fabric. However, I doubt if anyone out there makes 100% natural fabrics. The manufacturers tend to blend in at least 5% of something synthetic for durability or elasticity... Is Aclima 100% merino wool? I can't find this information on their website.
@@go2filip Hi. yes they all include some elastane or polyamide to add durability and flexibility. I guess you'd have to shop around to see which has the highest merino wool content.
Thx for the review. I have 2 of the Aclima tops n would offer after washing to hang dry. One of mine shrunk in the dryer by one size. Otherwise I agree these are very useful.
As a biker, maybe you're already aware of mesh vests that cyclists use? I checked on RUclips, there are lots of videos about mesh or fishnet base layers that cyclists use in winter. It was new to me! ☺️
I never wear down while physical active. I save my down for a rest break. I have worn both the cotton and poly fish net over the years like the Brynje. They are simple straight forward fishnet with no solid panels. Great for back country ski trips or biking as well as hiking.
@@tomsitzman3952 I don't either, normally. This was just an experiment so that I would produce heat and sweat without having to carry a full backpack or run a long distance and then I could test how fast I cooled and how good the mesh was at wicking sweat.
@@shadowdance4666 Polypropylene mesh from Svala of Finland. I wanted to try different meshes to compare them. These were cheaper than the Aclima merino mesh.
@@snowcelt no I meant the outside pants. I need something a bit more durable in the seat which is comfortable and wind resistant because I spend a good deal of time on my bicycle. Are they a nylon blend because they look comfortable
@@Aeroburous Hi. They performed well! I had the mesh layer next to my skin, a merino wool layer on top and then a "shell suit" as a wind blocker. The sweat wicked away nicely from my skin to the mid and outer layers and I felt relatively dry. I had a belt pouch on for carrying juice and snacks and where it made contact the mesh was wet.
@@aaronleung8809 for snowboarding or wearing fur while snowboarding? 🤣. Seriously though, I think they should work well. I have done a basic course in snowboarding years ago and I sweated buckets but how much an experienced boarder normally sweats, I have no idea.
Hey Kevin man. Love the fishnets.. they should really change the name. Sounds way too sexy for my liking 😅😅 you live in one beautiful place man. Interesting results. It's mad. I always find you can hike in really cold weather with light layers. Did a challenge recently where I had just 2 light layers on, a snood, hat and gloves. As long as you keep moving. Interesting results man.
I’m going to experiment and cut 3 holes into a mesh laundry bag and wear over my torso and see how it functions before shelling out $70 for a mesh T-shirt
@ I might have to take the ole vice grips off the wallet on this one because I would like to see how the polypropylene works. The wool nylon blend I use now is a huge improvement over the polyester that I used wear. Live and learn. Life is an experiment
@whatsnottohike Indeed. Aclima is reasonably priced and Svala cheaper still. I think as more manufacturers cotton on to the idea of mesh, it will become cheaper (I hope).
@ yes you are quite correct. Polypropylene is the most hydrophobic from what I understand. I looked for a mesh drawstring laundry bag made from polypropylene but all I could find was the small zippered bags. The second best would have to be polyester but polyester makes me sweat profusely. I honestly do better with a 50/50 T-shirt than pure polyester
I had tried brynje mesh basic layer. Very dissapointing. The sweat soaks full in the mesh and that feels very uncomfortable. Not useful for hikeing. Waste of money.
@@Posturehelper I don't understand your point. My mesh leggings are synthetic, the top is merino wool mesh. I sweat more on the top than on my legs, hence the difference in materials.
I agree that synthetic mesh won't hold moisture as well as merino. The guy I replied to has a brynje base layer which I assumed was wool. But the point is that mesh (wool or synthetic) allows moisture to pass through to the next layers. What happens then depends on those layers and their ability to wick, absorb or allow moisture through. If the skin is dry, you stay warm (er). Am I missing something?
Yes. It can happen. Especially on your upper back and if have a backpack on it. Also on chest and arms. Most likely there is a mistake in your layering system. The next layers are too warm (dense) to allow an air flow. Or your base layer (and all other layers) too tight to your body. The idea of a mesh is that it does not stick to your skin ( a very familiar feeling with cotton or most other non-mesh fabricks). But it does not neceserrily help with overheating. You can try Wyggis fishnet, it is nylon, which tends to keep it's temperature in more constant range, but the feeling will not be that of a dry skin, but rather moist warmness (you may not like it as well)
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This is the bravest man on RUclips. And appreciate it - I have come to love the mesh baselayer. It's a gamechanger!
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Well, we can conclusively say that they're definitely best as *under*wear 🤣 Very detailed outline of how these work. I used to wear a mesh vest under my cycling jersey that worked really well in hot and cold temperatures but for some reason it's never occurred to use it for hiking! I'll have to give it a go and see what impact it has 👍
Definitely only underwear! In some other videos I've seen people reviewing mesh stuff, they also said that cyclists have been using them for ages already
I used to wear string vests as a teenager but then got seduced by modern high-tech "wicking" baselayers and stopped. I started again last year and they are great. They are lighter and more compact, they are warm in cold weather and cool in summer and the ultimate in breathability. I wear a thin Merino or synthetic top over it and then a light Paramo Quito wind/waterproof jacket (with lots of vents) over that, and I'm comfortable from 10C down to -5C while active. Above 10C I remove the jacket and if it gets below -5C I add a puffy over the baselayer. I haven't tested that combo to its limits yet, but mesh baselayers are definitely a win.
Great to hear someone else having success with this method 👍🏆
Update! I have been skiing in Lapland this week using the same fishnet system under a shell suit. I am not super fit and I sweated a LOT but it worked well. The sweat on my back (under a rucksack) wicked through the mesh to a merino layer and wetted that out but mostly my skin was dry. It would have performed better if there were vents in the shell suit. By comparison, my legs stayed dry throughout the 15km ski trip.
Thank you for your review. I was looking for a test like that.
No problem. Have you given any thought to what brand you will get? Brynje, Aclima, etc.?
@@snowcelt From your video I think only Aclima would be an option for me as it is made with merino wool. I am looking for a natural fabric. However, I doubt if anyone out there makes 100% natural fabrics. The manufacturers tend to blend in at least 5% of something synthetic for durability or elasticity... Is Aclima 100% merino wool? I can't find this information on their website.
Oh, I found it now... WoolNet is 80% wool and 20% polyamide...
@@go2filip Hi. yes they all include some elastane or polyamide to add durability and flexibility. I guess you'd have to shop around to see which has the highest merino wool content.
that's commitment! but with all joking aside, thanks for the informative video as am looking into getting some. Stu
You're welcome! ☺️
Fantastic presentation man 👌👌
Thanks. ☺️
Thx for the review. I have 2 of the Aclima tops n would offer after washing to hang dry. One of mine shrunk in the dryer by one size.
Otherwise I agree these are very useful.
Ok, I just wash mine a 40C, stretch it and hang to air dry. It shrank a bit also. The mesh leggings I have from polypropylene can be washed at 60C.
Very interesting. I'll have to look into these. Thanks for this.
No problem!
As a biker, maybe you're already aware of mesh vests that cyclists use? I checked on RUclips, there are lots of videos about mesh or fishnet base layers that cyclists use in winter. It was new to me! ☺️
@@snowcelt I had no idea. Thanks.
I never wear down while physical active. I save my down for a rest break. I have worn both the cotton and poly fish net over the years like the Brynje. They are simple straight forward fishnet with no solid panels. Great for back country ski trips or biking as well as hiking.
@@tomsitzman3952 I don't either, normally. This was just an experiment so that I would produce heat and sweat without having to carry a full backpack or run a long distance and then I could test how fast I cooled and how good the mesh was at wicking sweat.
A like just for dearing to show this in front of whole RUclips 😜👍🏻
@@willemhenk 😜😜😜
What kind of pants are those?
@@shadowdance4666 Polypropylene mesh from Svala of Finland. I wanted to try different meshes to compare them. These were cheaper than the Aclima merino mesh.
@@snowcelt no I meant the outside pants. I need something a bit more durable in the seat which is comfortable and wind resistant because I spend a good deal of time on my bicycle. Are they a nylon blend because they look comfortable
@shadowdance4666 ok. They are from a Swedish company called Revolution Race. They are approx, 65% Cotton 35% polyester, with some elastane.
@shadowdance4666 www.revolutionrace.fi/miehet/housut/ulkoilu-vaellushousut/rvrc-gp-pants-men?Size=M&Color=962&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAjp-7BhBZEiwAmh9rBZfazihVgt4FFo5ZCE3VwVidPRJR8-1F8h_SinTxFS72oBokP8mc8hoC74IQAvD_BwE
How did they perform while skiing?
@@Aeroburous Hi. They performed well! I had the mesh layer next to my skin, a merino wool layer on top and then a "shell suit" as a wind blocker. The sweat wicked away nicely from my skin to the mid and outer layers and I felt relatively dry. I had a belt pouch on for carrying juice and snacks and where it made contact the mesh was wet.
What about fur snowboarding?
@@aaronleung8809 for snowboarding or wearing fur while snowboarding? 🤣. Seriously though, I think they should work well. I have done a basic course in snowboarding years ago and I sweated buckets but how much an experienced boarder normally sweats, I have no idea.
Hey Kevin man. Love the fishnets.. they should really change the name. Sounds way too sexy for my liking 😅😅 you live in one beautiful place man. Interesting results. It's mad. I always find you can hike in really cold weather with light layers. Did a challenge recently where I had just 2 light layers on, a snood, hat and gloves. As long as you keep moving. Interesting results man.
Hope there were trousers included in those layers! 😳🤣
God that is some look .
Thanks Kevin .. hope you receive my pay Pal donation
It is! Function over form!
@@snowcelt brother you are talking to the converted , whatever works .
Grab the bulk by the horns and get success . That's what counts
I’m going to experiment and cut 3 holes into a mesh laundry bag and wear over my torso and see how it functions before shelling out $70 for a mesh T-shirt
@@shadowdance4666 Go for it! Tell us how you got on. 👍
@ I might have to take the ole vice grips off the wallet on this one because I would like to see how the polypropylene works. The wool nylon blend I use now is a huge improvement over the polyester that I used wear. Live and learn. Life is an experiment
Definitely the best thing to wear. But not at Brynje prices 🤣
@whatsnottohike Indeed. Aclima is reasonably priced and Svala cheaper still. I think as more manufacturers cotton on to the idea of mesh, it will become cheaper (I hope).
@snowcelt for sure. I think decathlon will eventually have some. They have the cycling one and work in a similar way. Thanks!
If I see that on the trail, I’ll definitely follow, there is a party with str***er🎉🎉🎉
Polypropylene is a plastic. Not to be confused with polyester or nylon
@@shadowdance4666 All three are plastics, are they not?
@ yes you are quite correct. Polypropylene is the most hydrophobic from what I understand. I looked for a mesh drawstring laundry bag made from polypropylene but all I could find was the small zippered bags. The second best would have to be polyester but polyester makes me sweat profusely. I honestly do better with a 50/50 T-shirt than pure polyester
I had tried brynje mesh basic layer. Very dissapointing. The sweat soaks full in the mesh and that feels very uncomfortable. Not useful for hikeing. Waste of money.
@@karlkrassnitzer6819 Pity. Did you have a merino layer on top of the mesh? I found that this config worked quite well for me when x-country skiing.
@@Posturehelper ???????
@@Posturehelper I don't understand your point. My mesh leggings are synthetic, the top is merino wool mesh. I sweat more on the top than on my legs, hence the difference in materials.
I agree that synthetic mesh won't hold moisture as well as merino. The guy I replied to has a brynje base layer which I assumed was wool. But the point is that mesh (wool or synthetic) allows moisture to pass through to the next layers. What happens then depends on those layers and their ability to wick, absorb or allow moisture through. If the skin is dry, you stay warm (er). Am I missing something?
Yes. It can happen. Especially on your upper back and if have a backpack on it. Also on chest and arms. Most likely there is a mistake in your layering system. The next layers are too warm (dense) to allow an air flow. Or your base layer (and all other layers) too tight to your body. The idea of a mesh is that it does not stick to your skin ( a very familiar feeling with cotton or most other non-mesh fabricks). But it does not neceserrily help with overheating. You can try Wyggis fishnet, it is nylon, which tends to keep it's temperature in more constant range, but the feeling will not be that of a dry skin, but rather moist warmness (you may not like it as well)