@@JaydenAlemkeng I can kinda agree with that just due to all the irl shit Kai does in his stream. What people aren’t realizing is there’s a whole other side to twitch and just like Kai has this massive fan base mouse does too
You guys actually need to grow up, hating on a girl who can't go outside, someone who's trying her best and got what she deserved, she's kind too. You guys are probably the "good" guys that girls won't get in a relationship with. I get it, you find her cringe, that's fine, but hating? Really? I might find your argument valid if you weren't such a child. Kai is probably disgusted by you I have met children younger than you kai fans and they're mature as an adult, and they live poorly.
Its people jumping on a hate train, they support Kai, so when they see this random anime girl suddenly surpass him in subscribers they see it as undeserved and begin to hate on her.
@@ANTONIPETRICA all you have on your about me is "suck deez nutties". You have no motion in your life, your parents probably regret not going to the clinic when you were in development, anyone you're friends with wish to find better people, you probably even like anime but want to be different so badly in a RUclips comment section where only I have the time to pitt you with attention.
Ok, so apparently going after someone with a life threatening illness that's almost as bad as cancer is the logical thing to do when they surpass your favorite streamer.
He went on her stream too! He was in animated 3D and freaking out about how cool it was even though his model was thrown together so fast that it was kinda janky. His legs kept jumping around. But yeah you can tell he's just a genuine guy and wants no bad blood between them or their fans, and he respects other creators regardless of how much he understands their content. Also seeing Mouse get really into Elden Ring was kinda interesting since Kai had a huge Elden Ring arc. Both of them had no real Dark Souls experience going in and had to struggle their way to the end, so really some of their content is just about the same? Idk I haven't watched Kai either but any snippets I've seen have been just him having fun, so hopefully more and more of his fans can just take up that attitude and have a good time.
Not a fan of both kai and iron mouse (or any streaming stuff in general) but hating on a girl thats bedridden and so sick while still having an energetic happy energy whenever she streams is just sad
I don’t understand yall never seen this person in real life but everyone swears she’s a terminally ill girl ? That’s the part that makes it weird how people defend someone who will never do a face reveal?
@@Flatbush_Savage "I don’t understand yall never seen this person in real life but everyone swears she’s a terminally ill girl ? That’s the part that makes it weird how people defend someone who will never do a face reveal?" - some duder that should donate plasma and stop hating for no reason.
@@Frogur-of-the-century I watch kai from time to time and I just recently learned who ironmouse is. What I'm saying is why do people care so much about the record being taken. Sht does not impact anybody's life nor does it impact the streamer cause theyre both multi-millionaires.
Kai cenat'fans' are no real fans at all,i mean look at kai he doesn't even look like he cares,he respects ironmouse and supports her aswell, literally social media is the worst place for people who shouldn't even use it
credit to this guy for sticking up for her, It's just such a shame some of his fans are pieces of shit. If you only knew anything about Ironmouse's situation or personal life they wouldn't be saying such things online
For those who don't know, Ironmouse has a condition that prevents her to leave her room let alone go outside her house because her immune system in her body isn't stable enough for her to do the things others can do no problem.
The real world for her is 10 times more deadly than Elden Ring's open world. Literally ANYTHING can be dangerous for her. Streaming is one of the very few things left she can do in her life. It's messed up that haters try to take away the few things she has left, when she already had EVERYTHING taken away from her in the first place.
I started watching Ironmouse way before Kai and they're both amazing creators. She deserves all the recognition! It's disgusting and deplorable that his fans would attack her and harass her like this. It lowkey makes me ashamed to be a fan of Kai when some of them act like this. I’m sad they both have to deal with this, especially Kai. He’s a great dude and an awesome streamer, and having his fans act like this must irritate him.
@@change.1 ? What are you talking about, i think there is a Misunderstanding, because I don't see any blame shifting against Kai in any way, so what Made you think Like that?
@@notxvexorr4379 calling her out for what exactly? Not showing her face? Donating to charity the only cringe thing here would be trying to hate on a woman for breaking a record that could easily be taken back if Kai wanted.
Again, will never understand the hate for her, I'm not a V-Tuber fan, yet I don't attack them. But people literally have no lives, and absolutely hate their own that they must attack anyone who is actually doing well, or anyone who is trying to do something different, Kai has one of the most toxic chats I've ever seen on the platform not to mention I'm not a fan of his content either but again, I'm not going to attack him either. I really just keep saying these people need to go touch some grass, if the internet died tomorrow, These people would more than likely game end themselves anyway and no one would miss them. It's sad to type it out like that, but it's a fact of life. Humans have become more pathetic as time continues to go on.
The logic that kai deserves the record more than ironmouse because he does irl streams and 'works hard* is so braindead. Going by that logic someone like connor should easily be the biggest streamer. The guy works his ass off in the cyclothon every year
@@King_of_Mango simp? why simp? is it because she happends to be female? stop hating dude, i can garuntee that kai also has simps but he didn't get popular because of that now did he. ironmouse got popular do to her skills and tbh her complete ability to keep moving and always being able to find a way forward. donate plasma my dude. maybe watch a stream from a few Vtubers you might like it. if you don't that's ok.
@ yes it’s because she is female, sorry my brother not all are simos but a good quarter of the fan base are simps. This is how Twitch is. I don’t like Kai or iornmouse but i don’t get the fascination with iron mouse or v tubers in general
@@King_of_Mango i would say otherwise, based off of watching her chat throughout many streams (yes i watch her sometimes) i barely see any real simps, maybe one or two here and there, but i see almost none tbh. Oh, and i can say the same about IRL streamers, I'm not too interested in them and have no idea why people watch them. the part where you refer to not understanding the fascination with Vtubers is purely just opinion. One more thing, don't tie all Vtubers in the same circle, they are all different. many with different art styles, many different content and such, just like other streamers.
@ Mabe it was just a few instances but three times I went to check her out there were 8 simps in the chat actively. Not saying it’s her whole fanbase but a lot if vtuber fanbases are boob=good
That is no reason to hate anyone. Literally. Ironmouse has her audience and all your favorite streamers have their diferent audiences. Isn't it beautifull that we live in the world were everybody can find what they like to watch? Isn't it beautifull that we not stuck with TV like 20-40 years before. Btw, thanks to Kai for those words. If influencers starts talking to their audiences in a way to stop hate, world will change. At least some part of it.
Fans are so blind to to following their creators that it's really sad, he should of had told them to stop hating on ironmouse, just saying she deserved the award isn't enough. If he did please show me a clip of it.
@@reanliebertch.7297 nah. He needs to clearly state multiple times. "Stop hating on ironmouse. If your going over on her channel to harass her you aint no fan of mine" but he wont do that because none of these people have any integrity
idk why Kai fanbase is that toxic like, can you trying to get information of a person that you criticize first before anything, like c'mon she is bedridden for crying out loud, and she still doing charity to help people that has condition like her, and you have to ruining it.
Basically anime=bad and watching woman=simps its the mindset of a typical toxic fanbase. Also would go to war just to get a ride of their favorite streamer's meat these people over exaggerating this bs these people don't even hate each other it's like forcing 2 golden retrievers to kill each other both are just too nice to even to that
@notxvexorr4379 Yes I do. It means that you think you have a relationship with someone (usually a celebrity, stranger or fictional character) that does not know you, or doesn't exist. Basically they think they're friends with someone who doesn't know them.
Ironmouse has been around longer than Kai all these new gens who only got into twitch streamers bc of Kai don’t rlly know anything abt her she’s amazing
its crazy that people forget that there are many different areas of twitch. kai and ironmouse can both break records and be huge streamers without them taking anything away from each other. the kai fans need to stop hating (i mean they are children so)
Like how these haters label her as "fictional" (which is very disrespectful treatment toward her) and using their lack of knowledge about Vtuber to dunk a hate on her
@@rikerdavis2843 Behind Ironmouse or even other Vtubers avatar, they're still human And what are you on about? I'm not even say anything about VShojo Universe whatever you wanna call it is real
No one it’s kinda intuitive. Kai cenat has a huge audience among kids, teens and young adults. When the kids see their favorite streamer/tiktoker/youtuber getting beat or rivaled in their own game it just happens. We’ll be having to tell people to be mature until the end of time.
@@suruxstrawde8322 theyre literal children, and when we mad at them they say we are arguing with kids, i swear parental violence needs to be excused from the law
@@hierarchlaurencethe thing with ninja is the man was an ego maniac and people only liked his gameplays his fans started hate him and his friend also started to hate him
3 possible reasons 1: typical dumb fanboys who can't even respect his wishes to not harass her 2: idiots who thing just because THEY find her cringe then everybody should ignoring they are the cringe ones 3: Misoginistic idiots, and let's be honest, if ironmouse wasn't a vtuber she would still get a lot of this hate supposedly directed at her for being a vtuber just because she is a woman and some assholes can't have women having anything nice sadly
@@manncake6828 Now it's happening between CaseOh and Pekora on gaming award as well despite CaseOh already warned them to always respect anyone and not hating, yet both fanbases still fighting each other.
It's funny when two opposing parties are chill with each other then the fanbase are just hating😂😂 Can't realate with the hate tho I'm a fan of both Kai, Ironmouse and, Speed lol
The only person I know here is Ironmouse and I'm not even subbed to her I've seen a few videos on YT and that's it. Let me tell you this is not a good first impression for me 💀 seeing this guy's fans viciously attack her and calling her names is not a good look but at least he's not not being awful about it even if his fans are
some yall a bunch fo meatriders. i dont even watch her, but i watch her friend, connor. he talked about the situation about ironmouse, which honestly is just sad. so insane that this all started bc she won last year's game awards and some fans got so mad. besides, she's nice. she donates to charity who research about her illness. she's also done a auction stream w connor and a few famous others. kai and ironmouse just had a collab which was funny asf. idk some yall just haters
And his fan to this day still hates her . Doesn't even know her history or what she's going trough . But anime bad. Lol , she's living rentfree in their head.
She’s personally not for me since I decided to watch a stream and she cusses like a teen that just left their mom’s house. For me it’s annoying but I guess for millions that’s not too troublesome. The only thing I hate is the amount of D riding simps I see in her chat whenever I decide to see what she is up to
@@King_of_Mango like how kai have d riders too? You can't say that when kai's fans literally beefing with a terminally ill person. Everyone have different things they like, doesn't excuse hating on someone for imaginary numbers
@@King_of_Mango tbh I don't have any attachments to both parties but I'm just annoyed at how people treat each others less than animals just because of their streamers. The streamers don't even really care that much, it's just number games. It's the stupidity of the masses to harass and become hypocrites that grinds my gears.
Honestly, I couldn't pick a better Vtuber. Not taking anything from Kai the man put in the hours and worked his grind. It's just a different scene and you can tell by the comments alone. Yes, Mouse is a spicey chaotic gremlin with an addiction to plushies so bad she's turned a proud British man into her plushie vending machine. But outside of that calling out Ironmouse is just punching down and not even punching down on blue haired hater. Big ups to Kai for being man enough to own the moment and actively put his chat on notice. And who knows if Kai plays his cards right, he can link from Ironmouse all the way to Russian Badger, the networking is there.
if you hate her because of that then you are living in a small world. Vtuber fans are crazy fanatic, ofc in a good way. If she breaking the record your favorite streamer and its a prove btw I dont really watch vtuber, but I admire their community to keep solid since covid, its been 4 years and they still keep existing I though the popularity of vtuber are just going to go down slowly but Iam wrong.
that's a bit different here. T-series was basically a botted music channel that printed out music videos while pewdiepie was the biggest solo developer on youtube. It was more like the little engine that could.
Im 12 yet i know im much more mature than the people in here, i dont even know her to be honest, but why cant people just cant get over ironmouse surpassing Kai, he congratulated her even telling you guys that she is a leaderboard streamer. People probably hat her due to the stereotype that Vtubers are some 50 year old gooner men behind the screen and is trying to seduce people. This is just like the movies where some good for nothing nobody surpasses an all time champion. People always say that people in the movies are dumb, unrealistic and wont actually happen or do in real life, but here we are.
Who gives a fuck about this shit bro I swear. I looked their name up thinking it was some fucked up shit they did... No, it's just some normal shit instead. All the ppl creating hate out of this need to touch grass asap
because its slop she get the type of hatred all the other youtubers get but they are pushing the slop to get views if it was anybody else no one would care
real. she's getting a bunch of death threats which is insane after she won game awards, WHICH BTW HAS BEEN A YEAR. it's gotten so bad conner (friend) had to talk about it. she's gen a good person who donates to her illness research. idk why ppl would hate on her
@@shrimplyholy because she was not the one who won Vshojo did by buying and handing out subs using her as a mascot just to win the award ppl are getting upset because they are seeing those sub accounts inflated for just that one reason this a 11m dollar private company not a youtuber with a small team and her personal life is irrelevant she don't even want you to know who she is on any personal level beside she sick and need money i enjoy her show as a fellow vtuber but they should of had a different category for corporate channels and vtubers with sponsors, 30 plus employees and 11m in backing buying gifted subs to hand out just makes the platform "pay to win" if its all about subs to win the award. death threats is something most creators have to up with from time to time on all platforms its not ok but it comes it the territory so thats just slop these youtubers are pushing for views we all had to deal with that at some point so that is nothing new
@@mk8_it The way you said all that and believe it, is wild man. Please show proof of these"purchased votes" and all of what you said. They do have multiple tiers for award shows, and there is an indie one, an up and coming one, and more. way to show you dont know anything here.
@@VinhKyVT i can tell you didn't even bother really reading the comment if so you completely misses the point and the other awards you mention are irrelevant. the focus is on the most subscribed award. there are NO tiers for that award and i was speaking about gifted subscriptions not "paid votes" . .anyway you need to focus more on engaging individuals on social media properly because you have a vtuber debut coming up and good luck! you truly are going to need it.
To allow everyone to move forward, a collaboration between Ironmouse and Kai is currently in the works. It's getting really difficult, and I don't want to witness another Hogwarts Legacy scenario.
At this point, a Ironmouse and Kai collab is inbound so that everyone can just move on. Seriously, it's getting very rough and I don't wish to see another Hogwarts Legacy situation.
ive never seen him or his stuff before ... dont agree with him calling mouse AI sh*t .... but unlike his fans hes not a baby about being beat ... very mature and logical about it respect
Telling the truth, mostly except "it was pretty well put together for, you know... for like, for AI shit." Still couldn't make the video without a throwing some misinformation in there to encourage the haters.
Its not like you can expect kai to really know about ironmouse, he doing is own thing atleast he’s being salty about it on stream like other creators would. I cant believe this is something people get mad about like damm
People on the other hand don’t even pay attention to a whole different side of twitch which it’s witch part of that is called Vtubers that they care nothing for and doesn’t care about nonfictional characters they They know nothing the iron mouse was already famous from the start so they need to start charging a book by its cover just because it’s a woman behind the scenes
I know he called her AI heare but I think it was just some regular old brain fart and he just lost his word and used the closest word that came to mind. I think he's pretty cool and all and some of his fans are just pretty young and really into his stuff and we know how aggressive and unnecessarily toxic kids can be sometimes for no reason. I also have to say I've seen a small group of weird ironmouse fans who treat some innocent comets as an attack on mouse which is stupid. All the hate directed in any way is hurting boath streamers so calm down people and cool of Mouse said she likes Kai and Kai said he likes Mouse and I think boath are pretty cool.
these people hatin for no reason 💀 kai cenat respects it, and really if he tried hard enough he could easily take the record back but he's choosing not to to respect ironmous
I don't know about that, seeing how he's in the middle of another subathon with the goal to break the record. While he did congratulate Mouse, him trying to reclaim the record only a month later really makes him look greedy.
I think the sole reason why people hate ironmouse beating kai is because ironmouse was not even close when it comes to popularity than kai. She's barely known by people on yt so people was angry when a v tuber who they almost never heard about beating one of the most popular streamer on the internet.
@@notxvexorr4379 The girl who immune deficiency caused her to unable to interact much with real world, had to close up herself in her own bed, always getting sick even in control environment. One dealt with bad card but still persevering Yeah let's just called her a weirdo
@@gjulia312 people dont know that tho. Dont talk like people intentionally call her weird because they know that. 99% of the people who see her just see that she is a vtuber. And vtuber are weird. They always have been. Its not normal to hide yourself behind a anime charackter and interact with people like this. That Supports degeneracy.
@@icfsjwfiwj no it doesn't??? Some people legit don't want to get stalked their whole lives or targeted for their looks, so they hide behind a character in order to lessen those threats of happening, sure everyone is entitled to an opinion but hiding your face online is legit nothing new, and I don't think people would of been interested in seeing a constant bed ridden person. If it was something you liked you people wouldn't be saying this and it's highly judgmental, if you find it weird just say that cause it's your opinion, but don't call it degeneracy when some of these people contribute more to society than you ever will.
No hate thrown at anyone here but like how does this Virtual youtuber surpass Kai Cenat, seeing the amount of collaborations and the bizarre things he's physically done on camera for his viewers, always bringing something new to the table that leaves the viewers in awe, compared to this Virtual RUclipsr that does simple playthroughs of video games reacting as a drawing on the screen that moves left and right, it just seems odd.
Some VTubers (while not all and I might understand that some of them might cause a bit of cringe) are known to be pretty charismatic and great entertainers too, just for a different kind of demographic. Ironmouse in this case is known to be a really generous, wholesome and down to earth person, not only does she do collabs with other big streamers (not only to VTubers), but she does many charity streams for many things. Many people resonate with her a lot because of the amount of effort she has done in her career, pushing forward despite her incapactiating illness. She's genuinely a good person and many people really like her for that. But in short answer, it's mostly a different streaming genre for a different demographic, for people who like seeing something more chill or wholesome. The avatar is just an aesthetic decision for people who just want to play a character or just not show their face at all. I think both Kai and Ironmouse are great streamers on their own, just different content for different people.
ironmouse is a vtuber because of health reasons, she has an illness called common variable immunodeficiency, which has left her largely bedridden. for this and some other reasons, she decided to keep her identity private, but still wanted to have a reactive facecam, so she became a vtuber. oh, and just for the record, i dont watch livestreaming at all, from ironmouse or anyone else, i also dont watch vtuber content, i just got informed on this situation. thats all
Because she is entertaining...? Obvious fucking answer. People support and watch her because they are entertained. You watch Kai do his shits and you're entertained. Ironmouse does her shit and her viewers are entertained. It's simple as that yet you can't grasp it. You seem to only see the worth when materials things are involved, like spending huge amounts of money for collabs like Kai do.
What kind of excuse to be mad is this? Because its a cartoon character on the screen😂? I dont watch ironmouse but damn bro this argument sucks like clearly she gotta be entertaining
bro we got a god🦆 anime girl with simps who dont got outside and be looking like caseoh but if he was a discrod mod and has a room that cant be called room but garbge dumb because of how dirty it is, beating kai cenats record, if you can do this this easily, if miku streamed on twitter, twitter might have to shut down for a few weeks💀
@@blastergirl1097 as a white guy i feel like kai cenat should have won its so cringe seeing a white woman act like a 10 year old child behind a screen shes giving us white people a bad look
This is my first time hearing of “ironmouse” Can someone explain to me what I’m looking at? Is it a man using voice change or is it an actual girl? Does anyone know what it looks like, or am I completely wrong and everyone knows this woman and I’m mistaking this pink anime character as ironmouse? I honestly can’t make heads or tails out of what I was looking at when I went on their channel.
no, she's not a man. Ironmouse is a female Puerto Rican Virtual RUclipsr and Streamer who has been streaming since August 2017. She is known for her singing, her crazy personality, and her high-pitched voice. While originally an independent streamer, she is now part of the agency VShojo.
@@jean-pierrechapoteau1556She isn't actually that popular, people just send alot of subs to her because she does it for good cause by donating 50% of the money she got to charity for people like her or the sane condition as her
@@anangelslamb do I care if he's chill she's not worth of all those subs + I'm not even a kai fan I don't even watch him but he's more of a entertainer than her
i rlly dont wanna see the community of ironmouse irl. We all know what type of people subscribed to her and what they are doing while watching the stream
They donating to charity ikr how disgusting /s Ironmouse is disabled bro, people watch her coz she's a fkn inspiration not coz they're gooning - all the goons watch Amouranth. Reason she doesn't show her face is because she's literally on life-support at times. Saying as someone who doesn't even watch her, or Twitch in general. Learn a bit about someone before you start hating.
@@isaakvandaalen3899 Bro why is she an inspiration. If shes disabled and constantly on life support how can she stream for hours but not show her face. Its not that she´s not showing her face but someone whos on life support everytime shouldnt even be able to stream for hours. And her personality just like everyone who uses avatars. Remember as she got asked on why she doesnt show herself? She was like ,,Why do you have to look at me if you can look at this avatar''. She maybe just get some discord mods with that one but not people with stable mentality. And you. Dont come to me with learn more about people before hating them. You dont know me aswell why do you talk like if you would know. How do you know if i am watching twitch or not. Before supporting just one disabled people you should better support innocent people who are dying rn in war. Have a great day!
@@Manuelwww78 at least he tries she’s just an AI character tuber they don’t try all they do is play games. Kai has celebrities and he actually wants his viewers to watch she doesn’t care.
as a white guy i feel like kai cenat should have won its so cringe seeing a white woman act like a 10 year old child behind a screen shes giving us white people a bad look
as a white guy i feel like kai cenat should have won its so cringe seeing a white woman act like a 10 year old child behind a screen shes giving us white people a bad look
Anime ain't only available in America... almost all the countries have access to anime... the furry shi and those other stuff are self made... I feel like too much freedom caused that shi.... nowadays anybody be turning gay or bi etc....😂
Since the legalization of Japanese media the country has in fact gotten healthier both physically and mentally. We've come a long way from the anti asian racism of the past.
To be honest, a PNG tuber breaking the goat's record, who the heck subbed to her dude this is so down bad it's not because she's a girl it's just so unexpected! I'm not calling anyone down bad it's just that it's so unexpected that's all
sorry but just because something is new for you does not mean it's okay to hate and bully anyone. It's crazy how y'all just justify anything for the sake of disagreeing. Yes Ironmouse got popular during 2019-2020 . She's doing it to raise funds for health organization,much better than you judging right and wrong here. While y'all are here still correcting things which don't need correction she's doing something with her life. Like grow up bro.
I don't know when you watched Twitch, nor which three vtubers *livestreaming* on Twitch you could be referring to. But yes, for a younger Twitch streamer like Kai, Ironmouse has been there "all the time". He started streaming on Twitch in 2021, well after the 2019-2020 vtuber "boom" where Ironmouse and vtubing in general got much more popular. Ironmouse is foundational when it comes to *livestreaming* vtubers, however. The first vtuber, Kizuna Ai, had only been active for less than a year (primarily doing prerecorded videos) when Ironmouse started *livestreaming* as a vtuber in 2017. Ironmouse predates Nijisanji's original Japanese generation by about half a year and Hololive's original Japanese generation by almost a full year. She predates Hololive's first English generation by over three years and Nijisanji's first English generation by almost four years. Ironmouse is truly an OG.
L comment broski, stop trying to project what you think as “what the people want”. Goofy aah you know for a fact that ain’t no one is gonna agree with your opinion either way so what’s the point man. Stop typing as if you’re high council.
No hate I just don’t get it. Her voice is annoying, there’s no realism to it. No real life elements just like watching cartoons. Honestly believe incels only watch her. Speaks a lot to how many there are
@@raph11223344brother i work IT and there’s a coworker st my job who’s a vtuber (same thing iron mouse is) he’s just a weird super nerdy guy . super nice but i don’t get it either, its not hate just confusing how people enjoy this.
@@spectre8469 its not a different format than a normal streaming. you just have a avatar instead a face and if the streamer is good its just entertaining to listen to in the background.
or maybe cause she got a chronic condition that makes it hard for her to just walk and yet she still streams for her fans while being hooked up on a machine💀
@@Pharospig2443 whats more loser behaviour is ganging up on a bedridden patient, kid, i wish your father and mother seen you and your internet activity
the biggest streamer on all of twitch one of if not the biggest supporter of the immune deficiency foundation a latina woman who started streaming becaus she wanted to make friends who tf are you
It’s crazy that the fans are pissed about mouse passing Kai and he really doesn’t care 😂
no one cares about her passing him it's about who passed him
@@nchokoti6056 why does who it was matter
@@smokeniv9460why a vtuber
@@JaydenAlemkeng I can kinda agree with that just due to all the irl shit Kai does in his stream. What people aren’t realizing is there’s a whole other side to twitch and just like Kai has this massive fan base mouse does too
Probably not the ones who’ve been watching Kai for a long time, they already watched a mouse pass him in his old apartment
You guys actually need to grow up, hating on a girl who can't go outside, someone who's trying her best and got what she deserved, she's kind too. You guys are probably the "good" guys that girls won't get in a relationship with.
I get it, you find her cringe, that's fine, but hating? Really?
I might find your argument valid if you weren't such a child.
Kai is probably disgusted by you
I have met children younger than you kai fans and they're mature as an adult, and they live poorly.
Its people jumping on a hate train, they support Kai, so when they see this random anime girl suddenly surpass him in subscribers they see it as undeserved and begin to hate on her.
@@PUNtasticwoman fr, I made a comment about this too
@@PUNtasticwoman always the guys with the animals pfp
@@ANTONIPETRICA all you have on your about me is "suck deez nutties". You have no motion in your life, your parents probably regret not going to the clinic when you were in development, anyone you're friends with wish to find better people, you probably even like anime but want to be different so badly in a RUclips comment section where only I have the time to pitt you with attention.
Animals?@@ANTONIPETRICA
Ok, so apparently going after someone with a life threatening illness that's almost as bad as cancer is the logical thing to do when they surpass your favorite streamer.
yall hating on ironmouse. she donated 50% to charity bruh damn
Brainless "fans"
i like that he can have his crazy ass moments but at the end of the day he’s a dude doing his dream job and lovin it
I have never watched Kai before, but this video alone made me respect the hell out of the man.
SAME!
He went on her stream too! He was in animated 3D and freaking out about how cool it was even though his model was thrown together so fast that it was kinda janky. His legs kept jumping around. But yeah you can tell he's just a genuine guy and wants no bad blood between them or their fans, and he respects other creators regardless of how much he understands their content.
Also seeing Mouse get really into Elden Ring was kinda interesting since Kai had a huge Elden Ring arc. Both of them had no real Dark Souls experience going in and had to struggle their way to the end, so really some of their content is just about the same? Idk I haven't watched Kai either but any snippets I've seen have been just him having fun, so hopefully more and more of his fans can just take up that attitude and have a good time.
Not a fan of both kai and iron mouse (or any streaming stuff in general) but hating on a girl thats bedridden and so sick while still having an energetic happy energy whenever she streams is just sad
Let em they can do what they want
What's the story about the hate??? I literally had no idea
This is how the community should’ve acted. Those people hating ironmouse for beating kai have no place to talk
Kai is more mature than his 14 year old fans
cause bro is grown 14 should have sum manners too but like they still minors :P
@@vincey_maddyhe was makin a joke
how was i supposed to know?
@@vincey_maddy basic principles of irony
@@King_Neptune69 Welp
She did it for charity. She almost decided not to do subathon for charity. But chat pushed and wanted it.
Sorry man but doing something what you didnt want to just for the chat shows that shes mostly doing it for views. Shes not an inspiration
@@TerraBeastHBso everybody including kai?
@@TerraBeastHB
It shows she cares more about entertaining fans than the status actually.
Kai is such a real one, as an ironmouse fan hes got all our respect. And if Kai beats Ironmouse we will cheer him on too!
W Kai
W Ironmouse
L haters and those comparing who is better than who while they just doing their stuffs
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@@Greevheattak Wow such a good comeback 🤯 Stick to simping for this cripple because that shit ain’t hitting
Never knew people could cope harder than KSI, but then again look at people who meatride hating on a terminally ill girl
I don’t understand yall never seen this person in real life but everyone swears she’s a terminally ill girl ? That’s the part that makes it weird how people defend someone who will never do a face reveal?
@@Flatbush_Savage "I don’t understand yall never seen this person in real life but everyone swears she’s a terminally ill girl ? That’s the part that makes it weird how people defend someone who will never do a face reveal?" - some duder that should donate plasma and stop hating for no reason.
@@Flatbush_Savage What I don't understand is why do you even care lmao. You don't know them nor do they know you.
@@Yummybat56Don't take it personally but so do the fans. From BOTH sides.
@@Frogur-of-the-century I watch kai from time to time and I just recently learned who ironmouse is. What I'm saying is why do people care so much about the record being taken. Sht does not impact anybody's life nor does it impact the streamer cause theyre both multi-millionaires.
Kai cenat'fans' are no real fans at all,i mean look at kai he doesn't even look like he cares,he respects ironmouse and supports her aswell, literally social media is the worst place for people who shouldn't even use it
credit to this guy for sticking up for her, It's just such a shame some of his fans are pieces of shit. If you only knew anything about Ironmouse's situation or personal life they wouldn't be saying such things online
For those who don't know, Ironmouse has a condition that prevents her to leave her room let alone go outside her house because her immune system in her body isn't stable enough for her to do the things others can do no problem.
She actually has primary immunodeficiency which means she has little to no immune system at all
The real world for her is 10 times more deadly than Elden Ring's open world. Literally ANYTHING can be dangerous for her. Streaming is one of the very few things left she can do in her life. It's messed up that haters try to take away the few things she has left, when she already had EVERYTHING taken away from her in the first place.
I started watching Ironmouse way before Kai and they're both amazing creators. She deserves all the recognition! It's disgusting and deplorable that his fans would attack her and harass her like this. It lowkey makes me ashamed to be a fan of Kai when some of them act like this. I’m sad they both have to deal with this, especially Kai. He’s a great dude and an awesome streamer, and having his fans act like this must irritate him.
These people were cult, plain and simple 🤣
I can tell by your comment and phrasing that you subconsciously want to throw the blame on kai lol the “amazing streamer” part was just a cop out.
@@change.1 I actually don’t. I watch both of them. I meant what I said.
@@change.1 get out of here, you minor
@@change.1 ? What are you talking about, i think there is a Misunderstanding, because I don't see any blame shifting against Kai in any way, so what Made you think Like that?
Mouse, Kai and mouses fans aren’t even pressed about it, it’s only the kai fanboys who have problem with it and feel threatened that she passed him
Kai meatriders in the comments frothing at the mouth over this shit ☠️
Not even a Kai Cenat fan and I'm still hating 🙌
@@nelsonace14 good for you?
Meanwhile y'all frothing over a fake anime girl and crying at anyone calling her out just because she's dying.... That's cringe
@@notxvexorr4379 calling her out for what exactly? Not showing her face? Donating to charity the only cringe thing here would be trying to hate on a woman for breaking a record that could easily be taken back if Kai wanted.
@@notxvexorr4379 typical kai cenat fanboy behaviour 🤭
Again, will never understand the hate for her, I'm not a V-Tuber fan, yet I don't attack them. But people literally have no lives, and absolutely hate their own that they must attack anyone who is actually doing well, or anyone who is trying to do something different, Kai has one of the most toxic chats I've ever seen on the platform not to mention I'm not a fan of his content either but again, I'm not going to attack him either. I really just keep saying these people need to go touch some grass, if the internet died tomorrow, These people would more than likely game end themselves anyway and no one would miss them. It's sad to type it out like that, but it's a fact of life. Humans have become more pathetic as time continues to go on.
Kai and Ironmouse should collab
That would be terrible that person he or she would lose their subs coming to find out who that person really is
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@@100bxnes dumb
@@100bxnes huh..?
@@Fhdjskwoaospskswj2h2beb Bro said he or she not their fault they didn't know their gender
The logic that kai deserves the record more than ironmouse because he does irl streams and 'works hard* is so braindead. Going by that logic someone like connor should easily be the biggest streamer. The guy works his ass off in the cyclothon every year
It’s not the “work” but rather the simps numbers I am bothered about.
@@King_of_Mango simp? why simp? is it because she happends to be female? stop hating dude, i can garuntee that kai also has simps but he didn't get popular because of that now did he. ironmouse got popular do to her skills and tbh her complete ability to keep moving and always being able to find a way forward. donate plasma my dude. maybe watch a stream from a few Vtubers you might like it. if you don't that's ok.
@ yes it’s because she is female, sorry my brother not all are simos but a good quarter of the fan base are simps.
This is how Twitch is.
I don’t like Kai or iornmouse but i don’t get the fascination with iron mouse or v tubers in general
@@King_of_Mango i would say otherwise, based off of watching her chat throughout many streams (yes i watch her sometimes) i barely see any real simps, maybe one or two here and there, but i see almost none tbh.
Oh, and i can say the same about IRL streamers, I'm not too interested in them and have no idea why people watch them. the part where you refer to not understanding the fascination with Vtubers is purely just opinion.
One more thing, don't tie all Vtubers in the same circle, they are all different. many with different art styles, many different content and such, just like other streamers.
@ Mabe it was just a few instances but three times I went to check her out there were 8 simps in the chat actively.
Not saying it’s her whole fanbase but a lot if vtuber fanbases are boob=good
That is no reason to hate anyone. Literally. Ironmouse has her audience and all your favorite streamers have their diferent audiences. Isn't it beautifull that we live in the world were everybody can find what they like to watch? Isn't it beautifull that we not stuck with TV like 20-40 years before. Btw, thanks to Kai for those words. If influencers starts talking to their audiences in a way to stop hate, world will change. At least some part of it.
Fans are so blind to to following their creators that it's really sad, he should of had told them to stop hating on ironmouse, just saying she deserved the award isn't enough. If he did please show me a clip of it.
you misunderstood he literally explaining
he can say whatever he wants, lots of his viewers are super young and will hate anyways. its the same with any other giant community, always bad eggs
@@reanliebertch.7297 nah. He needs to clearly state multiple times. "Stop hating on ironmouse. If your going over on her channel to harass her you aint no fan of mine" but he wont do that because none of these people have any integrity
idk why Kai fanbase is that toxic like, can you trying to get information of a person that you criticize first before anything, like c'mon she is bedridden for crying out loud, and she still doing charity to help people that has condition like her, and you have to ruining it.
Coz they are bunch of kids you know how they be...Like wtf Kai dont even really care, but the fans be crying and hating
Basically anime=bad and watching woman=simps its the mindset of a typical toxic fanbase. Also would go to war just to get a ride of their favorite streamer's meat these people over exaggerating this bs these people don't even hate each other it's like forcing 2 golden retrievers to kill each other both are just too nice to even to that
@@manncake6828ye they're weirdly misogynistic for obvious children
This comment section is full of parasocial losers. Holy.
On everything bruh😭
js 10 yr olds glazing BADLY 😭
You don't even know what it means do you
@notxvexorr4379 Yes I do. It means that you think you have a relationship with someone (usually a celebrity, stranger or fictional character) that does not know you, or doesn't exist.
Basically they think they're friends with someone who doesn't know them.
@@Tootsuba most likely searched that up
People prolly hating her cause shes anime
Anime trash
@@marioangulo5740 i didnt ask for your dumb opinion so dont comment to me
@@doozeschanyt9554based opinion*
@ lmao youtube deleted my comment
@@doozeschanyt9554 why does yt do that?
happens to me sometimes too
Ironmouse has been around longer than Kai all these new gens who only got into twitch streamers bc of Kai don’t rlly know anything abt her she’s amazing
its crazy that people forget that there are many different areas of twitch. kai and ironmouse can both break records and be huge streamers without them taking anything away from each other. the kai fans need to stop hating (i mean they are children so)
Like how these haters label her as "fictional" (which is very disrespectful treatment toward her) and using their lack of knowledge about Vtuber to dunk a hate on her
What do you call the whole vshojo universe, if not fictional?
@@rikerdavis2843 Behind Ironmouse or even other Vtubers avatar, they're still human
And what are you on about? I'm not even say anything about VShojo Universe whatever you wanna call it is real
@@FreakinMORI Yes they are human using fictional avatars. You even admit it yourself, why try to say otherwise?
@@rikerdavis2843 but those people, those haters label HER or THEM as fictional (or an AI) no the avt that she or they using
@@FreakinMORI I stated what I stated. I am not going to excuse peoples ignorance
Imagine if her and Kai do a collab, Kai’s fans would have the biggest dilemma of their lives.😂
They probably should, if anything to at least shut the fanboys up
Sure some idiots will still complainnbut the majority of them will finally shut up
Who made this a Versus to begin with? People are childish.
No one it’s kinda intuitive. Kai cenat has a huge audience among kids, teens and young adults. When the kids see their favorite streamer/tiktoker/youtuber getting beat or rivaled in their own game it just happens. We’ll be having to tell people to be mature until the end of time.
Pretty sure the mouse haters are literal children
@@suruxstrawde8322 theyre literal children, and when we mad at them they say we are arguing with kids, i swear parental violence needs to be excused from the law
It just record break, you can get it back or not. It’s up to your decision, and Kai doesn’t care and even congratulates.
Respect both streamers. 🥂
Yeah, isn't it Ninja also did the same thing?
@@hierarchlaurencethe thing with ninja is the man was an ego maniac and people only liked his gameplays his fans started hate him and his friend also started to hate him
Bro got the mha type fans
Just gotta ruin everyone's fun
He's not even mad so why tf is everyone throwing a tantrum😂😂
💀what
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True that the most chillest guy got the most toxic fanbase
3 possible reasons
1: typical dumb fanboys who can't even respect his wishes to not harass her
2: idiots who thing just because THEY find her cringe then everybody should ignoring they are the cringe ones
3: Misoginistic idiots, and let's be honest, if ironmouse wasn't a vtuber she would still get a lot of this hate supposedly directed at her for being a vtuber just because she is a woman and some assholes can't have women having anything nice sadly
@@manncake6828 Now it's happening between CaseOh and Pekora on gaming award as well despite CaseOh already warned them to always respect anyone and not hating, yet both fanbases still fighting each other.
It's funny when two opposing parties are chill with each other then the fanbase are just hating😂😂
Can't realate with the hate tho I'm a fan of both Kai, Ironmouse and, Speed lol
The only person I know here is Ironmouse and I'm not even subbed to her I've seen a few videos on YT and that's it. Let me tell you this is not a good first impression for me 💀 seeing this guy's fans viciously attack her and calling her names is not a good look but at least he's not not being awful about it even if his fans are
some yall a bunch fo meatriders. i dont even watch her, but i watch her friend, connor. he talked about the situation about ironmouse, which honestly is just sad. so insane that this all started bc she won last year's game awards and some fans got so mad.
besides, she's nice. she donates to charity who research about her illness. she's also done a auction stream w connor and a few famous others.
kai and ironmouse just had a collab which was funny asf. idk some yall just haters
And his fan to this day still hates her . Doesn't even know her history or what she's going trough . But anime bad. Lol , she's living rentfree in their head.
She’s personally not for me since I decided to watch a stream and she cusses like a teen that just left their mom’s house.
For me it’s annoying but I guess for millions that’s not too troublesome.
The only thing I hate is the amount of D riding simps I see in her chat whenever I decide to see what she is up to
@@King_of_Mango like how kai have d riders too? You can't say that when kai's fans literally beefing with a terminally ill person. Everyone have different things they like, doesn't excuse hating on someone for imaginary numbers
@@happytuna7275 I don’t like Kai either but he seems less annoying to me personally.
varies person to person
@@King_of_Mango tbh I don't have any attachments to both parties but I'm just annoyed at how people treat each others less than animals just because of their streamers. The streamers don't even really care that much, it's just number games. It's the stupidity of the masses to harass and become hypocrites that grinds my gears.
Just look at recent comment section in this video lol, they still coping 🤣
Twitch viewers when their favorite rich video gamer gets slightly less money than another rich video gamer:
Honestly, I couldn't pick a better Vtuber. Not taking anything from Kai the man put in the hours and worked his grind. It's just a different scene and you can tell by the comments alone. Yes, Mouse is a spicey chaotic gremlin with an addiction to plushies so bad she's turned a proud British man into her plushie vending machine. But outside of that calling out Ironmouse is just punching down and not even punching down on blue haired hater. Big ups to Kai for being man enough to own the moment and actively put his chat on notice. And who knows if Kai plays his cards right, he can link from Ironmouse all the way to Russian Badger, the networking is there.
Its not rare that is always the fandom are in war and the ines they are supporting are just chill😂
Yea but that doesn't mean ppl aren't pieces of ass holes tho
Kai is such a cool guy and his 13 yr old fanbase is just riding him
if you hate her because of that then you are living in a small world. Vtuber fans are crazy fanatic, ofc in a good way. If she breaking the record your favorite streamer and its a prove
btw I dont really watch vtuber, but I admire their community to keep solid since covid, its been 4 years and they still keep existing I though the popularity of vtuber are just going to go down slowly but Iam wrong.
Y'all are mad because ironmouse broke the record, why didn't you all did the same when Pewds tried beating T-series?
Kai fans are loyal
@@Sydneyssimmons the meat riding is crazyyyy
alot of people teamed up with pewds it was a big thing
that's a bit different here. T-series was basically a botted music channel that printed out music videos while pewdiepie was the biggest solo developer on youtube. It was more like the little engine that could.
@@Sydneyssimmons and so is Ironmouse.
Im 12 yet i know im much more mature than the people in here, i dont even know her to be honest, but why cant people just cant get over ironmouse surpassing Kai, he congratulated her even telling you guys that she is a leaderboard streamer. People probably hat her due to the stereotype that Vtubers are some 50 year old gooner men behind the screen and is trying to seduce people. This is just like the movies where some good for nothing nobody surpasses an all time champion. People always say that people in the movies are dumb, unrealistic and wont actually happen or do in real life, but here we are.
W 12 im 11
Ur 12 stop talkin
@@Liana_ksv You're immature, you're not one to talk.
@@Liana_ksvChoosing to completely ignore what someone is saying because of age shows you're the one with less maturity 😐
@@Cinabonz womp womp like I gaf😂
So many fans of both sides either hard defending or hating for no reason while both are running up a crazy bag 🤣
So real, some fans be doing crazy shit
Who gives a fuck about this shit bro I swear. I looked their name up thinking it was some fucked up shit they did... No, it's just some normal shit instead. All the ppl creating hate out of this need to touch grass asap
because its slop she get the type of hatred all the other youtubers get but they are pushing the slop to get views if it was anybody else no one would care
real. she's getting a bunch of death threats which is insane after she won game awards, WHICH BTW HAS BEEN A YEAR. it's gotten so bad conner (friend) had to talk about it.
she's gen a good person who donates to her illness research. idk why ppl would hate on her
@@shrimplyholy because she was not the one who won Vshojo did by buying and handing out subs using her as a mascot just to win the award ppl are getting upset because they are seeing those sub accounts inflated for just that one reason this a 11m dollar private company not a youtuber with a small team and her personal life is irrelevant she don't even want you to know who she is on any personal level beside she sick and need money i enjoy her show as a fellow vtuber but they should of had a different category for corporate channels and vtubers with sponsors, 30 plus employees and 11m in backing buying gifted subs to hand out just makes the platform "pay to win" if its all about subs to win the award. death threats is something most creators have to up with from time to time on all platforms its not ok but it comes it the territory so thats just slop these youtubers are pushing for views we all had to deal with that at some point so that is nothing new
@@mk8_it The way you said all that and believe it, is wild man. Please show proof of these"purchased votes" and all of what you said. They do have multiple tiers for award shows, and there is an indie one, an up and coming one, and more. way to show you dont know anything here.
@@VinhKyVT i can tell you didn't even bother really reading the comment if so you completely misses the point and the other awards you mention are irrelevant. the focus is on the most subscribed award. there are NO tiers for that award and i was speaking about gifted subscriptions not "paid votes" . .anyway you need to focus more on engaging individuals on social media properly because you have a vtuber debut coming up and good luck! you truly are going to need it.
To allow everyone to move forward, a collaboration between Ironmouse and Kai is currently in the works. It's getting really difficult, and I don't want to witness another Hogwarts Legacy scenario.
Ninja need to take notes😂
this beef is basically like "goku vs saitama" 💀
lmfaooo underrated
yeah but make it worse. lately if nto this entire year or even earlier, she's recieved so many threats
@@shrimplyholy Threats for achieving a goal is diabolical bro 💀
@@Frogur-of-the-century fr. ever since she got best streamer 2023 AND beating him 3 times or so, ppl got so salty
he didn't literally mean "AI", he just misspoke.
At this point, a Ironmouse and Kai collab is inbound so that everyone can just move on. Seriously, it's getting very rough and I don't wish to see another Hogwarts Legacy situation.
ive never seen him or his stuff before ... dont agree with him calling mouse AI sh*t .... but unlike his fans hes not a baby about being beat ... very mature and logical about it
respect
He misspoke, calm down
he speaks really fast, i'm pretty sure he said "all that shit"
@@HellsPreacher13 I think he’s actually calm, he said he respected him being mature and logical
@@flaxx2551Didn't connor make it seem like he was being rude to her taking his words out of contacts?
Kai is a nice fucking guy
he’s going to pass it again. he said it last night.
They're pissed about mousey having a disease
the inability to stick to a subject is killin me
Kai, perhaps I judged you too harshly…
yall need to fukin move on about this
Kai already acknowledge her work and now yall still beefing over this?
Telling the truth, mostly except "it was pretty well put together for, you know... for like, for AI shit."
Still couldn't make the video without a throwing some misinformation in there to encourage the haters.
man kai just got no fuckin clue what he talking about 😭🙏 he tried his best 😭
Its not like you can expect kai to really know about ironmouse, he doing is own thing atleast he’s being salty about it on stream like other creators would. I cant believe this is something people get mad about like damm
People on the other hand don’t even pay attention to a whole different side of twitch which it’s witch part of that is called Vtubers that they care nothing for and doesn’t care about nonfictional characters they They know nothing the iron mouse was already famous from the start so they need to start charging a book by its cover just because it’s a woman behind the scenes
Keep making progress on your English lessons. You're nearly there.
@ sorry if you had a difficult time reading this my grammar is bad and I’m aware of that
@@ahmuadparks9248 It's not too much of an issue. I just recommend shorter sentences.
It helps to read through your comment after you type.
@@maximizerboythrowing shade and then feeling bad about it.. pick your poison 😂
I know he called her AI heare but I think it was just some regular old brain fart and he just lost his word and used the closest word that came to mind. I think he's pretty cool and all and some of his fans are just pretty young and really into his stuff and we know how aggressive and unnecessarily toxic kids can be sometimes for no reason. I also have to say I've seen a small group of weird ironmouse fans who treat some innocent comets as an attack on mouse which is stupid. All the hate directed in any way is hurting boath streamers so calm down people and cool of
Mouse said she likes Kai and Kai said he likes Mouse and I think boath are pretty cool.
Don’t u mean Both no disrespect
@@Lmao24-x7s sorry it's not my first language and I have dysleksia XD
@@PinkDeavill ohhh it’s okay
these people hatin for no reason 💀 kai cenat respects it, and really if he tried hard enough he could easily take the record back but he's choosing not to to respect ironmous
I don't know about that, seeing how he's in the middle of another subathon with the goal to break the record. While he did congratulate Mouse, him trying to reclaim the record only a month later really makes him look greedy.
@@Winternova23he literally said during his last subathon that if someone beats the record he’ll try to beat em again its positive competition 😂😂
@@Winternova23 "greedy" called competition dumbass, what are people just not allowed to surpass ironmouse? 😂😂
@@Winternova23 yeah well imagine you're record that you worked so hard for get taken away. I would've tried to take it back too
this generation is cooked anyways, nothin' will fix em. Let's move along
To be fair, Kai and Ironmouse are not the Top Twitch streamer. It's a guy from Spain that sometimes racks up 1 million concurrent views in stream..
Who is that?
@@marcusblackwell2372 ibai
Bruh this comment section, hop off the internet please get a hobby and a life you weirdos.
Respect to Kai for handling it well 🫡👍👍
He’s backkkkk
Bro they both rich as fuck why fans care so much? Of course Kai doesnt care. Hes a millionaire lol
Because These Kids praise their Streamer Idol like He is a New prophet, a "Moses", "Jesus", or "Mohamed"
Because he's still human? lol
Because they're at most 14 years old.
people hating are just uncultured yet
They not even pressed about it cause why would they be?
I think the sole reason why people hate ironmouse beating kai is because ironmouse was not even close when it comes to popularity than kai. She's barely known by people on yt so people was angry when a v tuber who they almost never heard about beating one of the most popular streamer on the internet.
Nah I've seen that people are just mad cause she's a VTuber
She's a weirdo
@@notxvexorr4379 The girl who immune deficiency caused her to unable to interact much with real world, had to close up herself in her own bed, always getting sick even in control environment. One dealt with bad card but still persevering
Yeah let's just called her a weirdo
@@gjulia312 people dont know that tho. Dont talk like people intentionally call her weird because they know that. 99% of the people who see her just see that she is a vtuber. And vtuber are weird. They always have been. Its not normal to hide yourself behind a anime charackter and interact with people like this. That Supports degeneracy.
@@icfsjwfiwj no it doesn't??? Some people legit don't want to get stalked their whole lives or targeted for their looks, so they hide behind a character in order to lessen those threats of happening, sure everyone is entitled to an opinion but hiding your face online is legit nothing new, and I don't think people would of been interested in seeing a constant bed ridden person. If it was something you liked you people wouldn't be saying this and it's highly judgmental, if you find it weird just say that cause it's your opinion, but don't call it degeneracy when some of these people contribute more to society than you ever will.
Why he have to call her AI tho
Maybe he doesn't know the right term.
@@jessfortyfour maybe a brain fart 🤷🏻♀️
I'd bet he just doesn't know anything about vtubers or AI
No hate thrown at anyone here but like how does this Virtual youtuber surpass Kai Cenat, seeing the amount of collaborations and the bizarre things he's physically done on camera for his viewers, always bringing something new to the table that leaves the viewers in awe, compared to this Virtual RUclipsr that does simple playthroughs of video games reacting as a drawing on the screen that moves left and right, it just seems odd.
Some VTubers (while not all and I might understand that some of them might cause a bit of cringe) are known to be pretty charismatic and great entertainers too, just for a different kind of demographic.
Ironmouse in this case is known to be a really generous, wholesome and down to earth person, not only does she do collabs with other big streamers (not only to VTubers), but she does many charity streams for many things. Many people resonate with her a lot because of the amount of effort she has done in her career, pushing forward despite her incapactiating illness. She's genuinely a good person and many people really like her for that.
But in short answer, it's mostly a different streaming genre for a different demographic, for people who like seeing something more chill or wholesome. The avatar is just an aesthetic decision for people who just want to play a character or just not show their face at all. I think both Kai and Ironmouse are great streamers on their own, just different content for different people.
ironmouse is a vtuber because of health reasons, she has an illness called common variable immunodeficiency, which has left her largely bedridden. for this and some other reasons, she decided to keep her identity private, but still wanted to have a reactive facecam, so she became a vtuber. oh, and just for the record, i dont watch livestreaming at all, from ironmouse or anyone else, i also dont watch vtuber content, i just got informed on this situation. thats all
Because she is entertaining...? Obvious fucking answer. People support and watch her because they are entertained. You watch Kai do his shits and you're entertained. Ironmouse does her shit and her viewers are entertained. It's simple as that yet you can't grasp it. You seem to only see the worth when materials things are involved, like spending huge amounts of money for collabs like Kai do.
Ironmouse has been on Twitch longer than Kai, so that's why he got surpassed
What kind of excuse to be mad is this? Because its a cartoon character on the screen😂? I dont watch ironmouse but damn bro this argument sucks like clearly she gotta be entertaining
Jesus
bro we got a god🦆 anime girl with simps who dont got outside and be looking like caseoh but if he was a discrod mod and has a room that cant be called room but garbge dumb because of how dirty it is, beating kai cenats record, if you can do this this easily, if miku streamed on twitter, twitter might have to shut down for a few weeks💀
The record got broken it’s not that much of a big deal it’s not like it’s going to change the course of history
No I’m not a simp I just like anime but not bad anime I like anime like one piece dragon ball and Naruto
Is bro so young he can't use damn?
@@blastergirl1097 as a white guy i feel like kai cenat should have won its so cringe seeing a white woman act like a 10 year old child behind a screen shes giving us white people a bad look
@@33Ӡu js posting this every where
😮🎉😮😮
deserved
how lol
This is my first time hearing of “ironmouse”
Can someone explain to me what I’m looking at? Is it a man using voice change or is it an actual girl? Does anyone know what it looks like, or am I completely wrong and everyone knows this woman and I’m mistaking this pink anime character as ironmouse? I honestly can’t make heads or tails out of what I was looking at when I went on their channel.
no, she's not a man. Ironmouse is a female Puerto Rican Virtual RUclipsr and Streamer who has been streaming since August 2017. She is known for her singing, her crazy personality, and her high-pitched voice. While originally an independent streamer, she is now part of the agency VShojo.
its a girl, she has a immune disorder so she uses a virtual avatar
@@crimnvL why is she popular? How did she come into fame?
@@jean-pierrechapoteau1556She isn't actually that popular, people just send alot of subs to her because she does it for good cause by donating 50% of the money she got to charity for people like her or the sane condition as her
@@jean-pierrechapoteau1556 She's funny, and she's a trained opera singer.
Who tf Is iron mouse dawg 😂
Like I tried watching her 2 min and shit wasn't even funny average vtuber dawg
@@albakingztv684 there is something for everyone and CLEARLY she's not for you
@@albakingztv684 ironic how ur hating on her when this video is about kai cenat being chill about ironmouse 💀
@@anangelslamb do I care if he's chill she's not worth of all those subs + I'm not even a kai fan I don't even watch him but he's more of a entertainer than her
Ragebait used to be believable lil bro..
i rlly dont wanna see the community of ironmouse irl. We all know what type of people subscribed to her and what they are doing while watching the stream
Ikr lol
Wdym?
They donating to charity ikr how disgusting /s
Ironmouse is disabled bro, people watch her coz she's a fkn inspiration not coz they're gooning - all the goons watch Amouranth.
Reason she doesn't show her face is because she's literally on life-support at times.
Saying as someone who doesn't even watch her, or Twitch in general. Learn a bit about someone before you start hating.
@@isaakvandaalen3899 she’s keeping it all to herself
@@isaakvandaalen3899 Bro why is she an inspiration. If shes disabled and constantly on life support how can she stream for hours but not show her face. Its not that she´s not showing her face but someone whos on life support everytime shouldnt even be able to stream for hours. And her personality just like everyone who uses avatars. Remember as she got asked on why she doesnt show herself? She was like ,,Why do you have to look at me if you can look at this avatar''. She maybe just get some discord mods with that one but not people with stable mentality. And you. Dont come to me with learn more about people before hating them. You dont know me aswell why do you talk like if you would know. How do you know if i am watching twitch or not. Before supporting just one disabled people you should better support innocent people who are dying rn in war. Have a great day!
Well the ppl that like ironmouse are just simpis dawg😭 nothing against her tho u don't watch her i ain't hating ik she's a vtuber that's all
i mean u is hating? n by ur logic kai viewers r simps too
Better than 10 year olds glazing kai
So you know nothing about her but people are simping because shes a woman? Are you always this fucking retarded?
I’m not a wimp in the slightest. In fact, I am not attracted to women at all.
Most veiwers are women and queer people from what I’ve seen.
Not a single person who uses the word simp is over 18
We need someone to speak like they aren’t being held at gunpoint or trying not to get canceled
He’s trying his best not to sound butthurt about being beaten by an anime character.
she didnt deserve shit
@@notpsychopath And kai does? He just a streamer like she is
@@Manuelwww78 at least he tries she’s just an AI character tuber they don’t try all they do is play games. Kai has celebrities and he actually wants his viewers to watch she doesn’t care.
@No0bo_vr AI? Lmao You don't even know what a v tubber is
and what have you done?
A FRIKING EGIRL PAST KA
This a whole nga behind that anime girl shi
as a white guy i feel like kai cenat should have won its so cringe seeing a white woman act like a 10 year old child behind a screen shes giving us white people a bad look
@@33Ӡshe's rican bruh 😭 and she got a disease that makes her stay home
@@33ӠDid you literally typed the same fucking reply in every comment
@@Dan-isdeadnobody gives a shit what color you are, you bringing up ”as a white guy” is so fucking irrelevant like go do something meaningful in life.
Okay Im just sayin that Kai is just trying to be nice to her cause if a cringe E-Girl would beat my record I’d be crashing outttt
On god wtf it’s the shit bro . Like mf really are here watching and donating to that .
@ fr
They have a reason to donate and it’s a good reason. Yall hating for nothing
@@jj_4430 i mean her donations was for charity its better than jst donating to a alrdy rich guy no?
The numbers don't lie
Who even is this person like no one knows you
as a white guy i feel like kai cenat should have won its so cringe seeing a white woman act like a 10 year old child behind a screen shes giving us white people a bad look
Bro ironmouse honestly deserves it she’s bedridden with a disease and her sub money from the subathon was all donated to a charity
bold and objectively wrong to say “no one knows you” about someone who has the most subs on twitch 💀
@ but tell me that most of the world didn’t know this girl until now
And your point is?
What anime has done to America
You should see what it's done to people in Wales😭 they stank so bad bro I hate going there🙏
Anime ain't only available in America... almost all the countries have access to anime... the furry shi and those other stuff are self made... I feel like too much freedom caused that shi.... nowadays anybody be turning gay or bi etc....😂
Made some people happy?
ok grandpa
Since the legalization of Japanese media the country has in fact gotten healthier both physically and mentally. We've come a long way from the anti asian racism of the past.
To be honest, a PNG tuber breaking the goat's record, who the heck subbed to her dude this is so down bad it's not because she's a girl it's just so unexpected!
I'm not calling anyone down bad it's just that it's so unexpected that's all
What a dumbass take, its an entertainer with an avatar, I don't watch her shit much but she seems pretty wholesome which is rare for twitch
Why are you so angry abt it lmao, from what ive heard ironmouse is really nice and chaotic
Happy 10th birthday sweetheart!
So how old are you…? 9? 10??? We both know it can’t be over 12
@@metalbat8414her voice is annoying and content is boring
I have a feeling that her fans r 40 year olds discord mods
Well everyone got their assumptions like how I have a feeling fans of Kai are 8 year olds or below
@@not_someone9348 shi ur right abt that tho
You're projecting.
@@DefinitelyNotBender cool
Idk I support both of them
Irnmouse is queen i hate kai cenat
Your mama
Shut up. Ain't no one talk to you
lol I hope that's u in your pfp
@@BasicGemini you didn't have to cook her like that but damn-💀
@@BiteMeBro8 why her head built like a Lima bean?
All time? Sorry when I used to watch twitch there were like 3 vtubers and she wasn’t one
Yeah like 10 years ago you boomer.
sorry but just because something is new for you does not mean it's okay to hate and bully anyone. It's crazy how y'all just justify anything for the sake of disagreeing. Yes Ironmouse got popular during 2019-2020 . She's doing it to raise funds for health organization,much better than you judging right and wrong here. While y'all are here still correcting things which don't need correction she's doing something with her life. Like grow up bro.
I don't know when you watched Twitch, nor which three vtubers *livestreaming* on Twitch you could be referring to. But yes, for a younger Twitch streamer like Kai, Ironmouse has been there "all the time". He started streaming on Twitch in 2021, well after the 2019-2020 vtuber "boom" where Ironmouse and vtubing in general got much more popular.
Ironmouse is foundational when it comes to *livestreaming* vtubers, however. The first vtuber, Kizuna Ai, had only been active for less than a year (primarily doing prerecorded videos) when Ironmouse started *livestreaming* as a vtuber in 2017. Ironmouse predates Nijisanji's original Japanese generation by about half a year and Hololive's original Japanese generation by almost a full year. She predates Hololive's first English generation by over three years and Nijisanji's first English generation by almost four years. Ironmouse is truly an OG.
Dude taking shit too literal, like damn you heard of hyperbole?
dang you obviously a kid with no knowledge of figure of speech
That’s not what the people wanted to hear
That was industry asl Kai.
How??
so what? he should just be negative and talk sht?
@@BasicGemini read my other comment
L comment broski, stop trying to project what you think as “what the people want”. Goofy aah you know for a fact that ain’t no one is gonna agree with your opinion either way so what’s the point man. Stop typing as if you’re high council.
bitch no bro??? bro its not cool to be disrespectful to people lmfao that just make you a jobless and hoeless mf
Bunch of simps that donate their whole paycheck to her, because her AI is anime and viewers hope for a tease lol
At least its going to charity 🙄
Better to watch a person operation an ai then looking at light yagami and his edits ngl
As suppsed to donating your money to a 🥷🏿 who screams all tbe time
Both clown behaviour, never give streamers your moneh ever
Keep crying, fuck face 😂
No hate I just don’t get it. Her voice is annoying, there’s no realism to it. No real life elements just like watching cartoons. Honestly believe incels only watch her. Speaks a lot to how many there are
Sounds like hate
just like not many people like kai cenat, his contrbution to brain rot kinda huge
@@tuanriccy1026 but many people do. And you can understand why, and understand the fan base. With iron mouse. Not so much
@@raph11223344brother i work IT and there’s a coworker st my job who’s a vtuber (same thing iron mouse is) he’s just a weird super nerdy guy . super nice but i don’t get it either, its not hate just confusing how people enjoy this.
@@spectre8469 its not a different format than a normal streaming. you just have a avatar instead a face and if the streamer is good its just entertaining to listen to in the background.
Ngl iron Ouse only won bc peopling just staring at that anime character and ofc subbing it’s just wierd🙏🙏🙏
or maybe cause she got a chronic condition that makes it hard for her to just walk and yet she still streams for her fans while being hooked up on a machine💀
Fully Agreed 👍
@@StaySolidSavytwo things can be true
@@NPC-j1iSecond thing is a fact.
@@StaySolidSavybro no one is watching for that
yeah the stream where shes sleaping
Yk how sunbathons work right?
Cs it's important I know that you do?
it's a subathon. it goes until the counter ends. do you expect her to stay awake for the whole month?
Oh even the stream where she lets her entire fanbase goon to her, such loser’s 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵
@@Pharospig2443 whats more loser behaviour is ganging up on a bedridden patient, kid, i wish your father and mother seen you and your internet activity
I hate iron mouse
2/10 ragebait
And u hate you
Yeah being a loser definitely helps with that
W
Womp womp
lmao who tf is ironmouse
who tf are you
the biggest streamer on all of twitch
one of if not the biggest supporter of the immune deficiency foundation
a latina woman who started streaming becaus she wanted to make friends
who tf are you
Lmao who tf is you
Idk who the fuck are you supposed to be.
Who tf are you? Oh! Just a worthless Hater