Black Desert Combat System Rework & Mounted Combat is DEAD!!
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
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00:00 Class Change Overview
01:34 Skill Hits
02:06 Accuracy Rate
03:03 Evasion
03:33 Damage Reduction
04:15 Superarmor
05:10 PVP Damage Reduction
05:24 Mounted Combat
05:47 Other Changes
06:28 Outro
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Love the infographic format, doing Lord's work as always
Thank you! I'll keep doing them if people like it
@@AndersGallar Is there anyway to download your graphic with good resolution? Most of them would look lovely as wallpaper and I love Ranger
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@@AndersGallar really awesome stuff & suuuuper useful for when huge changes like these are coming. much appreciate this format! :D
Me too.
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Just found you today and I really love your voice haha! Your Videos are insanly good, on point and showed well with graphics and skill pics!!! Loving it!! Big thanks for the update aswell!!!
Nice job in the infographic of the overall changes Anders, well done as always
loved the new format, Its even easier to understand than usual which already easy enough to understand, Thanks for your work Anders! Keep it up!
Hey Anders, thanks for the amazing video as always!
Best edit, content video always
why is this video such high quality production lol? :D good work mate.
Anders, i have to say. Your UI & blog design skills have greatly improved!
I knew staying subbed to you even though I stopped playing Black Desert was a good idea.
Thank you so much for the updates and always telling us the good stuff know.
Yo what is this new layout on the videos?! Really digging it. Thanks again for the info Anders keep it up
Looks, promising. Excited for the new class.
PA should hire you. Amazing work.
I hope the mounted combat comes back with awkaening and succession variants
Love the hashashin buffs...well c
i wanna see Kunoichi awakening with that combat skill changes :)
btw the hit rate for hash is the same in both glabs updates, it's just now you don't need to prebuff to get it some
Dread about sums it up for me.
what happend to the ability to change our blackstar weapon glow? thought we were getting it months ago? i remember the teaser but now i cant find the video for it anymore XD
Hm, i feel like the current combat system is probably the best on the market so i wander what can they really do to make it even better. Hopefully it doesn't become worse though, that would suck. Also, got to wander how is this going to affect gearing as well, hopefully we don't have to change too much of our current setup outside of maybe different crystals
Finally DR is getting some love and classes being balanced on a deeper level
I'm thinking some classes won't feel the same after the change but will see if its a good thing or not with time
Nothing will feel the same and if it goes live in its current state it's definitely going to be a shit show for a while. Valks were tanky before but on lab they were straight up immortal regardless of how much AP you stack. The arbitrary decision of which classes get DR on their SA also makes no sense to me.
@@EmpyreanDreamer idk but imo classes that were already tanky shouldn't have gotten the extra Dr in sa.
@@JayScottee Agreed and if any DR buffs were gonna happen the tanky classes should've gotten nerfed first, especially valk.
@@EmpyreanDreamer Thats only true if PA doesn't want them to be that tanky by design.
@@Boonedale PA doesn't know anything. I would love to ask them why valk gets to be borderline immortal and still do as much, if not more damage than a lot of classes who get 1 tapped by everything no matter how much gear you get. The old devs had an idea what they wanted. Hell they were reluctant to buff ranger for a VERY long time because they clearly felt range shouldnt be that strong or protected (which was the correct way of looking at it btw). These days thats out the window, no weaknesses on anyone, little to no punishable gaps and totally random who gets to be tanky for free.
The game is just a huge gearcheck at this point and the most skillful decision you can make is choosing the "correct" class aka one which has insane scaling and utility like valk with zero damage penalty.
What is the Total Dp Table? It shows it all the way up to 699. Are they reworking ap/dp as well? Current max Dp is only think 450.
So many fundamental changes to the numbers. I hope extensive testing was done before pushing these out.
That's what Korea is for ;)
@@serenity1490 PA only listens to Korean players anyway.
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Considering jae and other devs plays their own game, but also have been proven to not understand even very basic pvp or pve knowledge about the game during interviews... even if they did test it. I doubt it would matter. Most the people at PA who play are really not that good at the game. :/ Yoshi-P, jae is not saddly.
@@SeralthSparro Wasn't Jae or one of the other devs the reason why they where talking about adding hit indicators to cannons in NW/Siege because they tried it once but didn't understand how cannon/flex teams work for hitting shit?
Odd decision to give certain classes more Damage reduction while in SA ……
i wanna note the jump from 261 dr. to 421...is insane. there is no middle man there. lol
For what is worth I also noticed ~mid chart a jump from +8 to +83 (or something)... That a typo or something? I mean... Pre 420 DP (and I assume that is actually just the DP stat in the Stat menu, not the on toolbar DP, which is still hard to reach on non DP focused build and/or without II everything DG.) you get the literal equivalent of nothing in comparison to post that break point. That is not linear scaling that is "break point gaming". Like back in D2... pre some % Faster Cast speed =... you are an average lightning nova sorceress... on that % and higher... you are than playing your class. I, however, cannot tell which is "better"... Because when you grow in linear... you barely feel the difference @ any point. But with the "break point" or "magic number" once you become aware at where it is placed (usually at hard to reach place)... and after your struggle for it is over (one way or another, because you are fully aware you are a lot less powered or underpowered than you could be "with it"... of that all your efforts feel completely meaningless and as if they will never come to fruition) the power spike hit reflected in the (at least at first) dopamine sector during gaming is ~very nice... And of course humans like "very nice" and if the build (and or game) offers a few "hits" like that that you are aware of... you end up perusing them... While in the mean time linear mathematical growth by a factor of not ~roughly 10+ times... idk maybe not as exciting... But think about it that way... if both reach one and the same end point anyone and one of them is very nerve wrecking to the point you may never reach the end point (because linear growth as boring as it is... well because you are not really as underpowered as with break points pre "break point"... is much more likely to go the entire way... Or to put in actual numbers, if those shown are not wrong... pre that 83 you could and ~maybe should have been already working with around +76 rather than with +8... and than suddenly +83... the jump from like 76 to + 83 certainly wouldn`t be as exciting as from 8 to 83, if we assume any DP jump is exciting, but what also is true you will not have to achieve already hard overall DP point with less DP than you could have been doing it with. So there are those things, me thinks.
About time evasion get nerfed those people had BDO on easy mode for so long.
ever since i started playing bdo all the way back when costume cost only 19m in market, i just wanted a mounted lancia combat and what do we got now
I wish they change your main stance to Succession as an upgrade from main stance. Thus only Succession and Awakening is the main stances. You take a quest to move from Main stance to Succession permanently when you level 60.
well what im questioning is, is it a buff for the maegu or a nerf, because all say she has less accuracy then others, so now all kinda same right? so i think its a buff?
PVP needs a drastic change. I'm glad PA agrees. Maybe the dead KR PVP scene had something to do with it. History always repeats itself.
Evasion is DR but with extra steps
I see this way, evasion is for classes that have less SA and more s and forward guard abilities for protection. But yeah, I dont think full evasion is the route anymore, its probably gonna be a hybrid of both dr and eva thats gonna be the meta now.
Hey Anders can I have the link for picture at 6:12?
imgur.com/a/kHqZV5P
Aw dang, I loved mounted combat for running through mobs.
so does this buff or nerf Nova?
When new class skill showcase?
Embers can be sell on market???? HALLELUYAH!!!
I feel like the combat is a reason why we don't really have some cool PVE content, I know PvP is the main focus of this game (though really?), but as someone who has mid-range pc and doesn't want to play on potato graphics I usually can't even join PvP content since I'd be a massive hindrance, at the same time I probably get why is some good PVE content so hard to implement since you can just i-frame everything and have protected skills etc.
The dr reduction on slow classes is kinda fine, I can see that on succ nova/guardian/witch, but totally not strikers/mystic/valk/zerk.Its just dumb and unnecessary.
And talking about acc/eva, perfect, will make the game more easy to balance!
at this point i'm willing to bet someone's son plays as striker, no other reason for that class to exist as it is for so long, and still getting buffs
yes give awk corsairs ability to shoot while on horse.
Wait new class? I havent hears anything about this is there someplace i can get info about the new class?
Previous Heidel Ball.
New male class is confirmed coming. Gunslinger class after that. I'll be making a predictions video next week so I'll go over more details then!
Isn't DR just better now, even for classes like Striker/Mystic? Evasion reduces damage sometimes, but DR will always reduce damage
i think they will probably stack, dont?
first the game will consider your evasion to reduce incoming damage by a %, then dr will reduce the resulting number in a flat amount
if it is this way, new builds should probably reflect some balance of evasion and dr
Higher rates of evasion will reduce incoming damage from low accuracy sources. Higher rates of DR will reduce incoming damage from high amounts of AP. No matter which gear set you equip, you will have a mix of both evasion and DR stats. You do not lose the effectiveness of one stat by equipping gear of the other stat. Which defensive stat you will prioritize will depend on the people who are attacking you.
hard to tell until live but evasion probly still be the route for lot of class. it double dips, easier to stack since more flexible options, still requires high acc to counter effectively. also, evasion fallen god gloves are getting the same acc as dr gloves so there is no loss running them anymore.
Huh. So evasion will not be oppresive anymore. Does that mean Dr and Evasion are essentially going to be working the same way?
Hmm.... They should reword "evasion" to "damage reduction" for clarity 🤔
nobody is gonna take note of a idea from a guy who has anime pfp
@@legendary9842as if fortnite is any better.
@@legendary9842 Toxic.
@@kizurisan8660 and?
@@legendary9842chill.
When's Heidel Ball?
Still backwards. Let people decide if they want to be evasion or DR. Stupid as hell that you get punished for tagging a certain class.
whats the point then in eva? go dr and thats all
So with the evasion nerf. What is striker going to do?
Striker DR is fcking strong now.. Legit unkillable in SA skills and u have so much healing sustain ur basically immortal. 😎
DR striker is the way now.
Them giving up on mounted combat is disappointing, Woosa's mounted combat was particularly useful for quickly clearing low level enemies.
meanwhile i'm probably still stuck in tukey region even though im in south east asia XD
How about add damage numbers like every single other MMO.....seeing CRITICAL spam all over the screen was a better choice though right? 🙄
J PLEASE! Would make getting those .5% gains worth it I swear.
add it ONLY in a spefic test zone like BA with all types of mobs too. Like PvE BA version if you will.
Else, hell no. Critical / Back / Down attack IS the important info here. There is absolutly no point to see numbers (outside of meantioned test zones). What do you gain to see the exact same numbers x3-6 or as it used to be x8-50 at 3 times per second?
@@SoukenIDK Its toggleable in every other game - your con is largely moot, because if YOU don't like it - you can toggle it off and see what you like while OTHER players can see the info they like.
There's no reason, other than for intended lack of clarity and transparency, for them not to exist. They do in fact, exist - but are disabled for us; they've accidentally streamed with them active before and they're available on Mobile.
@@lifescaption fair point, actually didnt think about that a toggle is a option to be honest.
Still honestly dont see a reason to see them outside of testing purposes tho.
Lets be honest, its BDO, there arent any "skill builds" to switch or a million tiny pieces to min max with.
Its basicy a single number within a very tiny tolerance for each skill over and over per mob you hit.
But yes, i guess thats mostly just a personal thing.
@@SoukenIDK for exactly the reason you mention - and for on the fly data.
Not everywhere functions like BA, so to have a singular testing zone wouldn't be 'best', albeit quite nice. Look at the various degrees of capped content; it would be nice to directly see at each Tier of Node War, in uncapped scenarios, when encountering a new class, as different buffs impact gameplay, etc - a lot of which you're just not going to encounter in a test tube or cannot be replicated for those reasons. It's just QoL and ease of use honestly. If we're also being honest, do we really think the average or even any large number of players are going to go to this test zone and try to do much of any of that? Your average player *at best* will test their PvE, and even that has variables and caps, etc.
There's also quite a bit of variance between positioning, addons, and combos - as well, not to mention consumables/crystals, mob type, etc. Due to both gear and these or other factors, although also effort, that's why there's such a wide variance in PvE loot (loot buffs too, etc., ofc - not neglecting that ) even when comparing the same class, spec, or similar gear.
the dead corpse is rotting away thats all info i got here
Cool now everyone will be DR user
The day they actually improve the gear upgrading system is when I will come back and play again forever.
They kinda did,it's probably best you quit cause you're honestly just gonna keep complaining.
They have improved the upgrading in the game
@@sethterwilliger9434 yeah i know what they did. they only did the small improvement. I want it legit fixed. It still ass and not acceptable.
@@progz5232 then I guess bdo isn’t for you
Buy gear off of market? @@progz5232
I love how they keep shaking things up for better or worse. It's a huge risk, but it shows they're willing to take the risk, hopefully out of pride. Their software architecture must be malleable enough to be able to make such large changes. That's not an easy thing to maintain considering their code base is probably on the larger end compared to other games.
These arnt big changes as far as coding is concerned this in its entireity is basically just a bunch of xml changes this is about as not risky as you can really get while still making changes. The planning and meetings easily took longer then actually doing these changes hell you could make all these changes in a afternoon. BDO code wise is also extremely small and simple. Even compared to older games like dragons nest, ragnarok online, or maple story. BDO like many other games have had their server binaries as well as source leaks over the years and bdo is... tiny... The game is absolutely insanely simplistic all things considered. Very few complex script or systems really with almost anything remotely close to complex being rather new.
BDO is a "big" game to the end user but thats entirely due to copy paste more then anything. It feels big cause theres lots of the exact same things everywhere. Functionally everyclass, mob, quest, npc, even the orginal life skills, ect are just copy pasted with minor edits in the vast majority of cases. PA didn't have much money to starting out. They really streched their dev time and made the most of their limited budget and time. It shows a lot, but its also rather impressive how far they streched their assets with out it all feeling samey to the end user.
But this is why BDO lacks many complex systems and it takes them so long to add new things. Because the core is so barebones, they have to built anything actually new from the ground up, while they can just push out simple changes like this very very quickly. The recent node war changes would have been 1000 times the effort of these skill changes. At least those would have required them rewritting/making new scripts for the node war system.
@@SeralthSparro Thanks for your really insightful comment! I'm even more impressed that their code base is tiny - I just spent the past week fixing another developer's rendering code that could've been done in a fraction of the code, yet they chose to write over a 1000 lines. In my mind, I was specifically comparing BDO to Skyrim - maybe unjustly - lol... My previous experiences have only been working on single player games at EA, so I'm sure it's more complex then what I worked on. It's a really good design to use XML config for this stuff.
Speaking about complexity though. I think what's really insane is that each dimension added to a software system, at a minimum, increases the objective complexity (i.e. Cyclomatic Complexity) of the system by a power of 2. When I think about the 27 classes, DR, Evasion, DP, AP, all the hidden properties, and then all the real world properties like animation timing, network latency, it just seems like an insane thing to try to balance. It seems like a fools journey with no end. Kind of crazy they still try to balance - I know at EA, they wouldn't keep up this kind of maintenance.
I have no idea how thr combat change will work out, but im pretty sure evasion not only got a huge nerf, its also being completly destroyed. But we will see and see the correction attempts afterwards. Implementing eva and acc in the game was a huge mistake anyway. Makes this mess of class balance even more impossible to balance. Just make dr builds. And make all buffs for pve only. Like monster ap and dp and no hp buffs or stat buffs. Because its pointless to fight someone with 10+ buffs while you have like 1-2 buffs on u. And disabling heal potions for like 60 seconds when getting hit by another player, would remove run, kite and heal tacticts and would reduce the fight to few meters instead of a footballfield. That means reducing all damages and buffing heal abilities. Which would also make a shai a very useful healer in pvp and create nom existent teamplay. But all of this wont happen and is just dreaming.
afk mobs are now 'hologram' afk mobs
its over for wushi
It should have been global!! NAAAAAAAUUURRRR!!!!!
they completely fcked up Q cancel for awakening warriors
Seems like they want eva players to benefit on their excess dp stat and call it "grazed". Well see when it goes live.
the music in your video is very distracting. please remove the music, thank you.
Nice video btw.
bruuuuhhh mounted combat removal ._. not cool
hit reduction is tamer nerf imo T^T
FIRST
Better
So now evasion is just DR!
W,W+F,Shift+E,Shift+F...
I'm fed up with this "combo" system after 4k hours :/
lowkey id come back and play if they just added damage numbers i like seeing the amounts of damage im doing and tracking it and actually feeling my progression opposed too just playing and hitting things and seeing a health bar slowly drop
All I want is key rebind/some kind of macro
Respectfully a lot easier and cleaner than chris whatever
1:32 they could not have made that text any shorter? Like "eva is no more it is dr now". Idiotic change
PA has no idea wtf they are doing
sadge soul
Mounted combat was always neglected in BDO.
so evasions DR now lol
So aggravating... that they don't release this change globally for EVERYONEs input and not just 1 region, so close the the Ball, & so close to the Season start.
Such a mess.
they never learn
I hope when they reintroduce mounted combat it makes more sense and uses either the main or awakening weapon, depending on what is more logical. It never made sense for example to have Valk fight with the sword on horseback, when she has a lance. That basically applies to all classes that have awakening polearm weapons too.
succ nova rework
nice changes, but why the hell striker gets the 25% reduction on damage while super armor? been out of the game for a while, but isnt striker like the strongest pvp class? why give a class with that kind of mobility, damage, and grapples, the highest dmg reduction out of any other class?????
Well when they change stacks and there whole enchanting system. I will come back then.
sorc sucks now with that SA reduction.
PA not knowing what they are doing about stuff I'm so shocked
I just want cross progression....
im dreading this is gonna wreck BDO totally, they've done combat overhauls in games before and after that the game died. After this disastrous NW overhaul, now they are coming with damage overhaul and I'm afraid Jae is just pumping out content without knowing the consequences.
Calm down doomer. Change can be good. Let's just wait and see how it actually plays and then we can all complain. They will eventually find something that works.
@@chielzzmew Doomer kekw, and you're a Jae shill then? =) Change can be good, change can also be bad, also depending on your preferences. I'm not for any of the late changes PA has done, they changed the fundementals of the game into some semi instanced PvE grind fiesta from what was once a PvP haven. And the world doesn't end if the game goes to shreds, im all good homie.
NOOOO Mounted combat was my favorite thing about the game :|
Let's hope they actually bring it back and not just trash it forever...
they need to stop giving KR the patch first to play test especially PVP, they are by FAR the worst PVP region in the world, even pve players in other regions can beat their best to offer easily, the test should be released globally and other regions opinion need to be valued more on balance
Not sure what point there is in having DR and EVA now just remove one or the other usless devs bro I swear.
Now - you want both.
The eva will cut your damage to 10%, which is then mitigated by the DR.
Unpopular opinion, but this sounds better - at least if it gets properly fleshed out, but I'll also say even running it I've never been a resistance/evasion fan.
At these point they just throwing random numbers and hopes its works 😂
F bdo the screw over console every time. Good bye I quit bdo
Yep, just like their crappy new nodewar system.. I already have a feeling this new combat system rework they are trying to cook up is gonna fail hard.. RIP BDO 10 years. 😂💀
Removing mounted combat too. Trade - removed, sailing - dead - mounted combat - removed, total item count - halved, life skilling - simplifed to absurdity.
Coming from someone who has played since day 1, it's getting to that point that I may hang up the gloves. The past 2-3 years of changes have just been terrible, it's making the game mundane, boring and somehow even more bottle-necking it into certain activities. It feels like they brought in new devs that don't know what the fuck they are doing, so are just removing or simplifying things so their little pea brains can fathom it.
And that is all before mentioned the fact that the new evasion system just acts as a damage reduction system. Like, literal damage reduction, not avoidance lol.
Very, very sad times.
I think removing items/complexity it fine, as lon as there are enough options for people to use. Just having one tool across your characters sounds good to me, at the end it is only a question if all life skills are viable/balanced.
I agree that removing systems is not ideal, but maybe they were not used much, so instead of balancing them going forward, they just remove those to focus on other stuff. I never traded, sailed or used mounted combat
@@Chris3s The new stuff they focus on: simplifying everything else. I had the same mindset the first couple of times, but it's getting ridiculous now. The new changes subtract the fun of things.
Nodes with CP investment is bare-bones at this point, where as before it had complexity and was a bit through-provoking.
It deffo seems they are dumbing everything down to the point that it caters to a more modern audience. I mean let's be real here too many complaints on accepting a Garmoth quest so they had to automate it. That's something special
They've removing the sailing?
@@NightmareOni yea at the end it depends on how they handle it. The garmoth quest thing was a strange game problem solution though, having most things be auto-pickup is just QoL that most people want nowadays. With their pet system though they can't do that since it would invalidate those
They're changing the game for people has 2 brain cells and 10 mins/day for gaming. And they obviously can't take any bit of loss so PA kill PvP as well.
It's a trend in gaming world in recent years.
So sad...
So dumb they treat KR as Test server. They do not even PVP
The PvP is anyway dead so who really cares? Most of it is restricted or gear capped. There is really no something that will change dramatically. Also open world is non existent so it really matters little I would say. Most ppl sit in Marni and that’s it
i think this game is dead ... no players