The most pragmatic and rational speech delivered this evening. Yes, lets be rational instead of speaking about ethics that sound pleasant to the ears but are hard to implement.
He said what Russians and Russian government truly think about all that (Ukraine, Georgia, etc) obstacles. And he has shown the most executable way of how politics have to be done. Applause and my respect, Sir
Your revanchism with Russia is a polish thing, why would we in the west share the same opinion as you? As a matter of fact, if it wasn’t Russia it would be the Polish state that would be a thorn on our eastern flank.
@@yasserbencheikh2626 ckearly you have zero experience of Russian occupation and exploitation,in Ukraine's case for 280 of the past 300 years in Poland's case 250 of the past 300 years. Your comment is all too clearly an arrogant racism of the type exemplified by Fascists and Nazis.
@@michaelmazowiecki9195during that period most countries were occupied and exploited including India, china etc and the occupation was mainly from western countries. Try dealing with the log in your eye first before noticing the spec in Russian eyes
@@felipe-vibor I have those imperialistic aggressive Russian Empire builders 200km from where I and my ancestors have lived. Russian murderous aggression is nothing new to us, we have been suffering for the past 500 years from it. So stop whitewashing the Russian point of view.
It is clear that the process of NATO's extension has no relationship with NATO itself to modernise or ensure security in Europe. On the contrary, this is a provocative factor that reduces the level of mutual trust. Now we have the right to ask: who is this extension against? And what happened to these insurance companies that gave us western partners after the Warsaw Treaty was broken? Where are these explanations now? You don't even remember them anymore. But I let myself remember what was said at this Conference. In Brussels on 17 May 1990, the Secretary General of NATO, Mr. Wörner, I would like to quote an offer on 17 May 1990. At the time, "The NATO Armed Forces already provide solid security guarantees for the Soviet Union, where we are ready for the station behind the FRG's borders." Where are these guarantees? " Wladimir Putin-Munich-2007
USSR imposed puppet dictatorships on the countries of Eastern Europe. Hungary in 1956 and Czechislovakia in 1968 show what happened if any of the puppet states risked deviating from Soviet control. The Warsaw Pact was the Soviet Union and the satellite states it controled in Eastern Europe. Once the Eastern European countries gained their freedom, they wanted nothing to do with the Warsaw Pact. Russia did create the CSTO in the aftermath and the newly free countries of Eastern Europe wanted nothing to do with it. On the other side, those Eastern European countries were desperate to get into NATO. Because NATO membership and the Article 5 guarantee was the strongest possible guarantee against being invaded and occupied by Russia again. Russia's invasion of Ukraine has proven how wise it was for the likes of Estonia and Poland to have obtained Nato protection. Ukraine would have loved to have had that Article 5 protection but there was no prospect of that happening. Nato memberships requires unanimous approval and Ukraine would never get that.
Fantastic and thoughtful speech.
The most pragmatic and rational speech delivered this evening. Yes, lets be rational instead of speaking about ethics that sound pleasant to the ears but are hard to implement.
That was the best speech of this session...
He said what Russians and Russian government truly think about all that (Ukraine, Georgia, etc) obstacles. And he has shown the most executable way of how politics have to be done.
Applause and my respect, Sir
YOU , sir have my respect.
Very good. Pragmatic.
Dewillough Pragmatic... best way to describe his stance.
I had to leave at 8:52 when the dude starts twiddling his hair.
yeah, that was pretty homosexual of him
albi55uk shut up
OxfordUnion, post your debates as one video, people will unsubscribe if you spam their subscrription feed like this
Well done speech! Always thinking in peace among nations. Russian is a friendly nation.
Lol
Wonderful Russian apologist and appeaser. But then he stands several thousand km away from the western border of Russia.
Your revanchism with Russia is a polish thing, why would we in the west share the same opinion as you? As a matter of fact, if it wasn’t Russia it would be the Polish state that would be a thorn on our eastern flank.
@@yasserbencheikh2626 ckearly you have zero experience of Russian occupation and exploitation,in Ukraine's case for 280 of the past 300 years in Poland's case 250 of the past 300 years. Your comment is all too clearly an arrogant racism of the type exemplified by Fascists and Nazis.
@@michaelmazowiecki9195during that period most countries were occupied and exploited including India, china etc and the occupation was mainly from western countries. Try dealing with the log in your eye first before noticing the spec in Russian eyes
@@felipe-vibor I have those imperialistic aggressive Russian Empire builders 200km from where I and my ancestors have lived. Russian murderous aggression is nothing new to us, we have been suffering for the past 500 years from it. So stop whitewashing the Russian point of view.
@@yasserbencheikh2626nonsense.
It is clear that the process of NATO's extension has no relationship
with NATO itself to modernise or ensure security in Europe. On the
contrary, this is a provocative factor that reduces the level of mutual
trust.
Now we have the right to ask: who is this extension against?
And what happened to these insurance companies that gave us western
partners after the Warsaw Treaty was broken? Where are these
explanations now? You don't even remember them anymore.
But I let myself remember what was said at this Conference.
In Brussels on 17 May 1990, the Secretary General of NATO, Mr. Wörner, I
would like to quote an offer on 17 May 1990. At the time, "The NATO
Armed Forces already provide solid security guarantees for the Soviet
Union, where we are ready for the station behind the FRG's borders."
Where are these guarantees? "
Wladimir Putin-Munich-2007
USSR imposed puppet dictatorships on the countries of Eastern Europe. Hungary in 1956 and Czechislovakia in 1968 show what happened if any of the puppet states risked deviating from Soviet control. The Warsaw Pact was the Soviet Union and the satellite states it controled in Eastern Europe. Once the Eastern European countries gained their freedom, they wanted nothing to do with the Warsaw Pact. Russia did create the CSTO in the aftermath and the newly free countries of Eastern Europe wanted nothing to do with it.
On the other side, those Eastern European countries were desperate to get into NATO. Because NATO membership and the Article 5 guarantee was the strongest possible guarantee against being invaded and occupied by Russia again. Russia's invasion of Ukraine has proven how wise it was for the likes of Estonia and Poland to have obtained Nato protection.
Ukraine would have loved to have had that Article 5 protection but there was no prospect of that happening. Nato memberships requires unanimous approval and Ukraine would never get that.
Oh dear oh dear. Sir Tony has made some very bad calls