How Fast Can You Complete a Map with a BRAND-NEW Account?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @Hbomb
    @Hbomb  2 года назад +764

    What other challenges should I do? I think next up with be an AI video

    • @TheTrueNadir
      @TheTrueNadir 2 года назад +11

      @@AquaRainfellninjas

    • @Funcrashmalej
      @Funcrashmalej 2 года назад +10

      No alchemist gameplays for every Chimps map

    • @superuniform6548
      @superuniform6548 2 года назад +17

      I would like to see your editor playing btd6

    • @Graceclaw
      @Graceclaw 2 года назад +31

      See how fast the AI black borders a map!

    • @user-nn2co1qe9j
      @user-nn2co1qe9j 2 года назад +8

      Do the same thing with a expert map

  • @MutantDestroyer
    @MutantDestroyer 2 года назад +4234

    smart move, make the speedrun rule "new account required" so no one will want to go through the trouble of setting it up and thus your record will not be beat

    • @Hbomb
      @Hbomb  2 года назад +655

      Lmao, ty

    • @jimmyjohnjoe3700
      @jimmyjohnjoe3700 2 года назад +205

      I mean true but speedrunners are always willing to put a lot of work, I don’t think it’d be that hard to set up a new account

    • @blueyandicy
      @blueyandicy 2 года назад +85

      @@jimmyjohnjoe3700 it's not, you can literally just uninstall and reinstall the game lmfao

    • @ConfusionUwU
      @ConfusionUwU 2 года назад +53

      or just make a new ninja kiwi account

    • @olimincraft
      @olimincraft 2 года назад +1

      too easy with all turets unlocked

  • @just_oliwer4581
    @just_oliwer4581 2 года назад +1257

    Imagine a mode where you start each game with zero upgrades or xp but the xp generation is boosted 10x times and you either go for furthest round or fastest time

  • @genericre
    @genericre 2 года назад +833

    Wait until he realizes that you can leave the tutorial at round 3

  • @interndoug3513
    @interndoug3513 2 года назад +891

    The most underplayed speed run category.
    A message from Jacksfilms:
    Edited to add:
    Oh damn my comment blew up
    Thanks for all the likes!!!!! :D

    • @Hbomb
      @Hbomb  2 года назад +108

      Lmao

    • @Infernosc
      @Infernosc 2 года назад +7

      risseY

    • @peepeepoopoo1826
      @peepeepoopoo1826 2 года назад +25

      probably because you have to make a new acc every run

    • @4deemi
      @4deemi 2 года назад +4

      @@peepeepoopoo1826 is there no way to reset an account?

    • @peepeepoopoo1826
      @peepeepoopoo1826 2 года назад +19

      @@4deemi not that i know of no. you could just never save the progress made on the new account and relog in so guess that’s a faster alternative. still takes some to do though

  • @ulrichwarthen
    @ulrichwarthen 2 года назад +171

    This is random but I think the run's timer would've been more accurate if you started it when you hit "play" on the BTD6 title screen instead of Steam's library play button, since everyone's PC can launch games at different speeds at different times n such

    • @Meese12
      @Meese12 2 года назад +34

      Map loading times can also vary a lot between computers and you load a map over 10 times in this run, so that's a bigger problem than the steam loading time would ever be.

    • @umcThunder72
      @umcThunder72 Год назад +9

      @@Meese12 run timers are mostly for show. A moderator will clip any time that isn't meant to be counted and add time that wasn't

    • @umcThunder72
      @umcThunder72 Год назад +3

      @@Meese12 well they do serve the purpose of giving moderators a reference for how much time has passed from the start of a cut to the end so they can adjust the run time accordingly

  • @vinizaina7817
    @vinizaina7817 Год назад +53

    This video is top-tier. It's straight to the point, the narration is good and the edits are on point. Well done!

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 2 года назад +192

    This is a really cool run idea if optimized to instakill. Because most of the fastest towers are tier fives so you need to play out your towers multiple games in advance.

    • @jamesleon5235
      @jamesleon5235 2 года назад +8

      And it may be more useful to play a tougher map to level up to those t5s faster

    • @dreamsdicc1817
      @dreamsdicc1817 Год назад +7

      @@jamesleon5235 cant do that until you beat a beginner map at least once

  • @meese4432
    @meese4432 2 года назад +79

    I love these longer Hbomb videos! I hope you do longer videos, more of you is better! Have a good day!😃

    • @Hbomb
      @Hbomb  2 года назад +13

      Thanks! They're fun to make too

    • @snakeixirTM
      @snakeixirTM 2 года назад +1

      Try watching the 9hr bloonstuber battles tourney

  • @bundzsi
    @bundzsi 2 года назад +44

    Thank you Hbomb for popping the bloons fast

    • @Feyeball
      @Feyeball 2 года назад +7

      This is not an ISAB video

    • @bundzsi
      @bundzsi 2 года назад +6

      @@Feyeball Indeed it isn't, although it's Bloons content, and haven't really been done before

    • @Feyeball
      @Feyeball 2 года назад +1

      @@bundzsi These comments are a meme related to ISAB content, not Bloons content. Also, you could've just done that on an ISAB video and get way more likes, if that's the reason you wrote this

    • @martinshoosterman
      @martinshoosterman 2 года назад +3

      @@Feyeball There is nothing illegal about taking the meme to other bloons RUclipsrs.

  • @pc12113
    @pc12113 2 года назад +82

    Quincy: Nothing gets past my bow!
    HBomb: We unlocked Gwendolin then I instantly equipped her
    Quincy: You heard that I said nothing, right? 😢

  • @joshuagraham5750
    @joshuagraham5750 2 года назад +12

    I just beat MM impoppable, this was a very useful guide. Thanks.

  • @AYAYA_s
    @AYAYA_s 2 года назад +47

    you can get an even faster time if you cancel the totourial on round 4 or so

  • @Stickman_youtube142
    @Stickman_youtube142 9 месяцев назад +20

    0:01 smacky daddy 💀

  • @superbaas8822
    @superbaas8822 2 года назад +102

    A big way to optimize this would also involve selling towers that reached all required upgrades to sell them so they can give exp to towers that really need them.
    Specifically Glaives is an amazing speedrun tower because it can control mass waves and is easy to unlock. It's also relatively cheap, letting you push exp onto other towers.
    PS: The 2-3-0 Tack is super easy to unlock and is an absolute speedrun boss, and feeds exp into the 2-0-4

    • @1TieDye1
      @1TieDye1 2 года назад +7

      I think this could also be optimized by reducing the number of towers leveled. Focusing on as few towers as possible seems most efficient to me, like choosing towers that fill multiple rolls. Boomer is good early game and great moab support, same with tack. Ace or heli is strong late game, have global ramge, and a good solve for military only along with a hero for early game. Obyn+ninja+alch solves abr and magic only, while alch is literally always good. This is a really fun speed run idea. If only there was an efficient way to make new accounts.. a mod would be good

  • @BlacephalonSupremacy
    @BlacephalonSupremacy 2 года назад +16

    Literally SECONDS after it was released, can’t wait to watch this!

  • @VitaEmerald324
    @VitaEmerald324 2 года назад +5

    Low-key contains one of the best Apopalypse guides, at least for the Beginner maps

  • @Sythll
    @Sythll 2 года назад +7

    During my last week of school where we did absolutely nothing in every class I downloaded btd6 on my laptop and started a new account, I thought of doing a challenge like this but instead I max upgraded every tower and it was fun, especially since I only played on hard and never the same map, and actually came a bit close with the true sun god and the glue gunner.

  • @Zeldrake
    @Zeldrake 2 года назад +6

    after playing battles 2 I can't comprehend getting upgrades this fast

  • @CreepyKewlDude
    @CreepyKewlDude Год назад +2

    19:30 “Sell Obyn I will donate” is on CHIMPS

  • @Dxvdd_Editz
    @Dxvdd_Editz Год назад +4

    me using this as a tutorial for monkey meadow black border

  • @Zinaida7224
    @Zinaida7224 Год назад

    This is a great tip for me being the start of a new account, this is amazing! 6th place is actually great and you deserved it!

  • @CalamitasCalliope
    @CalamitasCalliope 2 года назад +15

    One thing I've been really curious about is how long it would take to unlock all the base stuff from a blank profile. By basic stuff I'm meaning, having access to all maps, all base form heroes(skins aren't needed), all monkey knowledge, and all upgrades for all monkeys
    Obviously that would be a much longer run, but it's something I'm really curious about

    • @VitaEmerald324
      @VitaEmerald324 2 года назад +14

      All monkey knowledge is the worst one because I believe there is currently exactly enough to max out between regular player levels (not veteran levels, idek if those give MK points) and achievements, and two MK points are tied to rather harsh goals (sub-5-minutes on a race and Sapper, the grindiest achievement in the game).

    • @julienbronsch5039
      @julienbronsch5039 2 года назад +6

      I have a question to all MK. Do you need to collect all books or just have every MK unlocked?
      You will have 5 MK books over, even when having every single Knowledge. Also, getting some of them is pure pain, since there are sime achievements that give MKs. Sapper and one of the two 365 days achievements (forgot which one of them)

    • @julienbronsch5039
      @julienbronsch5039 2 года назад

      @@VitaEmerald324 Veteran levels dont give any MK. I am Veteran 3 and the last one I have gotten is from reaching lvl.155 (but I am still missing 2 from achievments)

    • @CalamitasCalliope
      @CalamitasCalliope 2 года назад +1

      @@julienbronsch5039 I was thinking just getting the entire monkey knowledge trees filled out

    • @julienbronsch5039
      @julienbronsch5039 2 года назад +2

      @@CalamitasCalliope oh. Ok
      Maybe, but youd still have to grind for at least 150, which would mean getting at least 120million and 1k XP

  • @Manu_mitt
    @Manu_mitt 3 дня назад +1

    Wizard monkey 3-2-0 is sooooo underrated early game

  • @aswe106
    @aswe106 2 года назад +2

    Love the cult of the lamb music in the background.

  • @YouTube-TheEmeraldSong
    @YouTube-TheEmeraldSong 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hbomb: “our time is a little over 2 hours and 35 minutes” me who still hasn’t blackboarded monkey meadow after 3 months: 👁️👄👁️

  • @TheRogurt
    @TheRogurt 2 года назад +2

    This was a really good idea for a video, now I wanna see how fast people can optimize it 🤔

    • @Hbomb
      @Hbomb  2 года назад

      Thanks! Idk how many people will try it though as you need a fresh account

    • @Void1468
      @Void1468 3 месяца назад

      WAIT I WATCH YOUR VIDEOS
      ESPECIALLY THE INTRUDER ONES.

  • @PineappleDealer37
    @PineappleDealer37 2 года назад +2

    You should hit start when the game finishes loading or do not count the loading times in the full run time. We don't want hardware differences to affect the final score.

  • @MrGodGamerYT
    @MrGodGamerYT 6 месяцев назад +1

    well um sometimes you didn't show what you did but cuz of you I ALSO BEAT EVERYTHING TYSM!

  • @-Jkrsz-
    @-Jkrsz- 2 года назад +6

    Bro I remember doing my first chimps and getting the unstable concoction bcz I miss clicked and it was soo good lmao

  • @Graydog801
    @Graydog801 Год назад +1

    when you introduce your friend to a game and he turns out to be better than you

  • @Ukenburger
    @Ukenburger 2 года назад +7

    The biggest optimization I can see for this is to use Monkey Money to purchase some powers, such as Camo Traps, Moab Mines, and Cash Drops. Modes such as Apopalypse and Half Cash start up much faster when powers are incorporated.

    • @mrbob5459
      @mrbob5459 2 года назад

      he said he wasn't going to use powers

    • @Ukenburger
      @Ukenburger 2 года назад +1

      After another viewing of this that is true. It is buried in the middle of the video around 6:30 that a statement is made of "Because we aren't running any monkey knowledge or using powers, I was not able to start with Obyn".

  • @theblaze89miller
    @theblaze89miller Год назад

    This is amazing! I love how you sound like one of those free mobile game ads that are like: “I started with the orcs…” or something like that.

  • @OrbitTK
    @OrbitTK 2 года назад +2

    I love BTD Speedruns

  • @Max_Rebo7
    @Max_Rebo7 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you! I'm a new player and you helped me get my first black border!👍

  • @sword_pro_8
    @sword_pro_8 2 года назад +4

    "What would impoppable be without farming?"
    Me: CHIMPS💀💀💀

  • @FenchBaget
    @FenchBaget Месяц назад +1

    2:23 nuh-uh its quincy

  • @user-sq2bz2fq3nf
    @user-sq2bz2fq3nf 2 года назад +4

    14:33 upgrade the druid to 130 to pop lead

    • @leo-um3pj
      @leo-um3pj 2 года назад +4

      the obyn can pop lead , waste of money

  • @fuzzy-yt
    @fuzzy-yt 2 года назад +9

    You shouldn’t have done monkey meadows, since the trees at the beginning actually block like of sight

    • @Hbomb
      @Hbomb  2 года назад +7

      Yeah. I should've done a map with water near the beginning too. Subs and Boats would've been nice

  • @blobfishgang8774
    @blobfishgang8774 Год назад +1

    Imagine just being a Bloon just wanting to have a nice time at a map but you just get popped

  • @PROBTD
    @PROBTD 2 года назад +10

    You actually earn tower experience based off the amount spent, so placing tons of weak ones for experience is kinda redundant

    • @NoOne-yv2ei
      @NoOne-yv2ei 2 года назад

      Well its not if they’re the majority of the money spent

    • @MrLych
      @MrLych 2 года назад +1

      No it's the ratio of money spent.

    • @NoOne-yv2ei
      @NoOne-yv2ei 2 года назад

      @@MrLych yea i get what u mean
      I was dum lmao

  • @TheRealSlop
    @TheRealSlop 2 года назад

    Thanks Hbomb your first video that i watched and learned a lot thruout it

  • @pizzawarfarez
    @pizzawarfarez Год назад

    I gotta say I love the cult of the lamb music in the background it’s faint but still love it

  • @MrLych
    @MrLych 2 года назад +1

    3 of my favourite strats-
    1-Avatar of wraith + 5 poplusts + Supper brittle/Enbribttlenent
    2-Tack Zone + Stronger stim + Primary mentoring
    3-Anti bloon + Stronger stim + Overclock + Supper brittle

  • @skortyspice
    @skortyspice Год назад

    This was a really interesting video it was really cool to see what you prioritised

  • @bung_us7207
    @bung_us7207 10 дней назад

    19:33 ahhh yessss, let the friend in

  • @PandismLive
    @PandismLive Месяц назад

    For anyone interested in trying this themselves: You can log in on both a phone and computer essentially creating a savestate for the level 0 account. This will help to avoid creating a new account every time you’d like to reset.

  • @jackertheboss64
    @jackertheboss64 2 года назад +2

    I am really struggling to beat magic only on dark castle, any tips?

  • @sheilacassidy2937
    @sheilacassidy2937 9 месяцев назад

    I remember the first moab, I was so scared, now here I am beating t5 bosses

  • @oakroot2586
    @oakroot2586 2 года назад

    Do more videos like this, its so good, looked at your channel and was no more videos like this. I need more!

  • @tokilladaemon
    @tokilladaemon 2 года назад +18

    Druid of the jungle is such a beast in contested territories. If you have box of monkey plus flint tips, you can get a free druid to start plus etienne on tons of maps which ends up being a pretty free win, plus he's an absolute animal in the races

    • @itchyskinbag
      @itchyskinbag 2 года назад +1

      Box of monkey? Flint tips? What bloons are you playing

    • @344ded4
      @344ded4 Год назад +2

      @@itchyskinbag Contested territory, its a game-mode

  • @ollielingy960
    @ollielingy960 2 года назад +2

    What’s up tube and Hbomb ofc

    • @Hbomb
      @Hbomb  2 года назад

      Not much, you?

    • @ollielingy960
      @ollielingy960 2 года назад

      @@Hbomb amazing thank you for the reply

  • @sulkingseagull7747
    @sulkingseagull7747 4 месяца назад

    I think if you click or tap a 0:01 time stamp it skips the starting ad and you teleport straight to the video

  • @YahooYoutuber2048
    @YahooYoutuber2048 8 месяцев назад +2

    Why didn’t you use any super monkeys?

  • @khushboosingh8827
    @khushboosingh8827 Год назад

    1:54 ''I placed a DART at the beginning'' bro doesn't even have the patience to say dart monkey

  • @robertharris6092
    @robertharris6092 2 года назад +1

    The big thing you dont think about is he doesnt have access to the unlocked heroes. As in sauda. Which would make this so much faster and easier.

  • @revlusent4090
    @revlusent4090 2 года назад

    Welp... It cant just be me that the new joke in any type of these videos is gonna be... " Oh you need a tower, how about A DruiD Of ThE JunGlE" 14:27 that zoom in ont he druid only sold my point

  • @monke-mn8yz
    @monke-mn8yz 2 года назад +1

    That beard is looking mighty!

  • @its_jimmy2573
    @its_jimmy2573 2 года назад

    A nice long video, keep up the good work!

  • @demirimamovic6269
    @demirimamovic6269 Год назад

    Man that was good i liked it!
    But also do you think sniper should get paragon upgrade?
    Because it deserves it

  • @nightmaresans9161
    @nightmaresans9161 Год назад

    Mohb, mihb, man you are a fun btd6 RUclipsr but you're gonna kill me with these abbreviations

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 2 года назад +3

    Just theory crafting but wouldn’t doing hard modes first be faster because of the higher tower xp scaling?

    • @frew5757
      @frew5757 2 года назад +5

      He wouldn’t start with good enough towers/upgrades though

  • @ninaadkale4883
    @ninaadkale4883 Год назад

    thnx for getting me first black border on MM. Thanks and do more videos like these

  • @diamondorun887
    @diamondorun887 2 года назад

    A 21 minute vid from @Hbomb what a good day

  • @dgggran2382
    @dgggran2382 Год назад +1

    Daniel give me coffee

  • @dracolyte08
    @dracolyte08 2 года назад +2

    Who else was questioning his way of saying "druid?"

  • @Qw3rty_VR
    @Qw3rty_VR Год назад +1

    Homb is a god!!!!

  • @voidianleader9253
    @voidianleader9253 2 года назад

    Try do this, but with a boss bloo- I’m kidding.. IM KIDDING. Try do a 1 cross path challenge on a map, doing all gamemodes. If there is 1 impossible level however, you can feel free to skip it.
    How it works:
    If you unlock 1 cross path, you stay with that cross path, unless you sell it.
    Ex:
    I got a 1-0-0 dart monkey, I can only now get the top path, and the other paths are no longer usable.
    Rules:
    -Use only 1 crosspath of 1 monkey.
    -Hero’s ARE allowed
    -Any map can be chosen.
    -No Power ups
    Optional:
    -Do any boss bloon under those conditions if you want to

  • @iammrcakeuwu596
    @iammrcakeuwu596 2 года назад +2

    tack with only T4's is insane as so its a good strat for this

  • @banjo8975
    @banjo8975 2 года назад +19

    Play this at 2x speed and sounds like a mobile add

  • @MFA2000
    @MFA2000 Год назад

    For any people who like spending money on mobile games and you dont have it yet 2x cash is really great there are a few "downsides" which arent really downsides just things that would have made it better so you get double cash from bloons pops on every map and every difficulty exept chimps and boss battles also it doesent work for challenges unless the challenge specifically allows it you also get double starting cash so instead of 650 cash you start with 1300

  • @TaanishTheTitan
    @TaanishTheTitan 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks 😊, I got my first black border

  • @hatcher365
    @hatcher365 Год назад

    To be clear once round 4 or 5 hits in the tuatorial you can skip it in settings.

  • @grim728
    @grim728 Год назад

    I legit watched this video as a tutorial ty

  • @zPix3l
    @zPix3l 2 года назад

    Hbomb: 2 hours 35 minutes
    Me: 145 hours

  • @cooliobros4016
    @cooliobros4016 Год назад

    Simple solution: Do it on resort and do the easiest 2tc strat in every mode (except alternate bloon rounds)

  • @Someone-ig7we
    @Someone-ig7we 2 года назад

    3:55 is that music from cult of the lamb lol

  • @Nazaryasinkoss
    @Nazaryasinkoss 18 дней назад

    Gotta love the cult of the lamb music

  • @iwersonsch5131
    @iwersonsch5131 Год назад

    I feel like this could be even crazier if the challenge was "new account chimps" or "new account expert chimps", as you'd be gaining less experience in those

  • @dustinmwadstoes3789
    @dustinmwadstoes3789 Год назад

    starting the timer when you press play on steam was a bad idea because it takes different people a different amount of time to load the game. Also, you don’t have to do the whole tutorial to pass the beginning, you can do a few rounds then exit.

  • @Glitch2022
    @Glitch2022 10 месяцев назад

    As Hbomb once said “Druid of the jungle”

  • @eyehatebbc7980
    @eyehatebbc7980 2 года назад +2

    is that cult of the lamb background music????

  • @johnisaguy3232
    @johnisaguy3232 Год назад

    I think using powers should be allowed in this category, since you're limited at the start with monkey money anyways. It could also make it potentially faster to start with harder modes to get more monkey money.

    • @ItsJustonian
      @ItsJustonian Год назад

      I prefer it simple without powers

  • @chocolatemilkman680
    @chocolatemilkman680 2 года назад

    Hey so with the 34th update out can you make an updated survivor achievement guide (but its you're choice)

  • @wolf_vee
    @wolf_vee Год назад +1

    the map your using is a map i never beat, so i have been doing what you have been doing the whole video. I had to restart the medium map like 3 times cuz i messed up lol.

  • @itzearthly
    @itzearthly 2 года назад +1

    Hbomb: getting a black border with a new account
    Me: struggles on easy mode on intermediate maps
    (this is just a joke)

  • @nadle7459
    @nadle7459 Год назад

    I can’t believe nobody nobody has done a monkey knowledge tier list

  • @sabarathore5174
    @sabarathore5174 2 года назад

    If I tried this, the upgrade icons would be one of the things that would make want to quit SO MUCH

  • @jadynworld2428
    @jadynworld2428 Год назад

    Don't worry I think apocalypse is the hardest game mode and think they should make it a hard mode game
    Also you can fit a total of 9 tack shooters in the loops, which is a strat I use on monkey meadow

  • @margaret233
    @margaret233 Год назад

    I have a few challenge ideas: Xp Grower - medium. Only 5 monkeys (infinite monkeys but not all monkeys available) that have the least amount of tiers unlocked. 60 rounds
    Last Of Us - Hard. Only 5 monkeys can be placed. 80 rounds.
    D.A.R.T (Direct Arts of Right Tracks) - easy. The Bloons go on the best and fastest path. 40 rounds.
    Also why aren't least tiers, least monkeys, and races a thing for the regular maps?

  • @SMG9000.
    @SMG9000. Год назад

    I could not stop saying to myself "wow that's a nice beard'

  • @Tea_349
    @Tea_349 Год назад

    How do you get the 4th difficulty with the skull because hard can sometimes be too easy

  • @DigitYT
    @DigitYT 2 года назад

    19:35 but the wizard has shimmer so it doesn’t really matter 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @PiotrBarcz
    @PiotrBarcz Год назад

    Pretty cool idea!

  • @violinrat9903
    @violinrat9903 2 года назад

    Oh my. Nice job.

  • @thehornedserpent
    @thehornedserpent Год назад

    Dude, your beard is growing out majestically

  • @krimson5736
    @krimson5736 2 года назад +1

    Hi hbomb I really love your content you are the second best btd RUclipsr in my opinion and I have I question for you considering that you know *ALOT* about the game and lore Q : if you use one tower for chimps well it still counts to the 2TC achievement or not

    • @jongaoliva9714
      @jongaoliva9714 2 года назад

      🤓

    • @krimson5736
      @krimson5736 2 года назад

      @@jongaoliva9714 yeah I'm a nerd for like someone content and having questions about one of my favorite games

    • @jongaoliva9714
      @jongaoliva9714 2 года назад

      @@krimson5736 It's just the way you word it

    • @krimson5736
      @krimson5736 2 года назад

      @@jongaoliva9714 so how do I word it

  • @TobleroneK
    @TobleroneK Год назад +1

    Please can you do a vid on the best order to spend monkey knowledge 🙏

  • @Brandangaming-j8i
    @Brandangaming-j8i 8 месяцев назад

    Engineer is a very good tower for speed running because of the ultra boost,overclock,bloon trap,xxl trap,sentry expert and sentry champion

    • @Brandangaming-j8i
      @Brandangaming-j8i 8 месяцев назад

      Same as the superstorm but it’s to expensive

  • @TheChosen_BlueToad
    @TheChosen_BlueToad Год назад

    @Hbomb what determines the way my monkeys gain experience?