If you enjoy learning from my videos, then you might also enjoy learning by interacting with me in my virtual academy: www.alexanderarguelles.com/academy/ You can join me this week to improve your abilities to read French, German, or Spanish literature; learn to read Medieval languages; practice spoken Latin at various levels; participate in Great Books seminars; learn about linguistics and comparative religion in lecture series; or get support for guided self-study of languages.
Happy to say I was the one who recommended you that Speaking Irish book/DVD on the old language forum, so many years ago! From what I recall, it was the next best thing to an actual immersion stay in a Gaeltacht.
upon rewatching this after a couple months I just noticed a detail --- you have Merlin on your ex-libris plate, that´s a nice touch. a nice remnant from a past age, fitting really well in this collection
I myself am learning both Ancient AND Modern Greek, the former with a focus on Homer and the New Testament, with Modern Greek being my priority. I am using a wide variety of resources for both, emphasizing an intensive listening and reading methodology FOR both as well as some grammar/translation. I've had to place my Latin and, for the most part, my Biblical Hebrew on hold for this reason. I need to develop discipline in one language, or at least two forms of it, before moving on to two or three. Thus is my path as an aspiring polyglot/polymath!
I just finished reading the chapter on Old Irish in the Routledge overview of Celtic languages and man, one of the most fascinating old languages definitely.
It is even more so when you contemplate the possibility of reading it in the Ogham script, or at very least in the beautiful "Gaelic" font characteristic of so many books into the 20th century.
There you are, though I'm only and will ever (probably) learn a second language- I love your channel. The shadowing and transcription (?) together was the only thing that I saw move my learning forward....
Learning to speak, read and write and understand languages is fun and addicting as hell. I think we can all agree. So is studying etymology and historical linguistics and using comparative philology!
Fantastic, onto the next bookshelf. Thank you for the presentation. I can hardly wait until we hit bookshelf nr.3 with the Finnish language books at the bottom. Finnish is pure magic for me. It would be truly wonderful to be able to speak it and read their books. Tuntematon sotilas and Kalevala are one of my favourite books ever.
I am VERY fascinated and intrigued by the Germanic family, but my priority is definitely Hellenic and Latin/Romance, and possibly Semitic, starting with Hebrew.
Thank you so much! I love these types of videos. I have a naive question and a more serious question I can't resist asking: You can seriously read a novel in Dutch without having seriously studied it? That's pretty wild. Also, you said something about a solid historical linguistics coursebook. Would you happen to know of any?
Thanks for your question. When I first encountered languages like Dutch and Swedish, I did do short and very intensive studies of them, but what seemed like relatively minor engagement was based upon a very broad and solid foundation. As for a good historical linguistics textbook, there are two on the top shelf of the previous video, and I believe I held them up then. Please have a look and then ask again if it is not clear - I would check now but I am not at home.
Oh, how I would love a collection like this! As someone who recently bought a new house, I've been tossing up whether to buy a television, or save the space and fill it with bookshelves. Professor, if I recall correctly, you've never been a fan of the "idiot box" yourself. Has your opinion changed in this regard? Myself, I'm leaning more in the direction of less screens, more reading time...
I find it fascinating when you talk about language foundations, I remeber that I found it quite intriguing, when mr M. Erard quoted you in his book, talking about the "etymological source rivers"(p 111). That is why I do plan on doing latin (starting this year) and then greek and old english some time down the road.
@@techtutorvideos At this stage of my existence, I am not sure that I would voluntarily choose to live 500 years, but if that were my fate, I would indubitably spend them learning more languages and literatures!
Thank you again, Professor! This shelf does indeed contain many rare books that I never asked about, but am glad others in the community did. For example, the Frisian book “Bûter, Brea en Griene Tsiis” seems very interesting from a philological perspective, and I imagine it would allow language lovers who have internalized Germanic philology “into their blood,” as it were, to understand a lot of the language from that. One question I had for you, since you have achieved a very high level in both Germanic and Romance historical linguistics, is: what do you think about the relative difficulty of establishing a historical linguistic foundation in each branch? On the one hand, I find that most modern Romance languages, with exceptions like Romanian, lie on a remarkably continuous dialect continuum, but on the other hand the classical Latin-to-early-Romance changes, while well-researched, do seem quite abrupt because we lack attestation of proto-Romance. I am still establishing foundations in Old Norse and Old English, and while there is a gulf between Old and Middle English, I was wondering how large these gaps of attestation are compared to the Latin-Romance one.
Hello Prateek! Great question and one that we might best discuss more fully during the Old Norse or Gothic sessions. For now, you have hit the nail on the head: the Germanic language family does in general have more distinct stages that are attested.
Αλέξανδρε, χάρηκα πολύ όταν είδα την ποικιλία στο ράφι ελληνικών, ομολογουμένως πρέπει να έχεις περισσότερο υλικό περί των διάφορων σταδίων της γλώσσας από ότι ο μέσος Έλληνας :) Το υπουργείο παιδείας της Ελλάδας έχει ανεβάσει όλα τα βιβλία που χρησιμοποιούνται στη δημόσια πρώτο-/δευτεροβάθμια εκπαίδευση αν θα σε ενδιέφερε να δεις πώς μας διδάσκεται εντός της χώρας. Alexander, I was very happy to see the variety on the Greek shelf, admittedly you must have more material about the different stages of the language than the average Greek :) The Greek Ministry of Education has uploaded all the books used in public primary/secondary education if you would be interested in seeing how it is taught to us within the country.
Ευχαριστώ πολύ Αθανάσιο για την εκτίμηση και για τον σύνδεσμο για το πώς διδάσκονται διαχρονικά τα ελληνικά στην Ελλάδα. Thank you very much, Athanasios, for the appreciation and for the link to how Greek is taught diachronically in Greece.
Hey, I find your videos really inspiring, I was wondering if you could give any advice for those who have gone through wheelocks latin or an assimil for any language and a curious about what classics they can go on to read, which is the most exciting thing. Really hard to find answers to the question, usually just find books made up for language learning, y-a fiction or childrens stories. Any suggestions for a good place to start with Latin classics? Do you think poetry is good for this stage? Thanks very much!
If you would like to go straight into Latin classics after intensively working with Wheelock, your best next step would be to go to his lesser-known 2nd volume, called Latin Literature: A Book of Readings, which contains ample notes and vocabulary. Alternatively you could get a separate edition of a classic edited with explanatory notes and vocabulary. Way back when I first learned Latin via Wheelock in college, we then read Cicero In Catilinam I & II. Whatever you do, it will be "intensive" reading. The reason why some suggest children's stories, etc., is to develop through "extensive" reading instead. Best of success in your studies!
Professor, there is a diabolical villain of some sort who has created a device that will cause the world to explode. That is, however, unless you can name right then and there what language has produced your favorite body of literature. What would it be!?!?!?!?!?
@@ProfASAr That would surprise me, but Danish has very different dialects with slight differences in grammar that are very much dying out - fx. I had a very hard time understanding my grandfather: When there was such a difference in the Danish dialects back in 1905, at that time it would maybe make sense to say "Arh! since Danish is already not fully mutually intelligible with all its dialects, in the same way as Danish and Swedish, categorizing Norwegian as another dialect makes sense". Here is a sketch of someone pronouncing Danish in the dialect of southern Jutland (how the dialect was 70 years ago) and with the vocabulary of this dialect, compared to contemporary Copenhagen Danish. ruclips.net/video/Jd-4U5y3TOk/видео.html
Diolch yn fawr a phob clod i chi am gymryd diddordeb yn ein hiaith ni! Dw i'n dysgu Gwyddeleg ar hyn o bryd felly mae'r argymhellion yn werthfawr iawn i fi.
If you enjoy learning from my videos, then you might also enjoy learning by interacting with me in my virtual academy: www.alexanderarguelles.com/academy/ You can join me this week to improve your abilities to read French, German, or Spanish literature; learn to read Medieval languages; practice spoken Latin at various levels; participate in Great Books seminars; learn about linguistics and comparative religion in lecture series; or get support for guided self-study of languages.
Happy to say I was the one who recommended you that Speaking Irish book/DVD on the old language forum, so many years ago! From what I recall, it was the next best thing to an actual immersion stay in a Gaeltacht.
Hello Chris under a new name! Many thanks, then, for that recommendation!
upon rewatching this after a couple months I just noticed a detail --- you have Merlin on your ex-libris plate, that´s a nice touch. a nice remnant from a past age, fitting really well in this collection
Good eye!
I myself am learning both Ancient AND Modern Greek, the former with a focus on Homer and the New Testament, with Modern Greek being my priority. I am using a wide variety of resources for both, emphasizing an intensive listening and reading methodology FOR both as well as some grammar/translation.
I've had to place my Latin and, for the most part, my Biblical Hebrew on hold for this reason. I need to develop discipline in one language, or at least two forms of it, before moving on to two or three. Thus is my path as an aspiring polyglot/polymath!
I can't wait to embark on my own Hellenic studies. There are a lifetime of riches to be enjoyed for sure.
Hello. I'm also studying Modern Greek by myself. Contact me if you want or need some materials. I'm happy to share them. 👍
Thank you for sharing, and here is wishing you the best of success in your studies.
KALOss!!
@@josealmeida76 What's the best books for Modern Greek in your opinion? Thanks for any suggestions. Is Greek hard to learn, would you say?
I just finished reading the chapter on Old Irish in the Routledge overview of Celtic languages and man, one of the most fascinating old languages definitely.
It is even more so when you contemplate the possibility of reading it in the Ogham script, or at very least in the beautiful "Gaelic" font characteristic of so many books into the 20th century.
My ancestors were involved in making the Book of Leinster many hundreds of years ago.
@@slimytoad1447 Please channel thanks to them on my behalf!
I'm a Welsh speaker-the old tongue still survives.
@@burntgod7165 Fe godwn ni eto!
There you are, though I'm only and will ever (probably) learn a second language- I love your channel. The shadowing and transcription (?) together was the only thing that I saw move my learning forward....
Hello and thank you for the testimonial to the efficacy of shadowing and scriptorium.
Learning to speak, read and write and understand languages is fun and addicting as hell. I think we can all agree. So is studying etymology and historical linguistics and using comparative philology!
Indeed!
Excellent presentation and materiel, thank you professor!
And thank you for the appreciation!
What type of language do you think is a good second language for a cat to learn? I was thinking a tone based one. Take it easy.
Czech, normal and fricated trills)
grep, awk and sed go nicely along with cat!
I bet your cat can say the Chinese word for cat.
@@belstar1128 HAHA! Good one. Yeah, it's pronounced like mow, isn't it?
@@sirdarklust Yea also try it in Thai
Very cool! Thanks professor. I studied Greek with holt Parker. Great teacher!
Memories of past teachers are indeed sweet...
Fantastic, onto the next bookshelf. Thank you for the presentation. I can hardly wait until we hit bookshelf nr.3 with the Finnish language books at the bottom. Finnish is pure magic for me. It would be truly wonderful to be able to speak it and read their books. Tuntematon sotilas and Kalevala are one of my favourite books ever.
You have a good eye - they are indeed in the next shelf, so coming up soon!
9:42 "Oh my god! We're filming this and they're all mixed up!" I can relate to this kind of distress. : )
Thanks for the understanding!
I am VERY fascinated and intrigued by the Germanic family, but my priority is definitely Hellenic and Latin/Romance, and possibly Semitic, starting with Hebrew.
Life is, alas, too short for us to do them all...
Have you ever studied any of the ancient languages of the Near East, such as Sumerian, Akkadian, Egyptian, etc?
Now THOSE are some ancient languages that I would really love to learn in a communicative manner, as living languages!
@@iberius9937 Yes, a bit, and I have and will show books for them on the very last shelf.
Wow this is lovely really!
Cheers Prof Arguelles from lake Titicaca Bolivia
You are welcome! And I remember being on a floating reed "island" on Lake Titicaca...
Thank you so much! I love these types of videos. I have a naive question and a more serious question I can't resist asking:
You can seriously read a novel in Dutch without having seriously studied it? That's pretty wild.
Also, you said something about a solid historical linguistics coursebook. Would you happen to know of any?
Thanks for your question. When I first encountered languages like Dutch and Swedish, I did do short and very intensive studies of them, but what seemed like relatively minor engagement was based upon a very broad and solid foundation. As for a good historical linguistics textbook, there are two on the top shelf of the previous video, and I believe I held them up then. Please have a look and then ask again if it is not clear - I would check now but I am not at home.
Oh, how I would love a collection like this! As someone who recently bought a new house, I've been tossing up whether to buy a television, or save the space and fill it with bookshelves. Professor, if I recall correctly, you've never been a fan of the "idiot box" yourself. Has your opinion changed in this regard? Myself, I'm leaning more in the direction of less screens, more reading time...
I have never had a TV of my own and I think less and less of screens in general all the time.
I find it fascinating when you talk about language foundations, I remeber that I found it quite intriguing, when mr M. Erard quoted you in his book, talking about the "etymological source rivers"(p 111). That is why I do plan on doing latin (starting this year) and then greek and old english some time down the road.
You have years of enlightening study ahead of you, then. And don't forget about Sanskrit, Arabic, and Classical Chinese...
@@techtutorvideos At this stage of my existence, I am not sure that I would voluntarily choose to live 500 years, but if that were my fate, I would indubitably spend them learning more languages and literatures!
Thank you again, Professor! This shelf does indeed contain many rare books that I never asked about, but am glad others in the community did. For example, the Frisian book “Bûter, Brea en Griene Tsiis” seems very interesting from a philological perspective, and I imagine it would allow language lovers who have internalized Germanic philology “into their blood,” as it were, to understand a lot of the language from that.
One question I had for you, since you have achieved a very high level in both Germanic and Romance historical linguistics, is: what do you think about the relative difficulty of establishing a historical linguistic foundation in each branch? On the one hand, I find that most modern Romance languages, with exceptions like Romanian, lie on a remarkably continuous dialect continuum, but on the other hand the classical Latin-to-early-Romance changes, while well-researched, do seem quite abrupt because we lack attestation of proto-Romance. I am still establishing foundations in Old Norse and Old English, and while there is a gulf between Old and Middle English, I was wondering how large these gaps of attestation are compared to the Latin-Romance one.
Hello Prateek! Great question and one that we might best discuss more fully during the Old Norse or Gothic sessions. For now, you have hit the nail on the head: the Germanic language family does in general have more distinct stages that are attested.
Αλέξανδρε, χάρηκα πολύ όταν είδα την ποικιλία στο ράφι ελληνικών, ομολογουμένως πρέπει να έχεις περισσότερο υλικό περί των διάφορων σταδίων της γλώσσας από ότι ο μέσος Έλληνας :) Το υπουργείο παιδείας της Ελλάδας έχει ανεβάσει όλα τα βιβλία που χρησιμοποιούνται στη δημόσια πρώτο-/δευτεροβάθμια εκπαίδευση αν θα σε ενδιέφερε να δεις πώς μας διδάσκεται εντός της χώρας.
Alexander, I was very happy to see the variety on the Greek shelf, admittedly you must have more material about the different stages of the language than the average Greek :) The Greek Ministry of Education has uploaded all the books used in public primary/secondary education if you would be interested in seeing how it is taught to us within the country.
Ευχαριστώ πολύ Αθανάσιο για την εκτίμηση και για τον σύνδεσμο για το πώς διδάσκονται διαχρονικά τα ελληνικά στην Ελλάδα.
Thank you very much, Athanasios, for the appreciation and for the link to how Greek is taught diachronically in Greece.
Dr.arguellas do you own any asian language books or courses ? They are my favourite field of study apart from modern irish.
Coming up in two shelves.
Hey, I find your videos really inspiring, I was wondering if you could give any advice for those who have gone through wheelocks latin or an assimil for any language and a curious about what classics they can go on to read, which is the most exciting thing. Really hard to find answers to the question, usually just find books made up for language learning, y-a fiction or childrens stories. Any suggestions for a good place to start with Latin classics? Do you think poetry is good for this stage? Thanks very much!
If you would like to go straight into Latin classics after intensively working with Wheelock, your best next step would be to go to his lesser-known 2nd volume, called Latin Literature: A Book of Readings, which contains ample notes and vocabulary. Alternatively you could get a separate edition of a classic edited with explanatory notes and vocabulary. Way back when I first learned Latin via Wheelock in college, we then read Cicero In Catilinam I & II. Whatever you do, it will be "intensive" reading. The reason why some suggest children's stories, etc., is to develop through "extensive" reading instead. Best of success in your studies!
Professor, there is a diabolical villain of some sort who has created a device that will cause the world to explode. That is, however, unless you can name right then and there what language has produced your favorite body of literature.
What would it be!?!?!?!?!?
Sorry world, I just let you explode because I couldn't whittle down to one language...
What's your reader for Byzantine Greek called?
Drosilla and Charikles A Byzantine Novel A Bilingual Edition
All this whole life I been asking myself where the heck did I put my Islandic Dictionary.
Are you Moe Berg?
I speak 7 languages ..I thought i am a polyglot ..I am trying to reach fluency in 14 languages
Have you tried to learn the Kurdish language?!
No, I have not.
Norwegian is easy to read hard to hear - as a Danish person.
Same language till 1905, no?
@@ProfASAr That would surprise me, but Danish has very different dialects with slight differences in grammar that are very much dying out - fx. I had a very hard time understanding my grandfather: When there was such a difference in the Danish dialects back in 1905, at that time it would maybe make sense to say "Arh! since Danish is already not fully mutually intelligible with all its dialects, in the same way as Danish and Swedish, categorizing Norwegian as another dialect makes sense". Here is a sketch of someone pronouncing Danish in the dialect of southern Jutland (how the dialect was 70 years ago) and with the vocabulary of this dialect, compared to contemporary Copenhagen Danish. ruclips.net/video/Jd-4U5y3TOk/видео.html
There was almost nothing said about celtic and greek 😅
They are on the bottom shelves and towards the end of the video.
Diolch yn fawr a phob clod i chi am gymryd diddordeb yn ein hiaith ni! Dw i'n dysgu Gwyddeleg ar hyn o bryd felly mae'r argymhellion yn werthfawr iawn i fi.
Diolch i ti hefyd!